Hi,
I was wondering if there was some way of preventing Microsoft and Google apps reinstalling themselves after I delete them? I've just rooted my phone and am new to the world of Android's furry innards but am a long term Linux user.
Sorry if this is a duplicate post, I've searched Google and XDA to no avail.
ps. does anyone know offhand why fdisk doesn't do anything? It's installed in BusyBox.
Thanks :silly:
I don't those apps are being reinstalled. They are probably not even deleted in the first place. Some apps are protected. I mention this because Titanium Backup has a "Chuck Norris" mode that specifically deals with that scenario.
I had a similar problem where Titanium Backup wasn't able to uninstall system apps. The workaround was to delete the apk from /system using a root capable file manager.
This was a root problem though. The root method I used at that time wasn't entirely compatible with Titanium Backup. So that may be another reason why your apps keep showing up.
It is because of adware you've been infected with. Download an antivirus and throughly scan and remove the viruses. Remove recently installed apps that you find suspicious.
I moved and disabled them at the same time using Apps2sd and they stayed dead.
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Hi folks,
As you can tell from the title I'm a smartphone noob and didn't realise you couldn't do this (see the amount of people I've spoke to who didn't even notice you can't delete apps that come with the phone! What's with that?).
But as you can see I emphasised the 'why', 'cause I've searched everywhere but can't find a reason as to why. I'd assume it was just so you can't delete bloatware, but even the Nexus that runs on stock Android has the same issue.
Does anyone know why (or guess why) you can't delete preinstalled apps?
Thanks!
If your device is rooted, all you have to do is download Root Explorer from the market and delete the APK files from the system.
They're located in: /system/app/
You have to press "Mount R/W" on the top right of the application before you can read and write. Make sure hit "Mount R/O" in the same spot after you're done editing though. Also, make sure that what you're deleting isn't something you need and you should probably back-up the .APK files to be safe. If you mess up and don't back up, you can still just re-flash or re-download GAPPS without a problem. Have fun .
Thanks
I was thinking about rooting my phone actually, I'll check that out (I'm sooooo going to back up everything lol).
But! The question was WHY you can't delete the preinstalled apps. Does anyone know the reasoning behind it?
You're welcome mate .
Just for safety I suppose. And you should definitely root your phone, it'll open a whole new world for you!
manufacturer /operator agreements...
tmpchr said:
manufacturer /operator agreements...
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That and basically without rooting your phone it's basically like a comps guest profile. A lot less can mess up if you can't play around with certain files/settings.
Makes sense.
Thanks folks
I am also unhappy that i cannot uninstall apps that came with the phone and i have yet to find a good reason as to why not. most of the apps i want to delete are free on the market, already compatible with my phone and can be deleted or uninstalled without causing any major issues.
tmpchr says "manufacturer /operator agreements..."
ok ill buy that, sounds like a good business opportunity, (i would do it) good advertising, shared/reduced costs...etc. but the end user should still have the option to remove.
I totally agree with you guys, at the very beginning I had so big apps installed on my device (motorola xt720), for instance MotoNav was about 1.5 GB and spoiled my battery life. Luckily I discovered how to root the device and now, using "root uninstaller" that you find in the market, all of them are just a memory
You could also use Titanium Backup to remove programs.
My root attempt failed.
Anyway I trying to get my phone back up and running. I have the stock setting back and attempting to restore from mybackup pro. When it goes to restore it displays each app saying, can not restore apk files because of the phone setting and can not restore app that are not from the market.
Well all my apps are from the market so any idea what to do next? It shows my backup file it just doesn't load it because of my setting which I can not change. My file shows all my apps as a apk file.
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My root attempt failed.
Anyway I trying to get my phone back up and running. I have the stock setting back and attempting to restore from mybackup pro. When it goes to restore it displays each app saying, can not restore apk files because of the phone setting and can not restore app that are not from the market.
Well all my apps are from the market so any idea what to do next? It shows my backup file it just doesn't load it because of my setting which I can not change. My file shows all my apps as a apk file.
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It's not going to restore apps like that unless you're rooted and have sideloading capability.
If the phone is telling you it can't restore apps that aren't from the market, and all of your apps are from the market, then there isn't a problem, in itself...
It's where those market apps are at when you're trying to restore them that's the problem. Even though you originally got them from the market, mybackup is trying to pull them from your SD card. Unless you're rooted with sideloading, the phone considers any .apk that isn't directly installed from the market to be an "unknown source," and blocks it.
If you previously chose to have the phone backup your apps and settings via Google, market would reinstall the apps for you. If not, you're going to have to manually redownload them from the market, based on the list you can see in mybackup/from what you remember you had installed.
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Just great, here goes hours of fun!!!! Now I am determine to root.
Thanks
Just thinking I do have the side loader wonder machine and have installed apk files (swype) using it. Can I go into my SD card some how and grab the files that way. I am needing some of the data that I have in some of my apps.
For example, I use the "keeper" to store my personal info and account numbers. I need to retrieve this info along with a few others!!!
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Just thinking I do have the side loader wonder machine and have installed apk files (swype) using it. Can I go into my SD card some how and grab the files that way. I am needing some of the data that I have in some of my apps.
For example, I use the "keeper" to store my personal info and account numbers. I need to retrieve this info along with a few others!!!
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Well, I'm not familiar with that app, but it depends on how it stores it's data.
If it has some kind of mechanism for storing your data remotely, like on some server or something, and would auto sync your data in a similar fashion to how Google does it with contacts, then that would work.
If it had some kind of export function to put your stuff in a separate file that you could retrieve later...
Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you, because if it wasn't one of the above two scenarios, chances are the app stores your data in a private database, in a special area of the phone that is inaccessible to any other app on an unrooted phone.
If this is the case, though it appeared mybackup was doing what you wanted it to, it wasn't doing EXACTLY what you wanted it to... It was backing up the apps themselves, the .apks, but not the data that corresponds to them.
It's confusing and a bit misleading for someone new to all of this Android customization stuff.... I got burned the same way the first time I rooted.
You kind of have to root before you start initially filling your phone with data. Once you root though, you CAN use mybackup pro to backup apps + data. I own the app myself. It's capable of doing it, it just needs root access first.
Hope you get it worked out...
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Thanks for the time you took to reply!
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Thanks for the time you took to reply!
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No problem.
Nothing beats a good old text file on the computer with your passwords as a backup. (In a password protected zip file or something).
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Having recently rooted my SGN10.1, I wanted to start trying out custom roms. However, before doing so, I felt that it is best to ensure that I have proper backup. Being a believer in redundancy, I not only wanted to backup using Titanium Pro, but I also wanted to use my original Mybackup Pro, as well.
Unfortunately, the Mybackup Pro seems to keep crashing when trying to backup data. It will hang on one of the early app program's data file, and then suddenly shut down by itself and reboot. When it comes up from the roboot, the wallpaper is replaced by a black screen. I then need to power down and restart to get the wallpaper back.
The problem does not seem to affect the backup of apps by themselves, just the data. Same issue when backing up apps+data or just data. Apps by themselves backup without a problem.
Initially I thought that it might be related to the particular app where it was crashing, which was the Allplay app. I applied free to the app (and any related files listed), and then the backup failed again on a later app, with the same result.
I uninstalled Mybackup Pro, rebooted, and then re-installed it again, as per the Rerware website recommendation, however the same problem keeps happening.
Is this a root related problem or did I cause another problem somewhere else for which I may be unaware.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
'Bean
I use Carbon back up and like it. You don't have to be rooted.
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I use Carbon back up and like it. You don't have to be rooted.
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Thank you for the reply. I was using MyBackup Pro well before rooting and I never had a problem with it. I am trying to determine if perhaps something that I did caused the problem or if it is related to the backup app itself not playing well with the root process from CWM, Odin, etc.
I am not familiar with Carbon. Is that related to Carbonite? Also, will it backup all of the things that Titanium is known to backup? Again, I was looking primarily for redundancy, but I did not anticipate that a well known backup program would encounter a problem.
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Having recently rooted my SGN10.1, I wanted to start trying out custom roms. However, before doing so, I felt that it is best to ensure that I have proper backup. Being a believer in redundancy, I not only wanted to backup using Titanium Pro, but I also wanted to use my original Mybackup Pro, as well.
Unfortunately, the Mybackup Pro seems to keep crashing when trying to backup data. It will hang on one of the early app program's data file, and then suddenly shut down by itself and reboot. When it comes up from the roboot, the wallpaper is replaced by a black screen. I then need to power down and restart to get the wallpaper back.
The problem does not seem to affect the backup of apps by themselves, just the data. Same issue when backing up apps+data or just data. Apps by themselves backup without a problem.
Initially I thought that it might be related to the particular app where it was crashing, which was the Allplay app. I applied free to the app (and any related files listed), and then the backup failed again on a later app, with the same result.
I uninstalled Mybackup Pro, rebooted, and then re-installed it again, as per the Rerware website recommendation, however the same problem keeps happening.
Is this a root related problem or did I cause another problem somewhere else for which I may be unaware.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
'Bean
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I have a rooted GNote 10.1 with a stock ROM and I had exactly the same problem with MyBackup Pro (MBP).
I solved it with these steps:
1) I enabled the "Use BusyBox" option in MBP's settings. After that MBP didn't crash anymore, the backup process was really fast (too fast) and reported the successful backup of the apps' data.
Anyway, after checking the backup files I saw that the apps folders were empty (!).
2) I thought that the problem could then be with my tablet not having the BusyBox tools (or not having the right tools). So I downloaded from Google Play the app "BusyBox for Android" (by Stephen (Stericson)) and installed the BusyBox package through the app "smart install" option. No apparent change. Then I re-installed it through the "normal install" option.
Finally, after this second step, I got what seems a full backup. In fact I've checked that the backup size of the MBP AppsMedia_folder (backup of apps' data only) is 110MB whilst the apps' data backup made with Carbon is about the same size (if zipped): 116MB.
I wrote to MBP's developer asking about this problem, but didn't receive a clear answer.
Last words I got from him are:
This is an isolated case, that I am thinking is an environmental issue, this is not a common occurrence we ever get reports about.
I see from the OP that maybe the problem is less uncommon than it's thought to be.
Anyway, apart from MBP I also used Carbon to be sure...
BusyBox works indeed
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I have a rooted GNote 10.1 with a stock ROM and I had exactly the same problem with MyBackup Pro (MBP).
I solved it with these steps:
2) I thought that the problem could then be with my tablet not having the BusyBox tools (or not having the right tools). So I downloaded from Google Play the app "BusyBox for Android" (by Stephen (Stericson)) and installed the BusyBox package through the app "smart install" option. No apparent change. Then I re-installed it through the "normal install" option.
Finally, after this second step, I got what seems a full backup. In fact I've checked that the backup size of the MBP AppsMedia_folder (backup of apps' data only) is 110MB whilst the apps' data backup made with Carbon is about the same size (if zipped): 116MB.
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I can confirm this behaviour. I had troubles with MPB too (FAE F1, Android 4.1.2). After reading above post, I installed BusyBox normally, and got my first backup (apk+data) in ages, however MBP stops after about 4/5th of my apps with the "out of space message", but lets me backup the remaining apps on the same SD without any problems.. I'll contact the developers about this.
Thanks sphere314!
Have a Samsung L720T S4. Rooted. Stock ROM. Sprint. I have deleted several APK's that are considered bloatware and after reading a description of the app, I decided I would possibly never use it, so I deleted it. (Of course beforehand, I did a full system and user data backup with Titanium, so I have no fear!) However, I found that the app is somehow being restored. I found this out when I go in to 'trim' my system of carp I don't use and will possibly never use. What is restoring these apps? Some appear before rebooting the phone, others appear after rebooting the phone. When it happens is irrelevant. What I want to know is what file do I need to delete to stop it from restoring apps?
typoHi There,
I'm sorry for such a noob question (???), but I've been researching this for so long and have not figured out how to solve my problem.
I purchased Titanium Backup Pro, to use on my rooted device (Amazon Fire He 10 tablet - I know, it's not really a "true," full-blooded Android tablet - maybe that's why I'm having no luck?). I had my tablet personalized and modified to a place where I was very happy with it, but needed to perform an OS update. I was hoping i could restore all non-system apps, and their data. I made a backup on the external SD card, synched it with Google Drive just to be safe. Performed a reset, updated the tablet, re-rooted it, reinstalled Titanium, and was ready to restore all of my user apps + data. They show in the list that is populated, but are grey with a line through them. When I reinstall them from the Play Store they become restorable again. But... doesn't that defy the point of using a backup program!? A lot of my apps were customized packages too, via Lucky Patcher, etc. I want my versions/data back, not a new replacement
I've tried many, many different settings and suggestions and methods as I've come across them online, but am getting nowhere. I figured it couldn't hurt to ask if someone was very familiar with this app and possibly had some advice.
Thanks!!!