Future dev work - Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion

not sure where to post this or anything, but im a dev in the making and i have contributed some works for the galaxy s6 sprint version with roms working and root without knox tripping, presently doing galaxy s7 active ROM work and have success of roms from SD variants working on the active with minimal issues. my new adventure is the s8 plius. im pretty familiar with android and am working on getting android OS certified and would love to get my hands on the g955f model so i can help with any future rom, kernel support. im presently $500 away from reaching this goal. the device itself would make for a great dev unit. not sure if this is the place to post this or not, if not admin, please move to the correct page. any help on this would be much appreciated. cant promise if i got one id work on it night a day every day, but id do most evenings when im not swaped from job hunting.

Not yet clear whether the S8 Exynos variant can be bootloader unlocked. Speculation is this model year, no. But still needs to be confirmed.

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[Q] Where are all the roms???

I've been using this phone since it first came out on T-Mobile. I've been pretty excited about it but the lack of Roms makes me feel like I should of just brought the note 4. I mean there's a bunch of Roms for that. Im the type that changes my ROM every week to keep it feeling new. We don't have cm12 yet or nothing and I get pretty anxious waiting. I check everyday expecting something to be added and everyday I get disappointed. I'm thinking about trading my edge for a note 4 in a sec but I really don't want to. Does anyone know if there is going to be more Roms anytime soon or what?
You could. .. develop one
ichardy said:
I've been using this phone since it first came out on T-Mobile. I've been pretty excited about it but the lack of Roms makes me feel like I should of just brought the note 4. I mean there's a bunch of Roms for that. Im the type that changes my ROM every week to keep it feeling new. We don't have cm12 yet or nothing and I get pretty anxious waiting. I check everyday expecting something to be added and everyday I get disappointed. I'm thinking about trading my edge for a note 4 in a sec but I really don't want to. Does anyone know if there is going to be more Roms anytime soon or what?
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First, in the first month the Note 4 sold 4.5 million units; Samsung says they are not even going to make 1 million units for the Note Edge.
The Note Edge is something new, and not meant for everybody; not to mention about $100 more than the Note 4. So a much smaller market is going to purchase the Edge (smaller market = smaller development).
Not to mention all development for the Edge and I would also guess the Note 4 is pretty much at a standstill until Andriod 5.0 (lollipop) is released on are phone, as there is no point starting a new ROM when you know you will have to build one from scratch in about a month.
I have a white T-Mobile Note 4 I will gladly trade you for if you feel the Note Edge is not for you. But I will tell you right now, there will not be nearly the development for the Note Edge as the Note 4. Just be thankful you have a T-mobile Note Edge, as some of the other providers have nothing for development so far.
This is just an ignorant post. You want Roms? Develop them yourself and then complain about why there isn't a plethora of Roms. If you wanted unlimited amount of Roms to try out I'm sorry to inform you that you chose the wrong device. It's been mentioned before that the quantity of this phone even produced doesn't even come close to how many note 4 was sold. Of course you will not see as much development especially on a niche device like this. aosp Roms would obviously limit you use of the edge so it would be pointless imo to flash something like CM rom. If you just want a debloated deodexed rom you can achieve most of it through root and titanium backup if you're savvy enough. 5.0 isn't released for the edge or the note 4 while CM has moved onto 5.0. Who in their right mind would develop a 4.4.4 rom a month presumably before 5.0 comes out and they gotta rebuild all from scratch again, you? If you don't think the edge is not for you sell or trade it to someone who would actually appreciate it or desires it because clearly I don't ever see someone like you being able to be satisfied with a phone like this. Maybe some research before heading out to buy a $1000 device could've done you some good too. When I got mine I saw that the 915S was the only one with someone even attempting to create a custom kernel and decided that it would see the most amount of development and snagged one. UpInTheAir has been providing great development for my device with both rom and kernel. We worked very hard putting lots of hours in trying to test so that he could achieve a stable build. With 1 post since joining in 2010 how have you contributed to the development community other than complaining that there's not enough Roms for you to flash and try.
ichardy said:
I've been using this phone since it first came out on T-Mobile. I've been pretty excited about it but the lack of Roms makes me feel like I should of just brought the note 4. I mean there's a bunch of Roms for that. Im the type that changes my ROM every week to keep it feeling new. We don't have cm12 yet or nothing and I get pretty anxious waiting. I check everyday expecting something to be added and everyday I get disappointed. I'm thinking about trading my edge for a note 4 in a sec but I really don't want to. Does anyone know if there is going to be more Roms anytime soon or what?
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tospace2006 said:
This is just an ignorant post. You want Roms? Develop them yourself and then complain about why there isn't a plethora of Roms. If you wanted unlimited amount of Roms to try out I'm sorry to inform you that you chose the wrong device. It's been mentioned before that the quantity of this phone even produced doesn't even come close to how many note 4 was sold. Of course you will not see as much development especially on a niche device like this. aosp Roms would obviously limit you use of the edge so it would be pointless imo to flash something like CM rom. If you just want a debloated deodexed rom you can achieve most of it through root and titanium backup if you're savvy enough. 5.0 isn't released for the edge or the note 4 while CM has moved onto 5.0. Who in their right mind would develop a 4.4.4 rom a month presumably before 5.0 comes out and they gotta rebuild all from scratch again, you? If you don't think the edge is not for you sell or trade it to someone who would actually appreciate it or desires it because clearly I don't ever see someone like you being able to be satisfied with a phone like this. Maybe some research before heading out to buy a $1000 device could've done you some good too. When I got mine I saw that the 915S was the only one with someone even attempting to create a custom kernel and decided that it would see the most amount of development and snagged one. UpInTheAir has been providing great development for my device with both rom and kernel. We worked very hard putting lots of hours in trying to test so that he could achieve a stable build. With 1 post since joining in 2010 how have you contributed to the development community other than complaining that there's not enough Roms for you to flash and try.
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Well dam I guess I need to learn to develop then.
Be grateful your on t mobile of all the edge development we have the most.

Lollipop port on to the SM-N915T - T-Mobile Note Edge

I was wondering if there are any developers who could assist me in a porting Lollipop to the Tmobile note edge. Tmobile is taking far to long and since there are other variants that already have it with almost identical hardware, it wouldn't be to difficult. I would even be glad to donate a little for your assistance. Anyway if anyone other people support this, please chime in. Please hit me up devs! Thanks!
I agree
PLEASE DEVS. ...there is like 3 custom roms for the tmobile note edge. ..and no lollipop update. .tmobile is taking very long to release it to the edge. ..I love my edge but considered switching to note 4 just bcuz there is very little development for the tmobile note edge. ..will pay if I have to. ..
+1 915T Development
100% behind this! Got my Edge last week and I'm absolutely loving it . But coming from an M7 that had a million Roms and firmware updates it's sad to see so little being done for this awesome phone .
and the official lollipop is here. for tmo...
Better late than never, but I was happy to see 5.01 on SAMMOBILE this morning. Installing as we speak. But I am going to miss hypderdrive rom until he updates his rom with Lollipop.

Difference between snap and exynos version

I'm interested in buying this phone, and I've already noticed that exynos version is more supported by devs here and in overall it's better. But my problem is, what is the codenumber of the exynos version, not sure if I call it properly but I'm talking about this SM - T310 thing for example. I just couldn't find it anywhere... And my question is which one is for which phone, or if it's country specified, then can someone tell me how can I get the better version?
Sm-g930f is international, sm-g930w8 is canadian exynos.
Sm-g930a 930t 930v 930s 930u is att/tmo/verizon/sprint/carrier unlocked snapdragon.
Check out B & H Photo Video:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1225377-REG/samsung_sm_g930_32gb_blk_galaxy_s7_g930_32gb.html
I bought my exynos S7 from them. Very reputable, fast delivery and excellent price. I would not recommend getting the snapdragon. The root for it is very buggy and there is no support from developers because the bootloader is locked and will likely never be unlocked. I have my S7 rooted with VoLTE, WiFi calling and unlimited tether. To answer your question, it's the SM-G930F. The G935F is the S7 Edge.
peachpuff said:
Sm-g930f is international, sm-g930w8 is canadian exynos.
Sm-g930a 930t 930v 930s 930u is att/tmo/verizon/sprint/carrier unlocked snapdragon.
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Finally someone that could tell that in a normal way, thanks
SystematiQ said:
Check out B & H Photo Video:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1225377-REG/samsung_sm_g930_32gb_blk_galaxy_s7_g930_32gb.html
I bought my exynos S7 from them. Very reputable, fast delivery and excellent price. I would not recommend getting the snapdragon. The root for it is very buggy and there is no support from developers because the bootloader is locked and will likely never be unlocked. I have my S7 rooted with VoLTE, WiFi calling and unlimited tether. To answer your question, it's the SM-G930F. The G935F is the S7 Edge.
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The thing for me is that I live outside the US so when all the taxes and duties that are coming together make the price $300 higher, and yeah i just noticed that Samsung with the snapdragon one is just lonely and noone cares about him heh Thanks a lot too
I own the exynos and it has root and comes with an unlocked bootloader but the roms for the exynos aren't that great because all of the devs are bored with with exynos and their sh*t because it's very hard to develop things for exynos Samsung are very closed with the code, and the snapdragon comes with a locked bootloader, but if it ever does get unlocked the Roms for it will be very nice and not just a modified TouchWiz. If you plan on instantly rooting then get the exynos, but there aren't any stable AOSP Roms for it and probably never will.
userName'dYa said:
I own the exynos and it has root and comes with an unlocked bootloader but the roms for the exynos aren't that great because all of the devs are bored with with exynos and their sh*t because it's very hard to develop things for exynos Samsung are very closed with the code, and the snapdragon comes with a locked bootloader, but if it ever does get unlocked the Roms for it will be very nice and not just a modified TouchWiz. If you plan on instantly rooting then get the exynos, but there aren't any stable AOSP Roms for it and probably never will.
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The exynos source code was released not long ago. So there will be support. Superman ROM is awesome and very stable. Also, I read somewhere that Lineage OS is in the works for S7.
SystematiQ said:
The exynos source code was released not long ago. So there will be support. Superman ROM is awesome and very stable. Also, I read somewhere that Lineage OS is in the works for S7.
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Works and being stable-very different things.
If you want more info read this https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
And a quote from the linked post: "There’s no future. Almost all devs have stopped working on exynos devices a long time ago. Most of them even stopped to work on samsung devices in general.
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They simply don’t care about the community. All they care about is $$$"
Most of the devs only care about money NOT ALL. Some are creating Roms for fun tho
userName'dYa said:
Works and being stable-very different things.
If you want more info read this https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
And a quote from the linked post: "There’s no future. Almost all devs have stopped working on exynos devices a long time ago. Most of them even stopped to work on samsung devices in general.
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They simply don’t care about the community. All they care about is $$$"
Most of the devs only care about money NOT ALL. Some are creating Roms for fun tho
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I respectfully disagree Sir. You are correct that there has been very little support as far as roms go, however that is due to Samsung holding onto the source for the kernel. It has just been released within the last couple months. I guess is comes down to opinion partially. I love the S7 because it's hardware is superior to that of other devices and TouchWiz is actually very nice imho. Also, I can't live without SD card. >_< I would buy a OnePlus or Pixel if they had SD card.
SystematiQ said:
I respectfully disagree Sir. You are correct that there has been very little support as far as roms go, however that is due to Samsung holding onto the source for the kernel. It has just been released within the last couple months. I guess is comes down to opinion partially. I love the S7 because it's hardware is superior to that of other devices and TouchWiz is actually very nice imho. Also, I can't live without SD card. >_< I would buy a OnePlus or Pixel if they had SD card.
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I guess that the fact that I hate TouchWiz makes me disagree and there are no good stable Roms and like you said there is Lineage and also there's Resurucction Remix but last time I checked out the Ressurction Remix even the camera doesn't work and Lineage is also before even an alpha stage from what I know the rom doesn't even have download links yet.
Exynos is proven to be a better chip over snapdragon

S6 or S7?

Hi,
I am looking into buying a S6 or S7 for my wife. I know the S7 is the newer version (duh) but future proofing also means having access to newer Android Versions. Afaik nougat is the last android update the S6 will receive while I am guessing that the S7 will also get Android O. That would leave me with installing a custom rom (on the S6) when O comes out. I tried having a look at the forums but I am not sure: Is it correct to say that the S7 is the better phone when it comes to custom roms?
Thanks for the help!
I have an S6 and Exynos = no custom/Aosp roms. I know they are very early stages of Aosp because Exynos will not release the source code. So getting a working version of Android O before it is officially released for S6 is a lot of work to get stable. I cant see that happening.
I have ordered my S7 but dont have any experience at the moment with it. I have seen AOSP on the S7 so that means there is a lot of development going on. Which for me is key when buying a new phone. Exchange, contribute, share and improve info.
So short answer is YES
LineageOS is out for both phones, but i'll bet some stuff still doesn't work. I would opt for the s7 mainly due to the bigger battery.

S9/S9+ slow development.

As of now, there is less new work going on here then on my S7e.
My guess is that maybe these phones have not been popular enough (after the S7's, S8's and N8's plus other brands) to attract many of the developers here yet. Except for the AOSP group, we have only one custom ROM and a few pretty much stock ones. The Echoe group have also passed over the S9's (but set up a nice oreo for the S7's).
The efforts of the few developers here are greatly appreciated, but am hoping more will eventually show up.
I also really miss duelboot here. I would have one of the AOSP ROMs up if it was here. Think Chen bought a 965O, so am hoping the others over there will eventually make it Oreo compatible.
Update - the one custom rom just lost its support. Beginning to regret getting this phone. Thinking of selling it and going back to my s7.
i wish i had a g9650 lol.. im stuck with a g965u

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