Database Info

A request to all the devs here, about including info in first post.

This NOT ment to be *****ing, I AM grateful for all the great work being done, But i do WISH every single dev could include this in their first post in their ROMs thread:
-What the ROM is based on (HTC framework, ADP, ADP with Sense from Dream, Sense from Hero etc.)
->What works (or not) of:
* LED
* bluetooth
These are common problems with HERO ROMs, and if every dev posted this info, it would be great. For me non-LED= not usable, and for some periods of time (ie. when I'm driving much), so is no BT
->Included apps.
*Especially important are sms-spamming apps such as myfaves - coud be critical to know about.
->recommended compache settings, swapiness etc, what is used in ROM as standard for these values.
We see every Hero-thread filling up with questions about BT, LED, what HERO-version, and what framework, and whatnot. Taking 2mins to post this info could help save so much time,and so much spam/question in the ROM thread.
Apps added/removed and the other stuff is also higly relevant to non-HERO roms.
Again, this is constructive criticism aka a humble suggestion, not an angry demand from some jerk with e-penile problems. (Or so I'd like to believe, at least.)
If anyone has any suggestion as to what other info you would like to see in a ROM announcement? Post it here, maybe we can "help" the devs out by making a complete template we would like them to follow. Input from devs highly appreciated too, ofc.
I know there are toher things that shoul also be listed, such as SPL and radio required etc., although I believe almost everyone includes it. Most devs include most of the items on the list too, but many do not include all of it.
Also, I am sorry for posting this in this category, but this is where the ROMs are posted and the devs can see it.
I hope this thread has its place here. Different people are lokking for different things, and both the user and devs benefit from the user knowing what they get. (It would hopefully limit the number of "spam" questions from users if the first post contained all this information, we know many people are afraid of the search button. Also, it would be easier to wield the ban hammer on people whoe doesn't even bother to look at the simple list in the first post, and waste other peoples time.)
If a dev included enough information, ROM lists with information abut different ROMs would also be much easier to maintain for the good people making them.

It may make things more organized, but it means devs have to update the list, and pay less attwntion to -actual ROM development.
And in my opinion, a little trial and error never hurt anyone.

TermyJW said:
It may make things more organized, but it means devs have to update the list, and pay less attwntion to -actual ROM development.
And in my opinion, a little trial and error never hurt anyone.
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This is TRUE!
I so hope that Hero ROM's on donut are much more snappier! I'm addicted, I want a ROM to use for a few months! Hehe.

Yeah, it would be nice if there was a template developers could follow for posting. It would make thing's so much smoother.
Possibly in the title of the post have;
[ROM] [SENSE] "Title Here"
[ROM] [PULSE] "Title Here"
[ROM] [MOTOBLUR] "Title Here"
[ROM] [1.6] "Title Here"
[ROM] [1.5] "Title Here"

I agree with the OP there are times where i i can't flash 5 different ROMs in a day and i skip over some because of lack of info and screenshots. Maybe the community can build a template that the ROM devs can use?

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I agree with the OP there are times where i i can't flash 5 different ROMs in a day and i skip over some because of lack of info and screenshots. Maybe the community can build a template that the ROM devs can use?
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Are you thinking about getting back into making themes?

not gonna happen

jubeh said:
not gonna happen
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word im too lazy

they already spend there time developing the roms, i dont think they have the time to make the "proper layout"

Binary100100 said:
Are you thinking about getting back into making themes?
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I have been playing around with some images, made changes for my own phone but haven't done much else. I did just get laid off from my job so if i go the unemployment route you will definitely see me more in these forums. If i can't find a job soon i plan on getting into Java programming(i have a few app ideas) and possibly making my own ROMs. But we have to see where the job market takes me.
To stay on topic, the devs do spend a lot of time dev'n and having a template in a txt file would make posting easier for them. I have made a few threads and i can tell you making a layout for a post isn't that easy and is not much fun. If we can make an empty template that they only have to fill in their info...they would be doing the same amount of work on the post, just easier cause its all laid out for them.
We would need a sticky for it and have the devs vote on it or something.

That's a great idea it would be so much easier plus people won't be trashing threads with dumb ass questions is this for G1? Does this work or does it still do that and so on....
I mean before they upload the Rom they know most of the bugs so just saying known issues r these and that would help and just knowing what's new in the release doesn't help just confuses most of the noobs here...I'm one of them.
A little off topic but I'm a recruiting officer in a PC gaming community and I review clan applications, there were times when main application was down so I just made a sticky Thread with a template of the application to fill up and post it as a new thread
I mean look all of the devs pretty much do that already anyhow, every thread they make look exactly as the other 1 we just need a clean template that they all could use and just made it as a sticky thread and lock it so every1 could use it.

Zarboz said:
word im too lazy
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If you're making a ROM and posting it on xda, you obviously want other people to use it.
If the first post is sloppy and not informative or up to date. Less people will use your ROM. Thus, less people will test it. Therefore, you won't be able to figure out the bugs. If you're sloppy with info, you'll lose, not us.
Something that should be standard:
A proper title like suggested earlier such as [ROM] [1.6 - Pulse] [******]
(none of that [ROM] ***MghtyMax 1.9.1*** "WHAT A FEELING!" stuff....Sorry, but it's just plain horrible.)
Another thing should be a list of features, things that work, things that don't.
Screenshots are also very nice and descriptive. A lot of new users might not know what Pulse, Hero, etc. looks like.
If you take the time to work on a ROM, you have the time to work on a nice looking first post. Don't half ass your work. It makes you look unprofessional.

I agree with the first poster, also MD5 hashes would be nice.

As damnitpud mentions, this would probably make it easier for devs, not harder. This is about *not* forccing them to make the proper layout themselves, but serve as a pre-made basis for them to fill in. In ready made bb-code ofc.
Since the mighty max-rom was brought up, this is noe ROM i did not download and flash immedeatly beacause I couldn't find info about BT working or not. Also would like to know if it were the SENSE from Dream or Hero. And some other details.
As I have time to sit down and flash my phone maybe two days a week, tops, I would like to know what I want to try beforehand. I also don't want to read four hundred post with questions that sometimes are answered in the first post, sometimes in the thread, sometimes not at all. But IF they had been answered in first post - and especially if it were in standard list that all/most devs used, it would be hard to miss it, and save a lot of stupid and/or lazy people nagging.
md5 hashes is absolutely something that should be on such a list, ohnoezmahfone. That is certainly lacking, and quite important for people with a good-for-nothing-ISP or net by 3G modem etc.

Someone make up a template. There will always be someone who will volunteer to do it for the developer.

All great ideas.
Especially for the sake of SEARCH.
Example:
I enter a search for "bluetooth working hero" and up pops 4000 unhelpful results most where 1000 noobs are asking if it works or not without doing the proper research in the prior posts.
An all informative 1st post would reduce this and the unnecessary flaming that follows (also part of results)
Also, it would also be real nice if everyone keep their personal lives to themselves.
Noone cares if your "flashing [other irrelavant ROM] now because BT aint working for Hero yet. This also shows up in results.
If I want you to kno whats on my device, i'll put it in my sig
I know i just made "BT working Hero" one more result longer [4001] but i had to vent. Sometimes searching can be very annoying and cumbersome.
Less results means less hassle for devs and users.
Once again, great ideas

[REQ] 2.10.605.1 Untouched but Rooted

I'd like to request a completely untouched version of this ROM with the exception of root. (No debloating, no deodexing, no zipaligning, etc...)
I'm surprised this didn't come out first and I think many would appreciate it as well.
[ROM]RUU_Mecha_GINGERBREAD_S_VERIZON_WWE_2.10.605.1_Rad io_0.01.78.0802w_3_NV_8K_1.41
[ROM] ZIP format: RUU_Mecha_GINGERBREAD_S_VERIZON_WWE_2.10.605.1_Rad io_0.01.78.08...
2.10.605.1 Debloat|Deodex|Rooted|Busybox|Zipalign
[ROM] [FLASHABLE] 2.10.605.1 Debloat/BLoat Options

you don't need anyone to make one...
Instead, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226156
and read/use the information and links it contains...

KidJoe said:
you don't need anyone to make one...
Instead, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226156
and read/use the information and links it contains...
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I was aware of that but it would be nice if someone can uploaded a completed version of this to save quite a bit of time.

open1your1eyes0 said:
I was aware of that but it would be nice if someone can uploaded a completed version of this to save quite a bit of time.
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Its a couple extra steps, and doesn't really take much longer than flashing a rooted rom file. Plus flashing the patched HBoot is safer, and for how "easy" this is.. I wouldn't expect any dev to take the time and make just a "rooted" version of the rom to flash.

Odd. I don't see anything in the forum rules that say people should ask for help. I don't blame the guy for asking. Why not? What's next--create your own ROM, why should others do it? Figure out your own root method instead of asking someone if they have?
For all the people who give the guy grief about asking, maybe someone else will say, "yeah, that's a good idea" and help the guy (and others) out.
Joel

I think it's more that this person is asking in multiple places for a few hours. Coulda had it done by now. Just rubs some people the wrong way.

Wow guys, well I think I can officially say XDA is no longer the same site I thought it was....
FYI, I had already done the posted method no problem. The only reason I made this thread was in an effort to request if a developer (of which I am not) could create a simple ROM that would help other newbies out and make it an easy one-flash task so they don't have to worry. But no, I guess it's a sin to be a newbie now huh? How dare anyone request something so simple from a developer (especially when a well known dev already spent more work creating another version of the same ROM). So this should be even harder for them to do right? And honestly, why anyone sees this thread as a forceful obligation for someone to fulfill the request is beyond me.
Very productive and helpful posts everyone. Great job at showing how supportive XDA has become...

You do realize pulling the rom.zip from an RUU takes about 2 minutes to accomplish, including the time it takes to google the "how-to". But you would rather bother a dev to do it for you, adding the trouble of having to wait the 20+ minutes to upload the 350MB file to waste precious personal server space for a single person's downloading convenience. A 2 minute job turned 30 minutes of someone else's time cus you didn't feel like it. The difference between a good noob and a bad noob: good noob asks how to get roms from RUUs, bad noob tells someone else to do it for them without hesitation.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

open1your1eyes0 said:
Wow guys, well I think I can officially say XDA is no longer the same site I thought it was....
FYI, I had already done the posted method no problem. The only reason I made this thread was in an effort to request if a developer (of which I am not) could create a simple ROM that would help other newbies out and make it an easy one-flash task so they don't have to worry. But no, I guess it's a sin to be a newbie now huh? How dare anyone request something so simple from a developer (especially when a well known dev already spent more work creating another version of the same ROM). So this should be even harder for them to do right? And honestly, why anyone sees this thread as a forceful obligation for someone to fulfill the request is beyond me.
Very productive and helpful posts everyone. Great job at showing how supportive XDA has become...
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Oh please, you are defending yourself ex post facto because you were attacked for being shown that if it matters that much to help the new commers you could make what you wanted pretty quickly by following a how-to. If you really want to help them, you could have probably finished the how-to and posted it in the time you took to complain.
It's great to do things for anyone new and I am all for it (which is why in the few months I have been an official member, I have 60+ "thanks," most of which came from answering questions or giving out useful information.
No one is attacking you for wanting to help noobs, but people will call you out when you claim to want to help and are shown, but ignore it anyways. It comes back to the quote:
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
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If all someone said was to google it or do this yourself without telling you how it could be done with links or something then that would be messed up, but they did not. They gave you links in both this thread and the other (the other thread giving you EXACTLY what you requested in a link).
IMHO if you really want to help those you say you want to help, you could create a post in the developer's forum linking to the post that someone gave you in the other topic from rootzwiki. That way they can be pointed in the right direction.

[MOD EDIT: PLEASE READ AGAIN] A Question about MIUI?

Why can't MIUI Roms be posted posted in here?

I think its because MIUI doesnt want it posted any where but the MIUI site. had the same problem at the G2x threads.. but someone managed to get a thread and link up and keep it up, some how..lol

They can be posted, just not the one from Trip as he's banned from here

Yes, as the poster above me has stated, this ROM is not allowed on XDA, I have to close the threads referring to MIUI, he has expressly asked that it not be posted on XDA.
I am not allowed to let it on unless he has given permission, if memberskeeep posting this it is violating our rules meaning that I have to give out a lot of infractions. If he gives permission, I will happily re-open these thread if this is OK with the Admins.
If anyone has any questions, send me a PM or let me know in here
Thanks Guys
BW

I'm running it now!!!!!! Been looking for a good Sensless rom and MIUI has just fitted the bill nicely

Badwolve1 said:
Yes, as the poster above me has stated, this ROM is not allowed on XDA, I have to close the threads referring to MIUI, he has expressly asked that it not be posted on XDA.
I am not allowed to let it on unless he has given permission, if memberskeeep posting this it is violating our rules meaning that I have to give out a lot of infractions. If he gives permission, I will happily re-open these thread if this is OK with the Admins.
If anyone has any questions, send me a PM or let me know in here
Thanks Guys
BW
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This only applies to the port by Trip though right, any other MIUI port is allowed? There are a couple of ports for the Desire S:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194397

ems328i said:
This only applies to the port by Trip though right, any other MIUI port is allowed? There are a couple of ports for the Desire S:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194397
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Yes, Trip has asked us specifically not to allow his ROM on here, other MIUI roms that are not by him are fine, and his is also fine if he says that it is allowed on here
BW

Wait.. So if I want to download MIUI for my phone, where do I find it? The MIUI site doesn't list Sensation in the devices list, and the links here have been removed..

Google it - it's not hard if you know the site Paul O'Brien runs...
And MIUI have said they are probably going to do an official version for the Sensation soon

EddyOS said:
Google it - it's not hard if you know the site Paul O'Brien runs...
And MIUI have said they are probably going to do an official version for the Sensation soon
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I wait for this. I try some of ver but have some serious bug on my sensation!

He's kicked out some real kick ass ROMs in a short period of time. MIUI is running VERY well. Totally worth it.

Something tells me that Trip has no problems with his ROM being posted on XDA (with all credits to him, of course), but that's only me, I won't talk instead of him. Too bad because his ROM is faster than any other around here, even it is still beta. Come on people, let's make a deal here and enjoy our Sensations

markoko1 said:
Something tells me that Trip has no problems with his ROM being posted on XDA (with all credits to him, of course), but that's only me, I won't talk instead of him. Too bad because his ROM is faster than any other around here, even it is still beta. Come on people, let's make a deal here and enjoy our Sensations
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AFAIK Trip had no problems with the thread here at XDA and just didn't want mirrors posted, seeing as the thread was just a link to his original thread and seeing as he okay'd it, I don't know why the thread was closed down anyway.

Can you give me the link for the miui rom by Paul O'Brien please?
Thanks
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App

BonesRed said:
AFAIK Trip had no problems with the thread here at XDA and just didn't want mirrors posted, seeing as the thread was just a link to his original thread and seeing as he okay'd it, I don't know why the thread was closed down anyway.
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I'm pretty sure he does mind. Quote from his current thread on Modaco:
Dont misunderstand me, i dont have a problem with sharing it, i do have a problem with sharing it to a place that kills everything that have something to do with me. That is not how a community should be. Even users who support me there get bashed, they are going to wrong way there.. They always had a great community where you could learn alot and everyone was excepted in there own ways.
There where alot of users helping each other, now the mods control the place on there personal likings. And people just take whatever they need to get more attention then another.
I want to help as much as i can, but giving everything for free to a community that fights against me.. no sorry thats a no go.
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Source: http://android.modaco.com/topic/346...199-released/page__view__findpost__p__1802749

xnpu said:
I'm pretty sure he does mind. Quote from his current thread on Modaco:
Source: http://android.modaco.com/topic/346...199-released/page__view__findpost__p__1802749
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This isn't going to go anywhere so I will basically just chime in since this has greatly affected me personally. Trip basically is unhappy how users such as myself get trashed for even mentioning his ROM, on XDA. I basically was trying to help a user yesterday, and I mentioned I was using Trips ROM, but was going to offer my help with an installation of an app he had an issue with. I posted a link to that app, and instead of the moderators here seeing I was NOT posting any links to the ROM, but rather to an app, I was trashed by several users saying that I should know better, and then was forced to delete references. I never posted any direct link to Modaco nor his ROM. The link was to an app, I simply googled. Suffice it to say, after posting more than 3100 threads here and helping out literally with 100's of users over the last two years with my Nexus one and now Sensation, I probably at least in the near term will basically help over at Modaco and move on for a while from here. The attitudes of many here totally sour the situation. Especially on a phone that has lack support for so long and has finally gotten to the point of enjoyment with development, past the same old same old copies of Sense Roms we see here from day one. All the developers here brag they have the fastest, slickest, ad nauseum same old Sense ROMs that for the most part are just clones of each other. Sure, I might be offending a lot of the hard working OPs here and I will say I'm sorry I had to make such a statement, since I know a lot of hard work goes into any of this. But now we finally are seeing CM7, and MIUI opening up on the Sensations doorstep and because of the piss and moaning going on here with Trip over issues from the past, we end up with being either near banned, threatened with points actions, told we must delete references that have zero to do with his ROM, but they are afraid that some will just "think" that there are links. The hysteria after yesterday really left a sour taste in my mouth and many other fellow long time XDAers I speak with all the time, that have all basically PMed me stating they could NOT believe how I basically was trashed on a thread here.
Anyways, just wanted to speak my peace. This is NOT on a development thread so hopefully I won't have threats coming at me for speaking my peace. The actions here only hurt a community as a whole.

http://android.modaco.com/topic/346...a-sensational-s002b199-released/page__st__260
You can read there " the thread by t0ny0 in the xda development area is the useful one" ... Does anyone need more proof that he in fact didnt mind the idea of his rom being here?
And even with that - thread was closed. Not cool.
We have the proof that he approves, and still closed...
Sent from my Sensation 4G, that is finally running CM7, using Tapatalk.

Closing the threads just cuz he got banned. Wow. His rom is by far way better than others. MIUI all day everyday!! signature!!!
Sent from my HTC Pyramid using xda premium

Badwolve1 said:
If he gives permission, I will happily re-open these thread if this is OK with the Admins.
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and his is also fine if he says that it is allowed on here
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Pretty sure THIS negates any reason for deleting t0ny0's thread in the first place.
edit* side note, miui goes against the entire spirit of cm by kanging cm source then redistributing it closed. i think it should be banned completely.

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Pretty sure THIS negates any reason for deleting t0ny0's thread in the first place.
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Thaaaank you...
Sent from my Sensation 4G, that is finally running CM7, using Tapatalk.

Jelly Bean (JB) for the Sensation - OTA/Information/Update/ETAs/etc

To somewhat control the the masses of Jelly bean threads that are currently arising, I made this thread to collect all talk about it.
Anything related to JB belongs in this thread. We don't want hundreds of threads with the same information, so please use this thread instead.
Yes I know I fooled you with the title, but I somehow need to get your attention
Any other JB threads will be closed to keep this froum clean.
Thanks

Wait HTC ONE X thread on Sensation forum?

When wil come
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda app-developers app

People are too much excited for this update personally I don't think it worth the hype but we'll see...
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.

akbisw said:
Wait HTC ONE X thread on Sensation forum?
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sowmian said:
When wil come
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for a good laugh, I needed one right now.

Diamondback said:
To somewhat control the the masses of Jelly bean threads that are currently arising, I made this thread to collect all talk about it.
Anything related to JB belongs in this thread. We don't want hundreds of threads with the same information, so please use this thread instead.
Yes I know I fooled you with the title, but I somehow need to get your attention
Any other JB threads will be closed to keep this froum clean.
Thanks
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lol you fooled your self xD ( Jk ) the HTC one X have JB up and running!!!

It would be nice if you can somehow merge it with this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736469&page=12
there are some good information on that thread...

Can someone working on this upload a logcat and I'll help, unfortunatly I can obtain logcat myself because my sensation is in for repair :/

I'm assuming HOX is a nickname for Sensation? :silly:

Smart guy...

Send me something and I'll get you your logcat

sowmian said:
When wil come
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda app-developers app
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Dont ask for ETA, the more you ask, the less I am inclined to help port this = the longer it will take because of fewer people, so do everyone a favor and dont ask
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I'm assuming HOX is a nickname for Sensation? :silly:
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HTC One X

Ace42 said:
I'm assuming HOX is a nickname for Sensation? :silly:
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no HOX = HTC one X

Jonny said:
Dont ask for ETA, the more you ask, the less I am inclined to help port this = the longer it will take because of fewer people, so do everyone a favor and dont ask
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What if he asked for an official release date rather than a port? Why go @ him like that without any further information?
I don't know about other people, but I personally appreciate your work and you taking your time to help with the porting process, because I'm really eager to try the new features, but if you're going to go at everyone seeking some knowledge, I just don't think it's the place... Stop making us feel guilty or think twice before asking any questions.
That's definitely not the meaning of the word 'community'.
Plus, the sensation forum itself is not that 'live' lately, so such threads/questions kinda spice things up a lil' bit.
Anyways, If it's that irritating and 'annoying', why not write down all the information currently known about the process and clearing up some stuff for people who have no idea? Wouldn't that just be easier to keep track of the progress AND avoid less people having to ask? I wouldn't even mind doing it myself, but as you can see, this is the only post allowed on the subject.
Would you please explain me why it's that so... un-motivating? annoying? irritating?
People asking such questions will be everywhere, anywhere, anytime, and no one can change that. I don't have a problem with such people, because sometimes they're the reason I'm able to get my questions answered.
Also, the forum won't be as it is right now, without people asking and expressing excitement over new versions/updates.
It will most likely become a dev-only forum, which won't be much fun, will it? I mean, won't you just port stuff for other devs that can do it themselves? Meh...
Anyways, I'm sure he didn't mean to intentionally affect you or anyones else progress. So some sympathy and patience with people. Not all people know what you do, and that's totally legitimate.
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OP/Mod, If you're going to allow only one thread about the subject at least fill it with some information.
Since people are not allowed to ask elsewhere, this should be the ideal place for them to get informed about the porting process and the new update.
You can't forbid people to ask (really basic) certain questions, yet not fill them with information. People come here, first and foremost for information, not to be impressed by the esthetics of the forum.
You may want to merge all of the information and links out there in one post, for both devs and users.
As I said before, I wouldn't mind doing it myself, but I can't... apparently... Just sayin'
P.S, Nothing personal, just expressing my feelings, so no offence

HOX is nickname for (H)TC (O)ne (X)
Sent from 3000 years in the future from my extremely outdated, but still extremely awesome HTC Sensation Z710e

@biasaf as a general rule most people working on ports and other complex stuff dont like feeling pressured to release or fix. After all we all have personal lives and we do this for a hobby, a hobby should be something you do for fun, not because you feel pressured to do so. Also because of the nature of what porters are trying to do, giving ETA is not good because we dont know ourselves and it just adds more pressure. if the dude was asking for ETA of official release, well tbh that is a pretty stupid thing to ask because htc dont generally give eta either - with exception to ics expected rollout timetable.
If you follow the thread in the dev section you will already know that one guy has a rom which gets past splash screen and just loops on logcat errors after that. In any case if you watch the dev thread you will know the latest progress.
the point I really want to stress though is twofold, 1) we do this for free, 2) we do this in our free time as a hobby so please the least people can do is be patient, when its done its done, until then its not done and hassling any devs working on it just annoys people

Jonny,
I get where this is coming from, and yes I do follow the other threads.
I'm pretty informed though it's just normal for people to get curious.
I think what you're saying is right and a dev, as a contributor, should receive his respect and his ideal work environment and conditions. (does that make sense?)
I don't see how this might be pressuring, because as you said, you do it as a hubby and you don't really have to do it for anyone, yet you're still doing it for whatever reason you have.
On the other hand, that's exactly why people asking for ETAs shouldn't be a bother. When it's done, it's done. Just my 2 cents...
Anyways, I'm really not in the place to judge anyone, especially not a dev (since I haven't been in that position really), so sorry for my previous comments.
P.S., I know it's not the right place to ask, but it's summer and I have LOADS and LOADS of free time, so I thought I'd help myself and try to learn some android programming (and maybe help the community... somewhen). Do you know any good place to start? Do I need to learn any specific programming language?
I know there are loads of sources on Google, but I don't know what's trusted and what's not...
Thank you!

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P.S., I know it's not the right place to ask, but it's summer and I have LOADS and LOADS of free time, so I thought I'd help myself and try to learn some android programming (and maybe help the community... somewhen). Do you know any good place to start? Do I need to learn any specific programming language?
I know there are loads of sources on Google, but I don't know what's trusted and what's not...
Thank you!
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There are a few different views on how to go about it. I reckon its todo with the sort of person you are, eg. if you are the type of person that throws yourself at something and gets stuck in straight away you would be most comfortable going straight in an learning basic java and C++
On the other hand if you like to ease yourself into things it would be better to get to grips with a really easy programming langauge with syntax not too dissimilar to more complex langauges. I was lucky and got into mobile modding at 14 with flash actionscript themes for older samsung phones (tocco lite, monte, corby etc) which is a really easy way to start because you can run the themes on pc and test what changes to code do without running them on the phone using flash player and the code is really easy to understand and can gently ease your way into the coding world.
For internet resources, there are a lot of flash actionscript tutorials on the DarkforestGroup sites (DFG StarMods in particular as that is completly dedicated to flash ui based phones) and also there are lots of Java and C++ tutorials online for free but if you want to be sure they are tried and tested then probably the best way would be to buy a book of amazon or somthing like that.
One warning is that it does take a lot of time and you have to be prepared to read lots whichever way you choose! Good luck!
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The last post was geared mainly towards app/kernel/AOSP/CM/AOKP development but if you want to be a ROM developer you firstly need some sort of kitchen like dsixda's kitchen and cygwin to enable the kitchen to work under windows. the kitchen will let you carry out basic tasks then I would recommend getting a comarison software like beyond compare or similar and compare your ROM with others then see if you can build on those improvements like perhaps editing values in init.d scripts or maybe some smali hacking to enable hidden features/create new features. Or if your good with photoshop or similar you could change the way icons look and create a whole new unique look to the ROM like steve0007 elegancia ROM. then you can add stuff like beats mods, speed tweaks, xloud, bravia, options to debloat and remove some btc junk from the ROM to create an entirely customized ROM.
Anyway this is all massively off topic and its late and Ive got some attemps at porting to do before I go to sleep

biasaf said:
Jonny,
I get where this is coming from, and yes I do follow the other threads.
I'm pretty informed though it's just normal for people to get curious.
I think what you're saying is right and a dev, as a contributor, should receive his respect and his ideal work environment and conditions. (does that make sense?)
I don't see how this might be pressuring, because as you said, you do it as a hubby and you don't really have to do it for anyone, yet you're still doing it for whatever reason you have.
On the other hand, that's exactly why people asking for ETAs shouldn't be a bother. When it's done, it's done. Just my 2 cents...
Anyways, I'm really not in the place to judge anyone, especially not a dev (since I haven't been in that position really), so sorry for my previous comments.
P.S., I know it's not the right place to ask, but it's summer and I have LOADS and LOADS of free time, so I thought I'd help myself and try to learn some android programming (and maybe help the community... somewhen). Do you know any good place to start? Do I need to learn any specific programming language?
I know there are loads of sources on Google, but I don't know what's trusted and what's not...
Thank you!
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Think i might join you been dying to give back to the community and now i have the time to do that

To bring this back on topic, has anyone else noticed that the OOM groupings are suddenly back in the ramdisk (init.rc to be precise)? Seems strange for google to u-turn on this when they moved the OOM groupings to services.jar for ICS (though if they're anything like the UK government....)

android one ui custom theme

how's looking settings panel.
this made custom icons mimics android Q.
Samsung android one ui looking so cool

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i hope you like my works

Be grateful when someone is trying to share their work. Without people's sharing this community will die.

Looks very good. Where can we get your theme?
Gesendet von meinem SM-G975F mit Tapatalk

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He is junior member . It means he has just created a new account.. so he cnt post right now..

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Looks great
Need to know from where to download

how's looking this theme one ui compatible. based on android Google pixel Q .all my xda brothers.
im in new in this community ? i don't know how to post my themes link or apk & others file.
anyone tech my lile a big brother or as a friends.
thank-you

Well done and thank you for taking the time to share your work.
When you are able to upload or share it will be more than welcome. People like you are what these communities are about.
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Once again, thank you, look forward to seeing some more.

gitlygit said:
Well done and thank you for taking the time to share your work.
When you are able to upload or share it will be more than welcome. People like you are what these communities are about.
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Once again, thank you, look forward to seeing some more.
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The problem is that this section in the S10+ is for work with a product attached to it. There is nothing wrong with the thread itself, but it should be posted somewhere else until OP learns how to properly make a post and attach the theme. Also, I think you took his rubbish comment too seriously. For a lot of us "rubbish" is not a negative thing, in this case, it just means "What are you trying to say, I do not understand. I am looking for more clarification" OP isn't strong with English and just makes it hard for others to understand what he was posting about considering there was nothing attached to the original post.
No reason to get so defensive so quickly.

gitlygit said:
True, but I have to say that seemingly negative language does have the effect of putting some people who are trying to be helpful by posting what they perceive to be as useful information, off.
But point taken, by myself and hopefully elsewhere.
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I feel ya, Just think nothing negative was meant by it. Anyway, Im really diffing OPs pixel theme!

OP could post links via Google Drive or whatever file share he can use can't remember if you need a certain number of post first though, its been a while. (Goes and looks at rules). Thanks OP.

check s10+ thread guys---- find DNA Q theme.
i can't upload attach files friends. deepanshu bro won't me that's way.

im started new Samsung Galaxy theme project.
very shortly I'll post + attachment files also.
just motivate & i need your wishes.
xda community all members are my brother & friends.

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princelove46 said:
how's looking this theme one ui compatible. based on android Google pixel Q .all my xda brothers.
im in new in this community ? i don't know how to post my themes link or apk & others file.
anyone tech my lile a big brother or as a friends.
thank-you
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You theme link ?

PARSHAN said:
You theme link ?
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it's a paid themes bro .

princelove46 said:
it's a paid themes bro .
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give the link

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