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So this is the first phone I've seen where it has SYSTEM memory, SD INTERNAL, and SD EXTERNAL. It's really confusing for me.
When I install an app, is it installing to the 16GB built in memory, or my SD card? I haven't modified anything. And if I do a backup using MyBackupPro, is it using the on board, or the SD card?
It seems like everything favors the internal 16GB, so I guess the 32GB I slid into the device should just be used for things like movies and photos, etc?
I guess this confusion is hampering CWM too since it's not used to handling both these "SD CARDS"
Thanks!
bella92108 said:
So this is the first phone I've seen where it has SYSTEM memory, SD INTERNAL, and SD EXTERNAL. It's really confusing for me.
When I install an app, is it installing to the 16GB built in memory, or my SD card? I haven't modified anything. And if I do a backup using MyBackupPro, is it using the on board, or the SD card?
It seems like everything favors the internal 16GB, so I guess the 32GB I slid into the device should just be used for things like movies and photos, etc?
I guess this confusion is hampering CWM too since it's not used to handling both these "SD CARDS"
Thanks!
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This also brings up another question. Once ROMs do come out as a result of CWM being modified, normally someone does a format\wipe data\clear cache. This would normally clear anything on the "internal memory"... but since there's some confusion as to if the phone sees the "internal SD" as internal memory or not, do you think this process will wipe that as well?
No confusion. I think you may be confusing yourself in a vicious circle
Everything by default is added to the "internal" SD. There are apps (app2SD) and other ways(GB) to install apps to "external" SD, but not all apps can be.
Backups are saved on "internal" SD. (MBP, i dunno, I use TiB) This folder can be copied to "external" SD BEFORE a wipe and flash, then copied back to "internal" SD, backup program installed and restore apps+data preformed(copying the backup folder to pc suggested also in case All goes Wrong) .
"System" is on "internal" SD but is on a different partition, as well as ROM and Internal DB to their own.
CWM has no issue with SD (internal/external SD'd are not new) but as phones and hardware are different for different models it must be modified for the device.... par for the course. As far as how to CWM ROM, always do as OP of ROM states, until you are at least familiar with the process.
Is this your first android device? or first Samsung? I recommend that if you want to understand better how these devices operate to read the Galaxy S family of forums ( Galaxy S, Captivate, Fascinate, etc) as there is tons of info that will be similar to the Infuse.
Hope I ain't steered you wrong and it helps
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No confusion. I think you may be confusing yourself in a vicious circle
Everything by default is added to the "internal" SD. There are apps (app2SD) and other ways(GB) to install apps to "external" SD, but not all apps can be.
Backups are saved on "internal" SD. (MBP, i dunno, I use TiB) This folder can be copied to "external" SD BEFORE a wipe and flash, then copied back to "internal" SD, backup program installed and restore apps+data preformed(copying the backup folder to pc suggested also in case All goes Wrong) .
"System" is on "internal" SD but is on a different partition, as well as ROM and Internal DB to their own.
CWM has no issue with SD (internal/external SD'd are not new) but as phones and hardware are different for different models it must be modified for the device.... par for the course. As far as how to CWM ROM, always do as OP of ROM states, until you are at least familiar with the process.
Is this your first android device? or first Samsung? I recommend that if you want to understand better how these devices operate to read the Galaxy S family of forums ( Galaxy S, Captivate, Fascinate, etc) as there is tons of info that will be similar to the Infuse.
Hope I ain't steered you wrong and it helps
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I have to say your post made a ton of sense and brought clarity to the issue. I'm new to the way Sammy phones work as my past Android Experience has been LG, and HTC (x2)... Thanks!
Misguided? Yes, I'm always chasing my tail hoping I'll catch it... one day I'll get it! hehe.
I'll look through the Samsung forums. Thanks for the tip
bella92108 said:
I have to say your post made a ton of sense and brought clarity to the issue. I'm new to the way Sammy phones work as my past Android Experience has been LG, and HTC (x2)... Thanks!
Misguided? Yes, I'm always chasing my tail hoping I'll catch it... one day I'll get it! hehe.
I'll look through the Samsung forums. Thanks for the tip
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Yep. The 16gb internal sd is partitioned into a 13 gb and some change (/sdcard) and 2gb (/data). Then the external sd is mounted as /external_sd.
/sdcard and /external_sd are supposed to be used for media (try taking a 2 minute video at 720p res lol...easily 40-50mb) and android devices usually have a 2gb data partition where your apps install (supposed to install by default).
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h8rift said:
Yep. The 16gb internal sd is partitioned into a 13 gb and some change (/sdcard) and 2gb (/data). Then the external sd is mounted as /external_sd.
/sdcard and /external_sd are supposed to be used for media (try taking a 2 minute video at 720p res lol...easily 40-50mb) and android devices usually have a 2gb data partition where your apps install (supposed to install by default).
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Cool, thanks for the great info
is there way to make every thing store directly on the phone?
hey everyone. so if i partition the internal sd card what exactly am i doing? from what i understand, the g2x has 8gb onboard, 1.5 of that is for apps, and 5 goes to user data. the rest i assume is for android?
so if i create a 2gb partition on the internal sd, what am i changing and what does it do to the rest of the space? do i need to create the other partitions in windows later and format them?
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Ok, let me try to explain this one...
In three words, Don't Do It!!!
Your internal sd card is pretty much just that, it's a storage card built onto the phone itself. Now it is already partitioned, and allot!
Not only does this one physical card hold your "internal sd card" contents but it also holds your ROM, cache, all your apps, and even your recovery!
Even though it looks like these are separate drives they are all one physical card, your internal sd card.
Now if you try to add to this mix of partitions on this internal card you run the VERY HIGH risk of messing up the lines and sizes of these partitions. Many things in Android assume that some of these are a certain size or at a certain place, and if you mess with it all hell brakes lose!
Now people sometimes partition the external sd card because they want 2 different file types, like half fat32 (like a normal sd card) and half ext4/3 for apps it use in Linux.
Hope this helps!!!
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ok, well then i guess my question is more along the lines of why do we have that option in CWM Recovery and if i create a 2gb partition what happens? does it change the default 1.5gb partition so you have more room for apps?
dodgefan67 said:
ok, well then i guess my question is more along the lines of why do we have that option in CWM Recovery and if i create a 2gb partition what happens? does it change the default 1.5gb partition so you have more room for apps?
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I'm honestly not sure, I've only ever messed with these partitions manually when unbricking my phone. So if you do it, you have a fairly good chance of bricking the phone, but i don't know how Android will react.
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thanks, i was just curious, since CWM gives us the option, but ive never done it and until i can find a good reason to i probably won't even mess with it
but it just seems kind of bad having 5gb on the internal card going to waste, i have backups to my external sd, all my data is there too, so i probably won't even touch that 5gb...
Just be glad it's not the other way around
Ill take too much space over not enough any day!
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well true, but still would like to know exactly what happens if you choose to run that in CWM Recovery
seek and ye shall find
found a guide for CWM and from what i see that option puts a partition on your external sd card so it can be used to install apps on IF the rom supports that. it says it does wipe everything else off the card though so you need to make a backup. you can also put a swap partition on it as well
looks like it does not touch the internal sd card phone memory which is what i thought it did
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide/
This is a very simple and quick guide to show you how to format your external SD Card to FAT32. It took me a total of about 4 minutes from start to finish to format my 64 GB SD Card to FAT32. The main benefit of this is that your SD Card will now be recognized in CWM. I could not get Windows to format my SD Card by itself, which I was I use the program mentioned below.
Step 1: Download and Install EaseUS Partition Master Home Edition
http://download.cnet.com/EaseUS-Partition-Master-Home-Edition/3000-2248_4-10863346.html
Step 2: Insert your SD Card into your computer with SD Card reader and open up the partition program
Step 3: On the main screen you should see your SD Card. Right Click and select format partition. Put in Partition Label (Optional), Select FAT32, and select a cluster size. The smaller the cluster size, the less wasting there is of disk space. I chose 4kb. Then Click "Ok"
Step 4: The Format will go into Pending Operations. Now click "Apply"
Step 5: Profit! Your card should now be FAT32.
Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with Chengdu Yiwo Tech Development or their programs. I am also not responsible for anything that may happen as a result of this guide.
Also you can just use this simple tool: fat32format
I have refrained from doing this to my 64 gig card because IIRC doesn't FAT32 prevent you from saving any file over 4 gigs??
jmorton10 said:
I have refrained from doing this to my 64 gig card because IIRC doesn't FAT32 prevent you from saving any file over 4 gigs??
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you're fine with exFAT as long as you don't want to flash a CM/AOSP based rom. Otherwise, you're just going to end up with a corrupt sdcard.
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I have refrained from doing this to my 64 gig card because IIRC doesn't FAT32 prevent you from saving any file over 4 gigs??
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That is correct however you might want to read this article: Team Epic: Why not exFAT?
Also CWM and TWRP can't read your SD Card properly until you format it to Fat32.
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Also CWM and TWRP can't read your SD Card properly until you format it to Fat32.
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I realize that, but I have movie RIPs that are over 4 gigs, so I just let CWM write to the internal storage & then back it up to my PC.
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I realize that, but I have movie RIPs that are over 4 gigs, so I just let CWM write to the internal storage & then back it up to my PC.
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As of this moment, unfortunately, CWM doesn't support internal storage. There is one alpha build out there version 6.0.1.0 that I haven't tried yet, but so far every other version up to 5.8.4.9 either doesn't work properly or doesn't have an option for internal memory. In that case you may want to switch to TWRP and just use the internal storage there if you want to keep exFAT on your external SD Card.
open1your1eyes0 said:
As of this moment, unfortunately, CWM doesn't support internal storage. There is one alpha build out there version 6.0.1.0 that I haven't tried yet, but so far every other version up to 5.8.4.9 either doesn't work properly or doesn't have an option for internal memory. In that case you may want to switch to TWRP and just use the internal storage there if you want to keep exFAT on your external SD Card.
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huh? Every version I've installed was able to access the "internal sdcard". Backup/Restore works fine.
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huh? Every version I've installed was able to access the "internal sdcard". Backup/Restore works fine.
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What version are you on now? Try choosing to flash a zip file, anytime I have done that it errored out and went back, wouldn't let me read the partition. The only exception is version 5.8.4.9 non-touch which uses the external SD card as it's only memory option and even then you still need to reformat it as FAT32 to get it working. So far, no version of official CWM has supported internal SD card at all, the default was always external but only started working with 5.8.4.9.
EDIT: Just checked CWM 6.0.1.0 is the first version that not only shows options for both the internal and the external memory, but also works with both as well. But upon further checking it's not official CWM either, just CWM-based.
open1your1eyes0 said:
As of this moment, unfortunately, CWM doesn't support internal storage..
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The version I'm using (5.8.4.9) works just fine with the internal storage, I use it all the time & have done 3-4 restores from it also with no problem,
It also installs zips just fine, I do it all the time.
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What version are you on now? Try choosing to flash a zip file, anytime I have done that it errored out and went back, wouldn't let me read the partition. The only exception is version 5.8.4.9 non-touch which uses the external SD card as it's only memory option and even then you still need to reformat it as FAT32 to get it working. So far, no version of official CWM has supported internal SD card at all, the default was always external but only started working with 5.8.4.9.
EDIT: Just checked CWM 6.0.1.0 is the first version that not only shows options for both the internal and the external memory, but also works with both as well. But upon further checking it's not official CWM either, just CWM-based.
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I'm using the kexec cwm right now listed as 6.0.0.8. Can't remember the other version number but it was the one included in the original root thread. Also didn't have an issue with the touch based kexec cwm that was linked with the first cm9 rom. Only errors related to flashing a zip file I've seen were corrupt downloads or flashing a kexec rom on a noncompatible cwm. Haven't tried the official one through rom manager but I tend to avoid that app anyways.
Just to make sure I wasn't imagining things, I just restored a CWM BU made two days ago from my internal storage (I figured worst case scenario I have to start over with all my apps)
The restore worked perfectly & it is definitely coming from the internal storage as CWM does not see my 64 gig card at all.
There is no way I am going to format a 64 gig card to a file system that limits me to under 4 gigs in file size, half the reason I bought that card was so I didn't have to worry about large file size.
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Just to make sure I wasn't imagining things, I just restored a CWM BU made two days ago from my internal storage (I figured worst case scenario I have to start over with all my apps)
The restore worked perfectly & it is definitely coming from the internal storage as CWM does not see my 64 gig card at all.
There is no way I am going to format a 64 gig card to a file system that limits me to under 4 gigs in file size, half the reason I bought that card was so I didn't have to worry about large file size.
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I find it very interesting that CWM is giving you an option for internal SD card. Please tell me which version you are using and the exact words you see. Perhaps a photo? I just flashed 5.8.4.9 non-touch and I see no such option for internal SD card. The only memory option there goes directly to my external SD card without even asking.
open1your1eyes0 said:
I find it very interesting that CWM is giving you an option for internal SD card. Please tell me which version you are using and the exact words you see. Perhaps a photo? I just flashed 5.8.4.9 non-touch and I see no such option for internal SD card. The only memory option there goes directly to my external SD card without even asking.
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I am using (5.8.4.9) non-touch version.
I could care less if its touch or non-touch or what it looks like as long as it works.
Mine has been backing up to the internal memory /mnt/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup by default & never gives me the option to do it anywhere else.
When I first installed it, I was pissed that it didn't detect my 64 gig card not realizing at the time it was because of the file system.
I tried to find an option to BU to the card, but there was no way to choose it. At that point, I figured who cares really as long as it works.
I flashed the root66 ROM & immediately made a BU. I then restored it to make sure it worked before I went any further.
It worked fine, so from then on every few days I copied the BU's to my PC & didn't worry about it.
jmorton10 said:
I am using (5.8.4.9) non-touch version.
I could care less if its touch or non-touch or what it looks like as long as it works.
Mine has been backing up to the internal memory /mnt/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup by default & never gives me the option to do it anywhere else.
When I first installed it, I was pissed that it didn't detect my 64 gig card not realizing at the time it was because of the file system.
I tried to find an option to BU to the card, but there was no way to choose it. At that point, I figured who cares really as long as it works.
I flashed the root66 ROM & immediately made a BU. I then restored it to make sure it worked before I went any further.
It worked fine, so from then on every few days I copied the BU's to my PC & didn't worry about it.
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Wow, I feel like a complete idiot. Apparently (and I have no idea how this happened) but my SD card got cloned onto my internal storage. So actually what's happening is that CWM 5.8.4.9 is by default to internal storage and in fact doesn't give you an option for external SD card at all. CWM-based 6.0.1.0 that I linked finally shows and works with both and so does TWRP but only when you format to FAT32. So ignore that I said CWM doesn't see internal storage, that was in fact it's default this whole time.
Format Int or Ext SD?
open1your1eyes0 said:
As of this moment, unfortunately, CWM doesn't support internal storage. There is one alpha build out there version 6.0.1.0 that I haven't tried yet, but so far every other version up to 5.8.4.9 either doesn't work properly or doesn't have an option for internal memory. In that case you may want to switch to TWRP and just use the internal storage there if you want to keep exFAT on your external SD Card.
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I fell upon this thread for 2 reasons
1. Insufficient memory downloading apps from GPStore ( 9/16GB Remaining on SD + 9/16GB Remaining on Enternal + 600MB Remaining on System)
-- I dont understand why that is happening.?!?!?
2. Is it neccesary to Format the Enternal memory (16GB)?
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open1your1eyes0 said:
Wow, I feel like a complete idiot. Apparently (and I have no idea how this happened) but my SD card got cloned onto my internal storage. So actually what's happening is that CWM 5.8.4.9 is by default to internal storage and in fact doesn't give you an option for external SD card at all. CWM-based 6.0.1.0 that I linked finally shows and works with both and so does TWRP but only when you format to FAT32. So ignore that I said CWM doesn't see internal storage, that was in fact it's default this whole time.
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@open1your1eyes0,
so what you are saying is:
- its NORMAL to see CWM in both Internal and External SD? Therefore, it does not matter which CWM I use to flash a ROM? CWM 6.x.x.x vs CWM Touch 5.x.x.x vs TWRP?
Like right now I am copying all my internal storage to my PC & external storage card(merging)
kuntri said:
I fell upon this thread for 2 reasons
1. Insufficient memory downloading apps from GPStore ( 9/16GB Remaining on SD + 9/16GB Remaining on Enternal + 600MB Remaining on System)
-- I dont understand why that is happening.?!?!?
2. Is it neccesary to Format the Enternal memory (16GB)?
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@open1your1eyes0,
so what you are saying is:
- its NORMAL to see CWM in both Internal and External SD? Therefore, it does not matter which CWM I use to flash a ROM? CWM 6.x.x.x vs CWM Touch 5.x.x.x vs TWRP?
Like right now I am copying all my internal storage to my PC & external storage card(merging)
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Only CWM 6.x.x.x will see both where as CWM 5.x.x.x will see only internal memory. But even if you use CWM 6.x.x.x, to work with external SD card it has to only be formatted in FAT32.
open1your1eyes0 said:
Only CWM 6.x.x.x will see both where as CWM 5.x.x.x will see only internal memory. But even if you use CWM 6.x.x.x, to work with external SD card it has to only be formatted in FAT32.
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do we have to format the internal memory? only the external - fat32, correct!
kuntri said:
do we have to format the internal memory? only the external - fat32, correct!
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Can't format it even if you wanted (device limitation) so yes, correct.
kuntri said:
I fell upon this thread for 2 reasons
1. Insufficient memory downloading apps from GPStore ( 9/16GB Remaining on SD + 9/16GB Remaining on Enternal + 600MB Remaining on System)
-- I dont understand why that is happening.?!?!?
2. Is it neccesary to Format the Enternal memory (16GB)?
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@open1your1eyes0,
so what you are saying is:
- its NORMAL to see CWM in both Internal and External SD? Therefore, it does not matter which CWM I use to flash a ROM? CWM 6.x.x.x vs CWM Touch 5.x.x.x vs TWRP?
Like right now I am copying all my internal storage to my PC & external storage card(merging)
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open1your1eyes0 said:
Only CWM 6.x.x.x will see both where as CWM 5.x.x.x will see only internal memory. But even if you use CWM 6.x.x.x, to work with external SD card it has to only be formatted in FAT32.
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kuntri said:
do we have to format the internal memory? only the external - fat32, correct!
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Can't format it even if you wanted (device limitation) so yes, correct.
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Thanks!
Also I followed thread using GScript to enable/disable MSU so that your PC will only read the External SD and not both Ext/Int Storage.
---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785243
One last question .. have you encountered "insufficient storage" while downloading an app? I manually pushed my apps2sd using TiBu and Links2SD and was still getting the same error. any suggestions?
So I got the Moto G 1gb, 8 gigs of internal storage version.
I love this phone so far and I've pretty much set it up how I'd like it, but the 8gb internal storage has turned into an issue.
I got Appmanager III, moved pretty much everything to my 32 gig external, but I still have only like 600 mb to spare on the internal, with well over half of the external left over.
Is there another app that will allow me to move all the app data left over in the internal over to the external?
If that's not enough, I'd also be interested in knowing if there's any way I can force the system to use the external as the main storage for all the OS functions. I already used adb to set all the default downloads to the external.
Finally, I'd like to know if custom ROMs like cyanogenmod would use up less storage than the stock OS, or at least let me use more of my internal by reducing the amount of bloatware (why can i NOT get rid of google movies or google+??? come ON)
I'm rooted and have installed twrp so both root and custom recovery solutions are welcome. Thanks for your time and help!
If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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System apps, ie those that come with the phone such as google movies, live in the system partition. If they are updated then the update lives in the internal storage. Uninstalling via titanium will of course free up both system and internal storage space.
However just disabling them will be sufficient, this will remove all updates from internal storage and just leave the apk in the system partition. Its the internal storage that you want to be less full as this is where user apps, pictures etc all reside (assuming you haven't yet moved them to an SD card).
Disabling is less drastic than uninstalling and is maybe the preferred option in case you otherwise uninstall something that breaks your phone.
I've tried that, but for whatever reason if I disable, say, google play movie or whatever, my phone eventually ends up redownloading them? It's really odd and honestly pretty annoying.
I'd still like to know if there's any way to keep all the main app data on the external or something though. Are Cyanogenmod ROMs installers smaller? I don't need THAT much more space to feel comfortable, having 1 gigabyte would be ok with me. I just don't like having like 600 MB free at most...
EDIT: If I can just move the app data for a few games and Google Chrome, that should fix it, too. Those seem to be the real space hogs, so if I can move those I should be able to handle everything else
EDIT EDIT: Would an app like Link2SD work for this phone or has no one tested that yet?
Hi Tazzypilar, Yes Link2Sd wil work wery well. All wat you have to do is to install MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional on your PC, then put your micro SD card in the cardreader on your desktop or laptop to make two partitions on your SdMicro card (card must be class 10). Start program MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional and look for your microSD card on the list with disks. Right click on your removable disk (micro sd card) and you can resize your first Fat32 partition and make it smaller for at least 2 GB. After that you will have 2 GB unused space behind this Fat32 partition. Now click with right mouse on this unused space and choose „Create“ new partition and make it ext4 file system partition. You will be prompt „Are you sure that you want to make ext4 partiton because Windows can't see it ?“ and answare „Yes“ . So, one partition will be Fat32 and you can make it as big as you like depending on the size of your MicroSd card and second should be at least 2GB (or greater - also may be smaller, it's up to you) ext4 partition and there you will move your apps from the internal phone memory.
That's all, after that you have to install Link2Sd from playstore and link apps you like to move to your SdCard. Succes ! If you have more questions jut ask !
Greetz !
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Where did my storage go?
Just asked my self a very similar questions
I attachment a screen shot
From the 8gb 3,5 go to Android system
So 4,5gb for internal I thought., but no.
I installed about 2gb of apps and 200mb cache.
Ah I forgot to mention that this is a fresh install after factory reset and still I am missing alot of storage see screen shot
Is this normal? I am on stock not rooted with some apps already moved to SD Any ideas?
Upgrade to android M, use external SD as internal card
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal
Look for posts on link2sd, it needs to be a fast card and then formatted using both std FAT and ext (linux) partitions. Then you can move almost everything.
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Though Im using LG H502F. Correct me if Im wrong but I think thats because the internal storage is emulated. Ive been using Link2SD and it works well. I can link app data and external data to the mounted partition. The only difference I noticed was... When opening the app it takes a couple of second or more compared to the unlinked apps... Anyways. Try to check if your storage is emulated. If it is, then that 3GB available space for a stock rom is as good as it gets. Mine have 8GB rom but the end user is only 3GB something.
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merlin2380 said:
I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal
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In android M you can "transform" your sd card in internal memory (in Settings>Storage>SdCard>Definitions). If you have a fast 32 Gb card, you can format it to internal and it is as you have 32 Gb internal memory, but your sdcard must "live" with your phone (can't be used as sdcard in other device).
I think that is what @sandipkc7 means.
I did that not very usefull
merlin2380 said:
I did that not very usefull
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Tried internal storage option in marshmallow and at first i taught it was rubbish, but i kinda left sdcard alone and install another ROM.
So stuff on my internal storage was nowhere to be found. I installed latest recovery (TWRP) Flashed another rom and this is where things started to get interesting.
When i first converted sdcard to use as internal storage my phone was still eating up the internal memory 8GB on the phone.
Now however android system decided to do away with internal 8GB memory and use sdcard as a main storage. my photos are stored there and all data i noticed that almost everything is installed on sdcard now. so my storage is not vanishing away. I have about 1.7GB used on there.
There are some apps that can be moved manually to sdcard storage (converted to internal) - for example some of the system apps and most of google apps stay in phones memory not on sdcard and they can't be moved manually.
So my advise is covert your card to internal memory and then do factory reset or install another ROM.
Option 2 as mentioned above in posts is to use app called Link2SD - it is worth to opt for paid version which gives you more options of what to copy to 2nd partiton of your sdcard.
i have amazon fire 7 (£50 tablet) setup with option 2 - same storage 8GB. It works well. due to lack of marshmallow for this device i cannot use internal sd as an option. I have 2GB used there and rest sits on sdcard. i have installed few resource (storage) hugging apps - 1.2 GB, 2 GB each (gameloft games) - all moved to sd with link2sd app.
on my moto g 2015 i use android build in solution and it works well. You have to keep in mind that with this solution you can't simply copy files to your computer. Sdcard is encrypted at device level and it can only be access via your phone. However you can use any wifi file transfer app to copy some files over or via phones hotspot (i use droid over wifi or web pc suite to name few).
hope this helped a little
sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............
marsrolled said:
honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............
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Because of this slow down i did a reset to default settings. This did help and now the phone works much better, just make sure you always have 500MB empty on the internal storage, anything less and tbe phone performance goes down imediatly.
All the talking about this no so vreat sdcardinteral storage feature was too much for my 32 GB samsung evo micro sd card, it died less than 6 months of service. This was already the 2nd from the evo series that hung up on me and let me to dataloss thanks to google drive all was backedup
I will now root the phone and get a custom rom, probaply cm offical
Did you ever find out how to recover that lost 2GB? I have the exact same problem and managed to maybe find the 2GB in the /data folder; however it is sys locked and I'm not ready to root a brand new phone yet.
I have 8 apps installed (not counting google/motorola pre-installed) on my Moto G3 and showing 3.72GB used of 4.53GB available internal. It then shows 1.36 GB used by apps, 1.71 MB by cache. Other 2GB is a mystery?Device storage shows only 16GB used of 37GB availabe due to SD card.
I have the infuse which has a16gb ROM with 12gb internal SD and a 2gb data partition and a galaxy s5 with 16gb ROM which has 12gb storage space that is shared between apps and internal SD. I was wondering if there is a way to setup the infuse to work like the s5 does or at least switch the internal 12gb SD card with the 2gb app storage space. I need lots of room for apps and don't ever even use the internal SD card as I have a 32gb external card in the phone so there is like 12 megs total in use on the internal SD while app storage is completely full with hardly any apps installed. Just kind of seems like a waste to me. Thanks in advanced for any help you might be able to give
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I have the infuse which has a16gb ROM with 12gb internal SD and a 2gb data partition and a galaxy s5 with 16gb ROM which has 12gb storage space that is shared between apps and internal SD. I was wondering if there is a way to setup the infuse to work like the s5 does or at least switch the internal 12gb SD card with the 2gb app storage space. I need lots of room for apps and don't ever even use the internal SD card as I have a 32gb external card in the phone so there is like 12 megs total in use on the internal SD while app storage is completely full with hardly any apps installed. Just kind of seems like a waste to me. Thanks in advanced for any help you might be able to give
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Not that easy. You would have to re-route (comment out) the line for /data/data in the fstab file on the boot.img ramdisk. If using stock ROM, then you have to make sure all that is signed the way Samsung wants it.
There are some later KK 4.4 ROM's that ignore the datadata partition (my signature has a link that will provide options) but if you have the AT&T model (v.s. Rogers) and still on FY 2.2 or GB 2.3, there does not seem to be an upgrade path anymore (patched bootloader to flash ICS+ is lost).
A simple solution is to get a MicroSD card, split up that MicroSD with a ext2 second partition, and then use Link2SD. Mind you, the apps on the external SD would be slower, but at least you can get more apps that what you could before.
Hope this helps.
I have cyanfox 4.4 kitkat installed on it already. I know there is ways to use external SD as ext4 partition, is there any way to do something like that with internal SD instead.
diablo5189 said:
I have cyanfox 4.4 kitkat installed on it already. I know there is ways to use external SD as ext4 partition, is there any way to do something like that with internal SD instead.
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You may be able to figure out a solution with FolderMount (or one of the other options in the following SII thread):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548834
Alternatively...
I am curious though, how are your wakelocks? Is your Infuse able to fall asleep? This can be determined by going into Settings > Battery > History Details, and checking the blue bar under "Awake". If it spans the width underneath that title (and the screen has been off for a portion of the uptime), then you have a GMS bug, and is common with most 2014 KK ROMs.
Not to sway you particularly - I compiled a build in 2015 that not only abandons /datadata, but also fixes the GMS bug:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61012641&postcount=1060
May be worth it, even if only just looking at the post.