256GB SD permissions and raw photos? - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

Many times a simple problem turns complex....... like now.
I take many photos on my phone, dSLR, GoPro, MavicPro, etc. and always shoot RAW. I do my post processing in Lightroom and Photoshop. On my S8+ I discovered LR is not importing the .DNG files. I find out it seems they need to be in the Camera Roll and I configured the stock camera to store them on the SD. I'm using the promo 256GB Samsung SD.
OK. I'll poke around with a file manager. In the rocess I find and try to delete an old folder. It asks for permission to access, I think no problem I've seen this many times before. HOWEVER, I can not grant permission the SD does not appear on the permissions screen!! Then I try a different software and see that the card is defined differently. One software even has it as a USB drive. Another simply calls it "Storage". In any case, I can't do much with it. The system seems to access it just fine in most cases.
I think OK I'll re-format it, dead end. How about merging it with the internal storage to have one huge single place for storage (not my favorite way since I may need to read the SD in a different device in case of a failure), this would solve my Lightroom issue as then I save .DNGs to the internal Camera Roll, nope.
I know I'm rambling.
The questions are:
Can this big SD be merged with the internal storage? Is there a size limit or is that not possible any more?
Anyone else using Lightroom Mobile and shooting RAW? What is your workflow?

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[Q] .Thumbdata3 file

Whenever I try and upload a file to Google Drive or add a picture from my gallery to instagram, my phone creates a file called .thumbdata3 in the thumbnails directory on my SD card. The problem with this is not the creation of the file, it's that the file is exactly the size of all the free space on the memory card... When plugged into the computer it displays "0 Bytes Free" on the SD card...
So when I choose a file from the gallery to upload to google drive or instagram, it will hang on a black screen until this file has been created (filling up the SD card), and then upload... Then i check the free space, and it is 0Bytes.
Anyone else had this and fixed it?
PS Sorry for being a noob here
Bumping this...
Anyone had this? Or have a solution?
Same thing here, unfortunately no solution. Apparently it is safe to delete the file, but it will be recreated at some point, taking up all the space on the SD card again.
For me, it grew up to 400 MB and even beyond (IIRC), which seems a bit excessive, even taking into account that there are > 2000 pictures in the DCIM folder of my SD-card at the moment. Still, 400 MB is more than a quarter of the 1.4 GB that the pictures take up, which surely does not make much sense if that is supposed to speed up the process of reading/displaying the thumbnails!?
Does anybody know a fix? Is it ICS related? I'm on Stock 4.0.3 ICS BTW, and I never noticed this behaviour before the update...
Same here, with a SE Xperia Mini Pro (4.0.4). It happened with me when the phone tried syncing Evernote notes (with pictures attached).
Maybe this topic should be moved to a more generic sub-forum; apparently it's an ICS problem...
thumbdata3
I am also currently having this problem, specially when trying to upload/import photos from gallery to instagram. the ".thumdata3...." file can go as large as 2.5 gig for me, depenending on how much space I have on my SD card before importing pics from gallery to instagram
Same happenned to me - a siolutions that worked for me
Same happened to me the .thumdata3 ate up all remaining space (1.2G) on my Samsung Galaxy S2, android 4.0.3. Any time I deleted it, it was recreated any time I opened the camera app. Then the camera app was unable to take any pic due to sd full. If I deleted this file it was re-created any time I started camera again.
Installing and running the SDrescan app (from play store) helped. Though SDrescan made stock ringtones disappear. However reboot helped that, and the large file did not came back even after restarting camera.
This worked for me, though I am not sure in the reason. Might work for you as well, or not. I must say that android 4.0 is much worse than I expected. Not the first annoying error I have found.
My guess for the reason of the error happening: I once inserted an sd card with LOTS of media content. Then all this was cached somehow in gallery.
My guess for the reason this solution works: the app erases cached SD data thus helps reducing the thumbnail cache.
rasnadas said:
Same happened to me the .thumdata3 ate up all remaining space (1.2G) on my Samsung Galaxy S2, android 4.0.3. Any time I deleted it, it was recreated any time I opened the camera app. Then the camera app was unable to take any pic due to sd full. If I deleted this file it was re-created any time I started camera again.
Installing and running the SDrescan app (from play store) helped. Though SDrescan made stock ringtones disappear. However reboot helped that, and the large file did not came back even after restarting camera.
This worked for me, though I am not sure in the reason. Might work for you as well, or not. I must say that android 4.0 is much worse than I expected. Not the first annoying error I have found.
My guess for the reason of the error happening: I once inserted an sd card with LOTS of media content. Then all this was cached somehow in gallery.
My guess for the reason this solution works: the app erases cached SD data thus helps reducing the thumbnail cache.
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I had the same issue, but unfortunately your solution didn't help me. Initially I thought it did, but after a reboot and launching Camera app, it hanged and created the .thumbdata3 file once again.
I also tried messing up with databases using SQLite Editor, as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28466334&postcount=9, but that didn't help either.
I've done some more research and found a solution here: http://www.mobilephonetalk.com/show...in-memory-card&p=311954&viewfull=1#post311954. After I deleted the .thumbdata3 file, created a blank one with Root Explorer and removed write permission to it, the file stays at 0 bytes and Camera and Gallery apps still work fine.
I have an issue with the size of the thumbdata3 file in DCIM/.thumbnails on internal memory (camera is set to store to ext SD) at the moment it is 314MB on internal memory but the thumbdata3 file in the DCIM/.thumbnail folder on ext SD is less than 1MB (I only have around 100 photos and pictures on my phone) - but camera still works (other than in the scenario described below)
If I delete the large thumbdata3 file from internal memory and then attempt to use the camera, the photo is taken without any problem but when I try to view it in either gallery or QuickPic by clicking through from the 'last image taken thumbnail' in the camera and then click back to carry on taking another picture the camera FC's. It usually does this twice and is then absolutely fine - apart from the fact that the large thumbdata3 file has been recreated on internal storage.
I've tried it numerous times and every time the same results - delete thumbdata3 from internal memory, couple of camera FC's, large thumbdata3 file recreated, no more problems (bar the loss of 314MB of storage)
I've tried replacing the thumbdata3 file on internal memory with a copy of the smaller one from Ext SD, creating a blank thumbdata3 file and setting it as read only/no write permission and neither have helped.
Its a bit weird and annoying but I won't let it take the shine off my fun with CM9, however it would be nice to recover that large chunk of storage space to be put to better use.
All the same, many thanks Arco - Beta 1 is my first CM9 install and its great :good:[/QUOTE]
Hi - haven't full troubleshooted this issue yet, but see my notes here. I have the same issue (GNEX JB 4.1.1 stock) and for me it is caused by the app KeepSafe which hides/unhides pics/videos on your phone. Note I believe this is an interaction issue between this app and the media scanning functionality in JB (and I suspect ICS), and so there are likely other apps that have the same issue. For me it creates 1 or 2 .thumbdata3 db files each around 1.3GB.
Certainly, irrespective of app causing it, you can follow the steps to purge Gallery and Media Storage, resync your gmail account and they should disappear on their own. Opening the camera and taking a photo causes the db to come back at around 400MB with a single thumbnail - one of the test files I was hiding and unhiding with KeepSafe but has since been deleted. Can't really explain this behaviour!
Any way, I made some notes on what I tested, the results and some ponderings in case this helps someone work it out:
Thumbdata3
Hiding in keep safe seems to create both the thumbnails and thumbdata file.
Clearing data/cache for gallery and media storage removes all these files? So far doesn't seem to be the case. File and db still there after. Rerunning the media scanner now. Perhaps they caused it? Also forced resync of all items in gmail account. Thumbs and db now gone. Not clear if it was the media scanning completing or the re-sync, but steps to resolve issue now appear deterministic.
Tested with single pic. Restored. No thumbs. Re-hid, thumbnail appeared for this pic and a 435MB db file.
All thumbs were for pics hidden in keep safe. However previously there were far more thumbs. Speculate - cumulative issue thru successive hide/restore cycles, possibly due to file name collision avoidance.
Deleting pic in file explorer also causes the problem? Does not appear to be the case. Gallery/Media Scanner/Media Storage handles this manual intervention far better under ICS/JB. Previously, manually removing a picture rather than deleting it thru Gallery tended to mean the tile/thumb remained. Scanner didn't or didn't very effectively detect this. Probable algorithm change in ICS. Now it sees the deletion immediately. Possibly implicated in keep safe not correctly interacting with the gallery/media scanner properly under ICS/JB.
I´ve the same problem.
After restarting the phone, the camera freezes for a while and regenerates the file, no matter how many media files are in the phone or sd card, it always growth to 431mg after restarting.
(I also find many lost files in the LOST.DIR (almost 2.300gb...many are dissapeared files that I forget about them!)
The .thumbdata files on my SGSIII take up ~4 GB worth of space. Already a quarter of my phones internal memory is being wasted. I wonder if this is a bug or "working as intended"? It makes me wonder how google can still justify the lack of an external microsd card slot on their nexus phones when there is so much space being mismanaged by the OS.
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strom87 said:
I had the same issue, but unfortunately your solution didn't help me. Initially I thought it did, but after a reboot and launching Camera app, it hanged and created the .thumbdata3 file once again.
I also tried messing up with databases using SQLite Editor, as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28466334&postcount=9, but that didn't help either.
I've done some more research and found a solution here: http://www.mobilephonetalk.com/show...in-memory-card&p=311954&viewfull=1#post311954. After I deleted the .thumbdata3 file, created a blank one with Root Explorer and removed write permission to it, the file stays at 0 bytes and Camera and Gallery apps still work fine.
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It's works with me!
that works
That works for me:
1. copy name of thumbdataX--x file
2. delete that file
3. create folder named the same as deleted file; reboot your device
4. look in folders named LOST.DIR (you can find it in the root directory of your internal memory and your SDcard) - huge temporary files may be left in these folders, so delete these files
New thumbdata file can't replace the folder and doesn't appears :victory:
until now the folder solution works :laugh:
Kyonex said:
That works for me:
1. copy name of thumbdataX--x file
2. delete that file
3. create folder named the same as deleted file; reboot your device
4. look in folders named LOST.DIR (you can find it in the root directory of your internal memory and your SDcard) - huge temporary files may be left in these folders, so delete these files
New thumbdata file can't replace the folder and doesn't appears :victory:
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It doesn't work, camera still overwrites the .thumbdataX--x folder. And as /mnt/sdacard is using FAT32, I also can't set file permission to 000 or use /dev/null symlink.

[Q] Photos on SD card?

Hi all. I'm new to the Asus Transformer, but a veteran of Android.
Having got over the shock of 'APP2SD' not letting me put my apps on the SD card, I have a related question.
Is it possible to get the TF to *automatically* put all the pics I take on the camera onto SD card (rather than store them on the device)?
Also, how do I make use of the McroSD card? If Apps can't be stored there, what can? Do 'settings' and cache data get stored on the card automatically?
I guess I'm trying to get my head round how I might best use the extra space offered on the card.
Thanks folks!
Steve
The idea is that 16GB is more than enough to hold your apps and pictures, everything else can go on the SD cards. I use the microsd for movies and music, the dock sd for backups and such. There's a workaround for Apps2SD and such, but honestly I wouldn't recommend it.
You can move your pictures manually from the internal storage to external ones using apps like ES File explorer that's free on the play store.
Thanks
Cheers - my thoughts exactly!
..and the Apps2SD workaround looks pretty scary - even to a well seasoned android user like me
Steve
Lethe6 said:
The idea is that 16GB is more than enough to hold your apps and pictures, everything else can go on the SD cards. I use the microsd for movies and music, the dock sd for backups and such. There's a workaround for Apps2SD and such, but honestly I wouldn't recommend it.
You can move your pictures manually from the internal storage to external ones using apps like ES File explorer that's free on the play store.
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I store media on the microSD.
Also, check out Camera ICS and FX Camera. Both of these allow pictures to be stored on the external memory.
Photos on SD
Thanks Frederuco
That's helpful. I tried the two apps and although they allow me to put pics on the SD, they seem to have lost the 16:9 widescreen option for the pics. Do you know of any that retain this?
Thanks
Steve
frederuco said:
I store media on the microSD.
Also, check out Camera ICS and FX Camera. Both of these allow pictures to be stored on the external memory.
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I think CameraX does both those things but I'm not 100% sure and it's not free so don't take my word for it, just a suggestion (someone once told me when you buy an app you have 15 minutes to get a refund - is that still true?). Lots of people complained about the lack of 16:9 and there's quite a few modified camera software that support it poping up for random devices here on xda... doesn't look like anyone did for this one though.
stevep said:
Thanks Frederuco
That's helpful. I tried the two apps and although they allow me to put pics on the SD, they seem to have lost the 16:9 widescreen option for the pics. Do you know of any that retain this?
Thanks
Steve
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I am not sure, I don't shoot 16:9 myself. If I want a 16:9 shot, I just crop it down. I rarely shoot with my TF because my phone has an 8 MP shooter, and I have a DSLR when I am serious about shooting.
Lethe6 said:
I think CameraX does both those things but I'm not 100% sure and it's not free so don't take my word for it, just a suggestion (someone once told me when you buy an app you have 15 minutes to get a refund - is that still true?). Lots of people complained about the lack of 16:9 and there's quite a few modified camera software that support it poping up for random devices here on xda... doesn't look like anyone did for this one though.
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Yes they still have a 15 minute return policy.
Photos on SD
Thanks
Yes, CameraX gives the option to save elsewhere, but if I choose SD Card, it still saves the pics to the main storage area. I think it might be something to do with the restrictions Asus places on saving SOME stuff to SD
Steve
frederuco said:
I am not sure, I don't shoot 16:9 myself. If I want a 16:9 shot, I just crop it down. I rarely shoot with my TF because my phone has an 8 MP shooter, and I have a DSLR when I am serious about shooting.
Yes they still have a 15 minute return policy.
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Camera and save photo in sd card

Hi everybody,
i have a problem with my Samsung S Advance with JellyMOD 4.0 and cocore kernel 6.0.
last day i lost all my camera photo, i don't know how, why...
fortunally i restore my camera photos with diskdigger. ( i use a lot of times the stock camera )
now my question is:
1) can i save my camera photos in phone memory and sd card memory in the same time? like a raid.
so when i get a new photo, this photo will be stored in 2 different place and the risk to lost all one more time is zero.
2) i tried also to select external micro sd in stock camera but in option or settings in camera, i can select only internal memory phone, i don't understand why, i tried to formatted micro sd, wipe cache, wipe dalvik without success, but in settings and memory i can see my micro sd empty and with a file manager i can explorer my sd, put files etc, so it works... strange
i hope that someone can help me, i won't use apps lik dropbox that store my personal photos in internet, i take care about my privacy.
Hello,
I suggest you create a backup of your pictures you take using your phone camera on your computer in case this happens again. Your camera photos should be located in the default DCIM folder. I understand how weary you are of using Dropbox, but I've found the service to be very safe for remotely storing your data. Currently, I'm using Google Drive to back up my things.
I recommend you give it a try.

Is there a possibility to change default folder location for Google Photos

3 years ago it was not possible i think, but maybe something was changed?
I got a lot of photos on my phone and everytime i'm moving them to SD card, Google Photos thinks that it need to be restored from the disk and in a moment I have them twice everywhere - on SD card and on phone memory. Confusing, don't You think? Every time i got my phone memory full of photos, even if my card is still empty (or also if i will have card full with duplicates).
Heres more - i need an high quality of theese photos, so i can't participate in Google Compression Program, or whatever gives me unlimited storage space, with lower quality. Not cool. But if i only could change the default folder to SD card... Maybe something bit more complicated, like with rooting and changing advanced setings?
I will be very grateful for any help.

Question Which location should I move my backup photos to?

I'm trying to move away from google photos and I have a ton of images from Google Takeout all sorted out. As such I need to know where do I put my photos in so that the default MIUI gallery app (and other apps of the like) will see them. Also is it possible to change photos saving location to an external SD card as my model is pretty susceptible to breaking and I need to make sure that my photos aren't truly gone.
Thanks in advance
The more technology becomes better/advanced/easier to use, the more people seem inept at using it.
Dude, put the photos on external sdcard in any damn folder you like. Android's mediastore will fully scan your storage on a let's say, a reboot and show the photos in any gallery app you can think of. Personally, I prefer F-Stop gallery app, since it has all I need to move/copy/rename/share or do anything with pictures or video files, and it does not depend on internal mediastore system. FStop gallery app even shows up as a file selector in default file explorer, if you use one.
Also make a full backup of the images to a disk in your PC. It's not that hard.
...and have an off-site backup obviously.
external sd or you can copy it to your pc
ok thanks for all the advice

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