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After days of waiting, we finally have another detailed camera review. While the article does not go into pixel peeping depth, it gives a good idea of how the camera perform against its predecessor. It seems like the s7 handles contrasts and low light( of course) much better.
Hopefully will bring peace to people worried about S7 camera underperforming...
Interesting and thanks for the link. Seems to be very competent camera.
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Thanks for the link. I think I'm convinced the S7 is better in low light. The concern is whether it's taken a sacrifice in brighter conditions - would be good to see some daylight photos from people getting their phones this week
This really should quieten down the people claiming the S6 has a better camera, and that Samsung have taken a step backwards. The outdoor contrast and street at night pictures in particular were hilariously one-sided.
In my opinion S6 has the advantage , In day time, S6 photos is obvious better than s7 with more vivid colors. During sunset and night , the photos is almost identical with only iexception the night street scene ,which s7 was better.
I would like to see a real life comporison too , because most of us , we usually take photos of our friends and not static buildings in the night.
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In my opinion S6 has the advantage , In day time, S6 photos is obvious better than s7 with more vivid colors. During sunset and night , the photos is almost identical with only iexception the night street scene ,which s7 was better.
I would like to see a real life comporison too , because most of us , we usually take photos of our friends and not static buildings in the night.
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One of us may need to calibrate our displays, because the S7 has a clear advantage to me. I notice a lot of the reds on the S6 seem to wash out and look pink (like the pic looking up the steps with the red box on the side).
I dunno, I think I'd rather go with the S6 and it's 4 megapixel advantage.
You need to read up on why that isn't necessarily an advantage when it comes to quality of image.
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You need to read up on why that isn't necessarily an advantage when it comes to quality of image.
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Don't worry, I did that many moons ago.
For what mobile phone cameras are used for, the difference between 16mpx and 12 mpx is nothing. That extra 4pmx has no practical advantage bar the aspect ratio. I'd sooner have an increase in quality and a reduction in size.
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In my opinion S6 has the advantage , In day time, S6 photos is obvious better than s7 with more vivid colors. During sunset and night , the photos is almost identical with only iexception the night street scene ,which s7 was better.
I would like to see a real life comporison too , because most of us , we usually take photos of our friends and not static buildings in the night.
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Obviously you didn't bother reading the author's notes. In almost all cases they noted that the S7 was producing more accurate colors, and the S6 was producing tones that were not true to what the scene actually looked like.
If your idea of a superior camera is one which produces overly saturated images at the expense of color accuracy (similar to the issue samsung's older AMOLED displays had), then stick with the S6.
For the rest of us, accuracy is the sign of a better camera. Saturation can easily be adjusted to taste in post (especially with the S7's raw support). It's much harder to fix incorrect colors after the fact going off of memory. The S6 also struggled in high-constrast scenes. There were several instances where certain parts of the image were blown out because the S6 couldn't keep up with the wide range of the scene.
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For what mobile phone cameras are used for, the difference between 16mpx and 12 mpx is nothing. That extra 4pmx has no practical advantage bar the aspect ratio. I'd sooner have an increase in quality and a reduction in size.
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I didn't see much of an increase in quality in the samples provided. I guess I'll see when my S7 comes in
Meh, S6 has more detail in daylight.
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I didn't see much of an increase in quality in the samples provided. I guess I'll see when my S7 comes in
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So when you look at photos 6 and 9 for example you don't see a quality difference. OK.
There seems to be a slight difference between the two. With the S7 just barely edging out the S6... The camera should not be the big reason to get the S7 (even though i am getting the S7)...
I saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD_2udbnsLg and it looks like slow motion video is also better... I noticed on my S6 when i do slow motion, the scene become much darker, the S7 doesnt seem to have that issue...
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There seems to be a slight difference between the two. With the S7 just barely edging out the S6... The camera should not be the big reason to get the S7 (even though i am getting the S7)...
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This +1. My S7E should be here tomorrow also.
My personal opinion and this applies only to me so your mileage may vary - The S6 camera is beyond fantastic, I regularly have amateur photographer friends who ask me what camera I use because my images are excellent (I have an S6E). So, If even if the S7 camera was the *same* as the S6, the S7 is a winner, considering ALL the other improvements they made to the phone. I was worried they would take a step backwards with the slim camera module, and I wasn't really expecting any major camera improvements. But it does seem the S7 camera is slightly better than the S6, which in my mind is a bonus.
And keep in mind all this is before software updates. If you remember the early S6 days, there were 2 if not 3 software updates within the first few months that all had slight camera improvements. I remember there was an update even when I first powered on the phone from tmobile.
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This really should quieten down the people claiming the S6 has a better camera, and that Samsung have taken a step backwards. The outdoor contrast and street at night pictures in particular were hilariously one-sided.
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That's generally those that have the S6 either in contract and cannot yet upgrade and therefore find their own ways to bash it. Happens all the time with new flagships.
Some even pretend they are getting the S7 to try and validate their claim. Very sad in my opinion.
dimkit said:
In my opinion S6 has the advantage , In day time, S6 photos is obvious better than s7 with more vivid colors. During sunset and night , the photos is almost identical with only iexception the night street scene ,which s7 was better.
I would like to see a real life comporison too , because most of us , we usually take photos of our friends and not static buildings in the night.
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agree the "slightly better" come too much in this review... especially with this kind of px drop (16 => 12)
To be honest if the S7 camera is just as good as the S6 I'm golden. I actually don't take too many pictures right now.
Every single one of them looks a little better to me in varying degrees.
Hi all,
I bought OP6 few months ago and went back to pixel 2xl. I was gonna go for pixel 3 but not gonna do it because of alot of issues with the device. Anyway im thinking of buying a OP6 (no 6T ) but the only thing hold me back is the camera. So my question is how's the current development with GCAM + OP6? Is is working like on OP3 + Gcam? HDR working + greenish photo issues have been fixed? Highly appreciated your input
Don't know how it worked back with the OP3 but I come from a Moto G4 Plus and GCam was miles better than stock on that phone although it was very slow to take shots.
My experience with Gcam on my OP6 has been really good. I didn't start using Gcam until a couple of weeks ago but I'd say it's pretty solid when it comes to regular photos. Video doesn't work but the stock op app works fine for that. When I compare pictures between stock and gcam the gcam can be a bit too aggressive when it comes to background blurring and zooming in on text on a whiteboard is better on stock though nightcamera is miles better on gcam.
My point being that gcam isn't superior in every single way compared to stock. Don't know if it might be gcam not working the same as on pixel 3 or the stock just being superior in some scenarios.
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Hi all,
I bought OP6 few months ago and went back to pixel 2xl. I was gonna go for pixel 3 but not gonna do it because of alot of issues with the device. Anyway im thinking of buying a OP6 (no 6T ) but the only thing hold me back is the camera. So my question is how's the current development with GCAM + OP6? Is is working like on OP3 + Gcam? HDR working + greenish photo issues have been fixed? Highly appreciated your input
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Let me get this straight.
You bought OP6, then went back to Pixel 2 XL (because the camera wasn't good? Or is it something else) Then you wanted Pixel 3, but it had issues.
So you want OP6 with the power of a Pixel camera by using the Gcam mod apps?
Ok, I think I can advise on this particular scenario, since I have been testing it extensively.
1) When in good lighting conditions, the stock camera of OP6 is almost as good as cameras of other flagship phones (iPhone XS, Galaxy Note 9, Huawei Mate 20 Pro etc.) I have seen multiple reviews of this camera, and during daylight, it's excellent. My own shots with this camera were very good as well.
2) When in dim lighting conditions, the stock camera of OP6 uses an oversharpening algorithm that makes images look grainy/noisy and also makes images lose a lot of fine detail. Gcam does superior noise reduction, and preserves a lot of detail, but the images come out softer than other flagship phones' . I would definitely use Gcam for low light shots.
3) However, a lowly GS9 cam (which I have access to) is still superior to this OP6 camera, in both daylight and low light scenes. There's not a large but definitely noticeable difference in detail and focus at night, and a slight difference during the day.
Conclusion: The Gcam app will not change your camera experience, unless you take a lot of shots of dimly lit scenes. Using the Gcam app will significantly help you bridge the difference between the OP6 camera and other flagship cameras.
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Don't know how it worked back with the OP3 but I come from a Moto G4 Plus and GCam was miles better than stock on that phone although it was very slow to take shots.
My experience with Gcam on my OP6 has been really good. I didn't start using Gcam until a couple of weeks ago but I'd say it's pretty solid when it comes to regular photos. Video doesn't work but the stock op app works fine for that. When I compare pictures between stock and gcam the gcam can be a bit too aggressive when it comes to background blurring and zooming in on text on a whiteboard is better on stock though nightcamera is miles better on gcam.
My point being that gcam isn't superior in every single way compared to stock. Don't know if it might be gcam not working the same as on pixel 3 or the stock just being superior in some scenarios.
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Thanks man appreciate your input.
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Let me get this straight.
You bought OP6, then went back to Pixel 2 XL (because the camera wasn't good? Or is it something else) Then you wanted Pixel 3, but it had issues.
So you want OP6 with the power of a Pixel camera by using the Gcam mod apps?
Ok, I think I can advise on this particular scenario, since I have been testing it extensively.
1) When in good lighting conditions, the stock camera of OP6 is almost as good as cameras of other flagship phones (iPhone XS, Galaxy Note 9, Huawei Mate 20 Pro etc.) I have seen multiple reviews of this camera, and during daylight, it's excellent. My own shots with this camera were very good as well.
2) When in dim lighting conditions, the stock camera of OP6 uses an oversharpening algorithm that makes images look grainy/noisy and also makes images lose a lot of fine detail. Gcam does superior noise reduction, and preserves a lot of detail, but the images come out softer than other flagship phones' . I would definitely use Gcam for low light shots.
3) However, a lowly GS9 cam (which I have access to) is still superior to this OP6 camera, in both daylight and low light scenes. There's not a large but definitely noticeable difference in detail and focus at night, and a slight difference during the day.
Conclusion: The Gcam app will not change your camera experience, unless you take a lot of shots of dimly lit scenes. Using the Gcam app will significantly help you bridge the difference between the OP6 camera and other flagship cameras.
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Lol. Yeah i went back because of the camera. Once you use a pixel it is hard to find a good camera phone. Yes. I dont wanna go for Pixel 3 due to remaining issues. Here is the thing, only thing i love about Pixel devices are Stock fluid system + superior camera. But i was a oneplus user few years back. Thanks for your long explaination. May i ask you how do i get GS9 cam apk? Only drawback of coming to OP was the camera. Im gonna give it a try
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Thanks man appreciate your input.
Lol. Yeah i went back because of the camera. Once you use a pixel it is hard to find a good camera phone. Yes. I dont wanna go for Pixel 3 due to remaining issues. Here is the thing, only thing i love about Pixel devices are Stock fluid system + superior camera. But i was a oneplus user few years back. Thanks for your long explaination. May i ask you how do i get GS9 cam apk? Only drawback of coming to OP was the camera. Im gonna give it a try
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Sorry, but GS9 camera comparisons are from an actual GS9 phone, which my friend owns.
If your sole issue is camera performance, then don't go back to OP6. It's just not as good as flagship cameras.
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Sorry, but GS9 camera comparisons are from an actual GS9 phone, which my friend owns.
If your sole issue is camera performance, then don't go back to OP6. It's just not as good as flagship cameras.
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totally agree. let's also say that other flagship could cost (in some cases) more than 2 OP6 put together.
comparisons are soooooooooo sweeeeeeet..
I spend most of my free time looking comparisons between phones but we gotta face the fact that there is a CONSISTENT price difference between a MATE 20 PRO or the lastest iPhone and an OP6 (or maybe two, lmao), and still I think that so much money won't giustify the quality difference.
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nabbed said:
Sorry, but GS9 camera comparisons are from an actual GS9 phone, which my friend owns.
If your sole issue is camera performance, then don't go back to OP6. It's just not as good as flagship cameras.
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totally agree. let's also say that other flagship could cost (in some cases) more than 2 OP6 put together.
comparisons are soooooooooo sweeeeeeet..
I spend most of my free time looking comparisons between phones but we gotta face the fact that there is a CONSISTENT price difference between a MATE 20 PRO or the lastest iPhone and an OP6 (or maybe two, lmao), and still I think that so much money won't giustify the quality difference.
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Thank you both. The reason that pixel camera is great beacuse it is just point and shoot. 9 out of 10 it will produce blurr6 free perfect photo without any editing. Most of other cameras won't do that. To be honest im not a photographer or i dont take photos alot ( like used to be). So it is good that i can relay on a camera that will capture that moment without a fail. But if the GCAM port can catch up to that I'll ho back to Oneplus. I know that there is a huge price difference. Thanks though. Really appreciate your help
Hello,
A few weeks ago I've upgraded to EMUI 9.0.0.
The camera with EMUI 8 performed incredibly good, except for a few crashes when making extra long exposure shots.
Since the EMUI 9 upgrade I recognized several issues and drawbacks compared to EMUI 8.
1. To get the same nice colors and lights, I need to enable "AI", but at the same time this makes the camera much slowlier with shooting. Which makes it unusable for quick snapshots of moving targets.
2. Once in AI mode the picture resolution cannot be changed anymore. It only allows for full resolution. I loved the 18:9 format.
3. OIS seems to work way worse (or not at all) in AI mode. Maybe this is correlated to the previous topic, that full resolution is chosen automatically in AI mode. Having a final pic of full resolution I think it would leave no margins for OIS. For sure with EMUI 9 it is much harder to get clear shots.
4. Panorama mode: Pictures are almost impossible to get them sharp and several times the panorama shot was not able to be stopped/completed. Instead the app had to be closed and the panorama repeated.
Did anyone else experience similar behavior and/or has a solution to it? I'm already thinking about downgrading to EMUI 8 as for the bad performance of the camera app.
Thanks for any inputs!
IKR. I am experiencing the same thing. Quality of photos has reduced a lot and face unlock is slower.
I made similar observations concerning reduced photo quality over the course of updates for my Huawei Mate 9. It took me several downgrade attempts with different firmware releases to get it back to the photo quality it delivered when it was new.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75034023&postcount=242
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78311258&postcount=46
One could be forgiven for thinking that they do it intentionally to push their new models.
I have heard others complain.
I don't think the quality changed on mine
C675 b190.
Here's a picture of my week old kittens
Looks good to me.. But then I don't expect professional quality from a cell phone.
They make specific cameras for that.
This is so sweet. I love taking photos of my 6 years old tomcat Louis too. But I have to be quick, he is always sceptical about it ;-
Though your sample looks really cute it should definitely be sharper. Your phone is capable of taking photographs with amazing technical quality, in good lightning conditions often regardless of its firmware, but then again your sample picture could have suffered from the forums compression during upload.
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This is so sweet. I love taking photos of my 6 years old tomcat Louis too. But I have to be quick, he is always sceptical about it ;-
Though your sample looks really cute it should definitely be sharper. Your phone is capable of taking photographs with amazing technical quality, in good lightning conditions often regardless of its firmware, but then again your sample picture could have suffered from the forums compression during upload.
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Facebook does the same.. All my photos.. Even with quick shot.. Volume shutter.. Pictures come out good.
Night shots.. Yeah they suck
Not being.. Ya know
But Asians putting out bad cameras?
Got to be trolling.
Anyway, I decided not to update my Honor View 10 anymore to avoid the risk of quality degradation as I experienced with my Mate 9.
Btw. It is interesting seeing a phone camera perform without the bells an wistles of the vendor software optimizations. Just try any other camera app.
Anyone owning s10e. Do you have such thing that camera diaphragm is being closed and reopened on every camera mode switch? In quiet room it sounds at least strange.
Is the sound troubling to you? Is it affecting image quality?
My s8 and s9 did it, so it seems like its normal.
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Is the sound troubling to you? Is it affecting image quality?
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Only sound. First time having Samsung + a phone with OIS and variable diaphragm. Thought it's a hardware issue.
+ I've already submitted a but about camera closing and reopening diaphragm on photo mode switch. It's definitely looks like a bug. No need to close it and reopen. But I guess one UI will be bugged for a while same as s10e line will be somewhat bugged and patched a lot.
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My s8 and s9 did it, so it seems like its normal.
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Just received my S10+ today, so I have the same confusion as OP since it's my first Samsung phone. Does the diaphragm change even for switching from photo to video? This seems quite unnecessary given no change in light condition and can eventually cause wear and tear.
The only time it didn't change was when I switched from Slow Motion to Super Slow-Mo.
Hey I have the same 'problem' on my S10+ and wondering if it's normal or an issue... It does a click sounds when changing camera modes
If it's not affecting the quality of my videos or photos I wouldn't worry about it. Longevity of the mechanics of the part is something to keep in mind but I can't see it as something that would wear out before the warranty expires.
Update: I went to test the devices at my nearby retail stores.
All of the S10 devices have the same clicking sounds. The Note 9 was silent, while the S9 was barely audible.
I guess they just didn't dampen the sound as much or something to that effect.
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Update: I went to test the devices at my nearby retail stores.
All of the S10 devices have the same clicking sounds. The Note 9 was silent, while the S9 was barely audible.
I guess they just didn't dampen the sound as much or something to that effect.
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OH, so you have real s10 phones in your local stores? Because in Ukraine official Samsung store guys actually told me that presented devices look like original BUT inside CPU is different, camera is somewhat the same (WTF does it mean O_O) and the only thing that matches real devices there is screen. So I couldn't actually reproduce that noise at store and the only thing that calmed me down was that other owners of S10 confirmed ticking noise.
Its normal. My P20 Pro rattles until I open the camera app, then the OIS kicks in and holds the lens still. Similar sort of thing, the phone isn't going to hold the camera active when not in use, wastes power.
Pubg lag
Guys does pubg stutters on ur s10.
Similar sound was experienced on my s7. S10 does the plus many other phones like nokia 1020 used to make similar noise. I don't think its a problem.
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Yes its the variable aperture switching between f 1.5 and 2.2. Its definitely louder on the S10. I have the S10+ and S10e and on both it's quite noticeable when opening the camera and switching modes. Does this on the google pixel camera port as well.
Guys this is NORMAL. The Galaxy S9+ did this, too, with its dual aperture.
It changes when opening some apps -- if it isn't supposed to always do it that often then Samsung can adjust it with a software update.
Ever used a real camera? They are much louder than this when changing.
My s9+ did not do this unless it switched aperture. Never when I opened the camera. My s10e does it every time camera is opened like it switches apertures every time.
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My s9+ did not do this unless it switched aperture. Never when I opened the camera. My s10e does it every time camera is opened like it switches apertures every time.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/b2zfh9/my_favorite_thing_about_the_s10_is/
Ok, guys, since it's a very important topic, one of the pros of this device and what it is advertised for, I feel the need and obligation to speak about the front camera ridiculous noiseness, blurriness and inability to focus.
Alright, I won't even bother with the mighty rear cameras because there's enough fuss about them. What I noticed clearly is about the front. Dude, this camera configuration by the date is horrid. I say configuration because, thank god, it seems to be a software error.
In low light, the front camera is simply a wreck full of noise. And what is most is that I noticed that because I've came from the g7 plus, which had a great front camera, recording 4k. And even without using 4k on that one, I noticed the bad quality of the g8 plus HD one. I don't want to mention that bad adjusting to light conditions, too.
Now, after downloading Gcam and testing it, it seemed to get rid of substancial noise, but not too good.
I hope you guys noticed this too and we get reedeemed by a future update on this crap. It seems software problem
We need custom roms.