I've been finding that some 3rd party apps lack 90Hz support. Most disappointing of which is Samsung Browser. I would think that screen refresh rate is independent of apps but obviously the phone is detecting something with these apps and saying "I should render this at 60Hz". Has anyone found a workaround? I'd love to use Samsung Browser but it's hard to go back to 60Hz. /firstworldproblems
SilentByte said:
I've been finding that some 3rd party apps lack 90Hz support. Most disappointing of which is Samsung Browser. I would think that screen refresh rate is independent of apps but obviously the phone is detecting something with these apps and saying "I should render this at 60Hz". Has anyone found a workaround? I'd love to use Samsung Browser but it's hard to go back to 60Hz. /firstworldproblems
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apps do not have to do with the refresh rate. Perhaps they have low frames per second which could be improved by disabling ads or some other tweaks
GUGUITOMTG4 said:
apps do not have to do with the refresh rate. Perhaps they have low frames per second which could be improved by disabling ads or some other tweaks
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Wrong. Apps do need to add support to show 90 frames.
justasalekna said:
Wrong. Apps do need to add support to show 90 frames.
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I wouldn't say so. Might apply to some games. But not to standard apps at all.
The only apps that need support are games
C3C076 said:
I wouldn't say so. Might apply to some games. But not to standard apps at all.
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Sorry If that was misleading. App developers need to optimize the app so It calculates every frame faster so it has time to show 90 fps on 90hz displays.
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justasalekna said:
Wrong. Apps do need to add support to show 90 frames.
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You said I was wrong and then supported my point. I also said frames could be improved but not refresh rate, which is a different thing. Apps display as a chain of images per secods. which is FPS. Refresh rate (Hertz) is a mechanical function of display that dictates how many times it refreshes a what ever is on the screen, image video, just single picture etc.. regardlessly if app has good or bad Frames.
You can look at a single picture at 60 or 90Hz but not at 60 or 90 fps because its just one image or one frame. Reading is a big tool
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Sorry If that was misleading. App developers need to optimize the app so It calculates every frame faster so it has time to show 90 fps on 90hz displays.
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This is wrong. A poorly performing app and screen refresh rate are completely independent of each other. With this phone, the entire screen is switching to 60Hz with some third party apps. This makes the app less smooth as well as the OS in general (e.g. pulling down the status bar to view notifications). I really hope OnePlus fixes this soon, as it defeats the purpose of having a 90Hz display if it keeps switching to 60Hz.
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Sorry If that was misleading. App developers need to optimize the app so It calculates every frame faster so it has time to show 90 fps on 90hz displays.
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There is nothing that developers of standard apps that use standard framework (not NDK) can do as there is no public API for that at all.
There is abstraction layer and apps do not need to deal with things related to physical capabilities of the screen, such as display refresh rate.
OnePlus already uses some auto switching logic for refresh rate, e.g. during video playback. The thing is their implementation is currently not perfect as they seem to be switching
to 60Hz even for videos not playing in fullscreen mode. So e.g. when you scroll FB and video comes into view, screen switches to 60Hz which is not OK (the same applies to web packages with embedded video).
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How do you watch things like BBC iPlayer in full screen?in YouTube there's a button to crop video and it's fills the screen but nothing for BBC,itv ect even with full screen apps button toggled for each app.
Full screen apps puts the app itself into fullscreen mode but it that won't effect how the app handles video playback. They're likely set to fill the video to screen, not crop the top and bottom to fit an unusual aspect ratio. Remember that most phones before this were standard 16:9 so this was never an issue previously. There's no way to do what you're asking yet AFAIK. It will either have to be enabled in the app itself (such as YouTube) or introduced into a future S8 update. Always the possibility of a root option down the road as well if Xposed ever comes to the S8.
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How do you watch things like BBC iPlayer in full screen?in YouTube there's a button to crop video and it's fills the screen but nothing for BBC,itv ect even with full screen apps button toggled for each app.
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xeathpk said:
Full screen apps puts the app itself into fullscreen mode but it that won't effect how the app handles video playback. They're likely set to fill the video to screen, not crop the top and bottom to fit an unusual aspect ratio. Remember that most phones before this were standard 16:9 so this was never an issue previously. There's no way to do what you're asking yet AFAIK. It will either have to be enabled in the app itself (such as YouTube) or introduced into a future S8 update. Always the possibility of a root option down the road as well if Xposed ever comes to the S8.
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It's a joke there's a huge screen but no way to watch third part y tv apps full screen,I normally do root ect but I bought phone with option to change for free after 12 months so root will mess that up.
simonhcai said:
It's a joke there's a huge screen but no way to watch third part y tv apps full screen,I normally do root ect but I bought phone with option to change for free after 12 months so root will mess that up.
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DW mate, give it a couple more months and I'm sure that you'll forget that this was even an issue. App developers will presumably pick up the slack over that time, some apps are already starting to adapt to the longer screens of the S8 and LG G6.
Its poor third party apps without any video aspect ratio or video fit/crop/stretch options that are the issue. Most 3rd part developers assumed that their apps would only ever be used on standard 16:9 phones or similar.
And you can't really blame the phone for being 18.5:9 aspect ratio, its all about personal preference and some people like myself prefer the longer screen, even knowing that some content may never fit the screen how you'd like it. Although, for those times that you CAN utilize the full real estate of this beautiful screen makes it more than worth it in my eyes.
OK, now I feel like a newb but this is my first Pixel device and the Google camera seems simple enough but I can't find how to set my video framerate to 1080p 60fps. I have it on 1080p and the only options I can find are on the top bar with color temp and flash and all it gives me is Auto and 30fps. Auto seems to go anywhere between 120 and 30 fps, I can't figure out the logic behind how it chooses. I really just want to lock it to 60fps for 1080p. Can someone help me out?
Turn off video image stabilization?
[email protected], [email protected]/60/120fps, [email protected], [email protected] (gyro-EIS)
jamgam said:
Turn off video image stabilization?
[email protected], [email protected]/60/120fps, [email protected], [email protected] (gyro-EIS)
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I turned off IS and am still not seeing it, I tried 720p too and nothing but auto and 30fps. Open Camera and Filmic both give me 60fps.
I'm thinking anything over 30 fps is "slow motion" only. Still looking around myself b/c I'd love the 240 fps for videoing my golf swing
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I'm thinking anything over 30 fps is "slow motion" only. Still looking around myself b/c I'd love the 240 fps for videoing my golf swing
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The Pixel 2 camera has 240 in slow motion.
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Woah. This is a near deal breaker here. I can't seem to find 60fps on my $850 phone.
Update I found the place where you set the framerate, but unlike the Pixel 2 (which shows 30 and 60), the Pixel 3 only shows Auto or 30. W. T. F. This "auto" icon is located in the lower left when in video mode.
For what it's worth, I've gotten near the proper framerate with 3rd party apps. Both Open Camera (free) and Filmic Pro (paid) hit 59.667 on 60fps mode. The proper framerate is 59.94 (60,000/1001). Filmic Pro can do an exact even 60fps too if you force the framerate. I may try to gen some answers from Google directly if I don't figure this out over the weekend.
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For what it's worth, I've gotten near the proper framerate with 3rd party apps. Both Open Camera (free) and Filmic Pro (paid) hit 59.667 on 60fps mode. The proper framerate is 59.94 (60,000/1001). Filmic Pro can do an exact even 60fps too if you force the framerate. I may try to gen some answers from Google directly if I don't figure this out over the weekend.
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I tried open Camera, and it looks like 30fps when I force 60fps. It just says about 30.095, Min 22.222 and max 43.103 in Media Info. This is fail.
Can't find it myself! help
Was wondering the same thing. Selecting info on a recorded video doesn't show framerate either.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
Automatic FPS Switching
First, a new option to automatically switch FPS during video recording has been added. According to a Product Manager that we spoke to at the event, people have trouble deciding what the best framerate is before recording a video. This new feature lets the Google Camera app decide what framerate to record at – either 30 or 60 fps – depending on what’s on screen. The feature can even switch framerates in the middle of a recording. It doesn’t work with 4K videos, though.
Google Pixel 3 Auto Framerate
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bartolo5 said:
Can't find it myself! help
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djy said:
Was wondering the same thing. Selecting info on a recorded video doesn't show framerate either.
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Hold the phone horizontal and select video mode. On the lower left corner you will see a little icon "A". Touch this icon and you will see "Auto" or "30fps".
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https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
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Great, so 30fps is working as intended on an $850 phone. Thanks for finding this gem. Glad I don't have to wait 6 months to a year for this quote from Google to find out it essentially will never be fixed. Hopefully they don't regress on the Pixel 2, because this isn't a improvement in my book. How about Auto, 24, 30, 50, 60 option on an $850 phone?
This is not acceptable.
I want to be able to lock it to 60fps, not to leave Google device the frame rate for me.
Guys, we need to send feedbacks via the Camera app and try to involve the media (@madebygoogle on Twitter).
That's the only thing we can do to hope they'll release an update enabling 60fps selection.
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This is not acceptable.
I want to be able to lock it to 60fps, not to leave Google device the frame rate for me.
Guys, we need to send feedbacks via the Camera app and try to involve the media (@madebygoogle on Twitter).
That's the only thing we can do to hope they'll release an update enabling 60fps selection.
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I just confirmed on their support chat that there is no option for 60fps, like we didn't already figure that out. They suggested going to 'settings -> about phone -> send feedback about this device' and sending feedback that way. I am already posting what I can on social media as well. Wish we could get this in the front page of xda.
I just used Open Cam set to 60fps and the Google Cam on auto to record the same scene and I must admit that they look identical. I cannot see the difference with my naked eye.
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I just used Open Cam set to 60fps and the Google Cam on auto to record the same scene and I must admit that they look identical. I cannot see the difference with my naked eye.
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This is exactly my observation. Which means, this could be a limit of the new hardware and/or part of the Visual Core stuff which might be a harder thing to fix. We shall see how Google responds.
I think it will be "working as intended" or the hardware is limited to auto, because (insert some sort of white wash excuse). I would prefer darker video of 60 fps over brighter 30fps variable frame rate hogwash.
So today at my son's baseball game I used open Cam locked in at 60fps and goggle at 1080 auto and the open Cam video looks choppy and looks like it skipped frames. The Google Cam video looks very smooth like 60fps does. So I'm gonna say that Google Cam does a dang good job of chosing the best fps.
Video recording is an afterthought on the Pixel series. Stabilization is top tier, but everything else (image quality, audio quality, etc) takes a back seat. I'm actually not upset since I rarely ever record videos, and when I do, they are short clips at home that have ZERO production value. I'd be willing to be 95% of consumers are the same way.
Heck, have you noticed how every amateur video that goes viral on the news is shot in portrait mode and not landscape?! #PetPeve
my phone sometime 60hz but my settings 120hz
Some applications will not flow smoothly.
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I have the same feeling : Mario Kart looks like smoother in 60 hz rather then 120hz. It's just a feeling, I have no proof about it.
its not just the apps
they use dynamic refresh rate and it means the refresh rate changes in order to save battery
I notice lags even when I do basic things like opening the recent apps menu or opening some apps, this **** is so annoying....
I tried a couple games altos oddysey , bullet force and dead trigger but none of them show the option for 120hz. I have show refresh rate enabled in developer options and it shows the games at 60hz. Why is this phone like this unless the devs for the game have to add this phone to there list. if thats the case then 120hz is only for social media which is good but i want it for games as well that should support it
check it and you re right . found a paid app AutoHz that seems to have profiles for all apps. if anyone has test it, plz share.
i also came to the conclusion that the "dynamic" refresh rate, its not so dynamic. even if you have the ambient display (always on) the rr its 120. this means that you drain your battery fast all day.
found it. the game is called vainglory and the counter shows 120hz
found it. the game is called vainglory and the counter shows 120hz
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check it and you re right . found a paid app AutoHz that seems to have profiles for all apps. if anyone has test it, plz share.
i also came to the conclusion that the "dynamic" refresh rate, its not so dynamic. even if you have the ambient display (always on) the rr its 120. this means that you drain your battery fast all day.
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I use it. Can confirm it works.
Blamz said:
I use it. Can confirm it works.
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you are referring to autohz yes ? so if you make a profile for a game at 120hz it works? even if the game previously was playing at 60 ?
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you are referring to autohz yes ? so if you make a profile for a game at 120hz it works? even if the game previously was playing at 60 ?
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yes i use it to play real racing 3 which previously only ran at 60hz, now runs at 120hz.
I bought a new phone (iqoo 7) after 3 years. I am not sure if this is an android issue/feature or a phone specific issue. I can't help but notice that while playing videos on twitch, prime, youtube etc. the display doesn't use the entire screen space. A significant part of both the edges is blank and it really bothers me and is not a very good experience while watching a video. If i pinch out and zoom the video to fit to the screen then it because it is zoomed, some parts/edges of the video can't be seen. I am not up to date with mobiles however i used android 8.0 in my previous phone and was always able to use the full screen while watching videos.
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I bought a new phone (iqoo 7) after 3 years. I am not sure if this is an android issue/feature or a phone specific issue. I can't help but notice that while playing videos on twitch, prime, youtube etc. the display doesn't use the entire screen space. A significant part of both the edges is blank and it really bothers me and is not a very good experience while watching a video. If i pinch out and zoom the video to fit to the screen then it because it is zoomed, some parts/edges of the video can't be seen. I am not up to date with mobiles however i used android 8.0 in my previous phone and was always able to use the full screen while watching videos.
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Try to pinch in with your fingers.
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Try to pinch in with your fingers.
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As i mentioned, when i try to pinch in i lose some part of the video. As you can see in the attached screenshots. In this particular case after pinching the scoreboard disappears. Is there any way to be able to use entire screen with the help of an app/setting ?
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As i mentioned, when i try to pinch in i lose some part of the video. As you can see in the attached screenshots. In this particular case after pinching the scoreboard disappears. Is there any way to be able to use entire screen with the help of an app/setting ?
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This happens with 2 different features
The one you're talking about is called fill screen and is specific per app and now a days specific to OEM which app they add in their OS release
The one you have right now is called stretch. It crops the area to fill the screen.
These both things occur differently as per phone as well since some phone screen ratios are 4:3, some have 16:9 and when any video is recorded it varies between these resolutions.
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This happens with 2 different features
The one you're talking about is called fill screen and is specific per app and now a days specific to OEM which app they add in their OS release
The one you have right now is called stretch. It crops the area to fill the screen.
These both things occur differently as per phone as well since some phone screen ratios are 4:3, some have 16:9 and when any video is recorded it varies between these resolutions.
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4:3 is unknown of now. Did it ever exist? Idk. 16:9 is out there, but not with newer devices. Most common now for screen ratios is 18:9 and my Pixel 5 is 19.5:9.
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As i mentioned, when i try to pinch in i lose some part of the video. As you can see in the attached screenshots. In this particular case after pinching the scoreboard disappears. Is there any way to be able to use entire screen with the help of an app/setting ?
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This happens with 2 different features
The one you're talking about is called fill screen and is specific per app and now a days specific to OEM which app they add in their OS release
The one you have right now is called stretch. It crops the area to fill the screen.
These both things occur differently as per phone as well since some phone screen ratios are 4:3, some have 16:9 and when any video is recorded it varies between these resolutions.
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4:3 is unknown of now. Did it ever exist? Idk. 16:9 is out there, but not with newer devices. Most common now for screen ratios is 18:9 and my Pixel 5 is 19.5:9.
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Yeah this is kind of a bummer since now a days companies are using different ratios cos of the notch or camera bump.
But this video resolution strictly depends upon the app that you are using to stretch the video.
I prefer mx player in this matter. Try it once if you'd like, it has both options.