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ATTN: Moderator

Could you please either add Nitros' and vjgrace's ROMs to the sticked theads at the top, or unsticky Andot's and Phil's?
Or alternatively, make a sticky thread for people to advertise their ROMs. Maybe the cooks can PM you the details of their builds and links to their threads for you to add posts to a mod-postable only thread so that it doesn't become cluttered, and questions and support for the various ROMs will take place only in their own threads...
Please understand, Andot's and Phil's efforts are excellent and well-respected but have somewhat lapsed in development and support and are no longer the most current or stable builds.
Yet the stickiness of their threads lends to newcomers jumping directly to those ROMs and consequently asking for help with issues other ROM cookers have already resolved...

Sticky Opinion...
I think we ought to replace the three stickies listed with one ROM MetaSticky that has links to the current stuck threads as well as the other ROM builds and some high level summaries on each build such as...
Who built it
When it was first released
When it was last updated
A link to the current thread
I think this would save a lot of questions. If someone wanted to be really creative they could write a summary of features or add a matrix with a feature comparison or maybe a poll for who is using that build.
Opinions?

I agree with unsticking the current two ROM stickies. The two authors haven't been around for a while, and the ROMs in the stickies haven't been updated in months. When, and if, Phil is back with a new ROM, that can go back up.

I agree. The two current roms that are 'sticked' are very outdated. The more recent roms should be there.

kkrull said:
I think we ought to replace the three stickies listed with one ROM MetaSticky that has links to the current stuck threads as well as the other ROM builds and some high level summaries on each build such as...
Who built it
When it was first released
When it was last updated
A link to the current thread
I think this would save a lot of questions. If someone wanted to be really creative they could write a summary of features or add a matrix with a feature comparison or maybe a poll for who is using that build.
Opinions?
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I thought that's what I was trying to say...b
Basically, each post of the thread would have the contents of the first post of the ROM's thread; but not the download link, just the features and version numbers...
I also think a nice ROM posting convention would be for the poster/cook to reserve the second post of the thread (just fill it with useless text or something) for a Changes Log.
It's nice to see that the original info updated, but many posts show up asking if x is still there or where y went...
But then again, it begins to sound like work.. doesn't it?

Exitao said:
I thought that's what I was trying to say...b
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Pretty much. I wrote the same thing before reading your post so I just moved my post underneath yours.

Are any of the moderators even paying attention here? Sounds like a bunch of us talking among ourselves...

I've stickied the 3 recent roms

kkrull said:
Pretty much. I wrote the same thing before reading your post so I just moved my post underneath yours.
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OK good. I was just worried that I wasn't understandable. Again.

meschle said:
I've stickied the 3 recent roms
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Yay! Squeeky wheel for teh win!!!!1!!!one

meschle said:
I've stickied the 3 recent roms
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Alright! Someone was paying attention!

Unofficial CM10 - IMPORTANT - Please Read.

As im sure most of you all know, I have locked the Unofficial CM10 thread. It isnt because of one person or one event, but something that has been coming for a long time. I have been stressing myself with this build and making sure that everyone was happy and doing pretty much everything i could do, but it didnt seem to be enough. While i appreciate the feedback, it is very disappointing to release cm10.1 when pretty much no other phones have released it (due to the lack of source merged and changes necessary for jellybean 4.2.1) and have nothing but post after post of this doesnt work and this doesnt look right and this is running horrible and blah blah blah even after i made it absolutely clear time after time that there may be issues since there is alot of source changes that are missing. You would think that since i took the time to merge the needed changes and work tirelessly to make changes and get the changes merged into our device/kernel trees to get CM 10.1 built and IMO running nicely, there would be alot of positive feedback and alot of understanding from the community that there may be little issues here and there since not everything was completely merged in on the CM side, but that was not the case as everyone expects perfection right and nothing else. Anyways, with that said, Building CM10 was becoming more of a job instead of something fun that i loved to do. And believe me... I havent had nearly enough donations to be ok with considering this a job... Nor do i expect alot of donations and for those of you who have supported me, I greatly appreciate it. I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.

scott.hart.bti said:
As im sure most of you all know, I have locked the Unofficial CM10 thread. It isnt because of one person or one event, but something that has been coming for a long time. I have been stressing myself with this build and making sure that everyone was happy and doing pretty much everything i could do, but it didnt seem to be enough. While i appreciate the feedback, it is very disappointing to release cm10.1 when pretty much no other phones have released it (due to the lack of source merged and changes necessary for jellybean 4.2.1) and have nothing but post after post of this doesnt work and this doesnt look right and this is running horrible and blah blah blah even after i made it absolutely clear time after time that there may be issues since there is alot of source changes that are missing. You would think that since i took the time to merge the needed changes and work tirelessly to make changes and get the changes merged into our device/kernel trees to get CM 10.1 built and IMO running nicely, there would be alot of positive feedback and alot of understanding from the community that there may be little issues here and there since not everything was completely merged in on the CM side, but that was not the case as everyone expects perfection right and nothing else. Anyways, with that said, Building CM10 was becoming more of a job instead of something fun that i loved to do. And believe me... I havent had nearly enough donations to be ok with considering this a job... Nor do i expect alot of donations and for those of you who have supported me, I greatly appreciate it. I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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you have a charachter flaw. you're a people pleaser. once you get over that and become a true asshole you will be much happier in life.

Dani897 said:
you have a charachter flaw. you're a people pleaser. once you get over that and become a true asshole you will be much happier in life.
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Lol! So true!
Sent from my SGH-I997 using xda app-developers app

Just wanted to put my two cents in...I've been an avid user of the roms from this site for quite awhile now & have never felt the need to register because any issues I've ever had,I've been able to rectify with some searching or have been on roms that have clearly stated they were beta's & expected to have flaws. That being said...after watching what happened on your infuse board, I just wanted to let you know the fact that you're continuing to develop & keep our phones updated with the best features gave me the first true reason to register so I could say thanks...
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Thank You.

I don't blame Scott for having the thread closed, not one bit.
And Dani is correct, Scott's character flaw is only that he's missing the "asshole" gene that some tend to have.
Now on to the good part...
I'm getting back into the swing of things as far as porting and development goes. My first attempt is going to be a nearly pure AOSP build using Aries repos and some Maguro/Takju code base, with parts from the most recent CM10.1 base. I have an idea of what I want to incorporate, but it should be light and clean, with a smooth interface.
Scott, I will be in touch with you shortly on this, as I need to finish and finalize my SDK installs and get everything going correctly for a first build.

Just checked Scotts goo link. Can I safely assume the development continues? If so hallelujah the infuse lives on.
Sent from my SGH-I997 using xda app-developers app

Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?

hattrickinc said:
Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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But Scott specifically asked multiple times not to post bugs on the 4.2/cm10.1 releases due to the fact that source is still being merged -cm said themselves that the 4.2 code would be buggy and that you probably wouldn't be able to build anything with it...for the most part Scott proved both of those wrong
However I do like the idea of the three threads
Sent from my HTC Holiday using Tapatalk 2

openwheelracing said:
Just checked Scotts goo link. Can I safely assume the development continues? If so hallelujah the infuse lives on.
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scott.hart.bti said:
I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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Yes, he will keep developing, but don't expect to see updates on this forum, which is a shame. His CM10 thread was actually the only reason I got on XDA.

Thanks for the update, Scott. Don't let the drama llamas get you down
Sent from my SGH-I997 using xda app-developers app

hattrickinc said:
Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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For the most part I agree with you. Its why I probably pissed a bunch of people off defending the late comers and those that just don't know about logcats and such.
However, it was stated multiple times by not just Scott but the more senior and knowledgeable members that the 4.2 was going to have problems.
I agree searching through 1000 plus posts can be a daunting task and maybe I just don't have a life but I've done it for every ICS/JB rom I've flashed.. But I was there at the beginning of that development so it made it easier. But you didn't have to read more than 2 pages between warnings for the 4.2.
I'm on Scott's side on this one.
If nothing else click on the op's profile and just read all their posts.
Personally I think only devs should be allowed to post on a dev thread but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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I agree. I think there should be a minimum post count of 100 and a requirement to agree to a separate 'contract' to post in dev. threads. I read dev threads to find out what's going on in development not the rubbish that appears in most dev threads. The infuse forums have been fairly tolerant of this kind of thing. Other forums on xda, much less so.
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Changelog
I think another part of the problem is that very little actual development discussion happens here. It seems that people release their stuff here, and respond to bug reports, but that's about it. You can learn a lot about Linux by reading the archives of the Linux Kernel Mailing List (LKML). It's not quite the same situation here, learning about android is much harder (i have yet to find an android equivalent for the LKML)
Anyway, Thanks for continuing development! Will you be posting a change log between releases? I just like to know what I'm flashing ahead of time
Thanks,
woody

Scotts just released CM10.1 on goomanager 12/10 build go check it out
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Scott,
Glad to see you will be still be developing. Will there be some type of change log somewhere that we can view? I agree with some of the past. 500 pages of posts to read/search is alot. possibly a better brake down would have keep people posting in the correct places. Also with the 4.2 merge MY opionion would have been to make a separate thread as the last 4.1.2 was stable and really usable as its still my current daily. If the items arent merged maybe it isnt a good idea to even make a realease unless its to a few beta testers. That way 100s of people dont whine and complain about known or dumb issues.
Either way keeep up the good work.

Not sure how it would be accomplished, but a good idea would be to remove all posts from the cm10 thread and only scott could post in it (updates/changelog).
I have no idea how feasible that would be though.

Many thanks to scott
Hi scott, I never felt the need to comment in your thread because I never had any problems with your ROM.
But now I feel the need to comment here to express my gratitude for all the hard work that you have put into this ROM.
Your ROM is the first one that I tried, and also the best one I've seen/used. I'm VERY glad that you will continue your work for the Infuse.
Again, I thank you for your work, and I will be looking forward to future updates!

UnhoIy said:
His CM10 thread was actually the only reason I got on XDA.
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This^
hovin1988 said:
Hi scott, I never felt the need to comment in your thread because I never had any problems with your ROM.
But now I feel the need to comment here to express my gratitude for all the hard work that you have put into this ROM.
Your ROM is the first one that I tried, and also the best one I've seen/used. I'm VERY glad that you will continue your work for the Infuse.
Again, I thank you for your work, and I will be looking forward to future updates!
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And this^
I generally just read through the thread reading peoples issues if i ran into one rather than post. Issues were always sorted out if i kept reading. But thanks for all your hard work in creating roms, I know i'd be really bad off without them :good:

I think the communication and forum issues are simply a result of using a forum for "developer collaboration". Then to top it off, many are using tapatalk, which has the most useless search feature ever. I've heard the argument that a proper browser should be used, but many just won't.
As long as a forum is used for xda development, it will continue to be more like a ROM forum than anything else intended without ridiculous amounts of moderation (even judicious use of temp bans without warning).
Forums are good for arguing lol. Bugtrackers are good for tracking bugs, especially since they are easy to police. If you want feedback as well, make a special category for that. Duplicates and invalid reports can be easily identified and marked as such. For all other forums(general, q&a, accessories, etc.) a forum makes sense to me. For the development forum, a forum, IMO, makes little sense.
If the forum format is used in order to foster community, fine. You can expect a lot of drama, arguing, complaining, and everything else that goes along with it.
Just my opinion. I could be completely wrong.
Sent from my SGH-I997 using xda app-developers app lol

[Q] Need an opinion about statusbar icon pack for viper

Good afternoon to all people of good faith and hope.
I have a question of a moral nature, and here is the story:
Since i'm using rom from the Venom team, i got the oportunity to create and
Change the icon packs for eqs/statbar and began plaing with those.
Thanks to the venom kitchen tool which i obtained from their theme thread i managed to create such a theme,
And wanted to share it with others
but the problem is that none (or most) of the icons used are mine or of my hand, i just found them in my searches through the internet.
All of them were free or giveaway, nevertheless there were so many sites i've visited that i honestly do not even remember the names of the creators- well accept a few, and those are:
- Xylomon
-Fandvd_d3iph3w- glass_pack by him,
-LinuxLex8 mega icon pack- on which all set i've put together is mostly based...
-Shelby_snake_icon_by_jjcaster
My question is whether or not is it apropreate to post it here on xda, to view an use for all
In the above mentioned conditions...
I will add- if i may- screenshots, either as an attachment or an image under my post
(Depending on how i'll manage to do that) for judgment by the members of the community,
And all i am asking is an honest opinion

Well if you give credit to those it's due to and state you will add credit to those that recognise their work, seeing as they were all freely available i don't see a problem.
We’ve heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the complete works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true.
—Robert Wilensky

I have noticed that you have a nice theme...why don't you share with us....?
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jugg1es said:
Well if you give credit to those it's due to and state you will add credit to those that recognise their work, seeing as they were all freely available i don't see a problem.
We’ve heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the complete works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true.
—Robert Wilensky
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I am glad to learn your opinion- you know- better be safe than sorry

asgardr said:
I am glad to learn your opinion- you know- better be safe than sorry
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Obviously if someone asks that you give them credit you should check by asking them for the original post. But i see no reason not to post it as long as you explain as you have in your op.
We’ve heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the complete works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true.
—Robert Wilensky

jugg1es said:
Obviously if someone asks that you give them credit you should check by asking them for the original post. But i see no reason not to post it as long as you explain as you have in your op.
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Well...
There it is- theme for statbar/eqs that i gathered, were using a while and wanted in the end to give it its own live.
As the apk it works only with roms from the team venom, as there is - venom tweaks- engine implemented
in the system...(more info one could find i the original thread of any viper rom).
Another way to get those icons on board would be to extract SystemUi.apk from the rom one is using and just
replace the icons(i`m using Apk_Manager_UOT).
Now i want to realy thank and give credits to those without whom this little project
,would have no chances to hapen:
- Xylomon- for his amazing icon packs
- fandvd_d3iph3w- for his amazing glass_icon_pack
- creator of LinuxLex8- amazing mega icon pack- which seems to be the strong base for the theme.
- jjcaster- for Shelby_snake_icon (that i was searching a couple of hours for)
-TeamVenom- for an amazing rom the kitchen and countless hours of work
- XDA- for spreading the light of knowledge and many other things difficult to count within this short lineof text...
- Others that i may have forgoten to mention here whose work enriches our expeariences with android..
Last are not the least, for i treasure everyone equally...
Enjoy...

Awesome why the things like that never uploaded to venom hub?
All I have to do is diving in inc s or one s forum, that's a tiresome..
Sorry for my bad english
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Looks great!
Why don't you make a thread in the Themes and Apps section, so people can find it easily. And post a link in the Viper ROM thread. There are a lot of users that never even open the Q&A section, so will miss your work for sure.

amidabuddha said:
Looks great!
Why don't you make a thread in the Themes and Apps section, so people can find it easily. And post a link in the Viper ROM thread. There are a lot of users that never even open the Q&A section, so will miss your work for sure.
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Well.. truth to tell i am not that accustomed with the ways the things work over here
(But i learn)
And since my input in the project is so small , i would say that the theme belongs now
to the whole community, everyone can freely distribute it, change, modify, or publish
in their own threads at will- as long as they give the credits to all those without whom
, project wouldn't hapen.. Let the younger brother of linux be as free as his older brother is...
Downloaded the wifi test from your thread and going to experiment with it shortly
(When i finish my work today) thank you for the opportunity

Pm a moderator and ask them to move the thread to the themes and apps. Then you could ask for the first couple of posts to be deleted leaving the theme as the op.
Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing.
Benjamin Franklin

jugg1es said:
Pm a moderator and ask them to move the thread to the themes and apps. Then you could ask for the first couple of posts to be deleted leaving the theme as the op.
Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing.
Benjamin Franklin
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So its done...There is another thread in themes and apps section...
thanks for encouragement

✪KERNEL COMPARISON✪ [No Name Kernel] vs [Black Box] vs [Kirks-Kernel]

All three kernel are really good but whats your opinion, also state which rom do you use.
Rating based on-
>Battery life
>Performance
>Internet speeds
>Overall stabilty
State other issues that you faced.
Link to Kernel OP:
BlackBox: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re.../kernel-blackbox-kernel-r1-0-darkest-t3798826
NoName: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/kernel-noname-kernel-v1-0-t3799747
Kirks-Kernel:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/kernel-kirks-kernel-t3800771
Don't forget to Thank the devs ?

Reserved

Its disgusting that sb even tried to compare other devs work. You should feel ashamed!

alreadyregistered said:
Its disgusting that sb even tried to compare other devs work. You should feel ashamed!
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I understand why this may upset you, he/she could have used better words to make this thread.
I do think it is a valid thread if people were to make a rundown of features and bugs offered by the kernels. We also compare different Roms and their features.
Which brings me to another issue, we have 3 custom kernels not 2...

alreadyregistered said:
Its disgusting that sb even tried to compare other devs work. You should feel ashamed!
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Just how do people get offended off of this?
I'm done bruh ??

Blowolf said:
Just how do people get offended off of this?
I'm done bruh
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Do sth productive. We will judge and you'll see.

alreadyregistered said:
Do sth productive. We will judge and you'll see.
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Trying to help people chose right stuff for themselves, If you're offended by that then I'm not sure if you should judge

Blowolf said:
Trying to help people chose right stuff for themselves, If you're offended by that then I'm not sure if you should judge
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You're new here (or at least account is fresh). Read some "newbies" tutorials about unwritten rules on xda.

alreadyregistered said:
You're new here (or at least account is fresh). Read some "newbies" tutorials about unwritten rules on xda.
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Been here a long time, just don't bother posting anything.
Good for you though shining you senior member badge here and there

Blowolf said:
Been here a long time, just don't bother posting anything.
Good for you though shining you senior member badge here and there
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Oh.. silly summer child.

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Oh.. silly summer child.
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Sure kid

Good topic.not evryone have time to test all the kernel

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Sure kid
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Can we all focus on the op title now?

I expected that you tested the kernels and posted some results. But boy was I wrong...

You know, there's nothing wrong with discussing different developers work, respectfully, and talking about pros and cons, outside of development threads of course, but ranking and rating them is a bit much.
Openly rating developers work is pretty disrespectful to the hard working members who actually contribute work to this site, so others can make their phones kewl. This site was created for developers and it isn't Amazon, so please keep ratings to selling and consumer report sites. Developers contribute here for fun and for free, and don't need their work rated by anyone here. Flash things and see what YOU like, it's the least you can do after getting all this cool free stuff on xda.
Cool? Thread closed. :good:

[ROM][unlocked][douglas] Lineage-14.1 [OCT 27 2020]

Removed For Lack of Initial TimeLine Knowledge And To Not Step On Toes

Reserved..

What's the point of this? Why you're sharing the ROM without my permission? Couldn't you just create a post in the LineageOS 12.1 thread with the link (instead creating the new thread - what I was going to do soon..-)?
At this point I'll release LineageOS 14.1 as-is tonight (and yes, I'll create my own thread - which was the initial idea.. -) because people doesn't seems to be able to wait for it.
Thanks for sharing my work (can we also say steal?) without my permission :good:
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btw,
12.3. Re-releasing other's works as your own is forbidden. The code that you release into the wild must have something beyond minor aesthetic changes that makes it better than the last. As this can be subjective, kang reports will be reviewed on a case by case basis. If you feel that your code has been kanged, please contact the Dev Relations team (listed below) if you cannot solve the issue amicably via PM. Please understand that you will be asked to provide evidence to substantiate your claim;
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Rortiz2 said:
What's the point of this? Why you're sharing the ROM without my permission? Couldn't you just create a post in the LineageOS 12.1 thread with the link (instead creating the new thread - what I was going to do soon..-)?
At this point I'll release LineageOS 14.1 as-is tonight (and yes, I'll create my own thread - which was the initial idea.. -) because people doesn't seems to be able to wait for it.
Thanks for sharing my work (can we also say steal?) without my permission :good:
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Let me just clear the air here. Fisrtly, one cannot "steal" something that is openly, publicly and freely available on github. In regards to the legal mumbo jumbo you posted, makes 0 sense to me and means nothing, since that is not the case we have here. I never once re-released anything, nor said anything about taking credit for the work you did. I simply put the rom together from open source materials, just as anyone in the world can /could do and released something that was not built and released. Big differences there. Now, had I hacked your github and started building and releasing your private folders, then what you are talking about would be on par with what you are posting. Long story short, I found the source, built the rom and tested it. I then uploaded the Rom and was in the middle of making this Main post when I came across your cm12.1 post mentioning 14.1. I then tagged you out of mutual respect for your work and personal feelings so that I would make sure that I wasn't stepping on your toes. I now know your feelings and that I am stepping on your toes. Because I have respect for you and your work, I have no problem deleting this thread and the Rom. Just didn't make sense to me at the time that somebody had done all that work and released no rom, so I thought I would be nice and help people out. The better thing to maybe have done, for the benefit of others confusion, is to make the 14.1 thread ahead of time, even if it's blank until release. Silly one would have to read hundreds of pages of cm12.1 stuff to get the gist of what's going on with unrelated 14.1 stuff. I do Apologize for any confusion on my part and any bad feelings you may now harbor. The Rom is your work and now that I know the timeline of things, I'll back off and let you handle it. I will be focusing on getting out more recoveries to compliment your rom. The recovery kernel is built using your sources but the device tree for it was fully made by me, so no confusion there. Again, sorry for basically beating you to the punch of your own release. Like I said, had I not read the cm12.1 posts, I never would have had a clue to any of this. Hopefully you can accept my apologies, move forward and be friends...

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Let me just clear the air here. Fisrtly, one cannot "steal" something that is openly, publicly and freely available on github. In regards to the legal mumbo jumbo you posted, makes 0 sense to me and means nothing, since that is not the case we have here. I never once re-released anything, nor said anything about taking credit for the work you did. I simply put the rom together from open source materials, just as anyone in the world can /could do and released something that was not built and released. Big differences there. Now, had I hacked your github and started building and releasing your private folders, then what you are talking about would be on par with what you are posting. Long story short, I found the source, built the rom and tested it. I then uploaded the Rom and was in the middle of making this Main post when I came across your cm12.1 post mentioning 14.1. I then tagged you out of mutual respect for your work and personal feelings so that I would make sure that I wasn't stepping on your toes. I now know your feelings and that I am stepping on your toes. Because I have respect for you and your work, I have no problem deleting this thread and the Rom. Just didn't make sense to me at the time that somebody had done all that work and released no rom, so I thought I would be nice and help people out. The better thing to maybe have done, for the benefit of others confusion, is to make the 14.1 thread ahead of time, even if it's blank until release. Silly one would have to read hundreds of pages of cm12.1 stuff to get the gist of what's going on with unrelated 14.1 stuff. I do Apologize for any confusion on my part and any bad feelings you may now harbor. The Rom is your work and now that I know the timeline of things, I'll back off and let you handle it. I will be focusing on getting out more recoveries to compliment your rom. The recovery kernel is built using your sources but the device tree for it was fully made by me, so no confusion there. Again, sorry for basically beating you to the punch of your own release. Like I said, had I not read the cm12.1 posts, I never would have had a clue to any of this. Hopefully you can accept my apologies, move forward and be friends...
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Hi,
Yes, you're completely right there (my bad): you can't actually steal something that is public in the web (I'll try to keep my future work in private repos until it's stable then). I was just really pissed off to see someone shared the ROM that I was working on (so hard for almost 6 months) in a new thread without even waiting for me to allow you or something. But whatever, no offence here (I accept your apologies) and as I previously said (telegram) thanks for understanding my decision and thanks for deleting the ROM. I'll try my best to get stable 14.1 working as fast as possible and I'll release it once it's ready. If people really wants to try the beta of LineageOS 14.1 I'll create an special post in the 12.1 thread with all the stuff later.
About the recoveries I know you just used my kernel tree, I was talking about the device tree/vendor tree you used to build 14.1 (which are the ones I've been working on this months).
Regards and sorry for the confusion.

Hey Rortiz2.
Rortiz2 said:
If people really wants to try the beta of LineageOS 14.1 I'll create an special post in the 12.1 thread with all the stuff later.
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That would make sense. If you do not want to publish your ROM yet fire at least a non-open beta to get the ROM faster and more stable. Let me know if I can support you here in any way.

I would love to be able to test lineage 14.1 on this device, I have been using 12 on it since it released