Hello, i didn't find any answer so here's my question :
ROM :
What's the differences between 2 customs ROM ?
I mean, i have seen like 10 different ROM based on the same android version but i don't see any difference.
Why shouldn't I stay on Cyanogen ? I don't get it.
Kernel :
I think i kind of understand the benefit on a custom kernel (overclock, maybe better battery life ?) but isn't it too risky ?
How does kernel compatibility work ? Is it based on an Android version ? Do 5.0.0 kernel will be compatible with a 5.1.1 version ?
Do you really feel the difference compared to the stock cyanogen one ?
And my last question will be : does cyanogen 12 (and 12.1) have OTA update or do i have to flash new zip every day ?
Thanks !!
GinjiBan said:
Hello, i didn't find any answer so here's my question :
ROM :
What's the differences between 2 customs ROM ?
I mean, i have seen like 10 different ROM based on the same android version but i don't see any difference.
Why shouldn't I stay on Cyanogen ? I don't get it.
Kernel :
I think i kind of understand the benefit on a custom kernel (overclock, maybe better battery life ?) but isn't it too risky ?
How does kernel compatibility work ? Is it based on an Android version ? Do 5.0.0 kernel will be compatible with a 5.1.1 version ?
Do you really feel the difference compared to the stock cyanogen one ?
And my last question will be : does cyanogen 12 (and 12.1) have OTA update or do i have to flash new zip every day ?
Thanks !!
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The ROMs might look the same but they're not. Features are implemented in different ways, plus there's a lot of unique code that you don't see which can affect many things, like speed and battery life. Also, you'll find that different ROMs have different feature sets. All in all it's up to you to decide which one is best for you, so have a look through them and pick one to test out. If you don't like it you can always flash another.
Custom kernels can offer extra features like overclocking, undervolting, fast charge while connected to a usb power source. There are risks involved, like if you overclock it can reduce the long term life of your CPU, undervolting too much will lead to instability.
CM12 (and 12.1) are nightlies which means there's a new build every day to update to (if you choose). You can either flash them manually or download via the OTA system. Not all ROMs have the OTA system.
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Thank you very much !!
Maybe i should dig more into the ROM's topic because their customs features are not listed anywhere.. That's too bad ^^
Do you know if all the gestures are implemented on CM 12 / 12.1 (not only double tap but all of them) ?
GinjiBan said:
Thank you very much !!
Maybe i should dig more into the ROM's topic because their customs features are not listed anywhere.. That's too bad ^^
Do you know if all the gestures are implemented on CM 12 / 12.1 (not only double tap but all of them) ?
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Yes, as far as I know the gestures are implemented, they have been on all ROMs that I've tried anyway.
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timmaaa said:
Yes, as far as I know the gestures are implemented, they have been on all ROMs that I've tried anyway.
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Thanks again !
How come custom kernel like Franco's one can improve your battery life ? I've seen everyone talking about it ..
GinjiBan said:
Thanks again !
How come custom kernel like Franco's one can improve your battery life ? I've seen everyone talking about it ..
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There are various differences between stock CM kernel and custom kernels, far too many for me to go into. Honestly though, the difference in battery life really isn't all that much. I never use a custom kernel and I still get great battery life.
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Hello,
I am using Nexus 5 on stock Android 6.0 Marshmallow (MRA58N).
I read that Xposed framework is finally working on 6.0 (as well as GravityBox).
So I decided to give a try, but I realized that I need to root my device first. Then I started reading about custom kernels. Then I started looking through all the great custom ROMs that are availble at XDA....
Which option is the best for now for Nexus 5? Are those custom ROMs really that good compared to stock 6.0?
So I can't make my mind, what should I do?
1. Stay on stock (bo-o-o-o-o-oring)
2. Root and install Xposed
3. Get a custom ROM
What I want - more customization, 100% stability, good performance, good battery.
Can you guys give me some advice?
P.S.: I have a lot of experience with custom ROMs, I installed a lot of that on my HTC Desire and even installed Android on my HTC Touch Cruise (that came with Windows Mobile). On my Nexus 5 I tried MIUI and I loved it, but every time I still comeback to the stock Android.
1 or 2 or a few layers roms like Chroma I guess (I didn't tried). CM based roms aren't stable enough for now.
Xposed and Gravitybox are at early stage so if you need 100% stability, stay on full stock.
Primokorn said:
1 or 2 or a few layers roms like Chroma I guess (I didn't tried). CM based roms aren't stable enough for now.
Xposed and Gravitybox are at early stage so if you need 100% stability, stay on full stock.
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thanks for a quick reply!
what about battery life on custom roms or kernels? can you actually feel the difference?
BazingaOG said:
thanks for a quick reply!
what about battery life on custom roms or kernels? can you actually feel the difference?
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Nope but you can feel it by using custom apps like Amplify.
Custom roms and kernels don't really help for battery life. FYI http://elementalx.org/the-truth-about-kernels-and-battery-life/
I have stock 5.1
this phone is very slow, recommend to install another rom?
DT2W feature?
I ve tried Lollipop Stock Optimized, SlimLp.. I search a rom on kitkat, lollipop, nougat, however, but fast and smooth, without battery drain.
I don't care customisation, I prefer performance and autonomy.
Any idea?
mpatate said:
I ve tried Lollipop Stock Optimized, SlimLp.. I search a rom on kitkat, lollipop, nougat, however, but fast and smooth, without battery drain.
I don't care customisation, I prefer performance and autonomy.
Any idea?
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if you dont care customizations, then latest identity crysis would be a stock equivalent Marshmallow ROM with security updates till last october. DT2w could be enabled by using Kamineri custom kernel for IDC ROM. both are found in the android development forum
Thx I will look for this,I don't know d2tw «feature».
Hi xda community, just got my OP6 and installed OB2 pie on it; it has been great so far, been getting 5-6hours of SOT and lots of standby time on it, but just wondering if i could squeeze a little more out of it. Now im planning to unlock and install custom kernels on it. I've read the tutorials and scanned different kernels.
Its not my first time on unlocking and flashing stuff, I've been doing this since i had the sony p1, but it's been a while (Galaxy s7 days..) since I've done this, and need a refresher. so i was just wondering with the help from you guys.
1) is 5-6hours SOT normal for OP6 running on OB2pie on stock kernel? i know SOT is subjective, but I've seen other going for more than that, or have i just been spoiled from my previous device which had 4000mah batt.
2)What kernel would you suggest in terms of battery life and stability? (Doesn't need to be boosted or overclocked, leaning on flash kernel and franken kernel)
3) if i flash a custom kernel now and oneplus releases the public release of OOS pie. Will updating reflash my kernel back to stock? Do i need to reflash a custom kernel again?
Hoping to hear from you guys and thanks a lot!
More power XDA
choobs95 said:
Hi xda community, just got my OP6 and installed OB2 pie on it; it has been great so far, been getting 5-6hours of SOT and lots of standby time on it, but just wondering if i could squeeze a little more out of it. Now im planning to unlock and install custom kernels on it. I've read the tutorials and scanned different kernels.
Its not my first time on unlocking and flashing stuff, I've been doing this since i had the sony p1, but it's been a while (Galaxy s7 days..) since I've done this, and need a refresher. so i was just wondering with the help from you guys.
1) is 5-6hours SOT normal for OP6 running on OB2pie on stock kernel? i know SOT is subjective, but I've seen other going for more than that, or have i just been spoiled from my previous device which had 4000mah batt.
2)What kernel would you suggest in terms of battery life and stability? (Doesn't need to be boosted or overclocked, leaning on flash kernel and franken kernel)
3) if i flash a custom kernel now and oneplus releases the public release of OOS pie. Will updating reflash my kernel back to stock? Do i need to reflash a custom kernel again?
Hoping to hear from you guys and thanks a lot!
More power XDA
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When you unlock bootloader, it will wipe phone. Second, I use and i am very happy with flash kernel. For me as a lite user on op6 on beta pie 2 with flash kernel, I get some were between 3 to 5 days on a single charge with sot of 6 to 8 hrs. Too me, this is good battery life. when updating, it will put stock kernel back every time.
MrSteelX said:
When you unlock bootloader, it will wipe phone. Second, I use and i am very happy with flash kernel. For me as a lite user on op6 on beta pie 2 with flash kernel, I get some were between 3 to 5 days on a single charge with sot of 6 to 8 hrs. Too me, this is good battery life. when updating, it will put stock kernel back every time.
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Thanks man, is it stable so far? Any serious bugs as like I've read in the thread?
Hey all the custom ROMers here. I hope you all are doing great. What ROM you are currently running on your P7/P7P and why? I'm pretty new to android root scene and looking forward to install custom ROM on my P7. Any answers would be appreciated!!
harkirtancr7 said:
Hey all the custom ROMers here. I hope you all are doing great. What ROM you are currently running on your P7/P7P and why? I'm pretty new to android root scene and looking forward to install custom ROM on my P7. Any answers would be appreciated!!
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Custom ROM and ROOT is difference
With custom rom, u will get more features which lack from stock, more battery life
With root u will have more control of system ...
hungragezone said:
Custom ROM and ROOT is difference
With custom rom, u will get more features which lack from stock, more battery life
With root u will have more control of system ...
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Oh sorry for the confusion. I'm fully aware of that but just wanted to know what people are using out there.
harkirtancr7 said:
Oh sorry for the confusion. I'm fully aware of that but just wanted to know what people are using out there.
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U can try yourself, it just depends on what u need, what u like
I'm on stock. In my opinion don't make sense to flash custom ROM on Pixel. That device is really optimized on stock. You never know when Dev stop development ROM. Yes... They always are sure never will be stopped. Many times I heard that and they stopped. I need really stable software to use daily. I used lot of ROMs. Even now official crDroid was stopped for 7pro. So I don't think so is good choice to flash custom if stock is enough optimized. Off course this is just my opinion.
krkhaha said:
I'm on stock. In my opinion don't make sense to flash custom ROM on Pixel. That device is really optimized on stock. You never know when Dev stop development ROM. Yes... They always are sure never will be stopped. Many times I heard that and they stopped. I need really stable software to use daily. I used lot of ROMs. Even now official crDroid was stopped for 7pro. So I don't think so is good choice to flash custom if stock is enough optimized. Off course this is just my opinion.
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I thought like you before
But battery life of stock p7 is so bad, i can't stay 1 day without charging the phone.
SOT is only about 4,5 hours. With evolution x, i have about 6-6,5h
Maybe it's the best thing that i want
I can't link the rom I use due to the rules.
wangdaning said:
I can't link the rom I use due to the rules.
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You maybe not be able to link it but nothing in the rules stopping you naming it. What people then search for on Google is down to them
andy242 said:
You maybe not be able to link it but nothing in the rules stopping you naming it. What people then search for on Google is down to them
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True, I am running Crooked. It is made by well known people, good people. I won't link as I said.
hungragezone said:
I thought like you before
But battery life of stock p7 is so bad, i can't stay 1 day without charging the phone.
SOT is only about 4,5 hours. With evolution x, i have about 6-6,5h
Maybe it's the best thing that i want
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Yes. Your sot is really poor and I can understand you switched to custom ROM. My sot is 8 hours minimum.
krkhaha said:
Yes. Your sot is really poor and I can understand you switched to custom ROM. My sot is 8 hours minimum.
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How can u get it with stock ?
you will not get any extras from custom roms if you switched from official system , users who have xiaomi devices with cutting edge specs but poor software like miui might do so , but you have all the things you want in stock android , you might flash custom karnel for more perfomance and longer battery life ,but stock equals stability and reliability especially for pixels
fly_hunter said:
you will not get any extras from custom roms if you switched from official system , users who have xiaomi devices with cutting edge specs but poor software like miui might do so , but you have all the things you want in stock android , you might flash custom karnel for more perfomance and longer battery life ,but stock equals stability and reliability especially for pixels
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Don't get me wrong, stock lack a lot of things that make your phone better function
you have magisk and its modules , you have custom kernels that improve battery life and perfomance , what do you want more than that , this can cover the extras you talk about , custom roms that are heavily modified than the rubbish miui skin is a headache , custom roms devs dont care much about tracking and fixing bugs , when you install custom roms you know that there is a deal , you get those useless extras , in exchange for stability and reliability
note , my words applied just for the pixel stock roms , not for third party rubbish like miui and oneui and their brothers
fly_hunter said:
you will not get any extras from custom roms if you switched from official system , users who have xiaomi devices with cutting edge specs but poor software like miui might do so , but you have all the things you want in stock android , you might flash custom karnel for more perfomance and longer battery life ,but stock equals stability and reliability especially for pixels
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I'll get from a custom ROM whatever I add to said custom ROM, which, agreeably isn't much over stock, lol
I like the minimalist approach, pitch black, system fonts/icons, and battery styles are the only thing missing from stock, as far as I'm concerned.
NepoRood said:
I'll get from a custom ROM whatever I add to said custom ROM, which, agreeably isn't much over stock, lol
I like the minimalist approach, pitch black, system fonts/icons, and battery styles are the only thing missing from stock, as far as I'm concerned.
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It works though, and I love it.
fly_hunter said:
you have magisk and its modules , you have custom kernels that improve battery life and perfomance , what do you want more than that , this can cover the extras you talk about , custom roms that are heavily modified than the rubbish miui skin is a headache , custom roms devs dont care much about tracking and fixing bugs , when you install custom roms you know that there is a deal , you get those useless extras , in exchange for stability and reliability
note , my words applied just for the pixel stock roms , not for third party rubbish like miui and oneui and their brothers
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No, no no, It is better on it's own, it just is, no question!
I have not done the hack for dm and then setting a kernel, no no, it just works
Crooked is pretty much stock with minimal changes, why we love it
NepoRood said:
I'll get from a custom ROM whatever I add to said custom ROM, which, agreeably isn't much over stock, lol
I like the minimalist approach, pitch black, system fonts/icons, and battery styles are the only thing missing from stock, as far as I'm concerned.
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krkhaha said:
I'm on stock. In my opinion don't make sense to flash custom ROM on Pixel. That device is really optimized on stock. You never know when Dev stop development ROM. Yes... They always are sure never will be stopped. Many times I heard that and they stopped. I need really stable software to use daily. I used lot of ROMs. Even now official crDroid was stopped for 7pro. So I don't think so is good choice to flash custom if stock is enough optimized. Off course this is just my opinion.
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I wondered the same thing.
Pixel devices are known for its Stock Pure Android experience.
I see know reason to install a custom rom on a pixel phone as the trade off isn't worth it.
A custom kernel ill probably flash one day but i really want to keep my Pixel Un-Rooted..