Fast Charge + Belkin Cable = No charge? - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

Hey guys,
So got my S8+ and so far very happy. I'm having an issue of sorts, where if I use the original wall adaptor and a 3rd party cable such as Belkin, my phone says it's charging but the percentage stays the same. I've tested this with a brand new Belkin USB-C 1.8M cable and a USB micro cable using the included adaptor.
It was on 8% when I went to bed, and 8% when I first woke up. Changing the settings to disable fast charging made them work, but this seems like it could generate a lot of problems for people who don't even know about fast charging, especially as it's on by default.
Anyone else noticed this?

Sounds like a faulty cable.

peachpuff said:
Sounds like a faulty cable.
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I originally thought that, but surely can't be the case if I have two cables doing it? And if it charged fine without fast charging, is that still a possibility? As the only thing that changes is voltage I believe?

frogomas7 said:
I originally thought that, but surely can't be the case if I have two cables doing it? And if it charged fine without fast charging, is that still a possibility? As the only thing that changes is voltage I believe?
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Your belkin cables are ok BUT not compatible with fast charging. I THINK the phone must talk some way to charger to enable fast charging but your cables are not transmitting that info to the cgarger.
I advise you to buy original samsung spare cables.

calinormy said:
Your belkin cables are ok BUT not compatible with fast charging.
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I know this, but generally if the device detects that the cable is not compatible with fast charging, it falls back to normal charging. That's how it was with my S7 Edge.
I'm just imagining all the people reporting their phone as faulty when it's not.

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Good Car Charger?

Does anyone know of a good car charger? You know, the kind that plugs into your cigarette lighter socket.
I had one at one time but it died after only a week of usage.
I got this one and it works fine with a spare microusb cable. Best part is that I can now have two phones charging at once.
Thanks!
At only $8, that's a steal of a deal! Just bought it with free two-day shipping.
Should have checked Monoprice
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=103&categoryId=10321&subCategoryId=1032102
There used to be a twin plug one (I have it) but I can't find it now.
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trparky said:
Does anyone know of a good car charger? You know, the kind that plugs into your cigarette lighter socket.
I had one at one time but it died after only a week of usage.
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In my opinion... I have wasted alot of $ on trying to get away cheap on a car charger. By far the best one is the official verizon one. It charges to 100% from 0 in less than 2hrs and charges while I am navigating, wifi tethering and using bt at the same time. Well worth the extra cash.
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imnuts said:
I got this one and it works fine with a spare microusb cable. Best part is that I can now have two phones charging at once.
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I got a similar one, but it has one port meant for an ipad/tablet, which outputs 2A - that is helpful for when I am running car navigation and wifi hotspot at the same time. I also had to get a charging-only usb cable because regular cables would trigger usb storage mode on the phone.
ddh819 said:
I got a similar one, but it has one port meant for an ipad/tablet, which outputs 2A - that is helpful for when I am running car navigation and wifi hotspot at the same time. I also had to get a charging-only usb cable because regular cables would trigger usb storage mode on the phone.
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To bad the Charge won't draw more than ~0.8A... Also, it is the charger causing the phone to go to mass storage mode, not the cable. A microUSB cable is a microUSB cable, and if the cable says "charging only" they have the data pins shorted out (I believe that's what is done) and it really isn't fixing the root cause of the issue.
imnuts said:
I got this one and it works fine with a spare microusb cable. Best part is that I can now have two phones charging at once.
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nowai! That's the same car charger I use!
Only thing about it is, its a little short, so it may not fit perfectly in every car's cigarette lighter port. Won't work in my dad's car. :/
imnuts said:
To bad the Charge won't draw more than ~0.8A... Also, it is the charger causing the phone to go to mass storage mode, not the cable. A microUSB cable is a microUSB cable, and if the cable says "charging only" they have the data pins shorted out (I believe that's what is done) and it really isn't fixing the root cause of the issue.
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Did you ever try fastcharger script? It suppose to speed up your phone charger using USB.
mtmerrick said:
nowai! That's the same car charger I use!
Only thing about it is, its a little short, so it may not fit perfectly in every car's cigarette lighter port. Won't work in my dad's car. :/
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It is short, but works perfectly in my car. I don't even have to take it out to close my cigarette lighter, so it just stays there
buhohitr said:
Did you ever try fastcharger script? It suppose to speed up your phone charger using USB.
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The only way you could speed up charging would be to modify it via the kernel, or try to force load a module that does the same thing. Odds are the fastcharger script just gets the system to recognize USB charging as a wall charger. Either way, I wouldn't recommend using anything that says it'll make your phone charge faster unless there was SIGNIFICANT data to support the claim as well as evidence that it doesn't harm the hardware.
Charging the battery too fast is very dangerous too. I tried "supercharging" one of my batteries and it almost caught fire.
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I would suggest this one http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Rapid-Vehicle-Power-Adapter/dp/B002N8HG0Y/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329181948&sr=1-2 since it is made by moto and provides 1 ampere instead of .7 or .5 others provide.
trparky said:
Does anyone know of a good car charger? You know, the kind that plugs into your cigarette lighter socket.
I had one at one time but it died after only a week of usage.
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This is a great charger I have been using at it charges my battery quick too.. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000S5Q9CA/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1323055371&sr=8-1
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jager420 said:
This is a great charger I have been using at it charges my battery quick too.. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000S5Q9CA/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1323055371&sr=8-1
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I've been using this for the past 5 months and have been very happy with the charging speed. It seems faster than my standard wall charger.
wahanlato said:
To bad the Charge won't draw more than ~0.8A... Also, it is the charger causing the phone to go to mass storage mode, not the cable. A microUSB cable is a microUSB ee
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It could be the cable, but the odds are against that. The way to tell if it was the cable would be to try it in another AC charger to see what it does.
, I wouldn't recommend using anything that says it'll make your phone charge faster unless there was SIGNIFICANT data to support the claim as well as evidence that it doesn't harm the hardware.
I tried a 2.0 amp USB car charger and the factory cable.. .my battery got really hot and didn't charge at all.. .not sure why but the 1.0 amp charger seems to work the best...I have seen a 5.0amp at Walmart in the car department.. .but I don't feel like experimenting with that
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Samsung smartphones and Tablets charge in std mode (Charging USB) unless the two data wires are "shorted". (I have seen it done directly in a high speed charge only cable or in the Samsung chargers. Some say they use a resistor.) When the data pins are "shorted", Samsung switches to high speed charging. (Charging AC). I have been harassing a factory overseas for a dual car charger (2100mA) with one std. Port (iPad) and one Samsung port. It should be available soon.
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Hindle1225 said:
In my opinion... I have wasted alot of $ on trying to get away cheap on a car charger. By far the best one is the official verizon one. It charges to 100% from 0 in less than 2hrs and charges while I am navigating, wifi tethering and using bt at the same time. Well worth the extra cash.
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I haven't tried another car charger personally, but can vouch for the Verizon one. Always works for me and I just leave it plugged in the lighter outlet in my center console so whenever I need it, it's easy and quick to plug in the phone. Also has the scrunchy style cord to keep things neat. But at the same time, it makes it more difficult to use the phone while it's plugged in as it keeps wanting to pull back lol

[Q] Nexus 5 alternative chargers?

Hello,
I was wondering, can I use the old charging cables from an LG Optimus Black and Samsung Galaxy S2 to charge the Nexus 5?
I also have a car USB adapter and a spare USB-to-microUSB cable.
Can I use all sort of plugs/cables that match the connector size, or should I pay attention to any details regarding current/voltage?
I noticed the original PS for the Nexus 5 supplies more power than all others I have, but that may just mean that it would charge slower, which to me is not an issue.
I not only want to avoid doing any damage, but also of course shorten the battery life!!
Thanks
Gatz said:
Hello,
I was wondering, can I use the old charging cables from an LG Optimus Black and Samsung Galaxy S2 to charge the Nexus 5?
I also have a car USB adapter and a spare USB-to-microUSB cable.
Can I use all sort of plugs/cables that match the connector size, or should I pay attention to any details regarding current/voltage?
I noticed the original PS for the Nexus 5 supplies more power than all others I have, but that may just mean that it would charge slower, which to me is not an issue.
I not only want to avoid doing any damage, but also of course shorten the battery life!!
Thanks
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Any Micro USB cable will work with the phone and you shouldn't have a problem with voltage or anything like that dont worry bro
I notice nexus 5 is very picky on your USB cable if u want a fast charge. So of notice it going pretty slow. Try another cable
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Any USB charger should be 5V. You could in theory get a cheap charger that is off by some amount, but even then it would have to be significantly higher (5.5V+) to cause damage.
Current just affects the charging speed. A 0.5A charger is just going to charge your phone slowly. Your phone won't draw more than 1.2A though, so a 2A charger would be fine.
I was wondering about the USB cable as well, if I recall correctly, didn't the Nexus 4 had one less pin in the micro usb cable and Google only recommended using their USB cables?
I have a tone of Samsung micro USB cables from my numerous E4GT that I went through. I also noticed that the N5 charger brick says 1.2 on it so it's not your standard 1 amp charging brick.
raptir said:
Any USB charger should be 5V. You could in theory get a cheap charger that is off by some amount, but even then it would have to be significantly higher (5.5V+) to cause damage.
Current just affects the charging speed. A 0.5A charger is just going to charge your phone slowly. Your phone won't draw more than 1.2A though, so a 2A charger would be fine.
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Unfortunately the N5 seems to report most chargers as USB Mode chargers rather than AC Mode. I've noticed this with my Battery Packs, multiple car chargers, as well as multiple home chargers that are cheap. The N4 reports them all as AC chargers, but the N5 reports them as USB Chargers
naturefreak85 said:
Unfortunately the N5 seems to report most chargers as USB Mode chargers rather than AC Mode. I've noticed this with my Battery Packs, multiple car chargers, as well as multiple home chargers that are cheap. The N4 reports them all as AC chargers, but the N5 reports them as USB Chargers
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Silly question, but how do you tell the difference on your N5 from USB charge vs AC charge?
Not a silly question at all. Go into settings and check "Battery" when you get in there, It shows you xx% Charging ("Whatever you are charging through")
Raistlin1 said:
Silly question, but how do you tell the difference on your N5 from USB charge vs AC charge?
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Raistlin1 said:
Silly question, but how do you tell the difference on your N5 from USB charge vs AC charge?
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Goto Settings -> About -> Status -> Battery Status: Charging (USB) / AC
I've not used the bundled charger, just re-using my old one that is an AC Adapter with a USB cable. I'll check tonight to see if it's charging in USB or AC after all.

A510 won't charge

Since last night my a510 won't charge at all. There was a thunderstorm and a power cut and the charger was connected to the socket (a multi socket with several other items including a phone charger) but not to the tablet. When I plug it in now there's no indication that it is charging and the battery keeps going down. I tried with the phone charger also and a USB cable on the PC. While I know at best this would charge the tablet in 24 hours or so there was again not sign of charging at all.
Is it still most likely to be the Acer charger that's at fault or is there something else I could try?
pickarooney said:
Since last night my a510 won't charge at all. There was a thunderstorm and a power cut and the charger was connected to the socket (a multi socket with several other items including a phone charger) but not to the tablet. When I plug it in now there's no indication that it is charging and the battery keeps going down. I tried with the phone charger also and a USB cable on the PC. While I know at best this would charge the tablet in 24 hours or so there was again not sign of charging at all.
Is it still most likely to be the Acer charger that's at fault or is there something else I could try?
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edit: turns out it does trickle charge with a normal USB charger even if the charge light doesn't come on. Seems to be really hard to find a replacement for these though.
pickarooney said:
edit: turns out it does trickle charge with a normal USB charger even if the charge light doesn't come on. Seems to be really hard to find a replacement for these though.
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12V, 1.5 Ampere, I believe just about any electronics outlet should have something in stock. Original would be better, true. Get a surge-protected multisocket if your area is prone to bad weather.
Luther Blissett said:
12V, 1.5 Ampere, I believe just about any electronics outlet should have something in stock. Original would be better, true. Get a surge-protected multisocket if your area is prone to bad weather.
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The problem is the MicroUSB port on the tablet has an extra connector so I don't think it will be possible to use a normal microUSB cable with a 12V adapter.
pickarooney said:
The problem is the MicroUSB port on the tablet has an extra connector so I don't think it will be possible to use a normal microUSB cable with a 12V adapter.
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I tried with another adaptor which has the right shape and 12V output and is supposed to be compatible but not joy. It might be the tablet itself but it's weird if it just stopped working overnight.
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pickarooney said:
I tried with another adaptor which has the right shape and 12V output and is supposed to be compatible but not joy. It might be the tablet itself but it's weird if it just stopped working overnight.
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I had the same problem, after 2 month my charger was dead. I Contacted ACER send in the tabled and got a new charger in about 1 week.
You need 12 Volts for Charging 5 Volts want Charge your Battery fully.

Stock charger - charges slow and drops battery

Hello there,
I decided to open this thread as I've now had a bunch of issues with the stock charger that came with the device and it would be interesting to know if there's anyone else who's having this type of issues.
The exact issues that I've been having with the stock charger seems to be that the charger doesn't output enough of a amperage for the tablet to hold charge while in use, and even when it's not in use it takes almost 7-8 hours to charge from 50% up to 100%. It's as slow as if I would charge it from a regular USB port, if not, even slower and I don't really know why exactly this happens as it says that it's charging from AC adapter in settings.
To comfirm my issue was not related to the tablet itself, I used another charger that's rated at similar specs to the stock charger (2.1A) but with the same Micro-Usb cable that came with the tab. With that charger, it charged up from 50% extremely fast (around 1,5 hour) and I could even use the tablet while charging without any battery drops. So that comfirms two things, it's not related to the tablet or data cable but to the actual charger itself.
Anyone else that's been having this type of issues with the stock charger?
My tab needs max. about 3 hours to charge full and imo it's ok. Tried charging during Half Life2 gaming and can confirm that there's not a lot of charging going on, maybe 1or 2% in an hour. But that's ok for me, as long as it doesn't start to get emty while charging during gaming.
The charger is defective or don't bring enough power to the unit. I also get negative charge while playing high end games an also increase when i am, on Optimized mode. Many others has reported this situation on GeForce forums but nVidia is quiet about it.
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The charger is defective or don't bring enough power to the unit. I also get negative charge while playing high end games an also increase when i am, on Optimized mode. Many others has reported this situation on GeForce forums but nVidia is quiet about it.
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I get negative charge even when doing basic tasks like listen to music or watch a video with the stock charger, so I guess my charger is faulty. I've already reported the issue to Amazon and they gave me a 50GBP partial refund (80 USD!) because of the faulty charger without having to ship anything back.
I just find it odd that theres many people that have the issue and nvidia doesn't seem to do anything about it either!
GethPrime said:
I get negative charge even when doing basic tasks like listen to music or watch a video with the stock charger, so I guess my charger is faulty. I've already reported the issue to Amazon and they gave me a 50GBP partial refund (80 USD!) because of the faulty charger without having to ship anything back.
I just find it odd that theres many people that have the issue and nvidia doesn't seem to do anything about it either!
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If i were you, i'll check with another charger doing normal stuff, if you still get negative charger maybe it could be your battery itself.
GethPrime said:
I get negative charge even when doing basic tasks like listen to music or watch a video with the stock charger, so I guess my charger is faulty. I've already reported the issue to Amazon and they gave me a 50GBP partial refund (80 USD!) because of the faulty charger without having to ship anything back.
I just find it odd that theres many people that have the issue and nvidia doesn't seem to do anything about it either!
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My guess is that a faulty cable or the charger itself is causing D+ and D- to not be shorted together by the charger, resulting in the tablet thinking it's charging from a USB port instead of a dedicated charger.
Does device status report charging state as Charging (USB) instead of Charging (AC)?
I admit I never even unwrapped the stock charger, I've got one of those nice Anker 40W 5-port chargers along with a bunch of 24/28AWG MicroUSB cables from Monoprice.
Entropy512 said:
My guess is that a faulty cable or the charger itself is causing D+ and D- to not be shorted together by the charger, resulting in the tablet thinking it's charging from a USB port instead of a dedicated charger.
Does device status report charging state as Charging (USB) instead of Charging (AC)?
I admit I never even unwrapped the stock charger, I've got one of those nice Anker 40W 5-port chargers along with a bunch of 24/28AWG MicroUSB cables from Monoprice.
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The charger appears as AC in settings, so it should be charging faster than it does.
I'm using a charger similar to what you use right now, a Dodocool 4 port charger that works great! However, I'm using the stock cable.
First make sure you are using stock charger and cable.
If you see discharge during non intensive activities you may have a defective charger. Nvidia has rma'd the charger by itself for people.
I have the same issue but my charging time is a bit better 3-4 hours. But what is really annoying that it makes a lot of electrical noise. I have a lot of things that I charge, but I have never heard this so load earlier. Its coming from the adapter, I can cleary hear from 3m. Anybody has similar issue? I try to record the sound, and send to nvidia. Maybe they will react.
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Entropy512 said:
I admit I never even unwrapped the stock charger, I've got one of those nice Anker 40W 5-port chargers along with a bunch of 24/28AWG MicroUSB cables from Monoprice.
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I can confirm that this combo works a treat for my NST. I use it to simultaneously charge my G3, NST, N7 and some small LiPos. Fast charge.
Sorry to dig up this thread but I've had the same issue and i was WTF-ing like crazy until i switch the USB cable to a charging cable i got from a power bank... The charge time dropped from 6-7 hours to 2-3 hours. I'm not sure why, perhaps my cable is faulty or perhaps it was meant to charge like this, or perhaps it is supposed to be used to connect a controller only (both ends seem to have a controller icon on them)?
MrHollow said:
Sorry to dig up this thread but I've had the same issue and i was WTF-ing like crazy until i switch the USB cable to a charging cable i got from a power bank... The charge time dropped from 6-7 hours to 2-3 hours. I'm not sure why, perhaps my cable is faulty or perhaps it was meant to charge like this, or perhaps it is supposed to be used to connect a controller only (both ends seem to have a controller icon on them)?
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It's not due to the MicroUSB cable but due to a wallwart that's messing up the amperage I believe, as I've used the MicroUSB cable with other wallwarts and it charges normally then
GethPrime said:
It's not due to the MicroUSB cable but due to a wallwart that's messing up the amperage I believe, as I've used the MicroUSB cable with other wallwarts and it charges normally then
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You are correct. I charged the tablet at home 2 times this weekend and it's definitely an issue with the charger as it sometimes charges properly and sometimes it does not.
MrHollow said:
You are correct. I charged the tablet at home 2 times this weekend and it's definitely an issue with the charger as it sometimes charges properly and sometimes it does not.
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Get in touch with the retailer you got it from and ask for them to provide you with a proper charger, as a compensation
GethPrime said:
Get in touch with the retailer you got it from and ask for them to provide you with a proper charger, as a compensation
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A bit hard to do since i got it from amazon.com when i was in the US (back in EU now) and there's no point in returning the tablet just for a semi faulty charger.
MrHollow said:
A bit hard to do since i got it from amazon.com when i was in the US (back in EU now) and there's no point in returning the tablet just for a semi faulty charger.
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Contact amazon and tell them exactly about the issue, they'll compensate you for it probably. I got 50£ back from Amazon.co.uk for the broken charger, which is quite a bit of money.
GethPrime said:
Contact amazon and tell them exactly about the issue, they'll compensate you for it probably. I got 50£ back from Amazon.co.uk for the broken charger, which is quite a bit of money.
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Thanks for the tip, i'll give that a try
Well, same thing here. Just noticed it while using Skype. Battery dropped from 100% to 95% pretty quickly while charging.
I'm going to ask Amazon for another charger or compensation.
I have a 2.4A charger and still battery no good.
I lose around 2% per min of battery charge while idling with battery saving features on (2 cores shut off, CPU frequency set at 50% and Framerate locked at 30FPS) when ingame the battery drops 2-3 times faster. takes 2 hours to charge from 97% to 100% and 2 mins to lose that charge. I think I bought a Tablet that has a faulty battery as this is not acceptable. My tablet is unusable as the battery takes a couple of mins to lose 3% of charge and a couple of hours to regain the 3% charge only to lose that charge (and then some) when I try to use the tablet.

Fast charging issues

Its been over a month that ive had my 64g note 5. Just yesterday ive noticed that my so called fast charger wasnt charging my phone as it did in the earlier weeks of usage. No i havent exposed my phone ro any liquids and my charger port is covered by my phone case flaps. And no i havent altered my original oem charger cradle/ usb cord. Any one else experiencing the same problem?
Try plugging the charger directly into the wall outlet (If it wasn't already). If you have any alternate USB cables, try some of those. Otherwise it's the adapter or the phone.
Typically unless you notice the actual port having problems the USB cable is probably worn out. They are usually cheap and frequent bending on any portion of the cable will cause it to eventually break the wire inside.
This is one of the benefits of wireless charging. You won't have to worry about wear on the port or dealing with broken/worn USB cables.
Edit: What I did notice about a week ago was my Fast wired charger was cutting in/out or the phone would say it was only charging at standard speed. I had the adapter attached to an extension cord and decided to just run it directly to my power strip, which solved my problem.
An extension cord won't matter. The charger dongle either gets juice or doesn't...
I bought the Choetech fast wireless charger, working great. Heard there's been issues regarding Samsung brand. But the wireless charging works very well. I have the Choetech fast charger & a Spigen wireless dock, both flawless not cutouts!
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For me the issue seems to be the lock screen. When on the lock screen and I plug the charger in I usually do not get fast charge. But if I first log on then it usually will fast charge.
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KruseLudsMobile said:
An extension cord won't matter. The charger dongle either gets juice or doesn't...
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Juice directly from an outlet will always be more than juice coming from an extension cord (especially if its a cheap one) connected to a powerstrip connected to an outlet. If you have ever cut open an extension cord, you'd see why. Below all that plastic are a few silky copper threads which can in no way possible convey the amount of electricity that the thick wires behind your outlet can.
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Yes but the dongle is vastly reducing what goes to the phone anyway
_whitebeans said:
Its been over a month that ive had my 64g note 5. Just yesterday ive noticed that my so called fast charger wasnt charging my phone as it did in the earlier weeks of usage. No i havent exposed my phone ro any liquids and my charger port is covered by my phone case flaps. And no i havent altered my original oem charger cradle/ usb cord. Any one else experiencing the same problem?
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Issues with the stock chargers for a lot of people on the note 5. Mine wouldn't fast charge unless plugged and unplugged a bunch. Not good for the port. Got a verizon red tip rapid charger like a few other coworkers got and it fast charges everytime I plug it in. No matter extension or not.. Or 20% or 90%. [emoji4]
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