I am quite interested how the independent development of this device is gonna turn and if anyone is in the mood on forgetting their fear of spoiler, what are ideas on hand on how can a custom ROM can make use of the secondary screen or it doesn't look good according to Samsung's SDK?
(Did not have the chance on see the SDK myself and probably will not have the time until further notice) and quite frankly I might sit as an spectator rather than helping in development for this one.
99% this will be the next device for which i will develop both a rom and a kernel..
I have no plans so there will be no spoilers here the only plan i have is to mod the _______ out of the secondary screen...
Im waiting for the 1st system dump to see what we have to play with here..
and of course for the samsung official source...
I dont know why people look down on this device..
Its like the DISAPPOINTING Note 4 but with something new for once..
We will see..
Im glad to see some interest on this device..
great news
friedrich420 said:
99% this will be the next device for which i will develop both a rom and a kernel..
I have no plans so there will be no spoilers here the only plan i have is to mod the _______ out of the secondary screen...
Im waiting for the 1st system dump to see what we have to play with here..
and of course for the samsung official source...
I dont know why people look down on this device..
Its like the DISAPPOINTING Note 4 but with something new for once..
We will see..
Im glad to see some interest on this device..
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That is very encouraging. I agree with you. You can get a note 4, or a note 4 plus a cool new feature. Why not the edge?
I am not a developer at all, but I cannot live with stock roms for the sake of me! I am 99% sure to be getting a Note Edge, and I am so happy to see there is a dev already onboard with it!
My question is... this is obviously touchwiz... but do you see the "Edge" screen ever being implemented in custom AOSP roms fot the Note Edge in the future? Or would flashing AOSP make that Edge screen completely black...?
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I am not a developer at all, but I cannot live with stock roms for the sake of me! I am 99% sure to be getting a Note Edge, and I am so happy to see there is a dev already onboard with it!
My question is... this is obviously touchwiz... but do you see the "Edge" screen ever being implemented in custom AOSP roms fot the Note Edge in the future? Or would flashing AOSP make that Edge screen completely black...?
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I dont see why that would be impossible. Def not easy but there are some great minds out there
But my experience says that first you will see a few TW kernels before an AOSP one.. And usually the 1st AOSP takes a while.. And it needs a few releases before it can be a daily driver..
And im sorry i may disappoint you my man but i build roms and kernels for TW.. I know.. we all have our flaws
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I dont see why that would be impossible. Def not easy but there are some great minds out there
But my experience says that first you will see a few TW kernels before an AOSP one.. And usually the 1st AOSP takes a while.. And it needs a few releases before it can be a daily driver..
And im sorry i may disappoint you my man but i build roms and kernels for TW.. I know.. we all have our flaws
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hahha, don't worry, you do your thing! I have a complicated relationship with Samsung... I love their galaxy line, yet hate TouchWiz lol. But just like any new galaxy device, TW roms are always up first, and AOSP a few months later. As long as every single samsung bloatware can be removed from TW and xposed framework is running, I'm satisfied lol
All I'll NEED is root for exposed, and very debloated. And I'll be happy.
Maybe a blue/black theme.
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hahha, don't worry, you do your thing! I have a complicated relationship with Samsung... I love their galaxy line, yet hate TouchWiz lol. But just like any new galaxy device, TW roms are always up first, and AOSP a few months later. As long as every single samsung bloatware can be removed from TW and xposed framework is running, I'm satisfied lol
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All I'll NEED is root for exposed, and very debloated. And I'll be happy.
Maybe a blue/black theme.
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You will definitely have those
I LOVE this thread!! Your requests are the best because they are definitely doable
Ill make an aroma to give the option for what bloat you will want to install or not install. If aroma causes us any issues i can always make a "debloater" (its a simple script that you flash and remove the bloat you want)
Something that worries me though you guys.. Is is gonna be only in a few markets?? I read that initially it maybe only in Asian Markets
Well I'm not sure where you are, but I'm in the US.
It will be coming for sure to all 4 major carriers here.
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Well I'm not sure where you are, but I'm in the US.
It will be coming for sure to all 4 major carriers here.
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Im in the "Land of Whatever" or "Banana Republic" if you prefer
Cyprus my man...
Thats encouraging! If all 4 carriers will have it then i think it will come in Europe as well...
when it will be available in america?
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Something that worries me though you guys.. Is is gonna be only in a few markets?? I read that initially it maybe only in Asian Markets
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I know the Note 4 is coming everywhere, but you are right... the Note Edge is restricted to a limited market. Usually, that means the phone will be available in all countries but at full price. Anyways, we should all expect a "premium" price for this device, Samsung said so themselves, already trying to save up, lol. I'm in Canada, I doubt it will come here, but I'm pretty confident I'll be able to import it somehow. With all the current technology it has, it should have multiple LTE radios in it.
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I LOVE this thread!! Your requests are the best because they are definitely doable (
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hahaha, funny, you know what I LOVE? The fact you want to try to mod the _______ out of the secondary screen! :highfive:
My main concern is which Provider will I go with? I have both VZW and Sprint and the note 3 was dominated by Sprint Developers but yet some previous High end devices dominated by VZW devs..I obviously want to go with where it's hot.
I know for sure it will be available mid October on AT&T in the U.S. and will be available with the edge upgrade.
This Note 3 and I have rocked on together for the past year with Hyperdrive ROM. But this new device just screams "Buy me and impress everyone!"
I have money banked for the Note Edge, full retail. But I've seen price estimates as high as USD $1300! How on EARTH I can mentally justify paying half again for a phone's "coolness" isn't something I've completely reconciled yet... but if I do get the Edge, I will likely have it for at least two or three years. The Darling Bride will have a cow - I mean, she will give live birth to a bovine creature - if she finds out I just plunked down that much payola for a PHONE. This had better be really, really good, because it's going to be me and that phone in the doghouse until around Christmas!
It doesn't help that she watched the Unpacked event and wants her own Note 4. That's putting a hurt in the wallet!
Back on topic: will the developer community embrace this "limited availability" device, or concentrate on the Note 4? I want the Edge, but I REALLY want a rooted and ROMmed Edge.
It seems that the Edge has the same functionality as the Note 4... with the added functionality of the edge screen. So a ROM for the Note 4 should easily be ported over to the Edge with just a few extra lines of code. One would think.
So I really, really hope that you fine developers find a root exploit, a suitable bootstrap method, and start cranking out ROMs for the Edge. That would be the icing on the cake, baby!
I'm really interested in the Note 4 Edge but from what I've read about the device is that it's extremely annoying to hold and use with one hand. You keep activating the side screen when trying to hold the device tight enough for it not to fall. I can't see any way custom software would get around that issue.
On the other hand, I wish Samsung kept up with their pattern and made it a 5.9" device, even if just for the sake of having a bigger battery. A 20 mAh increase is practically no increase, especially when you're driving that many more pixels. I'm worried about battery life on this thing.
The real question since this device is certain to hit all four major US Carriers. Which carriers will have the bootloader locked down to damn near uselessness. I am willing to bet AT&T and Verizon will have them locked down to hell (For sure AT&T I mean the whole S line starting with the S4 are still locked down as in no custom kernels which is annoying to say the least).
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The real question since this device is certain to hit all four major US Carriers. Which carriers will have the bootloader locked down to damn near uselessness. I am willing to bet AT&T and Verizon will have them locked down to hell (For sure AT&T I mean the whole S line starting with the S4 are still locked down as in no custom kernels which is annoying to say the least).
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OH I can assure you that Verizon's bootloader will be locked down and it'll be bloated to smithereens! Now that Hashcode has stopped all development for Safestrap, I'm really hoping and praying that another developer will take the torch, so to speak, and create a bootstrapper for the Note 4 & Note Edge. Once we have a root exploit and a bootstrap, let the ROMming begin!
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OH I can assure you that Verizon's bootloader will be locked down and it'll be bloated to smithereens! Now that Hashcode has stopped all development for Safestrap, I'm really hoping and praying that another developer will take the torch, so to speak, and create a bootstrapper for the Note 4 & Note Edge. Once we have a root exploit and a bootstrap, let the ROMming begin!
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That's why I'm leaning towards the Sprint one. It seems like they don't do a lot of "lockdowns" on their devices..
I've been using this phone since it first came out on T-Mobile. I've been pretty excited about it but the lack of Roms makes me feel like I should of just brought the note 4. I mean there's a bunch of Roms for that. Im the type that changes my ROM every week to keep it feeling new. We don't have cm12 yet or nothing and I get pretty anxious waiting. I check everyday expecting something to be added and everyday I get disappointed. I'm thinking about trading my edge for a note 4 in a sec but I really don't want to. Does anyone know if there is going to be more Roms anytime soon or what?
You could. .. develop one
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I've been using this phone since it first came out on T-Mobile. I've been pretty excited about it but the lack of Roms makes me feel like I should of just brought the note 4. I mean there's a bunch of Roms for that. Im the type that changes my ROM every week to keep it feeling new. We don't have cm12 yet or nothing and I get pretty anxious waiting. I check everyday expecting something to be added and everyday I get disappointed. I'm thinking about trading my edge for a note 4 in a sec but I really don't want to. Does anyone know if there is going to be more Roms anytime soon or what?
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First, in the first month the Note 4 sold 4.5 million units; Samsung says they are not even going to make 1 million units for the Note Edge.
The Note Edge is something new, and not meant for everybody; not to mention about $100 more than the Note 4. So a much smaller market is going to purchase the Edge (smaller market = smaller development).
Not to mention all development for the Edge and I would also guess the Note 4 is pretty much at a standstill until Andriod 5.0 (lollipop) is released on are phone, as there is no point starting a new ROM when you know you will have to build one from scratch in about a month.
I have a white T-Mobile Note 4 I will gladly trade you for if you feel the Note Edge is not for you. But I will tell you right now, there will not be nearly the development for the Note Edge as the Note 4. Just be thankful you have a T-mobile Note Edge, as some of the other providers have nothing for development so far.
This is just an ignorant post. You want Roms? Develop them yourself and then complain about why there isn't a plethora of Roms. If you wanted unlimited amount of Roms to try out I'm sorry to inform you that you chose the wrong device. It's been mentioned before that the quantity of this phone even produced doesn't even come close to how many note 4 was sold. Of course you will not see as much development especially on a niche device like this. aosp Roms would obviously limit you use of the edge so it would be pointless imo to flash something like CM rom. If you just want a debloated deodexed rom you can achieve most of it through root and titanium backup if you're savvy enough. 5.0 isn't released for the edge or the note 4 while CM has moved onto 5.0. Who in their right mind would develop a 4.4.4 rom a month presumably before 5.0 comes out and they gotta rebuild all from scratch again, you? If you don't think the edge is not for you sell or trade it to someone who would actually appreciate it or desires it because clearly I don't ever see someone like you being able to be satisfied with a phone like this. Maybe some research before heading out to buy a $1000 device could've done you some good too. When I got mine I saw that the 915S was the only one with someone even attempting to create a custom kernel and decided that it would see the most amount of development and snagged one. UpInTheAir has been providing great development for my device with both rom and kernel. We worked very hard putting lots of hours in trying to test so that he could achieve a stable build. With 1 post since joining in 2010 how have you contributed to the development community other than complaining that there's not enough Roms for you to flash and try.
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I've been using this phone since it first came out on T-Mobile. I've been pretty excited about it but the lack of Roms makes me feel like I should of just brought the note 4. I mean there's a bunch of Roms for that. Im the type that changes my ROM every week to keep it feeling new. We don't have cm12 yet or nothing and I get pretty anxious waiting. I check everyday expecting something to be added and everyday I get disappointed. I'm thinking about trading my edge for a note 4 in a sec but I really don't want to. Does anyone know if there is going to be more Roms anytime soon or what?
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This is just an ignorant post. You want Roms? Develop them yourself and then complain about why there isn't a plethora of Roms. If you wanted unlimited amount of Roms to try out I'm sorry to inform you that you chose the wrong device. It's been mentioned before that the quantity of this phone even produced doesn't even come close to how many note 4 was sold. Of course you will not see as much development especially on a niche device like this. aosp Roms would obviously limit you use of the edge so it would be pointless imo to flash something like CM rom. If you just want a debloated deodexed rom you can achieve most of it through root and titanium backup if you're savvy enough. 5.0 isn't released for the edge or the note 4 while CM has moved onto 5.0. Who in their right mind would develop a 4.4.4 rom a month presumably before 5.0 comes out and they gotta rebuild all from scratch again, you? If you don't think the edge is not for you sell or trade it to someone who would actually appreciate it or desires it because clearly I don't ever see someone like you being able to be satisfied with a phone like this. Maybe some research before heading out to buy a $1000 device could've done you some good too. When I got mine I saw that the 915S was the only one with someone even attempting to create a custom kernel and decided that it would see the most amount of development and snagged one. UpInTheAir has been providing great development for my device with both rom and kernel. We worked very hard putting lots of hours in trying to test so that he could achieve a stable build. With 1 post since joining in 2010 how have you contributed to the development community other than complaining that there's not enough Roms for you to flash and try.
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Well dam I guess I need to learn to develop then.
Be grateful your on t mobile of all the edge development we have the most.
Hey guys,
Judging by how android M was provided to the S6, should we expect the same amount of time till S7 gets N (eg-mid next year) or could we possibly expect android N around or soon after when the Note 7 gets it ?
Please dont troll this thread, not interested in that if you dont like my questions just move along.
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tixoo said:
Hey guys,
Judging by how android M was provided to the S6, should we expect the same amount of time till S7 gets N (eg-mid next year) or could we possibly expect android N around or soon after when the Note 7 gets it ?
Please dont troll this thread, not interested in that if you dont like my questions just move along.
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Samsung said the Note 7 will get Android 7 in 3 months. I think our phonnes should get the official 7.0 fimware in early 2017. Luckily the N7's hardware is almost the same as the S7's hardware. So porting the N7 firmware shouldn't be impossible.
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Samsung said the Note 7 will get Android 7 in 3 months. I think our phonnes should get the official 7.0 fimware in early 2017. Luckily the N7's hardware is almost the same as the S7's hardware. So porting the N7 firmware shouldn't be impossible.
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exactly what im hoping for but ... but still dont know if samsung will do it before the s8 :/
US AT&T announced that the s7 is getting the update soon, but without a dateyet.
As of now, there is less new work going on here then on my S7e.
My guess is that maybe these phones have not been popular enough (after the S7's, S8's and N8's plus other brands) to attract many of the developers here yet. Except for the AOSP group, we have only one custom ROM and a few pretty much stock ones. The Echoe group have also passed over the S9's (but set up a nice oreo for the S7's).
The efforts of the few developers here are greatly appreciated, but am hoping more will eventually show up.
I also really miss duelboot here. I would have one of the AOSP ROMs up if it was here. Think Chen bought a 965O, so am hoping the others over there will eventually make it Oreo compatible.
Update - the one custom rom just lost its support. Beginning to regret getting this phone. Thinking of selling it and going back to my s7.
i wish i had a g9650 lol.. im stuck with a g965u