Coming from Z5, XZ seems like a superior downgrade.
Double tap to wake is so annoying that i want to throw this phone against a wall.
Loud speakers are the worst compared to any smartphone. Seriously guys try this, when I was on a call I've put it on speakers and I was like there is no diff between turning on and off the speakers.
You here same amount of sound with or without turning the speakers on while on a call.
Only thing that is improved on this phone compared to z5 is snappy fingerprint sensor.
I am a Sony fan and maybe its time to rethink.
I've damaged my Z5 by takin it to swimming pool.
Now I even regret buying XZ?
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Coming from Z5, XZ seems like a superior downgrade.
Double tap to wake is so annoying that i want to throw this phone against a wall.
Loud speakers are the worst compared to any smartphone. Seriously guys try this, when I was on a call I've put it on speakers and I was like there is no diff between turning on and off the speakers.
You here same amount of sound with or without turning the speakers on while on a call.
Only thing that is improved on this phone compared to z5 is snappy fingerprint sensor.
I am a Sony fan and maybe its time to rethink.
I've damaged my Z5 by takin it to swimming pool.
Now I even regret buying XZ
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So far I've owned a Z, M4 Aqua, Z3, briefly used a Z5 and I seriously have difficulty seeing how the XZ or XZs for that matter could be a downgrade in any aspect. The only thing I can't get over not having is the magnetic charger plug I had on the Z3, I would trade the fingerprint scanner for that in a heartbeat.
What do you mean there's no difference in using voicalls through earspeaker and loudspeaker? The speakers on this thing are way better in loudness, bass and clarity compared to both Z3 and Z5. Apart from the HTC One M8 I used briefly, XZ is the best I've heard so far. That BoomSound on HTC is insanely good, and when you take the phone apart it becomes clear why, those speakers are huge.
What's wrong with the double-tap?
Do you maybe have a defective unit on your hands???
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So far I've owned a Z, M4 Aqua, Z3, briefly used a Z5 and I seriously have difficulty seeing how the XZ or XZs for that matter could be a downgrade in any aspect. The only thing I can't get over not having is the magnetic charger plug I had on the Z3, I would trade the fingerprint scanner for that in a heartbeat.
What do you mean there's no difference in using voicalls through earspeaker and loudspeaker? The speakers on this thing are way better in loudness, bass and clarity compared to both Z3 and Z5. Apart from the HTC One M8 I used briefly, XZ is the best I've heard so far. That BoomSound on HTC is insanely good, and when you take the phone apart it becomes clear why, those speakers are huge.
What's wrong with the double-tap?
Do you maybe have a defective unit on your hands???
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It takes atleast 4-5 attempts to wake the device by double tap. I've searched and found that it happens often when device goes to sleep on its own.
They said its a software bug, but already running 7.1.1 and i'm still waiting for a fix.
And regarding speaker sound I dont know if you have used z5 but I've used it for 1 and a half year. I do feel like there is awfull low sound from speakers.
Being a pioneer in sound quality this is really bad from sony. Some might say its a trade for waterproof, but S7 edge is doin quite fine.
My XZ is just one month old btw. It has been imported in oct 2016. Been quite a long time on shelf, but hope that has nothin to do with anything.
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It takes atleast 4-5 attempts to wake the device by double tap. I've searched and found that it happens often when device goes to sleep on its own.
They said its a software bug, but already running 7.1.1 and i'm still waiting for a fix.
And regarding speaker sound I dont know if you have used z5 but I've used it for 1 and a half year. I do feel like there is awfull low sound from speakers.
Being a pioneer in sound quality this is really bad from sony. Some might say its a trade for waterproof, but S7 edge is doin quite fine.
My XZ is just one month old btw. It has been imported in oct 2016. Been quite a long time on shelf, but hope that has nothin to do with anything.
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Do you know the double-tap works only on center region of the screen? Once I learned that, it made a lot more sense and I have no issues with that any more. It's like that by design and on purpose, to prevent accidental double-tapping.
Uhm...have you compared the sound from the S7 Edge and the XZ? It's night and day, in favor of the XZ. Dude, there's either something wrong with your unit, or you are talking nonsense.
Actually, there are a couple of videos comparing this on youtube, iPhone 7 included, the XZ beats S7 by a mile in sound.
What do you mean on the shelve? Like in the store display or on the shelve at home in a box? If it was the second one, doesn't matter. If it was a display unit in the store...yes, it matters.
The XZ should be better thatn Z5 in every aspect, no question about it.
Yes, I used Z5 briefly, before it I used the Z3. I was very dissapointed by the overheating and battery life so I went back to Z3 and now XZ. Z5 is a beautiful phone, at first I was very happy to get it after Z3, but in practical terms it became a nightmare for me. Nothing to this day beats the battery life of my Z3. And that magnetic charger was a thing of beauty, unfortunate they ditched it.
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Do you know the double-tap works only on center region of the screen? Once I learned that, it made a lot more sense and I have no issues with that any more. It's like that by design and on purpose, to prevent accidental double-tapping.
Uhm...have you compared the sound from the S7 Edge and the XZ? It's night and day, in favor of the XZ. Dude, there's either something wrong with your unit, or you are talking nonsense.
Actually, there are a couple of videos comparing this on youtube, iPhone 7 included, the XZ beats S7 by a mile in sound.
What do you mean on the shelve? Like in the store display or on the shelve at home in a box? If it was the second one, doesn't matter. If it was a display unit in the store...yes, it matters.
The XZ should be better thatn Z5 in every aspect, no question about it.
Yes, I used Z5
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I had no problem waking Z5, here i am just comparing both. Its not like i had to tap on the middle of the phone on Z5.
By Shelf I mean its in a retail packaging but unsold.
My phone is brand new.
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I had no problem waking Z5, here i am just comparing both. Its not like i had to tap on the middle of the phone on Z5.
By Shelf I mean its in a retail packaging but unsold.
My phone is brand new.
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I get that, it works differently on the XZ than Z3 and Z5, the double-tap doesn't work on the edges of the screen, try it. It's by design, and once you learn that, it's fine, just tap near the center region. It's like on laptop touchpads, the edges don't react to click gestures, only scroll and such, it's to prevent unwanted taps. Why is this a huge issue...
I was actually happy with this because the Z3 would unlock on its own in my pocket, i don't have that issue with the XZ.
So, have you compared the sound on S7 to XZ yet?
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I get that, it works differently on the XZ than Z3 and Z5, the double-tap doesn't work on the edges of the screen, try it. It's by design, and once you learn that, it's fine, just tap near the center region. It's like on laptop touchpads, the edges don't react to click gestures, only scroll and such, it's to prevent unwanted taps. Why is this a huge issue...
I was actually happy with this because the Z3 would unlock on its own in my pocket, i don't have that issue with the XZ.
So, have you compared the sound on S7 to XZ yet?
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Sorry, I've not compared yet. I'm in my home town now (Village).
I'll compare once i go to my work place.
I agree, I'm really regretting going for the XZ after the Z3.
In my case performance and battery life are the main issues, although the speaker volume also annoys me, but it wasnt better on the Z3 so i cant complain.
I usually travel in hot countries, last week i was in Kuwait and it was 38-40 c ambient, so naturally, the XZ with its thin metal back got very hot very quickly and reached 46c doing basic stuff like phone calls and whatsapp. It got so slow I wanted to break it in half; it hangs, its slow, its not so smooth (all compared to the 3 year old Z3) and this all starts at around 38-39c.
Also battery life is very inconsistent; sometimes I get 4 hrs SoT, sometimes like yesterday (normal day without anything special) I get 2 hrs.
One more thing; out of no where something melted inside the charging port and the charger wont go in properly anymore, the phone is always in a case and nothing goes into the port.
If my Z3 hardware didn't give up I would've kept using it, unfortunately I'm stuck with the XZ until the next Pixel comes out. I'm also working on fixing the hardware parts of the Z3 that are damaged and going back to using it again with the XZ as a second phone for camera and media consumption.
agentsandy007 said:
Coming from Z5, XZ seems like a superior downgrade.
Double tap to wake is so annoying that i want to throw this phone against a wall.
Loud speakers are the worst compared to any smartphone. Seriously guys try this, when I was on a call I've put it on speakers and I was like there is no diff between turning on and off the speakers.
You here same amount of sound with or without turning the speakers on while on a call.
Only thing that is improved on this phone compared to z5 is snappy fingerprint sensor.
I am a Sony fan and maybe its time to rethink.
I've damaged my Z5 by takin it to swimming pool.
Now I even regret buying XZ
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Double tap is working fine after. 417 fw.
Loudspeakers aren't the best. But not the worst. Some smartphones do worst than this. On call i agree only one defect on 1000 pros. But root solve that.
I have compared z5 from xz... And xz is far away better and stable. Z5 thanks to snapdragon 810 have a confused battery. Sometimes is Great, Sometimes is horrible. Camera is very worst, performances too. Fingerprint too. Only pro is speakers.
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Double tap is working fine after. 417 fw.
Loudspeakers aren't the best. But not the worst. Some smartphones do worst than this. On call i agree only one defect on 1000 pros. But root solve that.
I have compared z5 from xz... And xz is far away better and stable. Z5 thanks to snapdragon 810 have a confused battery. Sometimes is Great, Sometimes is horrible. Camera is very worst, performances too. Fingerprint too. Only pro is speakers.
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My device is runnin 41.2.A.2.199
But as Atrax stated middle of the screen works fine for double tap. But it sure is annoying coming from z5. I just don't feel like it as a feature.
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Like in thread, write here what u expect from the Xperia M succesor, and do the things we already know about her (resolution,processor etc.) fit ur bill.
Soooo, let me be first.
On paper she looks quite nice, if she will be cheap enough (up to 300 dollars) im in.
Only thing that im worried about is her screen. I dont want to see xperiaSP quality screen here. This will be low/mid end device, and i shouldnt want too many from it, but still. I think that if sony will do quite good optimalization for it and they will give to her good screen (good, i dont need super mega hiper OMG screen) she will be good option to buy. Dont forget that now her biggest oponent is Moto G which has super performance, nice screen and she is quite cheap, so it will be nice challenge for M2.
Will it be a nice and dev-friendly phone? Write below
Why is m2 considered a lady here :/
doctor_droid said:
Why is m2 considered a lady here :/
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Isn't every phone is?
Sent from my C1605 using xda app-developers app
doctor_droid said:
Why is m2 considered a lady here :/
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Soryyy, in my lang "xperia" word sounds like a girl
No coz shes price at over 20k
Probably not
It would fit my bill perfectly if only Sony chose to have a replaceable battery instead of a non-removable one. Considering that Android devices are hard on battery life, replaceable batteries is a must IMHO.
Man even the LG L90 offers more features than this phone at 16k but is officially priced at 20k
Press thanks :good: if I've helped :highfive:
What made me consider this brand in first place was having a Sony SW2, and pairing with a Sony handset allows me to use all the features of it, but when i read the spec sheet and found that between other things these handsets are the ones that have ANT+ connectivity that made my day. And €245 in Europe is a reasonably price for a Dual Handset.
I've been reading nearly everywhere that this phone has very low calling volume.
Is this true? Have many users experienced this problem??
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Man even the LG L90 offers more features than this phone at 16k but is officially priced at 20k
Press thanks :good: if I've helped :highfive:
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Sure the price per feature is much lower there.
If you hold both phones in your hands the difference in build quality is glaring.
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It would fit my bill perfectly if only Sony chose to have a replaceable battery instead of a non-removable one. Considering that Android devices are hard on battery life, replaceable batteries is a must IMHO.
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I got an M2, despite of being exactly the same opinion. It came with my contract. Lucky, I can report the M2 is quite ok in terms of battery life.
Here is my initial impression:
- acceptable battery
- screen is big but has lower end resolution
- light leaching on black
- relatively dim screen at factory setting, but still very well readable
- glossy housing is a PITA
- reactively heavy
- not nice form factor (as previous curved Xperias)
- not water resistant
- boot up animation is something for kids
- speaker sound is not as good as others
- sound could be louder overall
- loads of bloatware
- card slot cover flimsy, I am counting the days for it to drop off
- main button well articulated and easy to reach at the right location
- volume button to small and should be above the main button
- the nice LED on the bottom does not work, respectively I see it only working when changing the themes ... ?
Would it be so hard for companies to equippe phones with a rubber outside frame for basic drop protection? Why construct everything "throw away" style?
The volume buttons is in the same position as the Z2. If you look at Z2's power button you will be surprise at how convenient M2's power button is. The LED at the bottom also glows when switching songs in Walkman
After 4 days of usage
I found the biggest M2 annoyance is the greenish screen tint. The second biggest annoyance is the light sensor implementation. There is screen brightness pumping. I installed YAAB to correct that. I hope Sony can correct this with a software update (?).
LED at the bottom should be modded to be useful.
Glossy surface is also an annoyance. I ordered a rubber case.
Speaker opening at the bottom is exactly at the spot which I use to position my small finger to support the phone. Seal is perfect. That might be the reason why some people say sound being quiet.
The rest is quite ok. I
The screen tint and light sensor, all true. Also the camera, I often get yellowish shots ( maybe the firmware is the problem, reported to sony forum )
About LED, I agree with you that it should be modded to be of better use
I don't find the glossy back annoying at all
I am right now confussed B/W Xperia m2 and Htc Desire 700.Can you tell me from your experience about this phone Biggest Pros and Cons
By the looks of it, I'm quite satisfied with the phone. It darn fast, and I like it. Camera would be only cons I have so far, but everything else is good. As for camera, it's quite bad for the night shots, but good on the day shots.
Maybe it would bee too much to expect phone of this price to have everything perfect, so I don't mind the camera being bad. Battery is also good. It can last 2 days if phone is not used much.
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By the looks of it, I'm quite satisfied with the phone. It darn fast, and I like it. Camera would be only cons I have so far, but everything else is good. As for camera, it's quite bad for the night shots, but good on the day shots.
Maybe it would bee too much to expect phone of this price to have everything perfect, so I don't mind the camera being bad. Battery is also good. It can last 2 days if phone is not used much.
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Close to three days if I only use for mail, messenging, calls, and the occasional website.
Still close to 48 h with frequent navigation use.
That's certainly not bad compared to most other phones, but target should be 5 - 7 days.
The screen uses astonishing low power. This phone is sure good for travellers. The greenish screen tint gets unnoticed after a while, the camera is reasonable, 4.3 is not good.
I got an Xperia M2 yesterday, and I'm loving it. yes I do have the same sort of greenish/yellow screen tint, but I actually prefer this color reproduction to the harsh blue-tinted display of the original XM. The camera is also a massive improvement from the XM, and the device is quite more responsive. 10/10 worth it
Got mine a fewer days. I already have newer ones Xperia like Z1 and ZQ; a model made from Z1 to Brazil. The M2 at the first moment seems a compact Z2, like the design, the place where buttons are. Weight is good for the size, also it is thin. I think Sony could do a 5inch screen cause there are too much bars arounding the lcd or if they cut, made more a compact device, like they did with ZQ, made it perfect and confortable. The LCD quality is ok, nothing really to be glad like others Xperia but for a mid from Sony i expected more ppi, it has almost less 100 compared to Moto G. Also the glass i didnt like, keeps too easy dust and fingers prints and it isnt too easy to clean. Camera resolution is awful, i wont comment about the VGA cause dont worth it, so i couldn believe that Sony done that, even that old mobiles like Xperia ARC, X10, they have a much better cam. Really dont understand why Sony made such a dummbie phone. Now, the surprise is that came with and old 4.3 JB in times that we are already in 4.4.4 versions. The CPU is good, felt some laggys, nothing really bad but for a quad should make better operations. Volume sound is poor, even with headset, like the equalizer and the multiple options but unfortunatly these couldnt make sounds better. Finally battery isnt nothing especial, mine is with almost 18hours of good usage before a make a new charge cycle. Anyway, my opinions are based that already have the Moto G, a trully competitor and that made really good impressions.
Hi Z3 owners.
I just noticed a rather disturbing clicking noise from my Z3 when picking it up yesterday. After prodding about with it for a couple of minutes, it turns out that its coming from the middle of the back panel on the phone.
It sounds like the glue has come unstuck in the middle between case and phone. Only seems to be in the middle though, nowhere else.
Just wondering if anyone else has had the same issue? Or if its always been there and is just something ive never noticed before.
Im just a little concerned about the effect on water resistance. It looks like it was a significant problem on the Z / Z1 but, not seen any reports on the newer Z models.
TIA
I just did a quick check and..... it does make noises
Apparently Sony doesn't know how quality control works....
I've had this issue on both of my Z3's. The first one was not waterproof and failed underwater, the touchscreen no longer works.
My new one will be going back to T-Mobile as the camera button is defective as well...
Hello everyone,
I came from a Z1, the mic started malfunctioning and I could only be when using handsfree on it.
So I ordered a Z3 from my carrier, got it shipped by mail. When I received it, the SIM/SD card flap wouldn't close properly, so I phoned customer service and got a replacement Z3 mailed to me. The next one I got (received it 3 days ago) looked fine, until today when I took it out of my front pocket. I heard a poping sound, I had earphones plugged into it. I could see the back glass starting to come off. I'd say whole top left 1/4 of the phone is not glued on anymore.
I really liked the Z1 and the Z3 as well as features and look go, but I am now getting unsure about getting this phone. Am I just unlucky and got two poorly built units, or are they mostly all bad?
JF
You're not the only one, no. My sister bought a Z3 and the left side of the back panel (looking at the back) is not properly attached either, and is flexed outwards. After a small amount of use its to the point now where it is sort of flapping about and she needs to use a case.
My girlfriends Z3 went into a small amount of fresh water to take one picture and moments later the screen went black and died completely. After a few minutes googling i found many other people having the same issues with the Z3's.
Just bad luck bud, get it exchanged while you can. Carriers can be real douche after 7 days or whatever depending your location.
Nothing wrong with my z3 even though its second hand. *fingers crossed*
Just got my 3rd Z3, this one the flaps look fine, the back glass seems glued correctly and it passes the pressure test... The downside is, the box was sealed when I got it, but it was missing the screen protectors. Oh well... just my luck. I'll peel off the ones from the previous one before I ship it back, until I order some new ones.
JF
brockolicosmique said:
Just got my 3rd Z3, this one the flaps look fine, the back glass seems glued correctly and it passes the pressure test... The downside is, the box was sealed when I got it, but it was missing the screen protectors. Oh well... just my luck. I'll peel off the ones from the previous one before I ship it back, until I order some new ones.
JF
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Xperia Z3 dosent come with screen protectors, so this is not a flaw.
Also you was just unlucky. I bought mine one month ago, i hadnt a single problem with it so far.
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Xperia Z3 dosent come with screen protectors, so this is not a flaw.
Also you was just unlucky. I bought mine one month ago, i hadnt a single problem with it so far.
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Yes it does.
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Yes it does.
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Then its market depend, here in Croatia i know many cases that Z3 dosent have screen protector, even mine dont have.
Also many cases on internet i readed.
electrash said:
Then its market depend, here in Croatia i know many cases that Z3 dosent have screen protector, even mine dont have.
Also many cases on internet i readed.
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It may be.
The first two Z3's I got had screen protectors included in the box. The last one didn't...
Anyway, the last Z3 will go back as it is no longer working. Over the weekend, I was at a friend's batchelor party and we were doing indoor surfing. I was filming him from aside and the phone took a few water splashes, and the display started flickering and died within a few minutes. I am terribly dissapointed in this phone. I really enjoyed my Z1, with all it's glitches and freezing. The Z3's performance was great, it seems it's just the build quality. I had bough my wife a Z3 a few months ago, as she likes water sports and she liked how I could use my Z1 at the beach/lake, but now she is scared of even getting some rain on her's, and we can't return it for another one since we're over the buyer's remorse period.
It's a shame there are no other waterproof phones out there (besides Samsungs).
JF
brockolicosmique said:
The first two Z3's I got had screen protectors included in the box. The last one didn't...
Anyway, the last Z3 will go back as it is no longer working. Over the weekend, I was at a friend's batchelor party and we were doing indoor surfing. I was filming him from aside and the phone took a few water splashes, and the display started flickering and died within a few minutes. I am terribly dissapointed in this phone. I really enjoyed my Z1, with all it's glitches and freezing. The Z3's performance was great, it seems it's just the build quality. I had bough my wife a Z3 a few months ago, as she likes water sports and she liked how I could use my Z1 at the beach/lake, but now she is scared of even getting some rain on her's, and we can't return it for another one since we're over the buyer's remorse period.
It's a shame there are no other waterproof phones out there (besides Samsungs).
JF
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Buy SAMSUNG and do with that indoor surfing.
Now that's some really bad luck. I heard the Z3 is less than perfect when it comes to build quality but this is just insane. Mine works well and is waterproof but has a dead pixel (I think it's covered under warranty but I don't feel like going to the service center). I hope you get one that works. Other than that if you want something with less than flagship specs there are plenty of rugged phones to choose from. Buy one of those for watersports and buy a different flagship for daily use. I heard the Samsung S6 is supposed to be pretty good.
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Now that's some really bad luck. I heard the Z3 is less than perfect when it comes to build quality but this is just insane. Mine works well and is waterproof but has a dead pixel (I think it's covered under warranty but I don't feel like going to the service center). I hope you get one that works. Other than that if you want something with less than flagship specs there are plenty of rugged phones to choose from. Buy one of those for watersports and buy a different flagship for daily use. I heard the Samsung S6 is supposed to be pretty good.
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Go and buy S6, we don' t care about how good it is.
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Go and buy S6, we don' t care about how good it is.
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Chill, I was just giving OP my point of view. He seems to be very disappointed with Sony but he wants a waterproof phone, his best option is to buy a rugged phone for watery outdoors and a different flagship for daily dry use. I like my Z3 more than the S6, but if my Z3 were to suddenly explode and make me get buyer's remorse I would most likely buy the S6 which is the second best phone on the market after Z3 imo.
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Chill, I was just giving OP my point of view. He seems to be very disappointed with Sony but he wants a waterproof phone, his best option is to buy a rugged phone for watery outdoors and a different flagship for daily dry use. I like my Z3 more than the S6, but if my Z3 were to suddenly explode and make me get buyer's remorse I would most likely buy the S6 which is the second best phone on the market after Z3 imo.
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Ok, no problem.
I think I'll keep the Z1 around for watersports. It still runs fine, the only problem is the mic is busted on it. I was thinking of using it with a sports band to put on my forearm and use as a GPS while riding my motorcycle. I'll just get a regular, non-waterproof phone instead.
I've had a Galaxy S4 in the past. The hardware is great, but I don't like the UI and all the software they load it with. I might look into the M9, since it seems like the one of the last ones with SD card support. Anyone has comments on it?
JF
#1: The sd/sim tray is so poorly designed it'll actually not slot into place properly and I've used this device for only a few minutes. This means the IP rating is basically useless since if anything sips in due to how the tray is designed it'll leak straight to the screen and everything else. I've tried to use minor force to slot in in the place "properly" but the thing is that the flat part that covers the slot wobbles meaning it is not static, which means we have a topkek moment a la Z1-5 flap issue all over again.
#2: The sd card reader is gimped, less than half (getting 1/3) the speeds compared to say the XZ1.
#3: Now let's talk about the elephant in the room shall we? The glass backside, It's not flat! Meaning it can't sit on anything with a slight decline like your bed, pillow, or anything slippery for that matter. You either buy a derpy case or live with the fact that this device can't even sit flat unless otherwise.
#4: Weight was added for no reason, and a lot of people tend to believe that weight equals quality, but in this case it had no reason whatsoever. And what's the best of it all?! Said weight made it thicker, which means they had plenty of space to add that headphone jack that was removed because they had to follow the fruitcake trend. And because it's rounded in the rear, it makes the actual thickness seem thinner than it's predecessor which is around 2-3mm thinner which has guess what? A headphone jack! And don't give me that BS about needed cooling, the S9 is thinner (about the same as the XZ1) and comes in both Exynos and SD flavors.
#5: Let's remind ourselves once again why the headphone jack was removed, not to mention a lot of regions won't even ship with any headphones (nordic region here) which felt kinda cheap, but at least they provided a dongle!
I got a pair of MDR-EX650AP and WH-H900N if anyone is wondering and both come in handy, trust me.
Goto admit I love my XZ2 and I only agree with you on No.2 and No.5...
2... Im using a Samsung 64GB 95mb/s SDCard andthe read speed is rubbish.. this is my second XZ2 and its exactly the same.. so it tells me theres a software issue.. In both the SONY Music app and using the home screen widget, from pressing play.. It takes about 3 secs before music starts playing.. and Im getting lag when accessing phot9os and files on SDCard... theres been 2 updates so far... 145 and 159.. and neither updates have fixed this
5.. Dont even mention the stupidity of removing the Headphone jack from devices ... its been a thorn in everyones side since HTC, the first Android Dev to follow Apple with this "Sheep" like trend on their U Ultra last March 17.. and now its a thing... do you know what really gets me is everybody complains about on forums, yet nobody goes on a Devs Twitter or FB page and says "I was going to buy your phone, but because you removed the 3.5 jack, Ive bought a Samsung instead"... do you know, if everyone started saying that.. we'd have the Jack back by 2019... because regardless of the device you actually buy.. theres nothing worse for a DEV than critisism on their front pages.
Anyway... I think the XZ2 is a gorgeous device, beautifully weighted, stunning.. yes, STUNNING and simple camera, great speakers.. anda great screen, No its not perfect.. buts its pretty good
I'd also add the downgrading of the front camera to 5mp from the 13mp in last year's XZ models. Though I wonder if that could have been a space issue at the edge for the module.
It's the one thing (well and the SD card speed) that is keeping me from upgrading from an XZ1. Though if the price gets low enough...
And #6 - no double tap to wake the phone... I am not sure why this was removed since the Sony X series.. its a real shame....
The camera is still bad ala sony
Allesa said:
The camera is still bad ala sony
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Camera isn't that bad. But don't use the Auto Mode!
I've made some comparisons (maybe i can show one later at home) and the auto mode is just bad. It makes blurry pictures, especially the darker areas. Switching to manual mode with auto settings raises the quality extremely. Don't know if that's a bug or whatever...
No wired video out is a big one for me...
I can't deal with the deletion of Video app. I can't play videos other than in MP4 format. I don't like to install those badly designed apps from google play. Any solutions?
AlvinZahran98 said:
I can't deal with the deletion of Video app. I can't play videos other than in MP4 format. I don't like to install those badly designed apps from google play. Any solutions?
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Install vlc (playstore). It nearly all types of media files.
Guys do you have problems with screen scrolling? I can see alot blur on screen when I scrool black tekst on white page. It makes me dizzy. Is it because poor pixel response time on that IPS panel? I had before Lenovo Zuk Z2 IPS and Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro AMOLED and no problems on them at all. I have this on Oreo and this Android P beta... This LCD seems to be terrible... also too much of white colours, looks like milk splash on glass. Any way to fix it? Colour calibration does not help on these both issues.
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And #6 - no double tap to wake the phone... I am not sure why this was removed since the Sony X series.. its a real shame....
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Get a proximity wake app like Gravity Screen from the store and you won't care.
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It gets scratched as crazy; got scratches both on the back & front after a few days of usage.
In comparison, my Xiaomi Mi Mix displayed similar "material usage" after 1 year. Something's definitely wrong.
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Guys do you have problems with screen scrolling? I can see alot blur on screen when I scrool black tekst on white page. It makes me dizzy. Is it because poor pixel response time on that IPS panel? I had before Lenovo Zuk Z2 IPS and Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro AMOLED and no problems on them at all. I have this on Oreo and this Android P beta... This LCD seems to be terrible... also too much of white colours, looks like milk splash on glass. Any way to fix it? Colour calibration does not help on these both issues.
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Weird, no blur on my H8296 6GB.
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It gets scratched as crazy; got scratches both on the back & front after a few days of usage.
In comparison, my Xiaomi Mi Mix displayed similar "material usage" after 1 year. Something's definitely wrong.
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Weird, mine is fine.
There is also a bend and scratch test on YouTube to demonstrate it.
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
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Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
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There are water resistant speakers which break physical laws and transmit the sound through water without any quality degradation?
Haldi4803 said:
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
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1. Water will block sound waves, not a huge amount you can do with a phone.
2. Not an issue for me as I use my left ear and my little finger is the other side of the USB.
My most annoying thing on this phone is the XZ2 is very slippery!! Cannot even sit calmly if there is a slight angle on the surface! Have to buy a case to prevent this though...
Haldi4803 said:
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
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You are dumb. Speaker grill has some material that prevent water to drop inside and if water stays on grill, sound can't get through that water. Dry it and sound will increase again. That is common for all phones. This is not a flaw.
tomo100brt said:
You are dumb. Speaker grill has some material that prevent water to drop inside and if water stays on grill, sound can't get through that water. Dry it and sound will increase again. That is common for all phones. This is not a flaw.
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"Dumb" is impolite, but I can understand you.
Everyone who had physics in school should understand this behaviour.
Btw.
I hate 2 things
1. The DRM **** (it is my first Sony phone)
So I hope for a drm fix which doesn't reduce the camera quality if used with aosp and gcam.
2. The slow, undocumented sdcard performance of 20mb/sec.
The only flaw that stops me from buying anything from the XZ2 line-up is the sad lack of development support, specially custom kernel development.
Sadly enough.
Returned this phone. Why?
Having come from z3 , was expecting vast improvement.
Too heavy, absolute brick. Infact I swear you would get RSI from holding it too long.
Speakers, nasty , distorted at high volume. Maybe just mine, but shop said loads of them returned.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ2/Broken-XZ2-audio-speaker/td-p/1313319#gref
No 3.5 headphone jack. Nuff said.
No FM radio.
Its spins when on flat desk, even with case!!
Fingerprint scanner in totally wrong place.
Really poor design.
Really? U din't check before buying?
Complain by Sony and not here !! -__-
I also came from Z3. I have to say that it is a major improvement over Z3.
As a matter of fact, we recognize haters because they always start a new thread instead of posting in the already existing threads... :laugh:
Yeah, the hate is getting way out of proportion.
Many of them who hated this phone never even see the phone in person.
i loathed the design when i saw the first press release fotos...
It looks way better if you hold it in your hands than compared to fotos.
Still could be better.
P.S Someone already reported the thread and asked for moving to Q&A ?
Please close this useless thread !
I came from a z3 and it's a nice big leap in performance. Fingerprint sensor is not in the prefect place but I don't have an issue using it, speakers just fine none of the issues done have. I'm not a fan of the shape out of a case, it's a stupid back and far too slippery, but add I use a case it's not really an issue.
Overall I'm happy.
Next time do a little research before investing so much in a phone. That's not sarcasm, it's common sense.
fingerprint is in my case at the right place. I'm left handed. Came from the Z5. Overall I love the phone. I only hate the backcover and its "feature". to spin it.
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fingerprint is in my case at the right place. I'm left handed. Came from the Z5. Overall I love the phone. I only hate the backcover and its "feature". to spin it.
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I am right handed, and I agree, just the right place. Could never understand people hating on the placement. It's not the same place as other phones. But I like it where it is. The speakers are amazing! And I love the screen. Overall a beautiful phone. The only reason I didn't keep it, is because I work out in the country where T-mobiles service is borderline. Having a phone with great reception is a must for me. And this phone is just average. Really loved everything else about it.
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Returned this phone. Why?
Having come from z3 , was expecting vast improvement.
Too heavy, absolute brick. Infact I swear you would get RSI from holding it too long.
Speakers, nasty , distorted at high volume. Maybe just mine, but shop said loads of them returned.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ2/Broken-XZ2-audio-speaker/td-p/1313319#gref
No 3.5 headphone jack. Nuff said.
No FM radio.
Its spins when on flat desk, even with case!!
Fingerprint scanner in totally wrong place.
Really poor design.
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I'm able to hold the phone during hours without any pain, the curved back is a great improvement.
My speakers work without any distortion even at maximum level.
You have a dongle in the box the plug your headphones, 10 more cm at the end of your headphones jack doesn't matter.
FM radio is discontinued since a long time.
I've added a back screen protector, the phone doesn't spin anymore and isn't slippery neither.
Fingerprint scanner could have been placed a little bit higher but after a week of use, that's not a problem anymore.
Design is my taste.
But why did you buy the phone of you don't like it? Were you forced buy someone?
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I'm able to hold the phone during hours without any pain, the curved back is a great improvement.
My speakers work without any distortion even at maximum level.
You have a dongle in the box the plug your headphones, 10 more cm at the end of your headphones jack doesn't matter.
FM radio is discontinued since a long time.
I've added a back screen protector, the phone doesn't spin anymore and isn't slippery neither.
Fingerprint scanner could have been placed a little bit higher but after a week of use, that's not a problem anymore.
Design is my taste.
But why did you buy the phone of you don't like it? Were you forced buy someone?
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Exactly 100% agree and same meaning what i have ^^
XZ2 is perfect and no issues or problems or something to complain at all
Agreed, those who complained about XZ2 either haven't use the phone and just listened to what haters said or have a faulty device.
I have no complaint about this phone. Perfectly placed fps for aesthetics and ergonomics, lack of 3.5 mm headphone jack is a pity but I can tolerate it, and the design and ergonomics are fantastic.
For me missing is only noice canceling feature in XZ2 or other new line of xperia
This lcd on xz2 is a blurry crap with lines on the screen if surface is hot and you move finger fast. Crap.
Nothing wrong on my LCD screen even when hot surface.
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This lcd on xz2 is a blurry crap with lines on the screen if surface is hot and you move finger fast. Crap.
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Its the sharpest lcd screen in a phone at the moment what the xz2 have so maybe there is something wrong with your eyes !!
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Its the sharpest lcd screen in a phone at the moment what the xz2 have so maybe there is something wrong with your eyes !!
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Sharpest?
My Nexus 6 had more dpi.
MartinX3 said:
Sharpest?
My Nexus 6 had more dpi.
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And can u see any difference?