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Upgrade Advice - NO iPhone!

Hello guys, as of 24th of this month and until 24th feb im eligible for my upgrade on my contract. Im currently using a HD2, and im looking for advice on an upgrade. i have the highest contract so there is no phone as of yet i cant upgrade to. if i cant get it on my network ill just cancel and grab it somewhere else. a few points to point.
NO IPHONE i hate the thing its terrible.
NO ANDROID. not because i hate it but because im a windows fan boy. although i dual boot linux and run media centre via linux.
I loved the look and the feel of the hd7, BUT its dated and i want something that is keeping up with the times.
Basically windows phone 7, and Big screen, Gaming must be smooth like the hd7.large hdd. no idea if any phones do Hd movie playback well. i can run 720p via coreplayer on this hd2 so im guessing newer models can. i know its a large list, and pretty much a tight one ive seen the titan, but not sure if it beats the hd7. and tbh i want something to beat iphone.
whats due for release on t mobile uk up until 24th feb? what you brainiacs here think.

I'd go with the Titan
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If you want WP then I'd recommend the Nokia Lumia. I don't currently have a Nokia phone but I had them for years and really rate them. If I didn't want Android, that's what I'd have.

That nokia with apple old Nano style is very eye appealing.
I been using windows 7 on my HD2 and I'm really falling for it. A few reason so far is the smoothness and ease of access. The zune software works very well with my computer. Android google music is cool but limitation to music and excludes video, picture, and podcast. iTunes I just hate with passion!

If you are going WP& I would recommend either the Titan or the Lumia they are two different devices just see which fits you the best

Focus S.
Samsung appearance/construction may not be that great but Super AMOLED+ is easily the best in terms of WP7 displays (and given how all WP7 phones have pretty similar specs, display is probably the most important thing which makes it stand out).

Super Amoled (+ / HD) is my preferred screen but the Lumia has an AMOLED screen and seems like a much better device. The Focus S was my third choice

The lumia devices have a clear black display that completely enhances AMOLED to a whole new level. I own a lumia 800 and it's mindblowing. If Nokia releases the rumored 900 before lumia 900 by then, take it and run.

get a blackberry then, it's solid, it always works, and it also have Apps
good on battery life, and great resale value

I love my original Focus, mainly because of the size and the front ascetics.

AllGamer said:
get a blackberry then, it's solid, it always works, and it also have Apps
good on battery life, and great resale value
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10 minute boot time, application catalogue that you can scroll through in a matter of half an hour, no good games or decent apps, and halfway out the door as a company. Yeah, totally legitimate option.

z33dev33l said:
10 minute boot time, application catalogue that you can scroll through in a matter of half an hour, no good games or decent apps, and halfway out the door as a company. Yeah, totally legitimate option.
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And more of a market share than WP7!!

lowandbehold said:
And more of a market share than WP7!!
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That's on a constant decline!

z33dev33l said:
The lumia devices have a clear black display that completely enhances AMOLED to a whole new level. I own a lumia 800 and it's mindblowing. If Nokia releases the rumored 900 before lumia 900 by then, take it and run.
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Interesting. How is it in sunlight? (I know that isn't very important for most people, just wondering)

It takes a second longer to adjust than my focus s but once adjusted it's equally clear.

Extremely Disappointed

I received my brand new Nokia Lumia 1020 in Yellow this morning. I quickly proceeded to tear open the packaging and snap some shots to find out what all the fuss was about this camera.
Extreme disappointment ensued, shots were grainy, barely in focus and blurry in some instances. The camera struggled to focus on simple objects and the super zoom just made everything very very grainy. I had heard the camera app was a little slow but this was horrid. To me this was unacceptable, my old, smashed HTC Mozart takes better pictures, heck, even my partners N7000 takes better shots. I made sure I was using the ProCam app and fiddled with the settings to no avail. At this point I was getting frustrated, I spent I a nice chunck of cash for this phone and it seemed like Slannmage's epic monologue may actually have a minute morsel of truth in it.
It was around this point that I flipped the phone over to look at the lens to check for dirt when I realized I hadn't removed the scratch protector from the camera... So this is really just a reminder to all new owners of the Lumia 1020, take the plastic protectors off your phone before using it and/or potentially returning it.
Once removed, the photo's were amazing! This camera is really a world apart and on Auto it is easily as good as my Canon 450D on Auto. Props to Nokia for an amazing device!

Haha, I hope that people will read whole post before argueing

damn, my lumia1020 did not have the plastic film

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Haha, I hope that people will read whole post before argueing
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i was about to press Back when I saw this after reading the first sentence

have the same problem with you, but i didnot remove the protection because scare of scratch. Now i have a case, Happy with L1020 now.

I made the same silly mistake. Charged my new bought lumia and tested the camera. Funny thing was, I was not disappointed in spite of the protector still on. HAHAHAHA. Better than my previous phone (that cost more to buy)

Hey dude,
glad you didn't fall out with the Nokia in the end. I wanted to get your opinion on how you're finding it (if you still have it)?
I had a Lumia 850 which was great especially when using as a camera where the Nokia software came to life (and in my opinion the Nokia hardware and software was the missing link in Windows Phones).
So I was pretty sure I wanted a Lumia 1020 but due to some bizzare coincidences and screw up by the phone company I am getting sent both a Nokia Lumia 1020 and a Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
You can see my dilema, which one do I got for?! What's your opinion on the Lumia 1020, is it responsive (apps and hardware) and could you see yourself with that phone in 6 months or a years time?
Cheers,
Fz

So I was pretty sure I wanted a Lumia 1020 but due to some bizzare coincidences and screw up by the phone company I am getting sent both a Nokia Lumia 1020 and a Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
You can see my dilema, which one do I got for?! What's your opinion on the Lumia 1020, is it responsive (apps and hardware) and could you see yourself with that phone in 6 months or a years time?
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I havent had a note 3 and I can not answer you. As I saw, the note 3 is also a very good device. I myself am very happy with the lumia 1020. My minor issues are that almost every app costs something. Yes, you will say "you bought a phone for 600 euros and you do not spend 1 euro for an app?". For example xda developers app is free in iphone, free on android, costs in windows phone. I mean... come on guys.
My verdict is... if you want to experiment, flash roms, take good photos, then its the note. If you want a reliable phone (until now) with a perfect (in my opinion) camera, get the lumia.

I have both sitting in front of me right now.
Been test driving the Galaxy Note 3 and to be honest it doesn't suit me...I don't know, maybe I have become spoilt by the Windows Phone 8 OS, the Android environment is a cluttered mess and it took me a while to declutter the UI and put what I needed on a single screen.
I am also finding the Note 3 chassis looking a bit old now when compared to the Nokia 1020's beautiful modern design and it feels less like a phone and much more like a tablet (albeit with an old body (Matt black chassis would have really set this device off properly).
In use I found it very good (once I worked out where everything was) but I couldn't help feeling it need all that extra grunt from the hardware to make the new Android usable and it did lag sometimes when navigating through various apps and the UI where as in comparison the Lumia 1020 works great with the Dual-Core app and the Nokia software is a great in use because the software is solidly built throughout.
The Camera Pro app on the Lumia 1020 is great, really brings the lense to life once you spend the time to learn the ins and outs of the Camera features and I agree, the results are simply breathtaking (where as the quality on the Note 3 are quite frankly poor but that could be because I haven't set it up right?).
The Lumia is a Camera Phone, not a phone with a camera like the others and thats the point - it works first time everytime for me, no clutter, no fuss, everything is easily accessible and I bet most of the people who own the Note 3 don't use anywhere near 50% of what it offers.
I have 7 days to return one or both so going to give them a proper test drive but my heart is already set on the Lumia (but my head is saying Note 3 for future proofing).

Ha Ha I am pretty sure this has happened to a few people, easily overlooked though! Glad you solved the problem.

happened to me also buh its all good now haha

hahah

I would have kept my 1020 but...
I would have kept my 1020 but the lack of capability to record calls and archive entire time / date stamped SMS text threads meant that it was a non-starter. It makes the phone non-compliant for data retention purposes. It's a shame that some arcane US law found its way to disabling a global operating system.

Just bought this phone. Is the camera still the best?

Just bought my 1st Windows phone to test out. Is this still a good phone? I would love your thoughts.

Just bought this phone as well to see what all the noise is about the camera.
I tested it against my nexus 5 and the zoom was incredible shot out of 20th floor window, but I have not taken it anywhere yet to take real photos.
I would like to hears other thoughts as well.

I think we are the only 2 people that own this phone and visit xda

yeah I think so as well.
Probably since MS locked it down so hard and it can not be rooted, maybe people lost interest.
This is my test phone and that time when we all wish we had a good camera device to take a quick picture(now waiting on that moment.)
Nexus 5 is still my daily driver, but I like this phone a lot.
To answer you original question, from everyone I have talked to this is still one of the best, if not the best camera/phone combination out there.

It's still the best camera phone (maybe except Nokia 808 with bigger sensor, but no stabilization). Lumix CM1 should be much better, but will cost twice more and it still isn't in sale.

Is there any camera app to allow me to set exposure time more than 4s like default application?

hinix said:
Is there any camera app to allow me to set exposure time more than 4s like default application?
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I saw this app on a couple of forums.
it cost 1.99 in US store.
didn ot say alot about exposure though
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/proshot/3d6a3d7e-5aca-4aee-b059-590b9f53cc13

qnc said:
I saw this app on a couple of forums.
it cost 1.99 in US store.
didn ot say alot about exposure though
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/proshot/3d6a3d7e-5aca-4aee-b059-590b9f53cc13
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Thanks, but nope, I checked trial version 5 min ago and maximum time is 4 seconds too.

Do your guys camera kinda rattle when you put the phone down?

Or if you tap the phone earlier against your hand?

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Do your guys camera kinda rattle when you put the phone down?
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I looked that up when I first got the phone. Can't remember where I found the information, but it is just the OIS element.
I'm not a camera guy so I looked up OIS element. It appears that regular cameras have the rattle as well.
OIS = Optical Image Stabilization
New one to me.
Most said that if the rattle stops then you are in trouble.
Long story short Rattle is good.

Guys visit the site for detailed information Windows Phones and anything related to Lumia/ Win Phone
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/

I've bought and tried almost every smartphone with a good camera.
Nokia Lumia 1020 takes the best photos of all till now...
The pureview technology is unique...

As a previous owner of lumia 1020. My thoughts and info.
Currently I am a note 3 user. Lumia 1020 was for me a very good phone. My only issue is that earpiece volume was low (Small ear problem due to my work, but I can say iphone and now note 3 are double lowder) . At first it was perfect. After the 8 update it went lower. Restored to the initial version but no improvement. Kept and updated to 8.1........ still the same. Contacted microsoft but no answer given (dah). If the volume was higher I would never have sold it. I was an iphone user, android, lumia, iphone and now again on android. These are my conclusion on personal experience.
1. Camera is far far superior than other phones. YES. By far. I dont know about the iphone 6.
2. Rattle noise of the camera is a little bit disturbing but as I have read its on the stabilisation of the camera.
3. Windows os is FASTER than any other (Yes I have previously rooted my HTC m7 and used custom roms)
4. Support from microsoft sucks (sorry but they have not answered any of my emails with a solution)
5. To take great photos you have to study and learn the camera 's features.
Do I miss my Lumia? YES
Will I ever buy a Lumia? YES ( thinking of the 930 but I saw many issues with that as well.) In a year or two if they take their jobs seriously they can make unbelievable smartphones.
Hope I have helped someone.

stunning camera. Way above anything else.
I've been using the phone since June 2014. It has a STUNNING camera and I've been a serious DLSR photographer since 2004.
Its not all things to all men but low light and detail from the large 41.3-megapixel BSI CMOS image sensor are v good. Its a FX - full frame camera in a phone without the add-on lenses. FX on a DLSR is £1000 entry level.
I perhaps wish I had more control over the photographic process. I'd love a variable Neutral Density Filter. I'd love a simple HDR app.
I'd like better 3rd party apps. I think this camera\Nokia 1020 will ultimately fail in the market as it is locked down by MS and Nokia. Such a shame....and self defeating. Camera 10/10.
I tried to debrand it when I got it. Failed.
No WP equivalent Cyanogen Mod or simple 8.1 for me then.

it is locked down by MS and Nokia. Such a shame....and self defeating. Camera 10/10.
I tried to debrand it when I got it. Failed.
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My 1020 is on Consumer Cellular which uses the AT&T network.
I did not have to unlock it.
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I came frome the LG G2, which still has one of the best Android cameras, and I'm really impressed. I'd never have thought that a smartphone camera is this good.
And yes, the rattling is the OIS

caldo said:
I've bought and tried almost every smartphone with a good camera.
Nokia Lumia 1020 takes the best photos of all till now...
The pureview technology is unique...
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Especially since no other can do 4x FHD zoom without serious quality drop
Mine glass broke while moving and I bought galaxy s4+ while waiting repairs and I decided to keep it, since the operating system gives so much leeway...
Only problem is that now I have to use burst to get even one good image even in good light

I upgraded to Nexus 6 but always carry the 1020 for pictures can't beat the camera
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Hi there guys. Im not new in the forums but new to this threads. I used to have Motorolas and still love them, awesome devices and still think the best out there, at least in Android side, but my GF took mine for a game and gave me this Lumia 1020. which to be honest i sold her the idea of getting it in the first place.
So far ive been investigating as many people talks too much BS about 41 megapixels not being important bla bla...
My findings so far:
The phone specs are medium to high compared to pocket cameras. The quality is actually amazing, a few small details as with anything but i think its just perfect to avoid buying a camera. I just dont like that the zoom is not that much, to be honest its great when im at an stadium and i take this pictures that are simply amazing compared to what any other smartphone can take, but if i want to zoom then im the one with the crappiest zoom. But i bought this Lensung zoom 12X and im going to check it once it arrives in a couple of weeks or more.
There are some cool apps out there for this camera so the biggest problem is to know which one fits you better, thats why i have about 8 apps installed. Ive been playing with some and they all fit somehow. Im an amateur photo lover beginner in the lowest level but damn this camera makes me look at least as a good enough camera man he he he.
Issues so far: i hate the phone overheats but i know it is normal.
No real quality lenses out there (im going to test the one i mentioned but not sure its gonna be good enough yet)
Possible advantages:
Ive seen people working on creating cases that fit real lenses, professional ones, waiting for the results and possibilities to buy them.
And one last thing, in the party a couple weeks ago every single person started taking pictures... i was the one taking pictures at the end of the party as there was no match for this camera-phone, simply they all surrendered to its quality pictures, iPhone lovers, Android lovers, Samsung lovers, all of them. So yes, this phone is still the best camera phone you will find!

Is the 1020 still worth getting?

My 4s is crapping out slowly, and i found a brand new lumia 1020 for $250 on kijiji, brand new, in yellow! kinda tempted to get it cuz of the nice camera and windows 10 around the corner, as well as denim just released, but it is 2015, and the 1020 wasn't a powerhouse to begin with. what do you guys think? save the $250 and wait, or will the phone still be viable for some time? as you can tell, i'm on a budget. would have gone for the oneplus one, but with the canadian dollar + shipping it will likely be $500+ delivered.
anyway, thanks for the advice.

Just for camera?
The question is "Are you going for this phone just for camera?". If you answer is "yes" then, go ahead. This is the simply the best camera out there. At this budget, superb.
But, if you considering moving from Android to Windows Phone, that is a big adventure. Mainly because of the App store and other features of the WP, which Android user may not like.
I advise you to check the Windows Phone OS first (may be borrow phone from a friend) before actually buying.
Note: I am using this phone just for its camera.

I have been using the Nokia Lumia 1020 for about 6 months. It has been doing very well for me, and I bought it for two reasons. One, I missed Windows OS. I used to use a HTC Wizard, then a Tytn and finally the Kaiser. They were fantastic, and the Kaiser I used straight for a good 5 years. In fact, that phone I still have and it works just fine, however the battery is showing its age and the front bezel has cracked and fallen off in places.
The second reason is that my Samsung Galaxy SII LTE was an absolute piece of garbage. I used it for almost 2 1/ years and it was problematic pretty much from the get-go. I had battery issues (replaced the battery)... then there were the constant freezes, crashes, app drops and more. It was absolutely terrible! I had more issues with Android than any other phone I have used..
I've used a lot of phones, but my Windows OS phones have been the best ones I have ever used! I got hooked with the old Motorola VX220... and moved on from there..
Glad to be back to Windows OS and I don't see myself ever going back.
The 1020 I bought both for the camera (I love it) and for the phone itself. It has proven to be more than reliable, it has proven to be an absolute wonderful phone!
Granted it sucks not having expandable storage space, but hey, that 4s you have isn't either!
I'd say grab one, they are excellent phones and will treat you well...! Just make sure you get a case for it as the phone can feel a bit slippery without one..

HTC One S, my next device

Hi people! I was thinking to change my current phone, and one of the options was HTC ONE S. I will take it from a guy which is selling it and i have about 10 minutes to inspect it. Can you please tell me, besides the aspect (scratches) where should I pay more attention?

Smantanasiceapa said:
Hi people! I was thinking to change my current phone, and one of the options was HTC ONE S. I will take it from a guy which is selling it and i have about 10 minutes to inspect it. Can you please tell me, besides the aspect (scratches) where should I pay more attention?
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If you want it despite the fact it's an 4 years old device and probably you won't have further updates or development for it, check first the production date of the device. Most devices produced before August 2012 were suffering from a hardware issue called "helicoptering" (you can search here about it, there's a dedicated thread). That is a very annoying bug that made the phone behaves like you were pressing the Home button without actually touching it. This was solved after several hardware revisions but the first units were suffering of that.
Also what you need to check is if it's an S4 (Ville) or S3 (Ville C2) device. S4 is preffered as the CPU is newer and there is much more variety of ROMs available for it. The 1.5 GHz CPU is the S4 and the 1.7 GHz CPU is the S3. Even if it has apparently a faster CPU, DO NOT take the S3.
And also check if it was messed with it like custom ROM, recovery, unlocked bootloader, rooted and so on. See if the storage (internal 10 GB) is mounted and available.
Check basic functions... GPS, BT, wifi, camera, if you can make/receive calls and so on.
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Smantanasiceapa said:
Hi people! I was thinking to change my current phone, and one of the options was HTC ONE S. I will take it from a guy which is selling it and i have about 10 minutes to inspect it. Can you please tell me, besides the aspect (scratches) where should I pay more attention?
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I owned One S(S4), Sony Z1 Compact and Galaxy S6. I still owned them all at now. One S is a wonderful phone in that old age and we all have lovely memory here with it but really too old now, you probably need to replace it with a new battery and almost no development except like CM rom.
If you got a bit more budget, I'll strongly suggest you to get a used Z1 Compact instead(probably may need to order a new battery too), they are not expensive now. Z1c just received official 5.1.1 upgrade and should get Android M sometime next year so it still got a long life. The size and weight is very near One S with much better hardware spec(4.3" 720P IPS, S800, 2GB ram, microSD, 2300mAh battery, LTE, 4K video recording patch).
EDIT: Sony just announced Z1/Z1c no 6.0 but it would be easy to port from Z2 since they shared the exactly same camera, so it won't be a big problem.