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5.99 for converter of older cables. I like these instead of buying new cables at this time since I have a ton of micro usb stuff still. Any reason I shouldn't use these? I'm sure it won't charge as fast as stock charger/file xfer, but otherwise?
D & K Exclusives® Reversible Design Hi-speed USB3.1 Type C Male to Micro USB Female Adapter Converter Connector for Nokia N1 Pad, Macbook, Letv Smartphone and Other Type-C Supported Devices (White 1pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011SVP0V8/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_amTcwbZHV5TAM
I ordered some cheapo ones from eBay but they will probably get here before the actual phone. They should def be slower but I think the charging should be comparable.
I was about to ask the same thing. Those look good enough. I don't want to replace all my cables especially since some of them do double duty (charge PS4 remote).
Whenever i buy some type c cables I'm going to buy like $50 worth so I can have them in the myriad of places I keep them.
dontbeweakvato said:
Whenever i buy some type c cables I'm going to buy like $50 worth so I can have them in the myriad of places I keep them.
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Would love to see some sort of sticky charging guide here. Not sure if I should be buying adapters, c to c, standard to c, new chargers, or what...
I'm thinking I'll keep my current 6 port charger and just getting some adapters so the micro usb can still charge, but really don't want to lose the quick charge feature, so maybe I should replace my charger, i probably should replace all my cables, they're getting kind of worn and I know sometimes the cheaper ones won't charge @ 2 amps.
New car charger?
Already going to have to replace our tylt wireless chargers we have by the bed, would love a usbc dock I guess...
ugh too much research to do again....I guess that's the silver lining of the phone not getting here for over a month
Will be interesting to see if anyone can get some solid numbers on how much these affect the charging rate.
I think ill use my standard cables with the adapter for a while. Til i get to know them better.
I'm really hoping I don't have to be stressed about fast charging otherwise it's going to go back to Google.
dx.com has a 5-pack for about $5, free shipping doesn't kick in until $15 spent, so you might as well browse.
I just bought a 4-pack of USB C cables in Amazon for $20 and called it a day. That + the one that comes with the phone should be a good start.
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Jaxidian said:
I just bought a 4-pack of USB C cables in Amazon for $20 and called it a day. That + the one that comes with the phone should be a good start.
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Me too. The one with the 4 colored ones? Will it work for fast charge?
Yeah, that's what I bought. Supposed to arrive next Wednesday.
I have no clue if those cables will limit charging speeds. No real way to tell until we get the phone and compare with the cable shipped with the phone.
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The 6p packaging includes a micro USB to type C converter cable, right?
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eep2378 said:
The 6p packaging includes a micro USB to type C converter cable, right?
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Yes that's what the Google store site says.
eep2378 said:
The 6p packaging includes a micro USB to type C converter cable, right?
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Yes that's what the Google store site says.
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No, I don't think so...
It says they include C to standard A and a C to C. It doesn't say anything about micro USB to C.
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Yes that's what the Google store site says.
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"The 6p packaging includes a micro USB to type C converter cable, right?"
Nope, just a USB Type-C to Type-C cable, a USB Type-C 15W (5V/3A) charger and a USB Type-C to Standard-A cable. Nothing to micro-USB.
Snarklife said:
"The 6p packaging includes a micro USB to type C converter cable, right?"
Nope, just a USB Type-C to Type-C cable, a USB Type-C 15W (5V/3A) charger and a USB Type-C to Standard-A cable. Nothing to micro-USB.
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You guys are right. My bad I miss read what he was asking.
Jaxidian said:
I just bought a 4-pack of USB C cables in Amazon for $20 and called it a day. That + the one that comes with the phone should be a good start.
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Got a link to it please?
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Got a link to it please?
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013RMG5WY
They are obviously only 2.0 cables but I figure unless you're spending big bucks right now on 3.0 A -> 3.1 C cables (or even 3.1 C -> 3.1 C with new chargers), pretty much ANYTHING we buy right now will be replaced later once we have more mainstream 3.x cables to buy at good prices from Anker or somebody. But this is the best price I could find for 4x cables that have good reviews. I've found a few that are a tad cheaper but with no reviews, so I decided this was the right answer for me.
Jaxidian said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013RMG5WY
They are obviously only 2.0 cables but I figure unless you're spending big bucks right now on 3.0 A -> 3.1 C cables (or even 3.1 C -> 3.1 C with new chargers), pretty much ANYTHING we buy right now will be replaced later once we have more mainstream 3.x cables to buy at good prices from Anker or somebody. But this is the best price I could find for 4x cables that have good reviews. I've found a few that are a tad cheaper but with no reviews, so I decided this was the right answer for me.
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Appreciate it!!
Figured we could help each other with links.... I've looked and looked and found very few.
I'll try to keep the op updated with subsequent links.
Note: this is ONLY for true type C cables (both ends)
Anker- $10. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0119OI9XU/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_apInwbS1XSHX0
For Canadians, this is the best deal.
http://m.ebay.ca/itm/221887432883?_mwBanner=1
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i bought this in canada. extra couple bux and prime so id be here in a couple days.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B012A5RRIA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I just found this on Amazon after searching for days for a 10ft / 3m cable.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0144FGUEQ
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This is another 10ft / 3m cable from Aukey, but quite a bit more expensive:
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Aukey-Extra-Charging-MacBook/dp/B0168IJBWA/
Any good Type A to Type C cables? - for using with my car's USB ports or my PC's USB ports
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Type B to Type C adapters? - for using with my old microUSB cables
Type A to C, you can get a pretty cheap and good looking 4 pack of the ORZLY ones, I posted some pics of them a couple of weeks ago.
RED ZMAN said:
Type A to C, you can get a pretty cheap and good looking 4 pack of the ORZLY ones, I posted some pics of them a couple of weeks ago.
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Careful with them. Have you seen this review?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member...age=1&sort_by=MostRecentReview#R1189CCK1UXGT5
No, that was posted well after I bought and received them.
Hmm, perhaps it is time to see if I can return them. Still have the original packaging.
With all these high power requirements I think we need to be careful what we buy. We know certain parts of the world will cut corners to make a quick buck at the expense of frying our hardware.
I'll stay with the cables that come in the box for now, until we have more choices, though I'm hurting for a cable for the car.
sirxdroid said:
With all these high power requirements I think we need to be careful what we buy. We know certain parts of the world will cut corners to make a quick buck at the expense of frying our hardware.
I'll stay with the cables that come in the box for now, until we have more choices, though I'm hurting for a cable for the car.
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+1
Aside from my OnePlus cables, I'm not messing with these no name brands on eBay and Amazon trying to make a quick buck.
sirxdroid said:
With all these high power requirements I think we need to be careful what we buy. We know certain parts of the world will cut corners to make a quick buck at the expense of frying our hardware.
I'll stay with the cables that come in the box for now, until we have more choices, though I'm hurting for a cable for the car.
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I've tried compiling and researching as much info on the topic as I could. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-3-1-vs-usb-2-0-t3221676
Hope it helps, and if I left anything out, let me know.
Elnrik said:
I've tried compiling and researching as much info on the topic as I could. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-3-1-vs-usb-2-0-t3221676
Hope it helps, and if I left anything out, let me know.
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Absolutely! Thank you for putting all the work into it. Very much appreciated.
Was able to get my ORZLY 4 pack cables refunded given the recent USB C specification complaince concerns(they are currently shipped; hopefully i still get them? lol)
For Canadian buyers, found this:
Fanshop® USB-C USB 3.1 Type C Male to 3.0 Type A Male Data Fast Charge Charging Cable
on Amazon.ca $4.29 with free shipping
-Sorry cant post links yet: Product ID B016ZTAOG4
Quite enticing. Not sure how much I trust them. Will probably wait until more get released.
Jraphe said:
Fanshop® USB-C USB 3.1 Type C Male to 3.0 Type A Male Data Fast Charge Charging Cable
on Amazon.ca $4.29 with free shipping
-Sorry cant post links yet: Product ID B016ZTAOG4
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Those connectors look bulky. Could be problematic with a case on the phone.
Jraphe said:
Was able to get my ORZLY 4 pack cables refunded given the recent USB C specification complaince concerns(they are currently shipped; hopefully i still get them? lol)
For Canadian buyers, found this:
Fanshop® USB-C USB 3.1 Type C Male to 3.0 Type A Male Data Fast Charge Charging Cable
on Amazon.ca $4.29 with free shipping
-Sorry cant post links yet: Product ID B016ZTAOG4
Quite enticing. Not sure how much I trust them. Will probably wait until more get released.
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tempted. I need cables and adaptors like yesterday lol.
Please post if you find anything good for the car. Either a new type C charger and type C at both ends cable or a type C to type A cable that works well and doesn't fry anything. I have a Scosche 2.4A type A charger in the car which I think should be good enough provided I can find a good cable.
sirxdroid said:
Please post if you find anything good for the car. Either a new type C charger and type C at both ends cable or a type C to type A cable that works well and doesn't fry anything. I have a Scosche 2.4A type A charger in the car which I think should be good enough provided I can find a good cable.
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Look for a cable that states USB 2.0 and 2.4A charging. At least those will work with the car charger you have without frying it. I think I saw one by iOrange on Amazon.
Found it: http://amzn.com/B010VFFSL4
Read the review on that one too. =)
Elnrik said:
Look for a cable that states USB 2.0 and 2.4A charging. At least those will work with the car charger you have without frying it. I think I saw one by iOrange on Amazon.
Found it: http://amzn.com/B010VFFSL4
Read the review on that one too. =)
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Thanks! Does USB 2.0 really matter in this case if all I'm using it for is charging? I doubt these car chargers have any smarts in them to negotiate anything on the data pins, but maybe I'm wrong. I used charge only cables (from PortaPow) in the past with great success and from what I understand they only have 2 wires inside for the power pins.
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Thanks! Does USB 2.0 really matter in this case if all I'm using it for is charging? I doubt these car chargers have any smarts in them to negotiate anything on the data pins, but maybe I'm wrong. I used charge only cables (from PortaPow) in the past with great success and from what I understand they only have 2 wires inside for the power pins.
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Yes. As I understand it: The phone checks the cable and sees the 56kΩ pullup (resistor) built in the wire, so it uses the USB BC2.1 protocol over the Type-C USB 2.0 pins/wires to negotiate for the 2.4A charging. I pretty sure that's the process anyway.
To simplify it: The phone checks the cable for what kind of cable it is. It sees the resistor saying it's a legacy usb cable. It then negotiates w/ the charger using legacy usb charging specs to get the appropriate current.
I emailed PortaPow and they said they would have their *charge only* cables in 4-6 weeks. Both C to C and A to C. I pointed them to the Google engineer's reviews to make sure their cables are compliant and also asked them to put a slim USB C connector on them so that it fits through cases. LOL. We'll see what they come up with.
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Yes. As I understand it: The phone checks the cable and sees the 56kΩ pullup (resistor) built in the wire, so it uses the USB BC2.1 protocol over the Type-C USB 2.0 pins/wires to negotiate for the 2.4A charging. I pretty sure that's the process anyway.
To simplify it: The phone checks the cable for what kind of cable it is. It sees the resistor saying it's a legacy usb cable. It then negotiates w/ the charger using legacy usb charging specs to get the appropriate current.
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Thanks! Makes sense. I just hope it's enough to still add some charge to the battery while the phone is on running GPS/Waze and streaming music via Bluetooth. I faced a problem with my old N5 where the battery was going down while plugged in in the car, turns out the cable I was using (and thought to be of high quality OEM) could only deliver 600mA and the phone was using a bit over 800mA.
If an A to C cable can at least maintain the phone charge with the screen on, I'm OK for now until better solutions come along.
Little confused on what I need for my new phone coming Friday. Obviously, I have a host of Micro USB cables that I'd like to be able to use with my new phone. I assume there must be some adapter that is recommended.
I also need a cable to run from an Anker charger to my new phone.
Thanks!
Confused or not you really should spend some time reading through the other threads that are already here.
The situation has started to clear up quite a bit but all the info is already here.
I started to read through one of the threads but I just got more confused. Lots of talk about what wouldn't work and the one plus one cables being bad.
I'd be happy to research more on my own, if you could point me in the direction of a quality thread or post.
Thanks
Essentially, some companies are producing USB Type-A to USB Type-C cables that don't meet the standards set out by the USB Consortium (made up of Google, Apple, and many other tech companies). These cables that don't meet the specification could allow a device (such as your phone) to try to pull too much current from a charger, USB port, or USB hub and thus damage them. Worst case scenario, they cause a charger to overheat and start a fire!
SO, your best bet is to buy USB Type-A to USB Type-C cables directly from Google or any of the cables Benson Leung (a Google engineer) has reviewed highly. It doesn't matter if they're USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1 as the Nexus 6P only supports the slower USB 2.0 speeds and it's all compatible!
Are there any certified adapters or recommendations on something that converts a Micro USB end to a Type-C end? I'd prefer to just extend the cables I already have rather than replace them.
I sadly have not seen a verified adapter yet. You could take a chance on buying some that haven't been disqualified and test them with this app, and return them if they fail. Otherwise, some people are keeping track of verified accessories on this spreadsheet and someone might find good adapters.
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Are there any certified adapters or recommendations on something that converts a Micro USB end to a Type-C end? I'd prefer to just extend the cables I already have rather than replace them.
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I looked through his profile and all of the reviews he's done and none of the adapters have met specifications. You might be better off going with cables instead of adapters.
Thanks you were both very helpful!
All this info above is true. But just an FYI I've had my phone for about a month and only used the micro USB to c adapters (other than a couple times to test with the googled one ) since my case I got had the port too small for the Google charger to fit through and I've never had any issues. The charger or phone doesn't get any hotter or warmer. The phone does charge slower than the Google charger, but that's because the power adapters I'm using are about 1500mah bricks.
Just wanted to chime in that I was not able to get any of my microusb OTG cables working using an adapter. (2 different microusb F to usb-C M adapters purchased through Aliexpress) Perhaps I was just unlucky, though.
They seem to work for connecting to a computer. I also see videos from XDA's youtube channel where they use one of those adapters for connecting a 6p to a computer.
Strangely, one of the adapters shows that it's compliant through the aforementioned app!
The cables/adapters that are out of specification can work fine; but it all depends on how your devices, chargers, and hubs handle the incorrect cable. While you might get lucky and it'll work fine, you might also get unlucky!
Why take a chance? And why support companies that don't follow the rules?
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Why take a chance? And why support companies that don't follow the rules?
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This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
Elnrik said:
This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
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While I went for the certified cables, most complain because we're spending 10+ on a cable we're used to buying for 4 or 5 bucks... For the longer cord.
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This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
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Yes you have a valid point except that there are no certified adapters yet as far as I know. Which means for someone like me it's not about money, but it's about being able to use micro USB still since practically every other devices I have uses that still. Ie tablet, controllers, remotes.
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Yes you have a valid point except that there are no certified adapters yet as far as I know. Which means for someone like me it's not about money, but it's about being able to use micro USB still since practically every other devices I have uses that still. Ie tablet, controllers, remotes.
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So it about not wanting to carry 1 extra cable? I don't see that being a big deal at all.
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So it about not wanting to carry 1 extra cable? I don't see that being a big deal at all.
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We all have different scenarios. I like to have at minimum a charger in car, bedroom, living room, computer desk, bathroom with shower, work, kitchen and battery pack in backpack. I'm not carrying around an extra cable for each place.
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We all have different scenarios. I like to have at minimum a charger in car, bedroom, living room, computer desk, bathroom with shower, work, kitchen and battery pack in backpack. I'm not carrying around an extra cable for each place.
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I know where you are coming from, that's one of the reasons why I sold all of my mirco USB phones/tablets (my Nexus 6 and Shield Tablet LTE). I have 1 good USB-A to USB-C cable 2 USB C-C wall chargers, and a USB C battery pack along with 4 C-C cables.
Sill looking for good replacement USB C wall chargers. Anybody got a lock on some good quality ones?
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Sill looking for good replacement USB C wall chargers. Anybody got a lock on some good quality ones?
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I have a feeling that the Google chargers will be the best quality ones you can get. I have both of the Google chargers - the single port and dual port - and have had great results with both.
I saw a few type c chargers from chotech on amazon.com the other day. No clue if they are any good though.
Ewto16 said:
Little confused on what I need for my new phone coming Friday. Obviously, I have a host of Micro USB cables that I'd like to be able to use with my new phone. I assume there must be some adapter that is recommended.
I also need a cable to run from an Anker charger to my new phone.
Thanks!
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Please refer to these 2 OP's for certified Type-C and Type-A to Type-C cables and discussion:
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/usb-type-c-cables-reviewed-google-t3240861
2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/benson-leung-verified-usb-c-cables-t3245685
usb-a to usb-c 6ft cable for $12.99. im sure someone could find a coupon.. make it less..
then the 3ft cable will be available on the 27th.. for $9.99
These cables are Verified..
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13814
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usb-a to usb-c 6ft cable for $12.99. im sure someone could find a coupon.. make it less..
then the 3ft cable will be available on the 27th.. for $9.99
These cables are Verified..
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13814
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Who said they are verified? I don't see anything on their page referring to it being verified or that is it uses 56k' pullup to Vbus, which is the big thing most cables have wrong.
Big Cam said:
Who said they are verified? I don't see anything on their page referring to it being verified or that is it uses 56k' pullup to Vbus, which is the big thing most cables have wrong.
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Not my spreadsheet, but here's a list of cables, chargers, etc approved and not approved:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
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Who said they are verified? I don't see anything on their page referring to it being verified or that is it uses 56k' pullup to Vbus, which is the big thing most cables have wrong.
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This. Only buying verified stuff.
I actually thought that Benson had said the monoprice cables were verified, I could be wrong though
He did.
So, if a USB cable isn't verified (or approved), can this be harmful to your phone? Or do they just not work as well?
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So, if a USB cable isn't verified (or approved), can this be harmful to your phone? Or do they just not work as well?
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non-verified cables can't shake hands on both end properly. USB type c port on phone end wants 3A pull and non-verified cable will demand 3A from the adapter since that's how it's interpreting from the phone. so if your adapter can only pull 1A or 1.5.. or anything under 3A will start to stress out and risk damaging adapter. if the cable is very very bad then it will convert most of currents to heat and might also damage the phone end as well due to the heat. the key is 56k ohms resister.
i'm no electrical engineer, so experts can correct me if i'm wrong.
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Who said they are verified? I don't see anything on their page referring to it being verified or that is it uses 56k' pullup to Vbus, which is the big thing most cables have wrong.
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Benson Leung [email protected]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
monoprice cable got here.. they work great.. test with CheckR app.. they pass the test..
got some Cable Matters type-c cables that didnt pass the checkR test.. going to return them..
I'm sorry if there's another post about this but I haven't found one, anyway I see there's a lot of different cables that don't offer rapid charging.
Has anyone found any other charger rather then the OEM that comes with the brick and cable that actually does fast charging.
Every cable I see on Amazon doesn't support rapid charging and I'm not a big fan of the Google one that doesn't come apart.
Again sorry if this has been asked just looking for any recommendations.
Thanks.
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I'm sorry if there's another post about this but I haven't found one, anyway I see there's a lot of different cables that don't offer rapid charging.
Has anyone found any other charger rather then the OEM that comes with the brick and cable that actually does fast charging.
Every cable I see on Amazon doesn't support rapid charging and I'm not a big fan of the Google one that doesn't come apart.
Again sorry if this has been asked just looking for any recommendations.
Thanks.
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http://goo.gl/smKWxI
Resources:
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung
Reviewed cables: https://plus.google.com/collection/s0Inv
USB Type C Explained: https://plus.google.com/collection/0Vdov
http://amzn.com/B019C23ZGW
http://amzn.com/B017I7EX46
http://www.monoprice.com/search/index/?keyword=usb type c
http://amzn.com/B00ZE36WH8
etc...
Soooo
This
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017I7EX46/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1NCVKF8LXGAA9
With any type c cable will provide rapid charging?
Soooo
This
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017I7EX46/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1NCVKF8LXGAA9
With any type c cable will provide rapid charging?
David522d said:
Soooo
This
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017I7EX46/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1NCVKF8LXGAA9
With any type c cable will provide rapid charging?
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To be candid, I suggest the products on the Google Store. You know what you're getting is going to work, it follows USB specifications, and is backed by some ridiculously great customer service. Not only that, but you don't have to purchase a separate cable.
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_dual_port_charger
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_charger
Elnrik said:
To be candid, I suggest the products on the Google Store. You know what you're getting is going to work, it follows USB specifications, and is backed by some ridiculously great customer service. Not only that, but you don't have to purchase a separate cable.
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_dual_port_charger
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_charger
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Yah, I'm probably just going to that. Was just looking for a cheaper alternative
Thanks.