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Hopefully someone can answer this question for me. I was thinking about getting a WP7 device with no cell service at all. I was going to use it as a zune/xbox live device only. My question is will it work with no service and using only Wi-Fi? I know an Android phone can be used as a Wi-Fi only device but a Blackberry cannot. I can't find anything about WP7.
Thanks.
You will be able to use it for everything besides calling & sms (although you could use things like google voice for sms over data). Zune, games, marketplace, pictures/videos/podcasts ect will all work fine.
Cool, does it need a SIM to activate upon startup? or is there no activation?
I didn't put a sim in when I first got the phone, and was able to do everything just fine, although I imagine you will need to sign in with your live ID / hotmail account or whatever to use the zune marketplace.
The answer to your question is yes, you can use it as a Zune/XBox Live device only without cell service.
Regarding activation, there's not really an "activation" per se. The device just checks with Microsoft every time you try to use the Marketplace, Xbox Live, or any other live service that the device has a valid PVK. All WP7 devices have a PVK so there's no "activation" process... you just sign in to your Live ID using WiFi.
Awesome, that's what I wanted to hear.
Thanks guys.
Why would you want to do that? It is a phone so whats the point if not to use as a phone?
Xanaki said:
Why would you want to do that? It is a phone so whats the point if not to use as a phone?
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He might be on Sprint or Version, and really wants to use WP7
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flopez76 said:
He might be on Sprint or Version, and really wants to use WP7
Sent From My Command Center... (aka basement)
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That is what my case it, and it is working great!
I have my Diamond that I carry near me when on the go, but mainly use my Focus for everything except calls. Doing this is saving me a lot of money (as I am a Sprint SERO user). But I am 99% sure that I will drop my Diamond once the Arrive comes out, even though I don't like the Arrive formfactor at all.
Xanaki said:
Why would you want to do that? It is a phone so whats the point if not to use as a phone?
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I have an Incredible on Verizon and would never want to use anything but Android for my phone. However, I love Zune and Xbox Live. What I really want is a Zune device with the same Xbox integration WP7 has. I just don't think it's ever going to happen. So, the only option would be to get a WP7 phone and use it in place of that.
That's my current use case as well for AT&T Focus. Works fine so far except WP7 doesn't connect ah-hoc wifi and I can't sharing internet to it with my WM phone.
jackleung said:
That's my current use case as well for AT&T Focus. Works fine so far except WP7 doesn't connect ah-hoc wifi and I can't sharing internet to it with my WM phone.
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Odd. On my Diamond I enable the data sharing hotspot and my Focus is able to connect. I did it a few weeks ago on vacation. It saved me from having to bring my laptop.
don't have a sim in mine never had one in it it works fine, its activated and full of apps. Im gonna later get one of those simple talk ones to try out in it. If they come out with a skype for wp7 may never get one for it. I'm loving it.
I went with the HTC Surround. I figured the extra 8gb and speaker would be nice over the Focus for what I am going to use it for. Thanks again everyone.
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Odd. On my Diamond I enable the data sharing hotspot and my Focus is able to connect. I did it a few weeks ago on vacation. It saved me from having to bring my laptop.
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Opps. Just found it's working for me now. Maybe last time I didn't test enough. I am happy to have the powerful WM and fun WP7 working together now
I'm using a WP7 device without service too.
Is there anything similar to talkatone for WP7?
Also, when using GoVoice for Google Voice, it seems that every time the device is asleep, wifi turns off. So then I don't get text messages through Google Voice. Is there a way to leave wifi on?
usb7 said:
I'm using a WP7 device without service too.
Is there anything similar to talkatone for WP7?
Also, when using GoVoice for Google Voice, it seems that every time the device is asleep, wifi turns off. So then I don't get text messages through Google Voice. Is there a way to leave wifi on?
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I believe wi-fi stays on only if you're connected to AC power.
Hi guys does the HTC ONE XL support 2 way call recording by any chance?
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You mean out of the box (like a built in app?)? If so, then no. I've heard this is illegal is some areas (at least w/o the other party knowing they are being recorded), so I believe manufacturers will not ship with this feature, at least not in the US.
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You mean out of the box (like a built in app?)? If so, then no. I've heard this is illegal is some areas (at least w/o the other party knowing they are being recorded), so I believe manufacturers will not ship with this feature, at least not in the US.
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In the US, the laws vary by state. Several states only require one party to consent, i.e. you can record all your calls, and the only thing forbidden is to record a call you're not a party to. Others require all parties' consent. If the call is between more than one state, you'd probably better just have all parties' consent.
I'd kind of like it if incoming callers could hear a quick "this call will be recorded; hang up if you do not consent" message, and to have my phone record everything.
Ok, everytime I get a new phone I go through this...looking for the best way of enabling this and it usually comes along...most recently with rvoix on my EVO 4G, now I have an EVO 4G LTE (I know, I know, but it is basically the same phone so don't call me out) and want to know if anybody has any information about how one might go about getting that to work on this new phone.
And, just for the sake of clarity - please avoid talking incessantly about the legality/legal issues of it - basically, we all know the law or can find out what it is in our area - this isn't a forum for lawyers. It isn't illegal to use the damn software unless you do something illegal with it.
So, on that note...any information?
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Ok, everytime I get a new phone I go through this...looking for the best way of enabling this and it usually comes along...most recently with rvoix on my EVO 4G, now I have an EVO 4G LTE (I know, I know, but it is basically the same phone so don't call me out) and want to know if anybody has any information about how one might go about getting that to work on this new phone.
And, just for the sake of clarity - please avoid talking incessantly about the legality/legal issues of it - basically, we all know the law or can find out what it is in our area - this isn't a forum for lawyers. It isn't illegal to use the damn software unless you do something illegal with it.
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It wasn't my intent to sound like I was preaching about the law, simply explaining why this type of software is not packed in.
For sake of clarity if you want to use a specific 3rd party app, you should have mentioned it in the OP. OP was very vague. Hard for people to help if you don't tell us what you are looking for.
I guess this question wasn't really directed at USA version of One XL but just one XL in general.
I use the call recorder to take notes when i dont have paper handy. My current phone the incredible S requires a kernel patch to allow it to be used with callrecorder software
the international One X has http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663642
wonder if this works on One XL
Hi there, how can u quickly check functionality of used phone
(gnex,ns etc.), i mean gps ,wifi, screen(i know about"pixel screen" app.),
signal strength etc.
I'm asking about checking software not hardware.
Maybe someone has experience in buying second hand phones, so please share your
experience/knowledge..
Thanks in advance
Only buy a used phone that can be rooted so U can change the software and other important phone qualities urself.
Vs Nexus S 4G
To test your device you need to use it in a daily use...
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vidaljs said:
Only buy a used phone that can be rooted so U can change the software and other important phone qualities urself.
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Yeah i know it ;-)
But I'm asking abut;
For example if i would like to buy a used Gnex or Ns, how can i check quickly (is there a way?) Software/hardware to be sure I'm buying fully functional phone
I mean mostly things like gps, data connection drops, wifi etc.
If some of u bought a second hand phone (gnex ,ns),
Please share ur experience.
Thanks in advance ;-)
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Yeah i know it ;-)
But I'm asking abut;
For example if i would like to buy a used Gnex or Ns, how can i check quickly (is there a way?) Software/hardware to be sure I'm buying fully functional phone
I mean mostly things like gps, data connection drops, wifi etc.
If some of u bought a second hand phone (gnex ,ns),
Please share ur experience.
Thanks in advance ;-)
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The only to know is to either get some sort of guarantee (if you're buying online) or to test it yourself if you're buying in person. If they won't let you test it then there's probably something they're trying to hide.
are you asking is there an app that does all that for you?
...no
stand there and test it
if the seller doesnt want to wait
you dont want that phone
you cant test data speed etc. without a connection to
your provider
if you have GSM service put your sim in it.
no matter what used CDMA equipment is always
a leap of faith to some degree unless the seller
will let you put it on your account
i'v bought 3 used
only knowing they would power up
and checking the ESN's before purchase
havnt got burned...
...yet
fwiw
Do adb logcat
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Do adb logcat
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How can i do it?
So it's been announced. The Kill switch will be implemented July 2015 KILL SWITCH
For starters this has existed with iPhones for a while and honestly, it seems good but is a wildly suspect move! Why? Because I clearly remember Carriers being against it the idea! EL EVIDENCE. On top of that, the implementation being over a year from now?!?!
Well I said my piece, what are you guys thoughts on this? Good? Bad? Unsure? Complicated? Turkey Sandwich? :laugh:
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So it's been announced. The Kill switch will be implemented July 2015 KILL SWITCH
For starters this has existed with iPhones for a while and honestly, it seems good but is a wildly suspect move! Why? Because I clearly remember Carriers being against it the idea! EL EVIDENCE. On top of that, the implementation being over a year from now?!?!
Well I said my piece, what are you guys thoughts on this? Good? Bad? Unsure? Complicated? Turkey Sandwich? :laugh:
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They don't like the Kill Switch because it would directly affect their insurance profits.
I've heard from thieves that Android phones are prefered to be chosen for stealing, because iPhones are easily traceable and they lock down in a way that's too hard to workaround, and you'd only need to hard-reset an Android to get it fresh for you.
So, yes, I like the kill-switch
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They don't like the Kill Switch because it would directly affect their insurance profits.
I've heard from thieves that Android phones are prefered to be chosen for stealing, because iPhones are easily traceable and they lock down in a way that's too hard to workaround, and you'd only need to hard-reset an Android to get it fresh for you.
So, yes, I like the kill-switch
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Exactly! Its a great idea for consumers but a hole in the pocket for the phone carriers. I hope we win
The unintended costs when implementing a kill switch is astronomical which is why the carrier's analysis's are telling them no don't do it. Why? Money for most obvious reason and also Stupidity. A decent percentage would be of people who simply lost their phone in their house or car and report it stolen and then brick it via the kill switch... instead of them finding it later it's just money down the drain. Insurance premiums would actually be higher as the property which they are insuring doesn't have a high enough risk mitigation by the kill switch to prevent theft over the cost of having a completely bricked phone. The PR and customer service policies and security protocols are expensive.
I would say a better alternative should exist... eg biometrics so ONLY YOU can operate your phone.
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The unintended costs when implementing a kill switch is astronomical which is why the carrier's analysis's are telling them no don't do it. Why? Money for most obvious reason and also Stupidity. A decent percentage would be of people who simply lost their phone in their house or car and report it stolen and then brick it via the kill switch... instead of them finding it later it's just money down the drain. Insurance premiums would actually be higher as the property which they are insuring doesn't have a high enough risk mitigation by the kill switch to prevent theft over the cost of having a completely bricked phone. The PR and customer service policies and security protocols are expensive.
I would say a better alternative should exist... eg biometrics so ONLY YOU can operate your phone.
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Kill switches aren't actually meant to "kill" the phone. It locks up, and if you recover it, you can unlock it.
Nobody else is able to unlock it using conventional means.
Tapatalked thru my CM12 G3!
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Kill switches aren't actually meant to "kill" the phone. It locks up, and if you recover it, you can unlock it.
Nobody else is able to unlock it using conventional means.
Tapatalked thru my CM12 G3!
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Actually the company can unlock it I believe. But no security is full proof!
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Actually the company can unlock it I believe. But no security is full proof!
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Sure they aren't! Bulletproof vests have limited capacity and only protects a certain region, but it's better to go in a shooting wearing one rather than not!
Catch my drift? =P
techacker007 said:
Exactly! Its a great idea for consumers but a hole in the pocket for the phone carriers. I hope we win
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Somehow, I think that cost will find its way to the user. I don't know about you but I pay enough for service, even with a company discount. I'm not interested in soaking up more costs.
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Sure they aren't! Bulletproof vests have limited capacity and only protects a certain region, but it's better to go in a shooting wearing one rather than not!
Catch my drift? =P
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I get it but the analogy doesn't make too much sense, no offense. a kill switch is ideally supposed to be full proof and not a vest, more like a secret underground lair no one knows about.
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I get it but the analogy doesn't make too much sense, no offense. a kill switch is ideally supposed to be full proof and not a vest, more like a secret underground lair no one knows about.
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Using my analogy, a bulletproof vest will hold most of the bullets that might hit you
But if the guy -really- want to get you, you're screwed.
Same thing. This kill switch only prevents the phone from booting or wiping the ROM using conventional methods, but if the thief -really- wants you phone, he can crack directly at the internal memory using.. Idk forgot the tool, but it's pretty expensive and mostly used to replace internal memories.
But I doubt there will be a robber/tinkerer willing to go all this way for your phone..
So, is it crackable? Yes.
Is it feasible? No.
But if you mean a kill switch, like to really break the phone circuitry.. That wouldn't make sense. Locking the hell out of it renders the phone mostly useless, and if you ever recover it, you can unlock it.
(Also, imagine this button in a country that Apple products have to say they aren't edible..)
Tapatalked thru my CM12 G3!
GUYS how to disable this Kill Switch, it's not allowing me to enter to download mode.
"Download mode is disabled by Kill Switch"
Question. What's Honors stance on adding Wifi calling to future OTAs? It looks like they've received a bit of demand but I haven't heard anything specifically on this since the AMA.
https://m.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/50ivz4/comment/d74ii4p
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Question. What's Honors stance on adding Wifi calling to future OTAs? It looks like they've received a bit of demand but I haven't heard anything specifically on this since the AMA.
https://m.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/50ivz4/comment/d74ii4p
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since most users have requested for it,they would consider in the future update
Ascertion said:
Question. What's Honors stance on adding Wifi calling to future OTAs? It looks like they've received a bit of demand but I haven't heard anything specifically on this since the AMA.
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See attached screenshot from Amazon Q&A about the Honor 8 found here:
https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Unlocked-Midnight-Black-Warranty/dp/B01IVV7W6O/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1480128845&sr=1-2&keywords=Honor+8
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See attached screenshot from Amazon Q&A about the Honor 8 found here:
https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Unlock...e=UTF8&qid=1480128845&sr=1-2&keywords=Honor+8
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Wow! I hope this actually happens.
Wondering if the honor 8 can use WiFi calling / texting on AT&T (fairly new option)
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mis3 said:
Wondering if the honor 8 can use WiFi calling / texting on AT&T (fairly new option)
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No.
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See attached screenshot from Amazon Q&A about the Honor 8 found here:
https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Unlock...e=UTF8&qid=1480128845&sr=1-2&keywords=Honor+8
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so eventually we can expect it to work???
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so eventually we can expect it to work???
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The way I understand it, Huawei is working with T-mobile to get Wifi calling working on the Honor 8 (US version) with a future software update. Whether this actually happens remains to be seen. (I believe that ZTE is still trying to get it to work for their Axon 7.)
I wish I would have known this BEFORE I bought the phone. Specs are great otherwise, but no WiFi calling support on a 'flagship' level device such as this is a deal breaker when you have very little carrier signal (any carrier) in your home. Returning and spending the money on a device with support for what has become a basic functionality on any smart phone.
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I wish I would have known this BEFORE I bought the phone. Specs are great otherwise, but no WiFi calling support on a 'flagship' level device such as this is a deal breaker when you have very little carrier signal (any carrier) in your home. Returning and spending the money on a device with support for what has become a basic functionality on any smart phone.
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This is controlled my the carriers, not the phone manufacturers.
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This is controlled my the carriers, not the phone manufacturers.
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No, it isn't. This misinformed nonsense also needs to stop being repeated and propagated as fact.
The support is either built into the phone software or not. If the carrier supports it then it works. If the carrier does not, then the option does nothing. The feature itself, however, has to be built into the phone's software. My unlocked HTC 10 supports it as do the Nexus phones, both of which are two examples of non-carrier branded phones.
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No, it isn't. This misinformed nonsense also needs to stop being repeated and propagated as fact.
The support is either built into the phone software or not. If the carrier supports it then it works. If the carrier does not, then the option does nothing. The feature itself, however, has to be built into the phone's software. My unlocked HTC 10 supports it as do the Nexus phones, both of which are two examples of non-carrier branded phones.
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True. Even if the update provides the device that it will only work if the carrier supports it.
Bullocks
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This is the same thing Huawei keeps saying as well, but if the software isn't configured to support it (because the carrier certainly does - On my GS6 with Android 6.0.1 it works just fine - everywhere I have WiFi) it won't work. There's no option in the WiFi menu for WiFi calling, and it's been pretty well documented that they intend to bake this in to the next EMUI update with Nougat. In the mean time, you either deal with the constant ummounting of the SD card and lack of WiFi calling, or take it back for a phone that isn't quite so underwhelming and buggy.
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This is controlled my the carriers, not the phone manufacturers.
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Yeah, this feature is controlled by Cell Carriers not by device manufacturers.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
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Yeah, this feature is controlled by Cell Carriers not by device manufacturers.
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Yes, the availability of the feature set is controlled by the carrier - but if the carrier supports WiFi calling - as T-Mobile / MetroPCS does - it's whether the device hardware and/or software supports the feature that dictates usability. The Honor 8 does NOT support WiFi calling, because EMUI doesn't have the feature enabled. Period. Huawei has said as much.
Look, If Google trusts Huawei to make the Pixel for them (there are a lot of great similarities here), they've got a good thing going. But this is basic device functionality stuff. Are they worried that Pixel sales will be hurt by people buying the Honor 8 if it's fully featured? Hmmm. Wish I'd thought of that. Oh wait. I did.
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Yes, the availability of the feature set is controlled by the carrier - but if the carrier supports WiFi calling - as T-Mobile / MetroPCS does - it's whether the device hardware and/or software supports the feature that dictates usability. The Honor 8 does NOT support WiFi calling, because EMUI doesn't have the feature enabled. Period. Huawei has said as much.
Look, If Google trusts Huawei to make the Pixel for them (there are a lot of great similarities here), they've got a good thing going. But this is basic device functionality stuff. Are they worried that Pixel sales will be hurt by people buying the Honor 8 if it's fully featured? Hmmm. Wish I'd thought of that. Oh wait. I did.
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The biggest issue is getting certified to use WiFi calling which is very hard for China based companies. Not impossible but to be honest I have not seen a single one get certified in the states yet.
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The biggest issue is getting certified to use WiFi calling which is very hard for China based companies. Not impossible but to be honest I have not seen a single one get certified in the states yet.
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My Le Pro3 from Le Eco has Wifi calling. It works better on this than it did the Nexus 5X.
Edit: You're right though. It costs companies time and money to implement it although I wish Huawei was more vocal on this. Their XDA partnership hasn't really impressed me yet.
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My Le Pro3 from Le Eco has Wifi calling. It works better on this than it did the Nexus 5X.
Edit: You're right though. It costs companies time and money to implement it although I wish Huawei was more vocal on this. Their XDA partnership hasn't really impressed me yet.
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There is alot of history there with this OEM. They for many years were banned in the US due to security issues and even to this day their devices are not allowed on some military bases. I thought about getting an honor 8 but will have to fill out tons of paperwork to see if I can get it approved due to some places I work.
Done
I just decided it was time to be done and returned the phone. Back to my GS6 after cooking the daylights out of it to remove any condensation from my little one dumping it in the dog drink. Oddly, I had a lot of strange crashes, and exorbitant date usage & GPS locks by Huawei specific apps. Might be on to something there.
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There is alot of history there with this OEM. They for many years were banned in the US due to security issues and even to this day their devices are not allowed on some military bases. I thought about getting an honor 8 but will have to fill out tons of paperwork to see if I can get it approved due to some places I work.
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No WiFi calling support on Honor 8
Hi Guys, I am T-mobile user and switch to Honor 8 from Motorola Nexus 6 about three months back and after use around week felt that this is the best Phone ever better than iPhone 6S. After few days used this phone found that it's doesn't have WiFi calling feature which does have on Nexus 6 because at my work place very barely T-mobile signals reach. Try to find some blogs and got that will get this feature in next update vEMUI 5.0 with Android 7.0 which i got recently few days back. but still this feature doesn't show up or working at all. now I am feeling like this is the wrong choise coz it not supporting WiFi calling which normally most smartphones does support.
Huwai Team please address this and let us know if any fix is available to overcome this.