[HELP] To root or not to root - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I am using Nexus 5 on stock Android 6.0 Marshmallow (MRA58N).
I read that Xposed framework is finally working on 6.0 (as well as GravityBox).
So I decided to give a try, but I realized that I need to root my device first. Then I started reading about custom kernels. Then I started looking through all the great custom ROMs that are availble at XDA....
Which option is the best for now for Nexus 5? Are those custom ROMs really that good compared to stock 6.0?
So I can't make my mind, what should I do?
1. Stay on stock (bo-o-o-o-o-oring)
2. Root and install Xposed
3. Get a custom ROM
What I want - more customization, 100% stability, good performance, good battery.
Can you guys give me some advice?
P.S.: I have a lot of experience with custom ROMs, I installed a lot of that on my HTC Desire and even installed Android on my HTC Touch Cruise (that came with Windows Mobile). On my Nexus 5 I tried MIUI and I loved it, but every time I still comeback to the stock Android.

1 or 2 or a few layers roms like Chroma I guess (I didn't tried). CM based roms aren't stable enough for now.
Xposed and Gravitybox are at early stage so if you need 100% stability, stay on full stock.

Primokorn said:
1 or 2 or a few layers roms like Chroma I guess (I didn't tried). CM based roms aren't stable enough for now.
Xposed and Gravitybox are at early stage so if you need 100% stability, stay on full stock.
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thanks for a quick reply!
what about battery life on custom roms or kernels? can you actually feel the difference?

BazingaOG said:
thanks for a quick reply!
what about battery life on custom roms or kernels? can you actually feel the difference?
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Nope but you can feel it by using custom apps like Amplify.
Custom roms and kernels don't really help for battery life. FYI http://elementalx.org/the-truth-about-kernels-and-battery-life/

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[POLL] Stock with Xposed vs custom ROM

I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules. I was just wondering what everyone else prefers on their Note 3... Stock ROM with Xposed, or a custom ROM?
I have been using Slimkat on my Note 3 since I bought it. This week I might try out the stock ROM with Xposed to compare.
victorbrca said:
I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules. I was just wondering what everyone else prefers on their Note 3... Stock ROM with Xposed, or a custom ROM?
I have been using Slimkat on my Note 3 since I bought it. This week I might try out the stock ROM with Xposed to compare.
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I prefer Stock ROM with Xposed.
I understand why others love custom ROM but I don't need it
RandyBoyz92 said:
I prefer Stock ROM with Xposed.
I understand why others love custom ROM but I don't need it
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yes also
Same here, mostly running alexandr's ROM with lean kernel. Works wonders. But I can't understand why people buy this phone and flash aosp roms that turn the spen into a simple stick.
one of android best features to me ... is having a custom rom
but lately they all feel like stock with exposed enabled .... im still searching for a good rom to use everyday
rooted X-Note 3 knox 0X0
Stock rom with xpose especially Wanamp:good:
Tested lots of ROMs, if not all, that are available for the Nope 3. AOSP, TW based...
Best look, performance & speed - AOSP cannot be beaten here. And even if some FCs happened until I setup an AOSP, after that there's no hiccups, even on nightlies. Fire up ART runtime, and the speed gets to disgusting levels, but it's like a car, the faster you go, the more likely the crash.
Pure stock TW is ugly as hell, but coming from Samsung themselves, it's stable and everything works. And there ARE people who use the S-Pen every day. o.o
Also, it's probably the fact that I can't properly set up the kernel on AOSP, because the ugly slow TW gets me more battery life than AOSP. And I go tinkering with the kernel, and USB stops working, FCs, and other s**t. :/ I need to learn more on the topic, probably...
Currently, using Audax ROM with stock kernel.
make my own custom since i don't really use some of the function avail on other custom.
i vote for custom rom
when i am in stock note 3 the ported s5 apps doesnt work thats why i chose s5 ported roms as the note 3 dont get s5 apps or even the s5 uI samsung fault they dont care about there fans new phone produce throw your phone away cause you well get worse update - as i know 4.3 was better than 4.4.2 / 1-call record working without root - 2- camera performance better - 3- white keyboard - 4-not draining battery fast and ... a lot of things i may forget it dont forget the last update which introduce knox 2.0 which make towel-root useless - so tell me reasons not be in custom rom or you just stock with useless phone / i just losing faith with samsung update cause i know every update are getting even worse
I like using stock-based custom ROM with Xposed.
Someguyfromhell said:
I like using stock-based custom ROM with Xposed.
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+1
Stock better than custom
victorbrca said:
I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules. I was just wondering what everyone else prefers on their Note 3... Stock ROM with Xposed, or a custom ROM?
I have been using Slimkat on my Note 3 since I bought it. This week I might try out the stock ROM with Xposed to compare.
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Thank you for the subject.
Personally, I prefer Stock because it's official and custom rom does not give you a big advantage over the original with Xposed,except with the custom I can not activate screen mirroring.
Someguyfromhell said:
I like using stock-based custom ROM with Xposed.
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Me too! :laugh:

P6800: Wanna become a tester of the new Daniel's marshmallow roms but i have doubts

Hi everyone. So far i've been using Skyhigh 3.5 because this one was the most balanced one in terms of functionality, battery life, and others. It's been the only custom rom i ever tried on this rom.
But now it's laggiest than ever and i'm tired, and i don't rely on any valid warranty period. So, i'm ready to try it, as i heard that marshmallow roms are performing good and smooth. Really good news!!
Questions:
1- If i have the lastest TWRP 2.8.7.1 (the one i have), can i just install it over the skyhigh just like that? Of course, with mobile odin.
2- Will i see many difference in battery performance? I know that every full custom rom has worst battery life than, for example, a skyhigh.
3- If after a while, i prefer to go back to the skyhigh, can i just install it over the marshmallow? I ask this to avoid conflict with different bootloaders or different issues that i could find.
Thank you very much everyone!!!

Stock ROMs faster than Custom ROMs?

Hello everyone, greetings!
My question is are stock ROMs faster in loading and launching apps than custom ROMs
I'm asking this because I'm currently on RR 5.8.2 and I'm starting to feel that Stock 6.0.1 feels faster(sometimes).
What are your thoughts on this?
Yours Respectfully,
-Mackx
MackxtheAndroidGeek said:
Hello everyone, greetings!
My question is are stock ROMs faster in loading and launching apps than custom ROMs
I'm asking this because I'm currently on RR 5.8.2 and I'm starting to feel that Stock 6.0.1 feels faster(sometimes).
What are your thoughts on this?
Yours Respectfully,
-Mackx
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Hello,
You could give a try to LineageOS 14.1 ROM.
I find it better than the Stock 6.0.1.
MackxtheAndroidGeek said:
Hello everyone, greetings!
My question is are stock ROMs faster in loading and launching apps than custom ROMs
I'm asking this because I'm currently on RR 5.8.2 and I'm starting to feel that Stock 6.0.1 feels faster(sometimes).
What are your thoughts on this?
Yours Respectfully,
-Mackx
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In many cases, yes... the stock ROM is faster, more efficient, and more battery friendly. Moto might do a lot of things wrong, but they know how to optimize a ROM and kernel.
Yes, is better.
Is lineage os something better?
Stock ROM 6.0.1 is only faster if you are using another customer Marshmellow ROM. However Custom Nougat ROMs are alot faster than stock Marshmellow ROM. This is for simple reason that Nougat is better than Marshmellow. I have tried most of them and also I went back to stock for few weeks and I was feeling Stock ROM is working in slow motion as compare to Nougat ROMs . However battery consumtion and optimisation is far better on stock ROM as compare to any other custom ROM.
Lineage is simply nougat and stock is simply MM. speed-wise I would have to run a lot of tests to find out which is faster. I run Lineage because it works (for me) and it gets the security updates, which MM does not. Have no idea about RR.
chungomungo1 said:
Stock ROM 6.0.1 is only faster if you are using another customer Marshmellow ROM. However Custom Nougat ROMs are alot faster than stock Marshmellow ROM. This is for simple reason that Nougat is better than Marshmellow. I have tried most of them and also I went back to stock for few weeks and I was feeling Stock ROM is working in slow motion as compare to Nougat ROMs . However battery consumtion and optimisation is far better on stock ROM as compare to any other custom ROM.
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So you mean to say battery drains faster on custom Roms?
libert19 said:
So you mean to say battery drains faster on custom Roms?
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I think people play a lot more with their new toy (custom rom) so the display is on a lot more and this will kill any battery. It's not the rom, but the user.
libert19 said:
So you mean to say battery drains faster on custom Roms?
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Yes... That is correct
acejavelin said:
Yes... That is correct
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Given the same type of use I find that Lineage is ever so slightly better on battery than stock 6.0, but I would expect that as N is supposed to be ever so slightly better than M.
Example - daily use, I used to run stock 6.0 M down to 85 regularly and N is generally 90 or 88%. XT1540/US/ATT/GoPhone. There are days where I only run LinOS down to 97%.
current lineage-14.1-20170323-nightly-osprey-signed.zip with nano arm 7.1 gapps
libert19 said:
So you mean to say battery drains faster on custom Roms?
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Yes it does alot fatser on custom ROMS. I have tried most of the ROMS in this forum . Battery is best in Stock Marshmellow ROM. The only ROM which is closest to stock is nearly pure Nougat ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/development/osprey-aosp-caf-7-1-1-t3576936
Try this one has best battery life . also make sure you read Q&A on bottom of the page for further battery saving of above ROM Thread
Lineage OS is also a good for Battery as compare to most of other Nougat Roms https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/orig-development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-14-t3466246
chungomungo1 said:
Yes it does alot fatser on custom ROMS. I have tried most of the ROMS in this forum . Battery is best in Stock Marshmellow ROM. The only ROM which is closest to stock is nearly pure Nougat ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/development/osprey-aosp-caf-7-1-1-t3576936
Try this one has best battery life . also make sure you read Q&A on bottom of the page for further battery saving of above ROM Thread
Lineage OS is also a good for Battery as compare to most of other Nougat Roms https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/orig-development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-14-t3466246
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Do you guys calibrate battery after flashing new roms?
Hi All,
My experience has been a little different from others here. My phone usage is lesser compared to others in general. So I am writing based on that:
On Stock MM 6.0.1 on Osprey I used to get 4-5 days on a single 100% charge.
On Custom Nougat 7.1.1 (GzRom Tesla) with similar usage pattern as above I consistently get 8-10 days with a single 100% charge.
Also custom roms feel way faster than stock roms.
chinchin85 said:
Hi All,
My experience has been a little different from others here. My phone usage is lesser compared to others in general. So I am writing based on that:
On Stock MM 6.0.1 on Osprey I used to get 4-5 days on a single 100% charge.
On Custom Nougat 7.1.1 (GzRom Tesla) with similar usage pattern as above I consistently get 8-10 days with a single 100% charge.
Also custom roms feel way faster than stock roms.
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Wow that's a lot, can you link me to rom thread?
Edit : Got it
libert19 said:
Do you guys calibrate battery after flashing new roms?
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whart is battery calibration?
chungomungo1 said:
whart is battery calibration?
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A thing of the past... "Calibration" today is nothing special, just let the battery drain until it shuts down on its own and then fully charge. That's all they mean.
acejavelin said:
A thing of the past... "Calibration" today is nothing special, just let the battery drain until it shuts down on its own and then fully charge. That's all they mean.
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Thanks
acejavelin said:
A thing of the past... "Calibration" today is nothing special, just let the battery drain until it shuts down on its own and then fully charge. That's all they mean.
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Does it matter or not?
libert19 said:
Does it matter or not?
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Not really... I've rarely seen it make any real difference unless you have an issue where it doesn't seem to be charging fully or it's shutting down at more than 3%

What's the best custom rom as to date?

Hello Guys im gone here for a year and not customizing anything about my phone aside from being rooted. And because of being rooted we know I am not able to receive any software update so i got bored with it. so what are your recommendation with least or no bugs? should i go with updated stock or custom rom? my preference is good battery life and easy access. cheers!
GadgetHolic said:
Hello Guys im gone here for a year and not customizing anything about my phone aside from being rooted. And because of being rooted we know I am not able to receive any software update so i got bored with it. so what are your recommendation with least or no bugs? should i go with updated stock or custom rom? my preference is good battery life and easy access. cheers!
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Not many custom ROMs being updated now but Lightrom is debloated and very near stock. Forget about good battery life there's lots of things affecting it so there no perfect answer
I've been using the LineageOS 16.0 ROM for some time, it updates regularly. But being LineageOS it's not a ROM for you if you like the Samsung experience and apps.

Question Custom ROMs

Hey all the custom ROMers here. I hope you all are doing great. What ROM you are currently running on your P7/P7P and why? I'm pretty new to android root scene and looking forward to install custom ROM on my P7. Any answers would be appreciated!!
harkirtancr7 said:
Hey all the custom ROMers here. I hope you all are doing great. What ROM you are currently running on your P7/P7P and why? I'm pretty new to android root scene and looking forward to install custom ROM on my P7. Any answers would be appreciated!!
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Custom ROM and ROOT is difference
With custom rom, u will get more features which lack from stock, more battery life
With root u will have more control of system ...
hungragezone said:
Custom ROM and ROOT is difference
With custom rom, u will get more features which lack from stock, more battery life
With root u will have more control of system ...
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Oh sorry for the confusion. I'm fully aware of that but just wanted to know what people are using out there.
harkirtancr7 said:
Oh sorry for the confusion. I'm fully aware of that but just wanted to know what people are using out there.
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U can try yourself, it just depends on what u need, what u like
I'm on stock. In my opinion don't make sense to flash custom ROM on Pixel. That device is really optimized on stock. You never know when Dev stop development ROM. Yes... They always are sure never will be stopped. Many times I heard that and they stopped. I need really stable software to use daily. I used lot of ROMs. Even now official crDroid was stopped for 7pro. So I don't think so is good choice to flash custom if stock is enough optimized. Off course this is just my opinion.
krkhaha said:
I'm on stock. In my opinion don't make sense to flash custom ROM on Pixel. That device is really optimized on stock. You never know when Dev stop development ROM. Yes... They always are sure never will be stopped. Many times I heard that and they stopped. I need really stable software to use daily. I used lot of ROMs. Even now official crDroid was stopped for 7pro. So I don't think so is good choice to flash custom if stock is enough optimized. Off course this is just my opinion.
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I thought like you before
But battery life of stock p7 is so bad, i can't stay 1 day without charging the phone.
SOT is only about 4,5 hours. With evolution x, i have about 6-6,5h
Maybe it's the best thing that i want
I can't link the rom I use due to the rules.
wangdaning said:
I can't link the rom I use due to the rules.
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You maybe not be able to link it but nothing in the rules stopping you naming it. What people then search for on Google is down to them
andy242 said:
You maybe not be able to link it but nothing in the rules stopping you naming it. What people then search for on Google is down to them
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True, I am running Crooked. It is made by well known people, good people. I won't link as I said.
hungragezone said:
I thought like you before
But battery life of stock p7 is so bad, i can't stay 1 day without charging the phone.
SOT is only about 4,5 hours. With evolution x, i have about 6-6,5h
Maybe it's the best thing that i want
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Yes. Your sot is really poor and I can understand you switched to custom ROM. My sot is 8 hours minimum.
krkhaha said:
Yes. Your sot is really poor and I can understand you switched to custom ROM. My sot is 8 hours minimum.
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How can u get it with stock ?
you will not get any extras from custom roms if you switched from official system , users who have xiaomi devices with cutting edge specs but poor software like miui might do so , but you have all the things you want in stock android , you might flash custom karnel for more perfomance and longer battery life ,but stock equals stability and reliability especially for pixels
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you will not get any extras from custom roms if you switched from official system , users who have xiaomi devices with cutting edge specs but poor software like miui might do so , but you have all the things you want in stock android , you might flash custom karnel for more perfomance and longer battery life ,but stock equals stability and reliability especially for pixels
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Don't get me wrong, stock lack a lot of things that make your phone better function
you have magisk and its modules , you have custom kernels that improve battery life and perfomance , what do you want more than that , this can cover the extras you talk about , custom roms that are heavily modified than the rubbish miui skin is a headache , custom roms devs dont care much about tracking and fixing bugs , when you install custom roms you know that there is a deal , you get those useless extras , in exchange for stability and reliability
note , my words applied just for the pixel stock roms , not for third party rubbish like miui and oneui and their brothers
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you will not get any extras from custom roms if you switched from official system , users who have xiaomi devices with cutting edge specs but poor software like miui might do so , but you have all the things you want in stock android , you might flash custom karnel for more perfomance and longer battery life ,but stock equals stability and reliability especially for pixels
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I'll get from a custom ROM whatever I add to said custom ROM, which, agreeably isn't much over stock, lol
I like the minimalist approach, pitch black, system fonts/icons, and battery styles are the only thing missing from stock, as far as I'm concerned.
NepoRood said:
I'll get from a custom ROM whatever I add to said custom ROM, which, agreeably isn't much over stock, lol
I like the minimalist approach, pitch black, system fonts/icons, and battery styles are the only thing missing from stock, as far as I'm concerned.
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It works though, and I love it.
fly_hunter said:
you have magisk and its modules , you have custom kernels that improve battery life and perfomance , what do you want more than that , this can cover the extras you talk about , custom roms that are heavily modified than the rubbish miui skin is a headache , custom roms devs dont care much about tracking and fixing bugs , when you install custom roms you know that there is a deal , you get those useless extras , in exchange for stability and reliability
note , my words applied just for the pixel stock roms , not for third party rubbish like miui and oneui and their brothers
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No, no no, It is better on it's own, it just is, no question!
I have not done the hack for dm and then setting a kernel, no no, it just works
Crooked is pretty much stock with minimal changes, why we love it
NepoRood said:
I'll get from a custom ROM whatever I add to said custom ROM, which, agreeably isn't much over stock, lol
I like the minimalist approach, pitch black, system fonts/icons, and battery styles are the only thing missing from stock, as far as I'm concerned.
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krkhaha said:
I'm on stock. In my opinion don't make sense to flash custom ROM on Pixel. That device is really optimized on stock. You never know when Dev stop development ROM. Yes... They always are sure never will be stopped. Many times I heard that and they stopped. I need really stable software to use daily. I used lot of ROMs. Even now official crDroid was stopped for 7pro. So I don't think so is good choice to flash custom if stock is enough optimized. Off course this is just my opinion.
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I wondered the same thing.
Pixel devices are known for its Stock Pure Android experience.
I see know reason to install a custom rom on a pixel phone as the trade off isn't worth it.
A custom kernel ill probably flash one day but i really want to keep my Pixel Un-Rooted..

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