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Hi all,
Has anybody got any of these? I have my old diamond 2 htc car charger and would like to be able to use it on the desire via an adapter. I understand most adapters only support charging?
Please post your experiences with any you have tried.
Thank you
The adapters shouldn't be a problem. They should have a full set of pins. Some cables only have the pins that are used for power.
BTW - someone is likely to ask why you are syncing your handset with your car cigarette lighter
indyjonesUK said:
Hi all,
Has anybody got any of these? I have my old diamond 2 htc car charger and would like to be able to use it on the desire via an adapter. I understand most adapters only support charging?
Please post your experiences with any you have tried.
Thank you
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i've bought some mini to micro usb adapters and they are great for charnging and sync as well. they are made in germany, delock is the manufacturer.
Have a look at my post in, "Not a Standard Micro USB power cable"
There is an adapter available from CPC in Preston (Mail order available, but don't know how much they charge) and also a couple of USB -> Micro USB leads available from them.
Also available, from Maplin is a 'micro' cigarette lighter to USB Adaptor to plug into your car which is quite a bit smaller and sleeker-looking than the one I currently use. For £5.99 it seems a reasonable deal.
bcmobile said:
The adapters shouldn't be a problem. They should have a full set of pins. Some cables only have the pins that are used for power.
BTW - someone is likely to ask why you are syncing your handset with your car cigarette lighter
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i sincerely had to laugh at that comment
The exciting features of the Nexus 4 just keep on coming. It seems it will support a technology called SlimPort which allows you to use the micro USB to connect the phone to a second display via HDMI, DVI, VGA and DisplayPort.
The only connector available at present is for HDMI, which also charges the device while connected. Other connectors are to be released in the future.
Info from Engadget.
EDIT: New review from AnandTech. See below:
In my Nexus 4 review, I noted that the device was the first shipping handset to include support for SlimPort via an Analogix ANX7808 SlimPort transmitter. When I wrote that review it wasn't immediately clear what advantages SlimPort offered over MHL, which has become relatively ubiquitous in the year or so since its introduction. Since then I've acquired the SlimPort microUSB to HDMI 1.4 SP1002 and VGA (D-SUB) SP2002 adapters from Analogix for testing out SlimPort on the Nexus 4.
SlimPort is a new video output standard which works over microUSB, and is effectively an MHL alternative based on the DisplayPort standard administered by VESA. SlimPort is offered both license and royalty free, and supports up to 1080p60 or 1080p30 with 3D content over HDMI 1.4 (up to 5.4 Gbps of bandwidth), in addition to support for DVI, VGA (up to 1366x768 and 720p at 60 Hz), and DisplayPort. What's different about SlimPort from a user-facing perspective is that external microUSB power is not required for the adapter to work and is instead only required for optional charging. At the same time, the adapters draw no power from the source to operate.
I've spent some time playing around with the SP1002 HDMI adapter, which I believe is based on ANX7730, and the SP2002 VGA adapter, which is likely based on ANX9832. As of this writing, the Analogix SP1002 adapter is available on Amazon for around $30 USD. I haven't seen the SP2002 available online anywhere yet, however.
When connected to the Nexus 4, the HDMI adapter rotates the UI into landscape and mirrors the display just as expected. Resolution is scaled to 1080p60 on the Nexus 4 up from the panel resolution of 1280x768, which results in some letterboxing. As expected there's no requirement to have microUSB power connected to the adapter, I tested it with and without external microUSB power, all this does is just enable charging.
I posted a video review (shot on the Samsung Galaxy Camera) demonstrating the Nexus 4 doing mirroring with the SlimPort SP1002 adapter and received a query about whether the combo enables multichannel audio over HDMI as well. I tested VLC for Android with some .MKVs I had laying around with 5.1 AAC tracks and found that VLC will decode the multichannel audio and ship it over as 5.1 PCM to my A/V Receiver, so this does work, surprisingly enough. There's no bitstreaming support as far as I can tell, however. As an aside I was able to playback a number of 720p MKVs with hardware decoding checked in VLC for Android and 5.1 audio out with no dropped frames. The Nexus 4 seems to be a passable platform if you're looking to play the occasional 720p video over HDMI — provided you have the free storage for it.
I also tested out the SP2002 microUSB SlimPort to VGA adapter, which has a longer cable and correspondingly beefier module for accommodating the D-SUB connector on the end. I tried with a Dell G2410 LCD display and XGA resolution DLP projector and saw an output resolution of VGA (640x480 at 60 Hz), which wasn't quite what I expected. The SP2002 should work just fine with 720p60 over VGA, and I know both monitors expose the proper EDID, it seems as though the Nexus 4 just defaults to this mode. Just like the HDMI adapter there's a microUSB port on the back for optional charging, though the dongle doesn't require external power to operate.
Thus far I'm fairly impressed with SlimPort. I enjoyed discrete microHDMI connections on devices when that was the norm, though finding a microHDMI to HDMI cable was always the challenge. Later MHL seemed a step in the right direction, but requiring three cables to do display mirroring seemed like a bit much. With SlimPort I think we've finally arrived at something close to ideal with the standard not requiring external power to function. It will be interesting to see how SlimPort, MHL, and Miracast adoption fare in the coming year as mirroring to a larger display is in the cards as a convergence trend for smartphones and tablets.
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Charges the device while it's connected? That's awesome!
I questioned that at first as well. If you follow the link to the adapter and look at the pics you'll notice that it has a USB input. I assume this has to be connected to charge the phone. As far as I'm aware HDMI doesn't carry power.
Only TVs with built in MHL HDMI Ports provide power.
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I read that the adapter has to have a power source to work... I assume then that this additional micro USB input is to enable use with TV's that dont support MHL.
Nothing like this exists now? Intriguing concept.
Will this work without having the charger connected? It seems nearly identical to Samsung MHL adapters.
I bought one. It seems like the packaging said something about the micro usb port being optional if you want it to charge, but I threw that stuff away and don't have an N4 to test with.
I think the "HDTV Cable" on the SlimPort site is going to be a cable that's micro usb (SlimPort) on one side, and HDMI on the other without any power input.
I ordered one as well
Cant wait to try it
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Charges the device while it's connected? That's awesome!
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As funny as that sounds, that would actually be nice. I know it's not SlimPort, but I use a Monoprice MHL-HDMI adapter currently. It requires power to work. Unfortunately, it can't negotiate high current and the phone shows USB charge mode. But with the screen active, it ends up losing 10-100ma. I haven't researched the actual micro-usb pinout to see if video uses the usb data pins or what. If somehow it doesn't, I might be able to short them out and have it go into AC charge mode.
Or maybe the better MHL adapters actually do negotiation and do charge?
Either way, hopefully the initial feedback on the N4 is good enough that I can overlook the fixed battery and storage.
ziddey said:
As funny as that sounds, that would actually be nice. I know it's not SlimPort, but I use a Monoprice MHL-HDMI adapter currently. It requires power to work. Unfortunately, it can't negotiate high current and the phone shows USB charge mode. But with the screen active, it ends up losing 10-100ma. I haven't researched the actual micro-usb pinout to see if video uses the usb data pins or what. If somehow it doesn't, I might be able to short them out and have it go into AC charge mode.
Or maybe the better MHL adapters actually do negotiation and do charge?
Either way, hopefully the initial feedback on the N4 is good enough that I can overlook the fixed battery and storage.
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My MHL adapter charged my GS3 charged when watching the Avengers movie Samsung gave T-Mobile GS3 customers. It was a pretty slow charge, but prevented my battery from dying like it should have.
I think this would be a lot more appealing in dock form.
The cable+block adapters are always a bit awkward to connect up and actually use in my opinion.
Will an MHL adapter work? I was using one on my GS2 and want to know if I will be able to use it on my N4
the video on this page specifically says that no external power source is needed.
http://www.analogix.com/products/slimport.html
I tried mine yesterday
I works with no power at all
Although I must say the phone got pretty hot when watching a YouTube video
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Just ordered one of these Slimport adapters from Amazon since my Google order has just shipped. Reasonably priced and power is optional unlike MHL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK6HttbgTaI&feature=plcp
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I tried mine yesterday
I works with no power at all
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Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday but I can't get a picture on the TV, when I plug everything in the screen on the N4 rotates to landscape and the phone loses sound, all good so far. But when I select HDMI source on the TV I just get a black screen.
This is annoying because the S3 worked perfectly with the Samsung adaptor.
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Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday but I can't get a picture on the TV, when I plug everything in the screen on the N4 rotates to landscape and the phone loses sound, all good so far. But when I select HDMI source on the TV I just get a black screen.
This is annoying because the S3 worked perfectly with the Samsung adaptor.
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Is your TV set to the correct HDMI port?
Nexus4, Tapatalk
There are apparently 3 dongles out there being marketed with a male microusb and female hdmi output:
Can someone please provide clarity on which ones will work with the nexus 4? Specifically looking for someone to post results for example 1
1. Generic MicroUSB MHL dongle cable : these are sold on ebay and optionally have an extra female microusb on them for OTG or power. This one will NOT work on Galaxy S3 bc of pin change. Can someone report if this type works on Nexus 4? It would be the most affordable solution if so
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-Micro-U...748540?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e74de5c3c
2. Samsung SGS3 MHL dongle cable: bc of samsung pin change, this cable was specifically required for SGS3. - Reported not working on Nexus 4
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/09/galaxy-s-iii-incompatible-with-previous-mhl-dongles/
3. Slimport microUSB cable - Reported working on Nexus 4, but pricey
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG?tag=5336653508-20
So I went and did some research into this. Here's what I found so that others can avoid the issue that I ran into.
MHL is connection agnostic. It does not have a standard connector, which is both good and bad.
The original Galaxy S II MHL adapter was a 5-pin design. Samsung still sells it, but there is no point in buying it (keep reading)
Samsung HDMI Smart Adapter - $39.99
Later products, like the S3, Note II, and S4 use the 11-pin design. Samsung also sells an adapter for this, but again, not worth buying (keep reading).
Samsung MHL HDTV Smart Adapter (11 pin) - $39.99
For those using the old 5-pin design (or a monitor/HDTV with native MHL support and a 5-pin cable), Samsung sells a 5 to 11 pin converter, which is smaller than a thumb drive. This is worth buying if you already have the 5-pin cable(s). Otherwise, keep reading.
Samsung HDTV Adapter Tip (5 to 11 pin converter) - $9.99
Next up, Samsung now sells a universal kit, which is a combination of the 5-pin cable and the 5 to 11 pin converter. This is the best deal for those with mixed devices as it will work with anything, and costs the same as the single cables (best deal, this is why you kept reading!).
Samsung Universal HDTV Adapter (5-pin) w.5-pin to 11-pin MHL Conversion Tip - $39.99
Lastly, Samsung now sells the MHL 2.0 adapter. My understanding is that this will ONLY work with 11-pin devices, so mixed-device owners may want to stick with the 5-pin + converter combo. However, MHL 2.0 does a few advantages over the prior spec. MHL can only pass 0.5a to charge the device while in use. This isn't enough to sustain a charge in most cases given that the screen remains on, so the device will eventually run out of juice even when plugged in. MHL 2.0 nearly doubles this to 0.9a, which is enough to run and slightly charge the device in most cases. Also, MHL is limited to [email protected] MHL 2.0 does [email protected]
Samsung MHL 2.0 HDTV Smart Adapter - $39.99
Keep in mind that while the S3/Note 2 can use this adapter, those devices are not MHL 2.0 compatible, which leads to the other advantage of MHL 2.0. The S4, being MHL 2.0 compliant, can power the adapter, meaning that an external charger is not needed. For the S3 and Note 2, the external charger will still be needed, because while the adapter is MHL 2.0 compliant, these devices are not.
Here's some more information on the subject.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/03/28/which-mhl-cable-should-i-buy/
Do you have the 11pin adapter?
IamPro said:
Do you have the 11pin adapter?
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What I have is this:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-mhl-micro-usb-micro-hdmi-adapter-for-galaxy-s-ii-217883/
I'm guessing that I need this:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sams...59471&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+5+pin+to+11+pin
I believe so
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I believe so
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What you really need is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYX0Q-E31yk
I know for a fact that one works. I got mine on ebay actually, and was worried it might not be legit but it works for my s4 on any hdmi tv, without having to connect external power.
This is the one I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271221429430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Cheaper, seemingly same one and more importantly it says: "no external power source needed"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-2-0-AV-...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f272962c4
I know it sucks, but I've been through multiple adapters and had problems with all of them. Only a genuine s4 mhl adapter worked for me in an acceptable manner.
Updated OP with better information.
kudosmog said:
What you really need is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYX0Q-E31yk
I know for a fact that one works. I got mine on ebay actually, and was worried it might not be legit but it works for my s4 on any hdmi tv, without having to connect external power.
This is the one I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271221429430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Cheaper, seemingly same one and more importantly it says: "no external power source needed"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-2-0-AV-...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f272962c4
I know it sucks, but I've been through multiple adapters and had problems with all of them. Only a genuine s4 mhl adapter worked for me in an acceptable manner.
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eBay one works properly like genuine? 1080p at 60fps?
As far as I remember yeah. I'll plug it up again and test. I was more concerned with it working without needing an external power supply, which it does. I played a few games on it and it was working without any disconnects or lag.
I've also not tried plugging my ps3 controller into the extra micro port to see if it will work through it. I assume it won't, but I'll try it anyway!
my query with these MHL adapters is with regards playing back 24p movies. touched on this in another thread. most mkv movies are 24p (actually 23.976). does the MHL 2.0 adapter ONLY output at 60p? or can it also output 24p? if the MHL 1.0 adapter does output 24p, then bizarrely it may playback 24p mkv files better...
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...also, can anyone confirm that these 2.0 adapters do actually pass charge to the s4 while attached? i don't mean whether they need a charge supply to operate, i mean if they actually charge the phone on their own when connected to the TV? there seem to be conflicting reports on this.
whatsisnametake2 said:
my query with these MHL adapters is with regards playing back 24p movies. touched on this in another thread. most mkv movies are 24p (actually 23.976). does the MHL 2.0 adapter ONLY output at 60p? or can it also output 24p? if the MHL 1.0 adapter does output 24p, then bizarrely it may playback 24p mkv files better...
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...also, can anyone confirm that these 2.0 adapters do actually pass charge to the s4 while attached? i don't mean whether they need a charge supply to operate, i mean if they actually charge the phone on their own when connected to the TV? there seem to be conflicting reports on this.
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I can't confirm it, I don't have a TV that can do it but here's a list of the TV's that can supposedly provide a charge through the hdmi port: http://www.mhlconsortium.org/productlist/display-devices/
Normal HDMI ports won't pass power as far as I understand but an MHL compliant TV will.
Just thought I ask if anyone knows of a good quality mhl adapter to mirror to t.v.
Please let me know thanks!
ihateu said:
Just thought I ask if anyone knows of a good quality mhl adapter to mirror to t.v.
Please let me know thanks!
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The one you can buy from Samsung works. Keep your eyes open for a 50% off coupon.
you can probably get one from Monoprice.com pretty cheap. Just check to see if the microUSB end is a 5pin or 11pin. You may need to get a 5pin to 11pin adapter.
Confirmed a generic mhl adaptor will work with a 5 to 11pin adaptor. With or with out power cable. I keep a power cable on it because it drains more battery while playing
I had one that worked with my Note II and it works just fine with my note IV
So it looks like Samsung didn't mess with it this time.
I read some of the reviews for the Samsung mhl adapter ,lots of complaints about it not charging the phone fast enough and it stop working after a while. Guess I'll have to try it out thanks for the responses .
Do you need the 5 to 11 pin adapter with the Samsung mhl adapter?
I have the Samsung one and it's working great. It charges the phone enough so that the battery doesn't drain while the phone's connected. Don't get me wrong, the percentage may go up, but of course not as fast as if it were charging normally. And it certainly doesn't go down. So all in all, a worthy investment.
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I just ordered the MHL 3.0 HDTV Adapter from Samsung's store and I think that may be what you're looking for. Unfortunately, I can't provide any user feedback for it myself because I haven't received it yet. Probably will once I do.
I think the reason why the Samsung MHL adapter has been getting bad reviews, particularly for the Note 4, is because they're using the MHL 2.0 adapter, which supports everything from the Galaxy S5 and older.
The MHL 3.0 adapter supports higher power charging and should be able to support the Note 4's power demands, as well as display out 1440p video, something the MHL 2.0 adapter can't do.
I'll report back on the Samsung MHL 3.0 adapter after I receive it (hopefully Monday, ordered it just this morning).
I'd post a link to the adapter but I haven't posted enough to have the permission to.
Also, like previously mentioned, there is a 50% coupon code out there. Apparently you were supposed to receive this when you registered your phone. I called Samsung's store support phone number about this and they confirmed the 50% off coupon does exist and that it may have gone to my Spam folder. After I told her that I may have accidentally deleted it (I try to review my spam folder before deleting but it is HARD when you receive hundreds), she was happy to do the order for me with the 50% off over the phone. I guess YMMV but just throwing it out there because it's possible. People from New York City interested in this, your total would amount to $31.51 after tax and shipping charges (via UPS 3Day/$3.95)
Edit: If you haven't registered your Note 4 with Samsung, do it and you will receive the 50% coupon code minutes after registering it. My coworker just did it for his Note 4 and got the coupon code via email.
Have you considered getting a Chromecast? You can mirror you phone to your tv wirelessly. Best thing about it is it only costs $35.00. I've got 3 of em and use them regularly for my Note 4 and other devices I have...highly recommended
Do you need wifi in order for chromecast to work??
jdizzle316 said:
Have you considered getting a Chromecast? You can mirror you phone to your tv wirelessly. Best thing about it is it only costs $35.00. I've got 3 of em and use them regularly for my Note 4 and other devices I have...highly recommended
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art90262 said:
Do you need wifi in order for chromecast to work??
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yes, you need wifi, but its a really good solution, I love mine, I got 3 as well and they are very good and reliable.
KusMoG said:
I just ordered the MHL 3.0 HDTV Adapter from Samsung's store and I think that may be what you're looking for. Unfortunately, I can't provide any user feedback for it myself because I haven't received it yet. Probably will once I do.
I think the reason why the Samsung MHL adapter has been getting bad reviews, particularly for the Note 4, is because they're using the MHL 2.0 adapter, which supports everything from the Galaxy S5 and older.
The MHL 3.0 adapter supports higher power charging and should be able to support the Note 4's power demands, as well as display out 1440p video, something the MHL 2.0 adapter can't do.
I'll report back on the Samsung MHL 3.0 adapter after I receive it (hopefully Monday, ordered it just this morning).
I'd post a link to the adapter but I haven't posted enough to have the permission to.
Also, like previously mentioned, there is a 50% coupon code out there. Apparently you were supposed to receive this when you registered your phone. I called Samsung's store support phone number about this and they confirmed the 50% off coupon does exist and that it may have gone to my Spam folder. After I told her that I may have accidentally deleted it (I try to review my spam folder before deleting but it is HARD when you receive hundreds), she was happy to do the order for me with the 50% off over the phone. I guess YMMV but just throwing it out there because it's possible. People from New York City interested in this, your total would amount to $31.51 after tax and shipping charges (via UPS 3Day/$3.95)
Edit: If you haven't registered your Note 4 with Samsung, do it and you will receive the 50% coupon code minutes after registering it. My coworker just did it for his Note 4 and got the coupon code via email.
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I tried setting up chromecast using fox fi ( I don't have a home isp ) don't think its possible to set up without wifi.looks like a hard wired connection is the way to go.
Anybody use one of those HDTV adapters that have usb, sdcard spot and power area. It looks really cool.
Okay, so I finally got the official Samsung MHL 3.0 but I had to wait til I got back from work to test it out.
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Only tried it briefly, and it's exactly what I expected and yet kinda floored with the results after testing several wireless mirroring with my Note 4 lately.
If you need a video out display for gaming, where input lag needs to be non-existent, accept no substitutes, the MHL 3.0 adapter does the job like it's supposed to. I tried playing Secret of Mana with it and it feels just like normal console gaming. I don't have to play mind games with myself to convince myself that it's good because it is. Press left, you move left, right there and then.
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EDIT: I wrote the above earlier but I need to change my opinion on that after trying the adapter for a longer period of time. There *IS* STILL lag with the MHL 3 adapter. It's much shorter lag than any wireless solution for sure though... I'm talking in the microseconds BUT it's still noticeable enough to affect your experience. This was evident to me when I was playing Sonic The Hedgehog and depended on precision input to make jumps and avoid spikes and pits. At first I thought I was just playing real bad, but when I was playing while looking at the phone's screen instead of the TV I did just fine. I think it might be a framerate issue when projected to the TV. The gameplay just feels slower, inputs feel heavier. If you have a Game mode on your TV it will definitely help this issue and does lessen the lag, but the lag is still there. That said it's playable unlike with wireless streaming, although it's really compromised gaming. I don't recommend playing this way.
I can also confirm that Samsung's MHL 3.0 adapter *WILL* power up and charge the Note 4 while gaming (and I'm using a Dualshock 4 bluetooth controller too) when used with the stock charger. No charger is included with the adapter. No HDMI cable is included with the adapter either. You'll need to supply both on your own. If your TV has a 1.0A USB port or higher, it will also be able to charge your phone. 0.5A USB ports though (on older TVs) will NOT have enough power to keep up with the Note 4.
I was worried about the width of the adapter's USB connector since I use a case for my Note 4, but I'm happy to report that it will still be able to connect without the need to remove the case. I did have to wedge it in to get a secure connection to the microUSB port but it will fit. For reference, I'm using a Tech21 Classic Mesh case.
If you want to stream video, don't want to worry about dropped signal connections, and do not mind a (what frankly feels ancient now) tethered setup, this adapter will also do the job for you. Just be careful to get the MHL 3.0 adapter and NOT the MHL 2.0 adapter. The 2.0 adapter won't be able to keep up with the Note 4's battery discharge even when it's connected to a power adapter.
Beware though, if you're powering the adapter using the TV's USB port, it will NOT keep up with the Note 4's discharge it is an old tv because it most likely has a 0.5A USB port. If you use the charger included with your phone though you will be fine. It's not fast charging but it will charge your phone.
I can post up a YouTube video a bit later or maybe tomorrow.
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If you're in the market for just video streaming, like previous users suggested, the Chromecast is a pretty good bet for now. Its specs are getting long in the tooth and there's rumors of a new version coming out in the relatively near future, but it still does an admirable and versatile for cross-platforming between Android and iOS if you own both types of devices. Since the Chromecast is dependent on a wifi connection (it won't work on a wired-only environment) its reliability will vary from user to user. For example, the Chromecast uses only single band wifi- the 2.4 range. I live in an apartment with TONS of wifi connections and the 2.4 is congested enough to take a performance hit. Wifi connections perform way better on 5.0 for me. That's why I experience disconnects sometimes on the Chromecast.
For gaming, the Chromecast does an impressive job when screen mirroring, but that 0.5 to 1 second lag is still noticeable and just not good enough for action gaming. It WILL leave you frustrated if you attempt to try it, and you will play like you totally suck at the game too if it's an action game. For slower games or turn based games, it will just test your patience and tolerance lol...
Chromecast's screen mirroring for gaming still performs better than a miracast connection with a Netgear PTV2000. The lag on the Netgear was just a lot more noticeable... maybe a 1.5 to 2 second lag?
For wireless video streaming, I recommend the Chromecast over standard miracast from a miracast receiver like the PTV2000 because on apps that support Chromecast, you can sling the video over to the Chromecast and still use your phone to do other stuff, and use other apps simultaneously. It may be the closest experience you can get to Apple's AirPlay on an Android device like the Galaxy Note 4. With a standard miracast connection, it's strictly screen mirroring. You can't multitask. If you close the video player on the phone, it closes on the wireless display/TV.
If you have a reliable local wifi connection and just mainly do video streaming not gaming, I recommend a Chromecast over the MHL 3.0 adapter solution. Going wireless is just so much better than having your phone tethered to the tv.
But if you are gonna go for the official MHL 3.0 adapter remember to get the 50% discount from Samsung's store. I think that would make it the best going price out there (24.99+ tax&shipping) for the official brand adapter. I don't recommend getting it for the full $50 though. That's overpriced as hell.
With the 3.0 mhl you can mirror correct? I want to watch xbmc lol
KusMoG said:
Okay, so I finally got the official Samsung MHL 3.0 but I had to wait til I got back from work to test it out. Only tried it briefly, and it's exactly what I expected and yet kinda floored with the results after testing several wireless mirroring with my Note 4 lately.
If you need a video out display for gaming, where input lag needs to be non-existent, accept no substitutes, the MHL 3.0 adapter does the job like it's supposed to. I tried playing Secret of Mana with it and it feels just like normal console gaming. I don't have to play mind games with myself to convince myself that it's good because it is. Press left, you move left, right there and then.
I can also confirm that Samsung's MHL 3.0 adapter *WILL* power up and charge the Note 4 while gaming (and I'm using a Dualshock 4 bluetooth controller too) when used with the stock charger. No charger is included with the adapter. No HDMI cable is included with the adapter either. You'll need to supply both on your own.
I was worried about the width of the adapter's USB connector since I use a case for my Note 4, but I'm happy to report that it will still be able to connect without the need to remove the case. I did have to wedge it in to get a secure connection to the microUSB port but it will fit. For reference, I'm using a Tech21 Classic Mesh case.
With all that said, I can only wholeheartedly recommend the MHL 3.0 adapter for gaming-use only. If you want to stream video, don't want to worry about dropped signal connections, and do not mind a (what frankly feels ancient now) tethered setup, this adapter will also do the job for you. Just be careful to get the MHL 3.0 adapter and NOT the MHL 2.0 adapter. The 2.0 adapter won't be able to keep up with the Note 4's battery discharge even when it's connected to a power adapter.
Beware though, if you're powering the adapter using the TV's USB port, it will NOT keep up with the Note 4's discharge it is an old tv because it most likely has a 0.5A USB port. If you use the charger included with your phone though you will be fine. It's not fast charging but it will charge your phone.
I can post up a YouTube video a bit later or maybe tomorrow.
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If you're in the market for just video streaming, like previous users suggested, the Chromecast is a pretty good bet for now. Its specs are getting long in the tooth and there's rumors of a new version coming out in the relatively near future, but it still does an admirable and versatile for cross-platforming between Android and iOS if you own both types of devices. Since the Chromecast is dependent on a wifi connection (it won't work on a wired-only environment) its reliability will vary from user to user. For example, the Chromecast uses only single band wifi- the 2.4 range. I live in an apartment with TONS of wifi connections and the 2.4 is congested enough to take a performance hit. Wifi connections perform way better on 5.0 for me. That's why I experience disconnects sometimes on the Chromecast.
For gaming, the Chromecast does an impressive job when screen mirroring, but that 0.5 to 1 second lag is still noticeable and just not good enough for action gaming. It WILL leave you frustrated if you attempt to try it, and you will play like you totally suck at the game too if it's an action game. For slower games or turn based games, it will just test your patience and tolerance lol...
Chromecast's screen mirroring for gaming still performs better than a miracast connection with a Netgear PTV2000. The lag on the Netgear was just a lot more noticeable... maybe a 1.5 to 2 second lag?
For wireless video streaming, I recommend the Chromecast over standard miracast from a miracast receiver like the PTV2000 because on apps that support Chromecast, you can sling the video over to the Chromecast and still use your phone to do other stuff, and use other apps simultaneously. It may be the closest experience you can get to Apple's AirPlay on an Android device like the Galaxy Note 4. With a standard miracast connection, it's strictly screen mirroring. You can't multitask. If you close the video player on the phone, it closes on the wireless display/TV.
If you have a reliable local wifi connection and just mainly do video streaming not gaming, I recommend a Chromecast over the MHL 3.0 adapter solution. Going wireless is just so much better than having your phone tethered to the tv.
But if you are gonna go for the official MHL 3.0 adapter remember to get the 50% discount from Samsung's store. I think that would make it the best going price out there (24.99+ tax&shipping) for the official brand adapter. I don't recommend getting it for the full $50 though. That's overpriced as hell.
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Dude great review!
ihateu said:
With the 3.0 mhl you can mirror correct? I want to watch xbmc lol
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Yeah it can mirror. It's the only type of display out it can do. So your phone and your TV will be playing the same thing at all times. It's probably the most reliable screen mirroring option out there. But ask yourself this: Do you really want a wired solution?
For video streaming I actually prefer the Chromecast. It chokes up every now and then but the freedom of a wireless connection is so much better.
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I can see where the MHL 3 adapter has its uses.
If you need a portable HDMI adapter solution for on-the-go presentations or video-out to an HDMI display, it's for you. It's more reliable than a Chromecast/Roku Stick/Fire Stick because it doesn't need wifi to work. You'll just need to supply the HDMI cable. It can also run on the phone's battery without a USB wall charger and display-out for as long as your Note 4's battery can hold.
I DON'T recommend the adapter for gaming though. It's a shame. It's so close but it just comes up short to fulfilling expectations.
In the end, for me, I DON'T think the MHL 3 adapter is worth it. Its original price is expensive and my Chromecast can do the same things wirelessly and better, and it's cheaper.
Buy a Genuine Samsung one. No doubt, that works 99% of the time.
Can confirm, just registered my phone even though I purchased it on 11/17/2014. Immediately recieved my 50% off coupon for an item less thn 50 dollars. Convienently enough, the MHL 3.0 adapter is 49.99 Out the door for $30.78. Thanks you guys for the heads up about registering. Now to find a coupon for a discount on the VR headset, lol.
I have purchased and received the Dell Universal Dock - D6000. It works well with the Pixel C and Pixel 2 XL. I am sure it will work well with other Android devices.
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-universal-dock-d6000/apd/452-bcyt/pc-accessories
"Conveniently dock any laptop equipped with USB-C or USB3.0 ports with the Dell Universal Dock - D6000. You’ll be able to connect up to three 4K displays simultaneously."
This dock allows for multiple displays using DisplayLink technology with no lag. It also charges your Android device while being docked unlike other alternatives. I'm currently using this as a laptop replacement at work and so far it's been working well. I have a Dell USB keyboard and Dell USB mouse connected to the dock which both work well. I have also tested USB flash drives and USB external drives and all seem to be working flawlessly.
Things I haven't tested:
- Sound (speakers, headphones, etc.)
- 3 monitors (I've only tested with 2)
This is a great solution for those of us trying to transition to 100% tablet. There are a few apps that I require which don't reside on a mobile platform. For these, I simply use RD client and remote desktop into a Windows 10 machine to perform these tasks.
Please let me know if there are any questions or if you would like for me to test something before being able to make a purchase decision.
-slimshotty
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What is the experience like with 2 monitors? Do you just have 3 screens showing the same image (mirroring) or can you send apps to different screens?
With two screens, you can place different apps on each screen.
Watch this video:
https://youtu.be/RRBbg3sdfZA
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does usb tethering work with this hub?
Does not work with Vivo nex
Does not work with Vivo nex :crying:
are you connecting to USB-C, if so, does it share the display and charge your phone at the same time?
I got to play with a D6000 recently and yes it does charge & mirror the display at the same time over USB C. I only had 1 monitor tho so I couldn't see if/how the multiple display scenario works.
Any extra software needed?
I have a D6000 at work, tried to plug my Samsung S9 in. I can use the keyboard and mouse connected, sounds go through the dock, but i can't get video to come to the monitor. Is there a seeing our anniversary that I am missing, or is it the overly Samsung modified OS?
dan.hendrickson said:
I have a D6000 at work, tried to plug my Samsung S9 in. I can use the keyboard and mouse connected, sounds go through the dock, but i can't get video to come to the monitor. Is there a seeing our anniversary that I am missing, or is it the overly Samsung modified OS?
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You need the DisplayLink app to make this work.
Thank you, that was it. Works great now.
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With two screens, you can place different apps on each screen.
Watch this video:
https://youtu.be/RRBbg3sdfZA
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Did you actually get this working?
The Dell D6000 dock looks like a good choice, but it and other native USB-C DisplayLink docks are rather expensive, typically well over $100 even for used ones.
The older Dell D3000 dock also works, but since it uses a USB-A 3.0 cable, it does not charge your phone while your phone is driving the dock. Well, there's a workaround for that. My recipe is:
$15, https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B09PFQXJR3?th=1
MOGOOD USB C to USB C Female Adapter USB Splitter Y Cable
$8, https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09S2Y7Z5S/
JSAUX USB Type C Male to USB 3.0 Female OTG Adapter
c. $40 used on Ebay, Dell D3000 Docking Station.
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The key unusual bit is that MOGOOD "Splitter" cable. I'm not sure what it's really doing internally, but it let's you hook up an extra USB cable to charge your phone, while your phone is still driving the dock! In my brief testing so far, it seems to work fine. With the DisplayLink Presenter app installed, my phone displays on the external monitor, and says it is charging at the same time too. I have not actually tried any of the other features of the dock yet, like the Ethernet port, etc.
Andy-in-NH said:
The Dell D6000 dock looks like a good choice, but it and other native USB-C DisplayLink docks are rather expensive, typically well over $100 even for used ones.
The older Dell D3000 dock also works, but since it uses a USB-A 3.0 cable, it does not charge your phone while your phone is driving the dock. Well, there's a workaround for that. My recipe is:
$15, https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B09PFQXJR3?th=1
MOGOOD USB C to USB C Female Adapter USB Splitter Y Cable
$8, https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09S2Y7Z5S/
JSAUX USB Type C Male to USB 3.0 Female OTG Adapter
c. $40 used on Ebay, Dell D3000 Docking Station.
Dell D3000 SuperSpeed USB 3.0 HDMI DVI Docking Station With/ AC Adapter Tested | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Dell D3000 SuperSpeed USB 3.0 HDMI DVI Docking Station With/ AC Adapter Tested at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com
The key unusual bit is that MOGOOD "Splitter" cable. I'm not sure what it's really doing internally, but it let's you hook up an extra USB cable to charge your phone, while your phone is still driving the dock! In my brief testing so far, it seems to work fine. With the DisplayLink Presenter app installed, my phone displays on the external monitor, and says it is charging at the same time too. I have not actually tried any of the other features of the dock yet, like the Ethernet port, etc.
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I happen to have dell 3100 docking station and I'm thinking of doing the same setup.
I presume you are using Android phone?
Does it have any specific capabilities like display over USB?
Besmisa said:
I presume you are using Android phone?
Does it have any specific capabilities like display over USB?
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Yes, a Google Pixel 3a. No, no special capabilities. I just run the standard DisplayLink app from the Google App Store to make the external monitor mirror the phone's screen.
Andy-in-NH said:
Yes, a Google Pixel 3a. No, no special capabilities. I just run the standard DisplayLink app from the Google App Store to make the external monitor mirror the phone's screen.
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Great, thanks!
Is the app DisplayLink Presenter?
Besmisa said:
Is the app DisplayLink Presenter?
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Yes.