Hello fellow pixel users.
my phone is costing me an exhaustively large amount of money for seemingly no reason.
as many of you are probably aware of this issue, "Android OS" or whatever is in this collection (see list below) is just continuously doing some background data bull**** and causing my mobile data to go through the roof.
I decided to set a restriction of 1gb of data usage of my phone in preparation for next month's billing and blew through 1gb in the day that my mobile data refreshed for the month.
I am rooted with stock OS from google, 7.1.1 and OTA updates is off in developer options.
what can I do, how can i stop this?
also, can i find out what its actually doing with the data? can I understand what is being requested somehow, is there a log somewhere?
until I can understand why this is happening and how to fix it permanently, mobile data is off.
all i wanna do is receive whatsapp messages and check the news at lunch.
penfold1992 said:
Hello fellow pixel users.
my phone is costing me an exhaustively large amount of money for seemingly no reason.
as many of you are probably aware of this issue, "Android OS" or whatever is in this collection (see list below) is just continuously doing some background data bull**** and causing my mobile data to go through the roof.
I decided to set a restriction of 1gb of data usage of my phone in preparation for next month's billing and blew through 1gb in the day that my mobile data refreshed for the month.
I am rooted with stock OS from google, 7.1.1 and OTA updates is off in developer options.
what can I do, how can i stop this?
also, can i find out what its actually doing with the data? can I understand what is being requested somehow, is there a log somewhere?
until I can understand why this is happening and how to fix it permanently, mobile data is off.
all i wanna do is receive whatsapp messages and check the news at lunch.
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settings/apps
select an app like Google
is there a line for data usage?
if you click data usage, is the options
for background and unrestricted?
un check both for any apps you don't need using data
if you don't see those options
I'll try to find something else
Sent from my sailfish using XDA Labs
I'm using pure nexus rom, so you options maybe different
Sent from my sailfish using XDA Labs
This has been answered a few times in different threads. If you are rooted and stock, your phone will attempt to download the OTA update over and over again, even if you have updates turned off. The only way I have found to stop it is to take the update (sideload is probably the easiest method) whenever a new update is released and re-root and reflash recovery after updating.
I called Verizon and complained that their update caused me a data overage without my authorization and got a 4 GB ($60) bill credit two months ago.
penfold1992 said:
Hello fellow pixel users.
my phone is costing me an exhaustively large amount of money for seemingly no reason.
as many of you are probably aware of this issue, "Android OS" or whatever is in this collection (see list below) is just continuously doing some background data bull**** and causing my mobile data to go through the roof.
I decided to set a restriction of 1gb of data usage of my phone in preparation for next month's billing and blew through 1gb in the day that my mobile data refreshed for the month.
I am rooted with stock OS from google, 7.1.1 and OTA updates is off in developer options.
what can I do, how can i stop this?
also, can i find out what its actually doing with the data? can I understand what is being requested somehow, is there a log somewhere?
until I can understand why this is happening and how to fix it permanently, mobile data is off.
all i wanna do is receive whatsapp messages and check the news at lunch.
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you can check the data usage detail here (the left side of the following pic).
http://forums.androidcentral.com/at...month-my-pixel-screenshot_20170316-000040.png
The situation appears to be as noted by pimpinpanther96. My current plan is to try using FlashFire for keeping my phone up to date to avoid the usage. If that doesn't work, I may try out Pure Nexus, since their notes suggest OTA downloads have been disabled.
pimpinpanther96 said:
This has been answered a few times in different threads. If you are rooted and stock, your phone will attempt to download the OTA update over and over again, even if you have updates turned off. The only way I have found to stop it is to take the update (sideload is probably the easiest method) whenever a new update is released and re-root and reflash recovery after updating.
I called Verizon and complained that their update caused me a data overage without my authorization and got a 4 GB ($60) bill credit two months ago.
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i have 7.1.1 on my phone and i am assuming there is no other OTA updates that it passes.
Is it possible to disable OTA update internally rather than the option to disable it in the dev options (which is already "OFF" by the way)
penfold1992 said:
i have 7.1.1 on my phone and i am assuming there is no other OTA updates that it passes.
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Are you up to date according to Settings > About phone > System updates?
Is it possible to disable OTA update internally rather than the option to disable it in the dev options (which is already "OFF" by the way)
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The only alternate option I've seen suggested is the following, which blanks the system updates in settings. I've tried it twice, and both times it kept my phone awake and wouldn't allow deep sleep, so I'm not going to use it. In one of the other threads a reply indicated their firewall was still rejecting traffic after changing the following, so it may not be any better than the development option.
https://www.androidexplained.com/pixel-hide-ota-notification/
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I have a non-rooted, stock G2 (on T-Mobile) running Android 2.2.
Every day, as many as twenty or thirty times per day, the phone gets stuck in "upload" mode. The data icon shows that data is uploading (or trying to) and I am unable to use any data-related services (whether tethered or on the phone itself). When it happens it can last anywhere from 10 seconds to 5 minutes. The only way I can forcibly stop it is to completely shut down the radio by toggling airplane mode off then on, forcing the phone to reacquire a data signal.
I've tried resetting the phone to factory defaults, deleting every app, reinserting the SIM card, and even formatting the SD card. Stopping running processes doesn't affect the issue, nor does implementing a task killer to kill extant apps. I also don't have any reliable way of tracking how much data *might* be getting sent (where ever it might be going). I've toggled off background data, syncing, GPS, network location, etc. Anything user settable that could potentially impact data has been switched off, to no avail. But, even with those settings on, I've never (in the past) had them completely usurp my data usage by locking the mobile data into an upload state.
My three main concerns are that 1) I can't reliably download apps, check mail, send pics/videos, or other data-related processes. 2) I'm concerned that if something IS uploading, it may be uploading a LOT and adding to my 5GB per month throttle-cap on T-Mobile. 3) I don't know WHAT is being sent, or WHERE. For all I know it could be sending my private data and contact info to an unknown third party.
I've ended every endable process and killed or uninstalled every app possible. I can't seem to remove bloatware without rooting, which I'm not yet eager to do as this phone is less than 60 days old, and I'm otherwise very happy with it as is.
Any suggestions or recent information as to why this is occurring? I have seen a similar thread for a different phone (Incredible), but it was from over a year ago and there were no solutions (other than flashing a new ROM). I'd like to stay stock, at least for a while, but if there is no other option and the Gingerbread OTA doesn't resolve this issue, then I may very well go to CyanogenMod (which I was happily running on my previous phone, the G1).
-Mark
Hi,
I have two Nexus 5 phones in my possession, both currently on 4.4.2 (Cataclysm and AOKP). I've recently noticed that the N5 running 4.4.2 Cataclysm has been using an immense amount of background data for 'Google Services' and did some digging to find out what it was. Turns out the phone is constantly re-downloading an OTA update, failing to flash it, then re-downloading it again, and so on.
There's a few attached images that are related - the file it's downloading, and the data used so far.
I found a couple of supposed solutions on various XDA threads and disabled the update service at startup, as well as installing FOTAKill.apk to system, but somehow it's still downloading and it's wearing me down as I can't figure out how to stop it. I understand an update to 4.4.4 would fix it, but i'd rather not as the person currently using the phone isn't all that keen on me taking time to flash & restore backups etc.
Are there any fixes for this that can be done by removing/disabling system services or the like? If it comes to it, I may just be able to block access to that particular ZIP in pfSense/SquidGuard.
Cheers.
ItsEmber said:
Hi,
I have two Nexus 5 phones in my possession, both currently on 4.4.2 (Cataclysm and AOKP). I've recently noticed that the N5 running 4.4.2 Cataclysm has been using an immense amount of background data for 'Google Services' and did some digging to find out what it was. Turns out the phone is constantly re-downloading an OTA update, failing to flash it, then re-downloading it again, and so on.
There's a few attached images that are related - the file it's downloading, and the data used so far.
I found a couple of supposed solutions on various XDA threads and disabled the update service at startup, as well as installing FOTAKill.apk to system, but somehow it's still downloading and it's wearing me down as I can't figure out how to stop it. I understand an update to 4.4.4 would fix it, but i'd rather not as the person currently using the phone isn't all that keen on me taking time to flash & restore backups etc.
Are there any fixes for this that can be done by removing/disabling system services or the like? If it comes to it, I may just be able to block access to that particular ZIP in pfSense/SquidGuard.
Cheers.
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Download this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
Disable SystemUpdateService in Google Play Services + Google Services Framework.
The app itself doesn't store any data so you can uninstall it afterwards.
Or;
Open /system/build.prop, change
Code:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/hammerhead/hammerhead:4.4.2/KOT49H/937116:user/release-keys
to
Code:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/hammerhead/hammerhead:4.4.4/KTU84P/1227136:user/release-keys
I believe you can long press on the notification and just untick show notification.
nitramus said:
I believe you can long press on the notification and just untick show notification.
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Doesn't stop it from downloading the OTA again and again. That'll just hide all notifications from Android System, and you might miss something else.
If people don't want to be bothered by important security updates and other goodies, why should we care? I fully updated my manta last night (factory image, latest twrp, omni, restore stuff) in 30min. In my opinion, you're just being lazy with both devices.
beekay201 said:
If people don't want to be bothered by important security updates and other goodies, why should we care? I fully updated my manta last night (factory image, latest twrp, omni, restore stuff) in 30min. In my opinion, you're just being lazy with both devices.
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The ROM used is an outdated rom, Cataclysm(4.4.2), which is based on stock.
It's their preference for what they want to use.
Has anyone with root had a problem with Android OS all of a sudden using 4GB+ of their data? Use to only use maybe 6MB. I haven't installed the newest update but I do have auto updates turned off. Google help was a no go. They told me Android OS doesn't use that much data. Anyone able to help me realize what's using it?
Noticed mine is doing the same but for the second time. First time i didn't knew what the problem was. But know i notice it used 1,53gb in one day of data, that is mobile data not even speaking about the wifi data. It started yesterday after a failed update of the OS through the UI. I think it's downloading the update over and over again every hour even when i did disable auto update in developer settings. The update is 100mb so it makes sense after a day.
The problem i dont know why the update fails. I do have a custom kernel installed. Don't know if this is causing the problem. Is it possible to have a custom kernel and OTA?
I had the same issue last month and had to call verizon to get a credit for their ota using up all of my data. You cannot take any ota's if you're rooted. The only way I could get it to stop was to sideload the update. The longer I put off updating, no matter which settings I turned off, the more data was used.
Okay, glad I'm not the only one. It even consumed data when I had the auto update turned off. Guess I'll try to side load when I get off of work today!
By months my 3a won't automatically update itself even with update/download "over any network", I have already tried to restore and wipe from recovery but still unresolved.
Does anyone noticed this issue?
I tried waiting almost one month without system (monthly patch) and apps (all pending) updates popup.
Google support after few attempts, just proposed me a warranty replacement but the phone otherwise is perfect.
Manual updates works.
Any tips?
TY
I had the same issue back in January and didn't get a system update well into April. So I had to manually update. Still haven't gotten the May update yet, but we'll see.
Also with the apps?
If you have an unlocked bootloader, I would not count on automatic monthly updates. They work sometimes, but not most of the time. My personal experience is that I have to sideload the monthly updates about 90% of the time.
As far as app updates, I generally manually check it every couple of days and find that there are pending updates. I will hit the "update" button and manually update them if I see pending updates. That being said, if I don't check it for a while (maybe a week), the phone will eventually update the apps, but it certainly doesn't happen on a daily basis, at least not in my experience. I just wanted to add my experiences as they seem to be very similar to yours.
sic0048 said:
If you have an unlocked bootloader, I would not count on automatic monthly updates. They work sometimes, but not most of the time. My personal experience is that I have to sideload the monthly updates about 90% of the time.
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Having an unlocked bootloader, too, but I never had issues with updates until now, they are coming directly at the first day Google is sending out the OTA.
I wonder if our phone service provider is also a factor? I have not been seeing the updates available within a day or two of when they are posted on the first Monday of the month. I get my phone service through a T-mobile MVNO. Maybe people on Google Fi are more likely to get it OTA quickly?
My phone is rooted with Magisk.
But I'm impatient so I have always just applied the update manually. It's a bit more of a pain because it means that I have to download not only the update but also the factory image to extract the boot image file and patch it with Magisk.
I have not had a problem installing updates for apps through play. I just have to remember to NOT update youtube so that I don't lose youtube vanced!
Hi all and thanks for your time!
I have a good news.
After avoid to do any manual update, right now I see that few apps have been updated themself from 11 hr and 2 days ago, but other 22 apps are still pending (when I wrote here the 6th May they were 40).
Around the 23th of Feb I had to do manual update search because it still was with Jan patch, even in March and April I did the manual search the week after the day 5th.
My phone is not rooted and during the day it uses both cellular and WiFi networks, mostly of the nights I put it in airplane mode and battery save (so it lasts easily for 2 days).
The cause was because I put all the nights the phone in airplane mode with battery saver, last night I leave it connected to WiFi and under charge, this morning I found the advice to reboot for install the system patch and after boot also the apps were updated.
The system patch has been found around 4 am.
I'm having a similar issue with my rooted 3a. I have stock rom, elemental kernel, and magisk. But apps that came installed as part of the ohone won't update in Google play. Stuff like phone, contacts, sim carrier, Gmail, camera, etc
There's literally about 20 updates right now that won't install. They download, and say installing, then they just skip to the next and still say there's an available update. After the final one is tried, I get a message saying that it was unable to update those apps.
Any app that I downloaded from play or as an apk, allows me to update without any issue at all.
I have googled it and followed the recommendations, but so far, nothing has helped. I cleaned the cache, hard reboots, switch update settings, turned off play protect, deleted cache and data of play store and play services. Removed my account and added it bad. And have some a few more things that I read about -- but yet nothing fixes it.
If I should start a new thread, that's no problem. I don't want to hijack this one. But saw that it dealt with update issues and thought maybe I would see if I could find help.
Sorry for potentially asking a dumb question, but im at my wits end here.
Is there any way to completely disable OTA updates, with the stock ROM on the Pixel 4a?
Asking because i have turned automatic updates off in settings and it STILL checks and STILL force updates the phone after a week or so. This is extremely frustrating as i have very specific versions of certain apps installed, eg Google Keyboard, Vanced YouTube, Pre stories Twitter etc. They are all configured exactly how i want and when it updates it installs the latest versions and consequently ****s all the settings up at the same time. This means i have to spend a few hours uninstallling, reinstalling and re configuring the whole ****ing phone again.
So yeah, is there a way? I am rooted with magisk if thats of any benefit. Ill do anything, even if it fundamentally breaks google play store/services and requires ghetto apps like LP/Autostarts etc. I just want my device how I want, not what some trillion dollar company wants.
My last device was a Mi A2 Lite and it behaved itself perfectly before i destroyed the screen. Starting to regret this upgrade.
When you say "I have turned automatic updates off", did you do this in the play store app? If so, good.
But, you can also try these extra steps:
1) Turn on "Developer Mode" on your phone (do search for how to do this). Then go into developer options and turn off "Automatic System Updates".
2) Then do the changes I did in this post:
How do I stop update notices?
I'm rooted with Android 10 on my pixel4a. I don't want to upgrade to 11 just yet, but I keep getting the annoying update notices. Is there an app or module I can freeze with titanium to turn off the notices?
forum.xda-developers.com
Since doing these, I have not seen an "Upgrade to Android 11" (I'm on A10) message and I have not noticed any apps being forced updated.
yeah google play updates are disabled. which is interesting because after the phone updates, it re enables them, as well as a bunch of other permissions in settings!
and yeah ive disabled auto system updates in developer options, which is what im pissed about because it still updated the phone without my permission whilst i was asleep last night.
ill try and force freeze those components you listed, see if that kills it.
i might have a poke around the autostarts app later and see if i can do something there, thats if it even works with android 11.
the last time i had to do this was on my nexus 7 running kitkat lol