I hate to nit-pick and I'm generally happy and relieved that I simply even got a unit, but both my left and right side are now creaky.. even the bottom is starting a bit.
I still have a week left, what should I do? Should I just return the unit and wait it out? Do anything think theres a way to stop the creaking?
Mine does the same, I am going to just accept it as others have this issue as well.
define creak? Mine has some flex in the back but no actual sound accompanying it.
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Mine does the same, I am going to just accept it as others have this issue as well.
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Ya I've read that it's fairly widespread, but does yours creak on 3/4 of the sides? or just the left side?
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define creak? Mine has some flex in the back but no actual sound accompanying it.
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definitely with sound. it clicks
Nope none of that.
PS: I've had it for 2 weeks now.
Mine creaks on the 3/4 of the right side. That is if i press it/hold it hard enough. Usually I'm cradling it with both hands or having it attached to the keyboard dock, so it's not that big of a deal for me.
And we wonder how they got this tablet down to $400 Mine creaks on the upper right if I apply a little pressure (like if I hold it with one hand on that side), but it's not like it creaks enough to drive me crazy, or even drive me irritated. You sacrifice build quality for hitting that magic $400 price point, it is what it is.
If there is flex, then there means that there is empty space. If that's the case, why isn't the TF slimmer?!
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And we wonder how they got this tablet down to $400 Mine creaks on the upper right if I apply a little pressure (like if I hold it with one hand on that side), but it's not like it creaks enough to drive me crazy, or even drive me irritated. You sacrifice build quality for hitting that magic $400 price point, it is what it is.
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I'm sorry but that's simply false
My European HTC hero back cover creaked from the start and that thing has only seen torment for the past 2 years (7 ft. plus drops multiple times a week, don't ask ;_; ) and it's in full working order, undamaged. Creaky plastic does not signify build quality.
Mine creaks on the right hand side but I generally hold it with my left hand on the back of the unit or rest it on my stomach when in portrait mode, feet up sitting in my La-Z-Boy.
Had mine for 2 weeks and don't have any creaking in any orientation.
I have quite a bit of creaking as well, along with a gap on the left-hand side of the screen. I'll probably swap mine out before my 30 days is up with Amazon, and when stock is more available. I'm hoping that's how it works out, anyways.
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I'm sorry but that's simply false
My European HTC hero back cover creaked from the start and that thing has only seen torment for the past 2 years (7 ft. plus drops multiple times a week, don't ask ;_; ) and it's in full working order, undamaged. Creaky plastic does not signify build quality.
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And neither does light bleed, gaps, dust under the screen, or sharp edges, I guess Look I'm fine with some cut corners, it's what you have to expect when something seems to affordable too be true. I'm not saying that the Transformer is going to fall apart in your hands, but creaky build quality is usually a result of cutting corners.
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And neither does light bleed, gaps, dust under the screen, or sharp edges, I guess Look I'm fine with some cut corners, it's what you have to expect when something seems to affordable too be true. I'm not saying that the Transformer is going to fall apart in your hands, but creaky build quality is usually a result of cutting corners.
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Not everyone has lightbleed and even the iPad and iPad 2 had lightbleed issues, I doubt those were because of shoddy manufacturing.
Also the sharp edges are part of the design, I can't really relate to anyone complaining about the "sharp"corners since the angular bezel edge design really isn't that bad on your finger tips or hands.
Also my HTC hero has a dust spec under the screen, just because something isn't perfect in design doesn't mean it's shoddy manufacturing or cutting corners in manufacturing, it's just a flawed design.
Not sharp corners, sharp edges -- run your fingers along the back edge of the tablet and you'll see. Look, I don't care much about the build quality, it's satisfactory to me, but some of you are in denial
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Not sharp corners, sharp edges -- run your fingers along the back edge of the tablet and you'll see. Look, I don't care much about the build quality, it's satisfactory to me, but some of you are in denial
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Not denial, my point is it's flawed design, not build quality.
Sharp edges on plastic, enough to cut if you were the careless type, are not bad design, it's cutting corners, which is build quality. Exposed plastic like that would normally be dulled so as to not be so sharp, but leaving it raw like that is a cost-cutting move, and is a build-quality issue. So is light bleeding, screen dust, and creaking.
I can't poll every Transformer owner to see if they all have the same build quality issues, but I bet if a good number ran their fingers along the back edge to check for sharpness, applied pressure to the case to hear it creak, or checked for light bleeding, they'd have one, if not all three. Things to be expected during a first run, and definitely expected when you've undercut the competition by so much. My position is if those things bother you, return it. I'm keeping mine.
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Sharp edges on plastic, enough to cut if you were the careless type, are not bad design, it's cutting corners, which is build quality. Exposed plastic like that would normally be dulled so as to not be so sharp, but leaving it raw like that is a cost-cutting move, and is a build-quality issue. So is light bleeding, screen dust, and creaking.
I can't poll every Transformer owner to see if they all have the same build quality issues, but I bet if a good number ran their fingers along the back edge to check for sharpness, applied pressure to the case to hear it creak, or checked for light bleeding, they'd have one, if not all three. Things to be expected during a first run, and definitely expected when you've undercut the competition by so much. My position is if those things bother you, return it. I'm keeping mine.
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First off light bleeding is a fault of the LCD manufacturer. LG was at fault for the bad iPad 2 screens. Apple used both LG and Samsung, and only the LG ones had the issue quite regularly.
I don't have any plastic edges on mine. My plastic backing definitely fits inside the aluminum frame. I cannot feel any sharp edges along my back, and I'm trying to be nit picky for the sake of your argument. I have a slight creek in one spot on the right edge, that is the only build quality issue I have of all, and it is slight. My suggestion if you see separation or your plastic back is not inside the frame RMA it to Asus, or return to the store. It could be as simple of a fix of them taking it apart and putting it back together with more care.
I think the point is being missed here. I'm fine with the sharp edge -- hell, mine stays in the Asus case, I don't even feel it. The argument was whether or not build quality was compromised (and that includes parts from companies other than Asus, cost is cost), and I think it was. If you told me I could get a $400 tablet with an IPS screen, and I'd have to deal with a sharp edge and some creaking (I don't notice light bleed and I don't want to look for it because I don't want to notice it! ), I'd jump all over it. No need to get defensive, in the end it's just a piece of consumer electronics.
I just wanted to post my experience using Extreme Guard on my Sensation.
Installation took about 25 minutes, overall it wasn't that hard.
The most challenging aspect/cons were:
1. The small holes for the microphones/noise reduction are so small and hard to remove without stretching the plastic or making the plastic look kind of white/funny.
2. I am not sure if it was just my cutout piece but the middle back section wasn't pre-cut very well and I ended up with some jagged edges on the back because of this.
3. The screen protector looks slightly beat up on angles after 2 days. This is mostly my fault as the rubbery texture does feel really nice and I would tap my nails on it kind of just holding the phone. I realized after at an angle I can now see a scuffed up surface on the coating.
4. No protection for the outer rims on the phone.
5. Make sure to remove the plastic where any tiny holes are our it WILL effect your audio quality. (at first I missed the microphone hole and thought my mic was bad cause people complained how I sounded) this was fixed as soon as I removed the cover from that small hole.
Now for the Pros:
1. Installation overall went smooth.
2. Once it cures although it looks shiny and doesn't have 100% coverage it does make the phone feel alot more solid and gripable(honestly I though I would drop the phone with it's standard material.
3. The touch screen works fine with the thicker material over it but does have a slightly rubbery feeling.
4. At first I thought it looked horrible and I messed the whole thing up. I followed directions and used soap and water to apply. It was hazy some slight air bubbles and overall looked horrible in all aspects. I let it go for about 2-3 days and as promised it dried out and there is no more bubbles or haziness. I am really impressed how it turned around, it's really a snug clear fit on the phone.
Overall I would suggest getting this if you don't mind the glossy look and the lack of coverage around the rim of the phone. I think the grip alone will save the phone from a nasty fall and certainly protect the screen if dropped.
I hope this helps someone. I can't post a link because I am new here but you can easily find it on ebay.
Pics or it didn't happen
Ill see what I can do for pix...I sold my old phone so this will be a challenge as I don't have a digital cam. However I am noticing the screen protector through use is getting slight marks in the plastic from my nails. I don't have long nails at all...just normal length for a Guy but just the slight tapping on the screen(protector) causes visible marks when the screen is dimmed.
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I have had my Surface RT for a few months now and I can honestly say that the build quality of Surface RT is just solid - it feels like a slab of titanium or something. It doesn't get dents, it gives dents..to walls, tables etc.
Not that I think it is a problem, especially when compared to the competition, but I am not sure the precision of the build quite matches this great solidity. I am looking to do a little comparison so I am going to list all the little tiny misfits I could find on my Surface because I am wondering if these are common or just random.
1. The kickstand is not perfectly flush with the device when closed. And it sticks out a tiny bit more on the power connector side of the Surface.
2. The thin metal plate on the back above the kickstand doesn't seem to be flush with the case near the 3.5mm audio jack. Also, at the same side it seems a bit dent inwards on the corner where it meets the plastic strip (see attached photo).
3. The screen glass seems to go just a little bit deeper into the device right below the capacitive Windows button. It's mostly flush everywhere else.
4. The whole device seems a bit bent like a boomerang. I tried putting a ruler on the screen lengthways, and the middle of the screen didn't reach the ruler.
All of these things listed are barely noticeable.
Also, though the finish seems really tough, I think it might be a bit weaker near one of the corners where some grey metal spots started appearing.
I am not having any issues with the touch cover though you can easily tell it's been used just by looking at the bending place and the rubbery corners.
Despite all this I am confident that this is by far the most stunning piece of hardware I have ever seen, especially bearing in mind it's price.
I just got my second replacement. First one had a light leak in the middle of the screen. The second one that I just returned because of dead pixels was the worst in build quality, probably just a bad batch or unit. It had all the symptoms you describe above. In addition the volume rocker was asymmetric and (-) all the way down with almost no response to a press. All three had/have the thin metal plate at the camera not entirely flush with the rest towards the audio jack. This new unit I have is otherwise perfect. the kickstand is perfectly even, the buttons are all symmetric in response. Most importantly the screen on this is perfect, no dead pixels or light leaks (only the ones at the edge which are only visible in the dark). Very happy with this one.
If you live close to an MS store I'd take it in and ask nicely if the problems you see warrant a replacement. I did and had no issues with exchange.
cheers
Does any one have problem with build quality?
When I push screen(glass) on left side near edges it's moving down and up, like it's not properly bonded. Also right bottom corner of screen is not in same level as edges, so it's kinda sharp when you go with finger over it.
I am not sure, should I go and change device or its like that on every device
Maybe you should get a replacement I haven't noticed that on mine.
I haven't noticed that but I did notice that when I was putting on a screen protector last night and looking under a light, you can see what looks like hairline scratches or marks on the glass. It's only when you hold the phone at certain angles that you can see them.
Mine has a tiny piece of trash or dirt under the screen, very small but annoying
Hello,
Received my Note10+ yesterday, so far love the device.
I just noticed today (this morning) on bright sun / light a gap of couple of millimeters on top of the screen.
Looks like screen is not going to the edge on top side only, is this normal?
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that gap is for the sensors and speaker
Thank you very much for your time and responding to this thread.
I am a little bit confused, isnt the speaker at the bottom?
I had Samsung S10+ until yesterday, and i do not remember seeing gap like this (its not the same phone, but, probably similar design / i might be wrong though).
Thank you
The gap in the middle 2 arrows are the cut out for the front speaker the other gaps are where the screen meets the frame sometime there bigger on different phones its hut and miss
But if it bothers you exchange it for one that fits a bit better
Thank you very much for responding.
I think i have 15 days to replace / return the phone (i will re-check), but, if its kinda normal, and possible on any other phone, even replacement, i do not think its wise to do it.
Once i put case on, i do not even think it will be that visible (hardly visible now as well if not on bright light).
Biggest concern if this would affect IP68 in anyway
Thanks
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Thank you very much for responding.
I think i have 15 days to replace / return the phone (i will re-check), but, if its kinda normal, and possible on any other phone, even replacement, i do not think its wise to do it.
Once i put case on, i do not even think it will be that visible (hardly visible now as well if not on bright light).
Biggest concern if this would affect IP68 in anyway
Thanks
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I think there is a way you can test the ip rating without obviously putting it in water
Back when I had the xperia phones you could squeeze the device and check the pressure didn't rise and stay risen to indicate its water tight
Thank you again for your time.
I decided to test that gap by pouring water on it for about 20-30 seconds, no issues at all.
I will not bother with this, will just enjoy the phone.
Thanks again.
The picture link is not working. From my understanding the only small gap should be in the center where the top speaker hole is. But the left and right side of the top speaker till the corner should not have any gap. I am having the same issue. I'm going to check to see if other models are like that.
Same, should not be there.
In the end i decided to return the phone.
Upon closer inspections took some photos and judging by other demo units on display. They all have that white line gap. Some are more noticable than others. But same line can be seen. I compared 3 different phones from different stores. They all exist. It's seems like that white line looks like maybe it's the adhesive glue. The middle does not have it where the ear speaker cutout is, where the ear speaker hole ends on both side left and right white line is visible because of the extra gap on both sides and it appears that the line stops before the corner on each side of the glass on the top. It's maybe nitpicking buts it's really annoying. I checked on the S10 it's not present on that model and none I see on the Note 9 too. I checked. And since it's like white color can be visible inside the small gap line on the top where the glass meets up with the metal frame.
I actually just discovered that I can get a piece of paper down between the top of the screen and the frame on my Note 10 +!!!??? All along the top of the glass - from the top left corner to the right?
Is this what you are talking about? And will the phone still be waterproof? (There could still be a rubber membrane that prevents water from entering the insides of the phone...)