So I went and did some research into this. Here's what I found so that others can avoid the issue that I ran into.
MHL is connection agnostic. It does not have a standard connector, which is both good and bad.
The original Galaxy S II MHL adapter was a 5-pin design. Samsung still sells it, but there is no point in buying it (keep reading)
Samsung HDMI Smart Adapter - $39.99
Later products, like the S3, Note II, and S4 use the 11-pin design. Samsung also sells an adapter for this, but again, not worth buying (keep reading).
Samsung MHL HDTV Smart Adapter (11 pin) - $39.99
For those using the old 5-pin design (or a monitor/HDTV with native MHL support and a 5-pin cable), Samsung sells a 5 to 11 pin converter, which is smaller than a thumb drive. This is worth buying if you already have the 5-pin cable(s). Otherwise, keep reading.
Samsung HDTV Adapter Tip (5 to 11 pin converter) - $9.99
Next up, Samsung now sells a universal kit, which is a combination of the 5-pin cable and the 5 to 11 pin converter. This is the best deal for those with mixed devices as it will work with anything, and costs the same as the single cables (best deal, this is why you kept reading!).
Samsung Universal HDTV Adapter (5-pin) w.5-pin to 11-pin MHL Conversion Tip - $39.99
Lastly, Samsung now sells the MHL 2.0 adapter. My understanding is that this will ONLY work with 11-pin devices, so mixed-device owners may want to stick with the 5-pin + converter combo. However, MHL 2.0 does a few advantages over the prior spec. MHL can only pass 0.5a to charge the device while in use. This isn't enough to sustain a charge in most cases given that the screen remains on, so the device will eventually run out of juice even when plugged in. MHL 2.0 nearly doubles this to 0.9a, which is enough to run and slightly charge the device in most cases. Also, MHL is limited to [email protected] MHL 2.0 does [email protected]
Samsung MHL 2.0 HDTV Smart Adapter - $39.99
Keep in mind that while the S3/Note 2 can use this adapter, those devices are not MHL 2.0 compatible, which leads to the other advantage of MHL 2.0. The S4, being MHL 2.0 compliant, can power the adapter, meaning that an external charger is not needed. For the S3 and Note 2, the external charger will still be needed, because while the adapter is MHL 2.0 compliant, these devices are not.
Here's some more information on the subject.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/03/28/which-mhl-cable-should-i-buy/
Do you have the 11pin adapter?
IamPro said:
Do you have the 11pin adapter?
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What I have is this:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-mhl-micro-usb-micro-hdmi-adapter-for-galaxy-s-ii-217883/
I'm guessing that I need this:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sams...59471&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+5+pin+to+11+pin
I believe so
IamPro said:
I believe so
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What you really need is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYX0Q-E31yk
I know for a fact that one works. I got mine on ebay actually, and was worried it might not be legit but it works for my s4 on any hdmi tv, without having to connect external power.
This is the one I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271221429430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Cheaper, seemingly same one and more importantly it says: "no external power source needed"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-2-0-AV-...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f272962c4
I know it sucks, but I've been through multiple adapters and had problems with all of them. Only a genuine s4 mhl adapter worked for me in an acceptable manner.
Updated OP with better information.
kudosmog said:
What you really need is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYX0Q-E31yk
I know for a fact that one works. I got mine on ebay actually, and was worried it might not be legit but it works for my s4 on any hdmi tv, without having to connect external power.
This is the one I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271221429430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Cheaper, seemingly same one and more importantly it says: "no external power source needed"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-2-0-AV-...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f272962c4
I know it sucks, but I've been through multiple adapters and had problems with all of them. Only a genuine s4 mhl adapter worked for me in an acceptable manner.
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eBay one works properly like genuine? 1080p at 60fps?
As far as I remember yeah. I'll plug it up again and test. I was more concerned with it working without needing an external power supply, which it does. I played a few games on it and it was working without any disconnects or lag.
I've also not tried plugging my ps3 controller into the extra micro port to see if it will work through it. I assume it won't, but I'll try it anyway!
my query with these MHL adapters is with regards playing back 24p movies. touched on this in another thread. most mkv movies are 24p (actually 23.976). does the MHL 2.0 adapter ONLY output at 60p? or can it also output 24p? if the MHL 1.0 adapter does output 24p, then bizarrely it may playback 24p mkv files better...
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...also, can anyone confirm that these 2.0 adapters do actually pass charge to the s4 while attached? i don't mean whether they need a charge supply to operate, i mean if they actually charge the phone on their own when connected to the TV? there seem to be conflicting reports on this.
whatsisnametake2 said:
my query with these MHL adapters is with regards playing back 24p movies. touched on this in another thread. most mkv movies are 24p (actually 23.976). does the MHL 2.0 adapter ONLY output at 60p? or can it also output 24p? if the MHL 1.0 adapter does output 24p, then bizarrely it may playback 24p mkv files better...
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...also, can anyone confirm that these 2.0 adapters do actually pass charge to the s4 while attached? i don't mean whether they need a charge supply to operate, i mean if they actually charge the phone on their own when connected to the TV? there seem to be conflicting reports on this.
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I can't confirm it, I don't have a TV that can do it but here's a list of the TV's that can supposedly provide a charge through the hdmi port: http://www.mhlconsortium.org/productlist/display-devices/
Normal HDMI ports won't pass power as far as I understand but an MHL compliant TV will.
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The exciting features of the Nexus 4 just keep on coming. It seems it will support a technology called SlimPort which allows you to use the micro USB to connect the phone to a second display via HDMI, DVI, VGA and DisplayPort.
The only connector available at present is for HDMI, which also charges the device while connected. Other connectors are to be released in the future.
Info from Engadget.
EDIT: New review from AnandTech. See below:
In my Nexus 4 review, I noted that the device was the first shipping handset to include support for SlimPort via an Analogix ANX7808 SlimPort transmitter. When I wrote that review it wasn't immediately clear what advantages SlimPort offered over MHL, which has become relatively ubiquitous in the year or so since its introduction. Since then I've acquired the SlimPort microUSB to HDMI 1.4 SP1002 and VGA (D-SUB) SP2002 adapters from Analogix for testing out SlimPort on the Nexus 4.
SlimPort is a new video output standard which works over microUSB, and is effectively an MHL alternative based on the DisplayPort standard administered by VESA. SlimPort is offered both license and royalty free, and supports up to 1080p60 or 1080p30 with 3D content over HDMI 1.4 (up to 5.4 Gbps of bandwidth), in addition to support for DVI, VGA (up to 1366x768 and 720p at 60 Hz), and DisplayPort. What's different about SlimPort from a user-facing perspective is that external microUSB power is not required for the adapter to work and is instead only required for optional charging. At the same time, the adapters draw no power from the source to operate.
I've spent some time playing around with the SP1002 HDMI adapter, which I believe is based on ANX7730, and the SP2002 VGA adapter, which is likely based on ANX9832. As of this writing, the Analogix SP1002 adapter is available on Amazon for around $30 USD. I haven't seen the SP2002 available online anywhere yet, however.
When connected to the Nexus 4, the HDMI adapter rotates the UI into landscape and mirrors the display just as expected. Resolution is scaled to 1080p60 on the Nexus 4 up from the panel resolution of 1280x768, which results in some letterboxing. As expected there's no requirement to have microUSB power connected to the adapter, I tested it with and without external microUSB power, all this does is just enable charging.
I posted a video review (shot on the Samsung Galaxy Camera) demonstrating the Nexus 4 doing mirroring with the SlimPort SP1002 adapter and received a query about whether the combo enables multichannel audio over HDMI as well. I tested VLC for Android with some .MKVs I had laying around with 5.1 AAC tracks and found that VLC will decode the multichannel audio and ship it over as 5.1 PCM to my A/V Receiver, so this does work, surprisingly enough. There's no bitstreaming support as far as I can tell, however. As an aside I was able to playback a number of 720p MKVs with hardware decoding checked in VLC for Android and 5.1 audio out with no dropped frames. The Nexus 4 seems to be a passable platform if you're looking to play the occasional 720p video over HDMI — provided you have the free storage for it.
I also tested out the SP2002 microUSB SlimPort to VGA adapter, which has a longer cable and correspondingly beefier module for accommodating the D-SUB connector on the end. I tried with a Dell G2410 LCD display and XGA resolution DLP projector and saw an output resolution of VGA (640x480 at 60 Hz), which wasn't quite what I expected. The SP2002 should work just fine with 720p60 over VGA, and I know both monitors expose the proper EDID, it seems as though the Nexus 4 just defaults to this mode. Just like the HDMI adapter there's a microUSB port on the back for optional charging, though the dongle doesn't require external power to operate.
Thus far I'm fairly impressed with SlimPort. I enjoyed discrete microHDMI connections on devices when that was the norm, though finding a microHDMI to HDMI cable was always the challenge. Later MHL seemed a step in the right direction, but requiring three cables to do display mirroring seemed like a bit much. With SlimPort I think we've finally arrived at something close to ideal with the standard not requiring external power to function. It will be interesting to see how SlimPort, MHL, and Miracast adoption fare in the coming year as mirroring to a larger display is in the cards as a convergence trend for smartphones and tablets.
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Charges the device while it's connected? That's awesome!
I questioned that at first as well. If you follow the link to the adapter and look at the pics you'll notice that it has a USB input. I assume this has to be connected to charge the phone. As far as I'm aware HDMI doesn't carry power.
Only TVs with built in MHL HDMI Ports provide power.
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I read that the adapter has to have a power source to work... I assume then that this additional micro USB input is to enable use with TV's that dont support MHL.
Nothing like this exists now? Intriguing concept.
Will this work without having the charger connected? It seems nearly identical to Samsung MHL adapters.
I bought one. It seems like the packaging said something about the micro usb port being optional if you want it to charge, but I threw that stuff away and don't have an N4 to test with.
I think the "HDTV Cable" on the SlimPort site is going to be a cable that's micro usb (SlimPort) on one side, and HDMI on the other without any power input.
I ordered one as well
Cant wait to try it
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Charges the device while it's connected? That's awesome!
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As funny as that sounds, that would actually be nice. I know it's not SlimPort, but I use a Monoprice MHL-HDMI adapter currently. It requires power to work. Unfortunately, it can't negotiate high current and the phone shows USB charge mode. But with the screen active, it ends up losing 10-100ma. I haven't researched the actual micro-usb pinout to see if video uses the usb data pins or what. If somehow it doesn't, I might be able to short them out and have it go into AC charge mode.
Or maybe the better MHL adapters actually do negotiation and do charge?
Either way, hopefully the initial feedback on the N4 is good enough that I can overlook the fixed battery and storage.
ziddey said:
As funny as that sounds, that would actually be nice. I know it's not SlimPort, but I use a Monoprice MHL-HDMI adapter currently. It requires power to work. Unfortunately, it can't negotiate high current and the phone shows USB charge mode. But with the screen active, it ends up losing 10-100ma. I haven't researched the actual micro-usb pinout to see if video uses the usb data pins or what. If somehow it doesn't, I might be able to short them out and have it go into AC charge mode.
Or maybe the better MHL adapters actually do negotiation and do charge?
Either way, hopefully the initial feedback on the N4 is good enough that I can overlook the fixed battery and storage.
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My MHL adapter charged my GS3 charged when watching the Avengers movie Samsung gave T-Mobile GS3 customers. It was a pretty slow charge, but prevented my battery from dying like it should have.
I think this would be a lot more appealing in dock form.
The cable+block adapters are always a bit awkward to connect up and actually use in my opinion.
Will an MHL adapter work? I was using one on my GS2 and want to know if I will be able to use it on my N4
the video on this page specifically says that no external power source is needed.
http://www.analogix.com/products/slimport.html
I tried mine yesterday
I works with no power at all
Although I must say the phone got pretty hot when watching a YouTube video
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium HD app
Just ordered one of these Slimport adapters from Amazon since my Google order has just shipped. Reasonably priced and power is optional unlike MHL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK6HttbgTaI&feature=plcp
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I tried mine yesterday
I works with no power at all
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Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday but I can't get a picture on the TV, when I plug everything in the screen on the N4 rotates to landscape and the phone loses sound, all good so far. But when I select HDMI source on the TV I just get a black screen.
This is annoying because the S3 worked perfectly with the Samsung adaptor.
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Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday but I can't get a picture on the TV, when I plug everything in the screen on the N4 rotates to landscape and the phone loses sound, all good so far. But when I select HDMI source on the TV I just get a black screen.
This is annoying because the S3 worked perfectly with the Samsung adaptor.
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Is your TV set to the correct HDMI port?
Nexus4, Tapatalk
There are apparently 3 dongles out there being marketed with a male microusb and female hdmi output:
Can someone please provide clarity on which ones will work with the nexus 4? Specifically looking for someone to post results for example 1
1. Generic MicroUSB MHL dongle cable : these are sold on ebay and optionally have an extra female microusb on them for OTG or power. This one will NOT work on Galaxy S3 bc of pin change. Can someone report if this type works on Nexus 4? It would be the most affordable solution if so
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-Micro-U...748540?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e74de5c3c
2. Samsung SGS3 MHL dongle cable: bc of samsung pin change, this cable was specifically required for SGS3. - Reported not working on Nexus 4
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/09/galaxy-s-iii-incompatible-with-previous-mhl-dongles/
3. Slimport microUSB cable - Reported working on Nexus 4, but pricey
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG?tag=5336653508-20
Hi everyone,
Thought I would start a thread about what things people are using with their S4s.
A few findings of mine from today:
The Smart Dock works with the S4.
The S3/Note 2 MHL adapters definitely work
The S4 MHL 2.0 adapter works without needing a charging input plugged in and IS outputting at 60Hz
USB audio working, although some DACs not working that did work with S3/Note 2 (Apex Glacier not working for me, my HeadAmp Pico and RSA Intruder are)
USB keyboards/mice working with the S4, as they did with the older Samsungs
PS3 controller working over USB OTG (although mapping seems odd, have to try it in an emulator)
Ditto for the Xbox 360 for Microsoft controller (which required an app on older Samsungs in order to work)
Interesting, tried my Logitech F310 controller with it and it works too (it does not work with any other Android handset without USB/BT Joystick Centre, but here works OOTB). The F710 probably works too in that case.
BT keyboard and mouse working, as expected.
IR blaster via the inbuilt app works great with my LG TV.
Logitech F710 works too.
MHL and USB OTG do not work together using the new MHL 2.0 adapter for the S4.
NTFS formatted drives still don't work on stock ROMs. Shame since my Padfone Infinity has it OOTB.
Moga Pro gamepad working well
Tried an ethernet adapter yesterday evening: no-go. Need to check its documentation again because I suspect it requires driver installation. Have order a couple of driverless ethernet adapters that are confirmed to work with several Android tablets and will give them a go when they arrive.
Additional info on ethernet: can pretty much definitively say ethernet is not working I think. Tried today with a new adapter (that works perfectly on the Padfone Infinity in phone and pad modes, since I tried that first), does not work with S4 with or without an externally powered USB hub.
Will chime in with more when I have a chance to try more stuff out.
On the s4 MHL adapter: I find it amazing that the hdmi can carry plenty of juice to keep the s4 and the MHL adapter topped up on power. The knock off on sale at amazon still says to use external power.
Have you tried miracast yet?
BT Keyboard/mouse?
Hi, could someone please tell me if the Galaxy S4 and the new MHL 2.0 adapter allow HDMI and USB OTG at the same time using the micro usb port on the MHL 2.0 adapter? Very keen to know! Cheers!
testinguser said:
On the s4 MHL adapter: I find it amazing that the hdmi can carry plenty of juice to keep the s4 and the MHL adapter topped up on power. The knock off on sale at amazon still says to use external power.
Have you tried miracast yet?
BT Keyboard/mouse?
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First post updated, BT keyboard and mouse working as expected.
Not tried miracast yet.
IR blaster works a treat with my LG TV.
Definitely works without power with the S4, although it doesn't charge the phone at all used like that (unless of course you have an MHL-capable TV, I don't).
Hi NZtechfreak if you could test the MHL 2.0 adapter and USB OTG at the same time that would be great
delucz said:
Hi NZtechfreak if you could test the MHL 2.0 adapter and USB OTG at the same time that would be great
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As noted above, doesn't work. Only way to do that simultaneously is still the Smart Dock.
I have a couple of questions.
1) Does the smart dock outputs 60Hz or this is achievable only with the mhl 2.0 adapter?
2) Is 60Hz mode noticeably better?
3) Any slowdowns or delays, while mirroring the display?
Thanks in advance.
maxnik1 said:
I have a couple of questions.
1) Does the smart dock outputs 60Hz or this is achievable only with the mhl 2.0 adapter?
2) Is 60Hz mode noticeably better?
3) Any slowdowns or delays, while mirroring the display?
Thanks in advance.
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I need to spend more time with it to answer those, will definitely update soon.
Regarding slowdowns - found it pretty smooth, which was a relief because the Xperia Z lagged horribly over MHL.
UPDATE:
1) Does the smart dock outputs 60Hz or this is achievable only with the mhl 2.0 adapter? Only the MHL 2.0 adapter can do 60Hz.
2) Is 60Hz mode noticeably better? Yes, compared them directly today, found scrolling webpages and so forth noticeably smoother on MHL 2.0.
Used a Moga Pro controller with my S4 to play some GTA while mirroring over MHL 2.0, nice! Still playing around with the Moga, but enjoying so far.
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MHL and USB OTG do not work together using the new MHL 2.0 adapter for the S4.
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[edit]Disappointing to hear =(
I've gotten a lot of use out of this OTG microSD adapter. The native "My Files" app on the S4 instantly recognizes it as USB storage.
http://dx.com/p/c310-otg-tf-card-re...er-for-samsung-i9100-i9300-i9220-n7100-174106
My FiiO E17, works perfectly with the OTG and S4 . sadly my DACMini and DACPort doesn't work
S3 didn't work for the E17 .
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Disappointing to hear =(
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Yeah, only way is to use the Smart Dock.
Could somebody please test if a USB to Ethernet adapter works via OTG cable?
Cheers
man im confussed a lil, i never used the mhl adapter with my s3,but today i bought a mhl to hdmi adaptor i have a samsung 3d tv its from 2011 i think,anyway the brand is pipeline says worsk with samsung supports upto 1080p uncompressed hd video and 7.1 surround, i tried frist without the power plugged into it,wouldnt recognize even a input on the tv, plugged power in it saw an input i could select it on the tv but said check the power source or cable,is there something else i need to enable on the phone to work?or do i need to have a SAMSUNG adaptor?
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Actualy I just found out samsung uses 11 pin configuration so u need a samsung adapter
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app
Has anyone tried the adapter from monoprice yet?
i just returned the pipeline mhl to hdmi adapter and got the samsung one from best buy works perfect, 11 pins is a must
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onehitch said:
Has anyone tried the adapter from monoprice yet?
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does it have 11 pins?
just to add something ive used,i have the moga game controller that connects bluetooth works perfect,and last night i messed around with the mhl to hdmi adapter and had it hooked up to the tv and was playing games on the tv using the moga controller ran so so smooth felt like i was playing an xbox, i do have a question if anyone can answer about the mhl i have a yamaha surround sound,usually i use a fiber connetion from what ever device tv, cable,blue ray, whatever, so the reciever u can send hdmi threw it so u can take the device into the reciver and then theres and out to the tv to get the picture witch worked with the phone,but i couldn't get and audio to come out of my surround sound it came out of the tv but i want the surround to work,whats my best option any help would be appreciated
Imagine my surprise when I connected mine to my MS Surface pro. It was immediately recognized, nothing to install and I was able to browse contents of both internal storage and my microSD card!
Whats a recommended OTG cable to get ?
Hey guys u was wondering about getting a MHL 2.0 adapter. I mistakenly ordered one from amazon that doesn't work(apparently Samsung uses a different pin arrangement?)
Will any GS3 mhl adapter work but still need an auxiliary charging port? Or is there a specific MHL 2 adapter that I will need?
ragnsep said:
Hey guys u was wondering about getting a MHL 2.0 adapter. I mistakenly ordered one from amazon that doesn't work(apparently Samsung uses a different pin arrangement?)
Will any GS3 mhl adapter work but still need an auxiliary charging port? Or is there a specific MHL 2 adapter that I will need?
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I am curious as well, ran across the same issue.
maybe this will help.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=9716&seq=1&format=2
The Galaxy S3 and Note 2 MHL adapter works. It will not charge your phone while it works, but it works. To charge your phone at the same time, you have to attach the charger to the MHL adapter.
The MHL adapter for the S2 will not work with the S3 or S4 unless you get the 5 pin to 11 pin connector.
The S4 MHL adapter (which is twice the price of the S3 one) will charge your phone when connected to the TV without an additional adapter. It also has a higher refresh rate (60) vs the S3's MHL adapter (24).
The S4 MHL adapter is also backwards compatible, but still needs a charger attached to it to charge your phone at the same time.
It all depends on your needs and your willingness to pay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
this adapter claims to be able to do hdmi output as well as OTG at the same time.... anyone have experienced with such adapters? do they really work?
yeahman45 said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
this adapter claims to be able to do hdmi output as well as OTG at the same time.... anyone have experienced with such adapters? do they really work?
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Funny, I actually have. I work in a computer repair/data recovery shop and we have a phone in with a broken screen/lcd. Long story short is that the device did not work with the phone we got it for, nor my phone (Galaxy S5), and I know my MHL works on my phone but we needed KB/Mouse support as well.
It may have been a bunk device and we haven't requested a replacement yet, so If you try it out let me know if yours works, and when we get our replacement i'll let you know.
actually the seller replied to me and says that this cannot do hdmi and otg at the same time but apparently this dock does : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=ite...obalID=EBAY-US&ssPageName=ADME:X:ACME:US:1123
but this dock is not compatible with galaxy s5 ... i wonder why
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actually the seller replied to me and says that this cannot do hdmi and otg at the same time but apparently this dock does : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=ite...obalID=EBAY-US&ssPageName=ADME:X:ACME:US:1123
but this dock is not compatible with galaxy s5 ... i wonder why
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Actually I didn't see where is said it wasn't compatible with the S5, it only list a few year old phones.
Oditius said:
Actually I didn't see where is said it wasn't compatible with the S5, it only list a few year old phones.
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I asked the seller if it was compatible with the S5 and he said no
byransays said:
Funny, I actually have. I work in a computer repair/data recovery shop and we have a phone in with a broken screen/lcd. Long story short is that the device did not work with the phone we got it for, nor my phone (Galaxy S5), and I know my MHL works on my phone but we needed KB/Mouse support as well.
It may have been a bunk device and we haven't requested a replacement yet, so If you try it out let me know if yours works, and when we get our replacement i'll let you know.
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did you get a replacement? does it work with hdmi and usb host at the same time?
i received and used the same one adapter
yes it can do both at the same time
although i am not satisfied with the image quality of the hdmi output
...which one
Purplys said:
i received and used the same one adapter
yes it can do both at the same time
although i am not satisfied with the image quality of the hdmi output
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Which one are you referring to?
tamuin said:
Which one are you referring to?
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the one OP says:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
I can't believe there is no good adapter or dock that can do usb host and hdmi at the same time properly...
yeahman45 said:
I can't believe there is no good adapter or dock that can do usb host and hdmi at the same time properly...
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Unfortunately I don't think so, I used this:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lindy-73391-...6?pt=DE_Computer_Sonstige&hash=item462bc81bb0
with a s4, and it worked prperly, but when connected to s5 it doesn't even turns on. I think it is because s5 doesn't have a docking mode, in fact if you go in Settings-->accessories, there is only an option for sound on hdmi, while in s4 there were more (and one was for the docking mode)
I couldn't find anything that worked reliably and consistently. So I use the MHL for HDMI output and use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse...
timeToy said:
I couldn't find anything that worked reliably and consistently. So I use the MHL for HDMI output and use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse...
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This is a good solution, but I'm wondering why, since 11 pin connectors usually can handle hdmi and usb otg on the same time, why old dock stations for 11 pin device don't work?
using micro 3.0 for MHL and OTG
i have a SM-G900P and if i make a OTG and MLH cable through usb 3.0 do you think i could charge and use HDMI and 2 usb for keyboard and mouse. My goal is to make my phone like a mini computer on the go for my roms and movies
Possibly use the USB 3.0 Micro-b connection?
All my googling on this matter with the S5 seems to lead to one inevitable conclusion, the S5 won't allow for simultaneous MHL and OTG use, because the S5 uses the 5pin connector and not the 11pin connector (as the S4 seemed to). What I don't understand is, isn't the S5 using USB 3.0 instead of the USB 2.0 as on the S4? How could the S5 allow for faster data transfer rates and yet not be able to transfer more types of data at once?
Isn't there a way to utilize the entire USB 3.0 micro-b format (which apparently has 10 pins, 5 for backwards compatibility with USB 2.0 (except 5pin, and not 11pin), and 5 extra for USB 3.0 speeds) to use MHL and OTG and charging simultaneously?
feeya7 said:
All my googling on this matter with the S5 seems to lead to one inevitable conclusion, the S5 won't allow for simultaneous MHL and OTG use, because the S5 uses the 5pin connector and not the 11pin connector (as the S4 seemed to). What I don't understand is, isn't the S5 using USB 3.0 instead of the USB 2.0 as on the S4? How could the S5 allow for faster data transfer rates and yet not be able to transfer more types of data at once?
Isn't there a way to utilize the entire USB 3.0 micro-b format (which apparently has 10 pins, 5 for backwards compatibility with USB 2.0 (except 5pin, and not 11pin), and 5 extra for USB 3.0 speeds) to use MHL and OTG and charging simultaneously?
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I'm having an issue with MHL adapter on my S5, When I connect my MHL adapter to my S5, the audio on my TV seems delayed, but when I tried it on my S3, the audio is perfectly fine. Is this something to do with S5 having 5 pin only wherein S3 having 11pin?
I saw a 5 pin to 11 pin converter on Amazon, will this solve this issue? And possibly the issue of not being able to use MHL/HDMI and USB at the same time?
buy chrome cast you can screen mirror or use almost any app directly to the tv when it comes to videos and such theres a little allshare
button at the top of like the video player, you tube etc.
also a smart tv does the same thing only better (all the above scenarios will only work with a connected network)
what is wrong with the image quality?
Chromecast works for me at home or anywhere it has standard wifi, but is too painful in most hotels that use a web user login. Without net access it was almost useless last time I tried. I could pair with it, but it wouldn't stream local files from my device. Most places I've stayed in the last few years have an active HDMI port on their tv, so the MHL HDMI and OTG with USB wireless mouse on an S3 worked for me, even though I couldn't charge at the same time. Haven't been able to make that work so far with anything I've tried on the S5.
Still no luck with S5 docking (MHL+OTG)
Hello!
I've been using this adapter for a while with a Samsung Galaxy S4:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MHL-...or-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-S4-Note/32461052976.html
Charging, HDMI connection and USB keyboard + mouse works very nice.
Unfortunately no luck with S5. Not even charging works. I read S5 doesn't use 11-pin USB (because of the USB 3.0 plug, etc...). If that's true, then not even installing a custom ROM would make the docking work.
According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57336973&postcount=4, "the G800F is capable of USB OTG. It simply is not enabled in the stock firmware." I know this is about a S5 Mini, but wouldn't it be the same for the S5?
Do Micro USB to USB/HDMI adapters exist? Basically, an OTG cable with an HDMI split, as well. Please recommend a good one if you know of one that works.
I don't know of any myself because I haven't used them, but I believe they do exist. I remember reading about them before. though you'd need your device to support it.
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I looked it up, and it's not exactly HDMI output (which some devices do have), but they do have adapters for micro USB to HDMI - look up MHL
I asked that in general troubleshooting.
Note4 has a mhl 3.0 allowing it to output 4k resolution to 4k hdtvs. For now just content taken with it like photos and recorded video.
Ok, ive tested a generic mhl 2.0 and it didn't work (the mhl drive needs power to abs from the note4 so you have to have the 5pin to 11 pin adaptor on top of the mhl drive) but!
An oem samsung one (usually white) works out of the box. Retail 40 dollars on samaungs w3bsire. Amazon i think 35 dollars. Again the this on3 only works with the power cord to the drive.
But!! If you are lucky to have a samsung smart dock from the note2 it works for the note4. (When the note4 came out first staples was clearing out the shelves of the note2 docks users reported as a working wired dock to hdmi screen mirroring.)
Woreless? Chromecast...most miracast devices. And the new roku stick hdmi version work
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I don't know of any myself because I haven't used them, but I believe they do exist. I remember reading about them before. though you'd need your device to support it.
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I looked it up, and it's not exactly HDMI output (which some devices do have), but they do have adapters for micro USB to HDMI - look up MHL
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA
...and according to gsmarena.com the Note 4 supports MHL 3.0 - technically up to 4k resolution, but I've not tried this.
e: I've just bought one of these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00K6COMKG/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8&qid=1415275550&sr=1&keywords=mhl+patuoxun
...to test. I'll post a report when it arrives/I've tried it.
SquidgyB said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA
...and according to gsmarena.com the Note 4 supports MHL 3.0 - technically up to 4k resolution, but I've not tried this.
e: I've just bought one of these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00K6COMKG/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8&qid=1415275550&sr=1&keywords=mhl+patuoxun
...to test. I'll post a report when it arrives/I've tried it.
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Yup, works a treat.