Is there a mod or way to get other apps playing video content to 'fill the screen' ... i.e. crop to fit.
Not make app full screen from multitasking or allow apps full screen settings ... I mean like YouTube has a floating crop button to fill the display with the content? ?
windowsdan4216 said:
Is there a mod or way to get other apps playing video content to 'fill the screen' ... i.e. crop to fit.
Not make app full screen from multitasking or allow apps full screen settings ... I mean like YouTube has a floating crop button to fill the display with the content? ?
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Works fine with kodi
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On both Amazon prime video and Netflix there's an option to fill the screen. Not exactly the same and sometimes you have to press it a few times but it does work.
Also in display settings you can choose which apps to make full screen. I toggled them all.
Ok, I know it's not the most popular opinion on how to view videos, but is there a way to have YouTube stretch videos instead of cropping to fit them? I know viewing stretch will make things look fat, but the crop feature cuts off some of the video, and I'd rather watch stretch than sacrifice content. Is there any way to do this?
No. No such option, this question has been ask before.
I know it is user preferences but I still need to highlight It is awful and wrong way watching video in stretch. Aspect ratio is very important, probably YouTube purposely don't want to add-in such option to helping some user watching video in a correct way.
Andrewtst said:
No. No such option, this question has been ask before.
I know it is user preferences but I still need to highlight It is awful and wrong way watching video in stretch. Aspect ratio is very important, probably YouTube purposely don't want to add-in such option to helping some user watching video in a correct way.
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Ah well that sucks. At least having the option of stretching or cropping would be nice.
Taichou said:
Ah well that sucks. At least having the option of stretching or cropping would be nice.
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I wouldn't want to watch that way myself, but I agree it should be an available option either in the YouTube app or in the system settings. Maybe in the future.
Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.
shri080 said:
Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.
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I too noticed this while putting wallpapers on mobile.
From 1st day I am using Google's gallery app i.e. Photos , while pictures looked brilliant in the app but whenever I set a picture as wallpaper , it looks dull.
Second time I noticed it when I saw Avengers on MX player, colors looked bright and punchy where as it's trailer on YouTube looked very dull in comparison.
Exactly!! Hope someone can find a solution for this. Such a shame they are restricting what this phone can deliver.
Abby 244 said:
I too noticed this while putting wallpapers on mobile.
From 1st day I am using Google's gallery app i.e. Photos , while pictures looked brilliant in the app but whenever I set a picture as wallpaper , it looks dull.
Second time I noticed it when I saw Avengers on MX player, colors looked bright and punchy where as it's trailer on YouTube looked very dull in comparison.
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HOLLY CRAP!!! I looked at your pictures but really couldn't see it. I then did same test you did and I'm Blown Away. This is horrible. See the attached examples. We need to chase support on this one for sure. For reference..I used the YouTube app vs new pipe app. U also checked the stock photo gallery versus a replacement photo gallery and you can also see the difference there ....see the last pic
roxboxxx said:
HOLLY CRAP!!! I looked at your pictures but really couldn't see it. I then did same test you did and I'm Blown Away. This is horrible. See the attached examples. We need to chase support on this one for sure. For reference..I used the YouTube app vs new pipe app. U also checked the stock photo gallery versus a replacement photo gallery and you can also see the difference there ....see the last pic
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Here is the gallery pic
shri080 said:
Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.
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Can you compare both mobiles playing Netflix and Amazon prime?
Abby 244 said:
Can you compare both mobiles playing Netflix and Amazon prime?
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I did and the colors look much better on the Note 8 and I am sure that the colours on the NEX can also look equally better provided someone finds out a way to turn of the AI thing.
I wish I can unsee it
If you want to really hate the AI, access YouTube in your mobile browser and then switch to request the desktop version. Then set it to a high resolution and look at the stunning quality.
I now seriously hate this AI!
Also just validated ..this is happening with the official and vanced versions of the YouTube app.
Tested:
- I installed older official YouTube apps - same issue
- I installed a few third party YouTube apps - all had beautiful color saturation
Jesus!!
What a mess.
Good that i'm always uninstalling all stock app and replaced them with third party for example for gallery i'm using Google Photo or Quick Pic with all my smartphone.
But must be some kind of spesific services related to AI that should remove via ADB that would be the best solution.
Anyone contact ViVo about this problem ?
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Anyone contact ViVo about this problem ?
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I will be tomorrow with the photos and this forum presented as exhibits. I have been talking to vivo support on an off for the past week, so I suspect it will at least get logged.
I see the same problem. I used ES Explorer and default album with multitask to compare side by side. Really strange ...
I always use the QuickPic Since I got the device , However noticed the Bad quality with YouTube when I attempted to test a Video Playback . Mx player has better performance.
Lets Push Vivo Team to Correct this , There is a separate thread on XDA requesting them to release the source code.
Once they release the Source , I guess these problems will be Easily resolved.
Regards,
H
Also, you guys can use a third party app to set the wallpapers for both desktop and lock screen. It looks so much better when you do that. And if we should reach to Vivo on this. It's shame that their team has not checked on this, which is such a major thing.
Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.
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Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.
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That's interesting. But where do you find those settings? On the youtube app or under phone settings?
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Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.
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Just download and install newpipe apk and then see the difference.
Abby 244 said:
Just download and install newpipe apk and then see the difference.
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I just do it and ... Wouah ...
I've been finding that some 3rd party apps lack 90Hz support. Most disappointing of which is Samsung Browser. I would think that screen refresh rate is independent of apps but obviously the phone is detecting something with these apps and saying "I should render this at 60Hz". Has anyone found a workaround? I'd love to use Samsung Browser but it's hard to go back to 60Hz. /firstworldproblems
SilentByte said:
I've been finding that some 3rd party apps lack 90Hz support. Most disappointing of which is Samsung Browser. I would think that screen refresh rate is independent of apps but obviously the phone is detecting something with these apps and saying "I should render this at 60Hz". Has anyone found a workaround? I'd love to use Samsung Browser but it's hard to go back to 60Hz. /firstworldproblems
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apps do not have to do with the refresh rate. Perhaps they have low frames per second which could be improved by disabling ads or some other tweaks
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apps do not have to do with the refresh rate. Perhaps they have low frames per second which could be improved by disabling ads or some other tweaks
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Wrong. Apps do need to add support to show 90 frames.
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Wrong. Apps do need to add support to show 90 frames.
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I wouldn't say so. Might apply to some games. But not to standard apps at all.
The only apps that need support are games
C3C076 said:
I wouldn't say so. Might apply to some games. But not to standard apps at all.
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Sorry If that was misleading. App developers need to optimize the app so It calculates every frame faster so it has time to show 90 fps on 90hz displays.
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justasalekna said:
Wrong. Apps do need to add support to show 90 frames.
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You said I was wrong and then supported my point. I also said frames could be improved but not refresh rate, which is a different thing. Apps display as a chain of images per secods. which is FPS. Refresh rate (Hertz) is a mechanical function of display that dictates how many times it refreshes a what ever is on the screen, image video, just single picture etc.. regardlessly if app has good or bad Frames.
You can look at a single picture at 60 or 90Hz but not at 60 or 90 fps because its just one image or one frame. Reading is a big tool
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Sorry If that was misleading. App developers need to optimize the app so It calculates every frame faster so it has time to show 90 fps on 90hz displays.
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This is wrong. A poorly performing app and screen refresh rate are completely independent of each other. With this phone, the entire screen is switching to 60Hz with some third party apps. This makes the app less smooth as well as the OS in general (e.g. pulling down the status bar to view notifications). I really hope OnePlus fixes this soon, as it defeats the purpose of having a 90Hz display if it keeps switching to 60Hz.
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Sorry If that was misleading. App developers need to optimize the app so It calculates every frame faster so it has time to show 90 fps on 90hz displays.
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There is nothing that developers of standard apps that use standard framework (not NDK) can do as there is no public API for that at all.
There is abstraction layer and apps do not need to deal with things related to physical capabilities of the screen, such as display refresh rate.
OnePlus already uses some auto switching logic for refresh rate, e.g. during video playback. The thing is their implementation is currently not perfect as they seem to be switching
to 60Hz even for videos not playing in fullscreen mode. So e.g. when you scroll FB and video comes into view, screen switches to 60Hz which is not OK (the same applies to web packages with embedded video).
I bought a new phone (iqoo 7) after 3 years. I am not sure if this is an android issue/feature or a phone specific issue. I can't help but notice that while playing videos on twitch, prime, youtube etc. the display doesn't use the entire screen space. A significant part of both the edges is blank and it really bothers me and is not a very good experience while watching a video. If i pinch out and zoom the video to fit to the screen then it because it is zoomed, some parts/edges of the video can't be seen. I am not up to date with mobiles however i used android 8.0 in my previous phone and was always able to use the full screen while watching videos.
Please refer to the attached screenshots.
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I bought a new phone (iqoo 7) after 3 years. I am not sure if this is an android issue/feature or a phone specific issue. I can't help but notice that while playing videos on twitch, prime, youtube etc. the display doesn't use the entire screen space. A significant part of both the edges is blank and it really bothers me and is not a very good experience while watching a video. If i pinch out and zoom the video to fit to the screen then it because it is zoomed, some parts/edges of the video can't be seen. I am not up to date with mobiles however i used android 8.0 in my previous phone and was always able to use the full screen while watching videos.
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Try to pinch in with your fingers.
svetius said:
Try to pinch in with your fingers.
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As i mentioned, when i try to pinch in i lose some part of the video. As you can see in the attached screenshots. In this particular case after pinching the scoreboard disappears. Is there any way to be able to use entire screen with the help of an app/setting ?
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As i mentioned, when i try to pinch in i lose some part of the video. As you can see in the attached screenshots. In this particular case after pinching the scoreboard disappears. Is there any way to be able to use entire screen with the help of an app/setting ?
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This happens with 2 different features
The one you're talking about is called fill screen and is specific per app and now a days specific to OEM which app they add in their OS release
The one you have right now is called stretch. It crops the area to fill the screen.
These both things occur differently as per phone as well since some phone screen ratios are 4:3, some have 16:9 and when any video is recorded it varies between these resolutions.
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This happens with 2 different features
The one you're talking about is called fill screen and is specific per app and now a days specific to OEM which app they add in their OS release
The one you have right now is called stretch. It crops the area to fill the screen.
These both things occur differently as per phone as well since some phone screen ratios are 4:3, some have 16:9 and when any video is recorded it varies between these resolutions.
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4:3 is unknown of now. Did it ever exist? Idk. 16:9 is out there, but not with newer devices. Most common now for screen ratios is 18:9 and my Pixel 5 is 19.5:9.
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As i mentioned, when i try to pinch in i lose some part of the video. As you can see in the attached screenshots. In this particular case after pinching the scoreboard disappears. Is there any way to be able to use entire screen with the help of an app/setting ?
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This happens with 2 different features
The one you're talking about is called fill screen and is specific per app and now a days specific to OEM which app they add in their OS release
The one you have right now is called stretch. It crops the area to fill the screen.
These both things occur differently as per phone as well since some phone screen ratios are 4:3, some have 16:9 and when any video is recorded it varies between these resolutions.
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4:3 is unknown of now. Did it ever exist? Idk. 16:9 is out there, but not with newer devices. Most common now for screen ratios is 18:9 and my Pixel 5 is 19.5:9.
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Yeah this is kind of a bummer since now a days companies are using different ratios cos of the notch or camera bump.
But this video resolution strictly depends upon the app that you are using to stretch the video.
I prefer mx player in this matter. Try it once if you'd like, it has both options.