My free space is disappearing for no apparent reason. My problem is that according to DiskUsage, my System Data keep getting inflated, crowding out my free space. I had 20 gig of free space last week, but now it is only 2.6 gig. I spent an hour with ATT tech support, but nothing helped. It has almost no media or downloads. I have cleared cache, removed some unneeded apps, but free space keeps shrinking.
Part of the problem is that there are different results using different memory viewing tools. DiskUsage show this. Free = 2.6 G, Apps = 13.4 G + 7.44 G from App Backup (my apk backups), so Apps = 23 G and System data = 24.7 G. I cannot find a way to make the system data smaller. Here is the screenshot.
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AT&T told me to instead look at Settings - Storage & USB - Internal storage, which shows these numbers for various types of files. Free = 2.6 G, Apps = 38.3 G, Other = 10.2 G, System data = 12.5 G, the rest don't matter. I don't know what "Other" files are. Here is the screenshot.
No one knows how to reduce the inflated System data. I tried to delete system dumpfiles using *#9900# but that won't work on my phone. There are about 2000 zero-byte folders which I have not yet deleted because I wanted to check it out with someone knowledgeable before I did.
This is an unlocked unrooted ATT LG V10 with Marshmallow. After receiving it back from warranty repair, I rebuilt it with my apps about two months ago. Would rooting help? This is the first phone I haven't rooted in years. I also really do not want to have to reinstall the apps. How can I free up space without resetting or rooting?
I have been using App Backup to backup and reinstall all my apks. I delete old versions of apks. That is the only thing I've worked on that involves a lot of space, now 7 gig.
I don't know if this is a clue, but another problem also began a few days ago. When it reboots, it "forgets" about 40 out of 500 apps installed and their icons disappear, usually the same ones each time. It acts like registry entries are lost. All the files and settings remain so when I reinstall those apps myself, everything works like before. If I do not reinstall them myself, the Play store automatically reinstalls them. This keeps happening most time I reboot.
Any ideas? I won't be able to download anything soon without a reset.
ziva1 said:
My free space is disappearing for no apparent reason. My problem is that according to DiskUsage, my System Data keep getting inflated, crowding out my free space. I had 20 gig of free space last week, but now it is only 2.6 gig. I spent an hour with ATT tech support, but nothing helped. It has almost no media or downloads. I have cleared cache, removed some unneeded apps, but free space keeps shrinking.
Part of the problem is that there are different results using different memory viewing tools. DiskUsage show this. Free = 2.6 G, Apps = 13.4 G + 7.44 G from App Backup (my apk backups), so Apps = 23 G and System data = 24.7 G. I cannot find a way to make the system data smaller. Here is the screenshot.
AT&T told me to instead look at Settings - Storage & USB - Internal storage, which shows these numbers for various types of files. Free = 2.6 G, Apps = 38.3 G, Other = 10.2 G, System data = 12.5 G, the rest don't matter. I don't know what "Other" files are. Here is the screenshot.
No one knows how to reduce the inflated System data. I tried to delete system dumpfiles using *#9900# but that won't work on my phone. There are about 2000 zero-byte folders which I have not yet deleted because I wanted to check it out with someone knowledgeable before I did.
This is an unlocked unrooted ATT LG V10 with Marshmallow. After receiving it back from warranty repair, I rebuilt it with my apps about two months ago. Would rooting help? This is the first phone I haven't rooted in years. I also really do not want to have to reinstall the apps. How can I free up space without resetting or rooting?
I have been using App Backup to backup and reinstall all my apks. I delete old versions of apks. That is the only thing I've worked on that involves a lot of space, now 7 gig.
I don't know if this is a clue, but another problem also began a few days ago. When it reboots, it "forgets" about 40 out of 500 apps installed and their icons disappear, usually the same ones each time. It acts like registry entries are lost. All the files and settings remain so when I reinstall those apps myself, everything works like before. If I do not reinstall them myself, the Play store automatically reinstalls them. This keeps happening most time I reboot.
Any ideas? I won't be able to download anything soon without a reset.
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Ok, first off, no root is available for the v10 H900 (At&T) if the phone has android 6.0 and up (marshmellow).
Second. 500 apps?!?!?!? Your standard app count is around 80 on the phones first boot. One problem could be a rouge app that is constantly creating files and folders.
Your storage is all in one chip and is partitioned. You system partition is set, you cant add to it, but in the event of some sort of bug, theres quite a few ways your system memory could be false reading or actually taking on extra data. So lets start some diagnostics.
1. Make a full back up of your phone. (a full wipe may be used with other steps.
2. Download and run Storage Analyzer-https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rjhartsoftware.storageanalyzer
This is going to give us a good idea of whats going on. It digs into each file of your storage. Now yes, it only reads the internal and sd storage but, those partitions may play a part in your problem.
3. Now, on that app, it will also list your total internal memory available for apps and personal files. It excludes your system. So mine shows i have 51.48gb total. So i have about 9 gigs dedicated for system, android file structures and so on. The only thing that can change system storage is the system or system apps themselves. So see if you have anything thats building up in your internal. im wondering if the partition structures are corrupt.
4.Go to general options and then storage and click internal storage, wait for it to calculate all the data. Once its done, look through and see if anything seems off or is oddly using alot of storage, then click app data and see what apps are using the most storage. We want multiple points of detail for your storages, thats why we are looking at your storage usage through many different ways.
5. If you notice something very low like your apps usage, that might be a clue. Because my system usage is apparently capped at 4.5 gigs with 700 mb of free space. Your system should not read 24 gigs.
I know you may have already covered some of this, but there is reason to my insanity so just go with it and PM me there results of your findings. Just include anything that you didnt initially see in your first try at figuring it out. I may have a fix but need to be sure of your results first.
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Omfg anyone at all?!
I've been posting on and off for the past 2 weeks and no one is responding, I've got two threads, one of them being much more urgant right now than the other. Maybe I'm intimidation people with my n00bity, but I really thought providing as much information as I could would get more people better resources to help me. However no one responded so I'll just dumb down my problem and focus on one thing and not multiple things.
So my Intenal Storage space says 0.00B. It doesn't tell me how much available space I have left, but I'm assuming its 0.00B as well. However there is a green bar section saying that 39MB is being used for apps. Now I can't install an app at all on this 0.00B partition, even though this is my main partition where all my system data, settings, misc apps should be stored. If I do manage to find an app that installs on my 2.3GB partition, then the app data being used on Partition 1 will be read as 40.5MB instead of 39MB. If I unistall the app, it will go back to 39MB. Luckily stock came with file manager so i can browse my 1st partition to see that even though I have 0.00B total space showing, theres 500MB worth of data being used somewhere.
Basically I'm asking if anyone here knows how I can get that 0.00B to read AS IT USED TO, so that I can install whatever app I need to. It used to read as I think 500MB total and 300MB available, and 40 green for apps, however that all changed when the fire nation attacked---I mean when I factory reset my device and checked the box to erase the 2.3GB partition.
Ive recently brought a moto g 2015 less than a week ago and have installed some apps, when i originally did this there was over 1.0gb of free internal space left. Over the week the space has shrunk to 500mb and is now notifiitying me that the internal storage is low (i cleared the cache out 3 hours ago and it was 540mb free now its 500mb so that 40mb in a couple of hours?!).
Ive cleared the cache, ive not installed any extra apps and there hasnt been any significant app upgrades that would use this space, also deleted all content from whatsapp etc and looked in the misc part of the storage and theres nothing using the space.
Has anyone else come across this or have any idea whats using the space up?
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rich0898 said:
Ive recently brought a moto g 2015 less than a week ago and have installed some apps, when i originally did this there was over 1.0gb of free internal space left. Over the week the space has shrunk to 500mb and is now notifiitying me that the internal storage is low (i cleared the cache out 3 hours ago and it was 540mb free now its 500mb so that 40mb in a couple of hours?!).
Ive cleared the cache, ive not installed any extra apps and there hasnt been any significant app upgrades that would use this space, also deleted all content from whatsapp etc and looked in the misc part of the storage and theres nothing using the space.
Has anyone else come across this or have any idea whats using the space up?
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Alot of apps/games use alot of data storage so that might be your issue and if your storing stuff from downloading like music and photos etc that will take up space as well
Hi thanks for the reply! I've got all my music and pictures stored on an sdcard and haven't downloaded any on this phone or taken any pictures. I'm just not sure what as suddenly used up all this storage that I can't now use in the space of a couple of hours without me doing anything on the phone or any apps updating
I had that to on a old phone, i think its your google play services.
my tip is to look in your apps and see what apps use to much space, than try to delete it
Probably other apps accumulating stored data, as was mentioned above. Chrome will grow over time, Google drive, Facebook etc.
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You can move apps to the SD also. OP doesn't say they did that, but that can be done. Just go to settings, Apps, and then "ON SD CARD" tab. Any apps that can be moved will show there. Note that not 100% of the apps info can be moved, but most of it can. for example if you have an app that is 100MB, and move it, you will still have about 20MB on internal. Still better than the full 100MB.
Thanks for all the suggestions, ive tried them all and got a lot of free space back. Also found that google drive had 500mb of data which ive deleted!
Rooted Cricket Stylo - System Data "chunk" ENORMOUS! >6GB on 8GB Stylo!
I have the Cricket version of the LG G Stylo (LG-H634), and the "System Data" chunk has gradually ballooned from under 2GB, to take up now more than 6GB of my total 8GB internal storage! I managed to root the device (thanks to these forums), and have been able to delete enough to increase my available storage from under 300MB to almost 600MB (including uninstalling Facebook, which I'd like to reinstall, once I free up more space). Yet the "System Data" chunk hasn't decreased. If anything, it seems like uninstalling apps has, at times, actually caused "System Data" to INCREASE! I've tried everything I've managed to find in these forums, short of either doing a complete factory reset, or hunting down files individually.
I've used multiple "system cleaning" apps, including several that require root access. I use DiskUsage to view the used space (as much as possible), and have used 2 or 3 different file manager apps, trying to make sense of the folder hierarchy. But I have yet to decidedly figure out which folder(s) are even a part of this "System Data" area, let alone, which ones are taking up so much space. PLEASE, someone help! How do I find out what's clogging up my storage, get rid of it, and keep it from getting SO HUGE again?!?
I'm wondering the same thing and which lg apps I can remove and strip out to make room. My storage manager says there is 4.3GB and it's mostly the pre installed crap I never use.
I got my Joying Jeep specific Android 5.1 unit to recognize a 128 GB Samsung EVO card.
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What is the best way to get apps to work on it?
Some apps say "Move to SD Card"
And after you move them it shows as "Move to Device"
But on Google Play Music the option to Move to SD Card is grayed out
Another interesting note, the Google Play Music app version on my Joying is the same as the version on my Samsung S7 Edge, but the "Storage Location" option is missing on Joying
Joying
Samsung S7 Edge
I am downloading my Playlist from Google Play Music on the Joying so I don't have to use data.
you might try malaysk rom with fuse (merging spaces together) function!
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you might try malaysk rom with fuse (merging spaces together) function!
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I might have to try that. Anyone done that successfully with MTCD? I will look around, but sometimes XDA gets confusing cause there are too many topics that get derailed. Anyone know a link to a guide for stupid dumb dumbs that will show me how to back up my current Joying so I dont break it, then get the right Malaysk ROM so I can merge stuff?
this one looks pretty good:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=en
even has a video guide
CadillacMike said:
this one looks pretty good:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=en
even has a video guide
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Honestly, dont bother with the rom that it ships with. Its crap. The custom rom is better but its still not good.
you cant move play music because its a system app. If you dont want to use a custom rom then root and use titanium backup to change play music or uninstall it and reinstall from playstore.
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you cant move play music because its a system app. If you dont want to use a custom rom then root and use titanium backup to change play music or uninstall it and reinstall from playstore.
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Can you explain this a little more? How would i use titanium backup to change play music? I did install Google Play Music from the Play Store, it didn't come with the head unit. I dont really need the whole app on the SD card, I just want it to store the music it downloads on the sd card, which is how it works on my Samsung S7 Edge. That may be an Android 6.0 feature though, I'm not sure.
CadillacMike said:
I got my Joying Jeep specific Android 5.1 unit to recognize a 128 GB Samsung EVO card.
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Did you just plug it in and it worked? Did you have to do something special?
I'm having issues with Plex and US Topo maps saving/caching to the external sd myself. I'm going to try rooting and installing Apps2SD and I'll let you know what happens.
I'm also going to try to add some swap space since it's pretty universally accepted that this unit doesn't have enough ram. I would like to believe the onboard NAND flash is faster than an SD card but I've not found that to always be the case. Some of the premium sd brands can have really fast transfer speeds 80-90mb/s and you get speed boost by using them as swap. We'll see. Keep in mind this only helps out with inactive applications. The Android application life cycle is supposed to be a fancy form of swapping but I've found lots of apps don't properly use the technology. Swapping avoids that by saving the entire RAM state of the application to swap when inactive, so when you switch back things are a bit quicker because the entire state loads from swap not just the bits that were bundled via the app.
I have a RK3188 and I saw a review that just ripped it to shreds but honestly I'm not having any big speed issues with it so far. All of mine are based on software things like the inability to pair with anything not named ODBII. And this issue with the SD card.
I've considered removing the goofy home screen animation for good measure but have yet to pull the trigger.
Now to figure out how to properly root it.
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Did you just plug it in and it worked? Did you have to do something special?
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When I plugged in the 128 GB at first it did not recognize it. I went to Storage in Settings and Erased that card, then Mounted it, and it worked.
however I still have the issue of not moving app data to external SD cards. I love Google Play Music, but just can't find a good way to move that offline storage there. So I'm currently trying Slacker and Spotify. I will report back with my findings.
I tried what claims to be the original App2sd, AppMgr III:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en
it is very user friendly, and just shows which apps can be moved and which can't, but I dont know that it really does anything other than that Move to SD option in the App settings menu
I also tried Link2Sd:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&hl=en
but to use the full options you need the paid version, but you also have to already have the SD card partioned properly. Whicn Link2sd can't do. Also didn't look like there was really a way to do what I really wanted. I dont want to sacrifice speed for storage. So ideally, I want the app on the internal, and just the offline songs on the exteranl, which is how my Samsung S7 Edge lets me do it
So i went to this App2sd one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=en
And it has a great interface and a lot of features, such as allowing you to partition a card from the app. But I didn't know what sizes to use for optimal performance or what to use for the 2nd partition. Still trying to find some guide that isn't several years old.
I did remove that 128GB card for a 64GB Samsung Pro+, cause it has faster read/write speeds
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When I plugged in the 128 GB at first it did not recognize it. I went to Storage in Settings and Erased that card, then Mounted it, and it worked.
however I still have the issue of not moving app data to external SD cards. I love Google Play Music, but just can't find a good way to move that offline storage there. So I'm currently trying Slacker and Spotify. I will report back with my findings.
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OK! After a day and a night of bricking rooting and flashing I found a solution.
com.devasque.fmount (can't post a link... too new on xda forums.) But an app named FolderMount [ROOT]
Foldermount. I'll save the details of how I got there for my review thread, but in short if you can root your device and install foldermount. Then if you can find the directory where the offline music is currently being stored, you can move it to the external storage. I'm currently running it with the Malaysk RK3188 firmware version 4 and it's looking good so far.
I'm doing this with Plex and US Topo maps now with no serious issue between last night and my drive in today and I've confirmed that it is indeed saving the offline data to the correct folder on the SD card.
The external sds are mounted at /mnt/external_sd and /mnt/external_sd2. GPS, and SD respectively. Ideally, when you set it up to send to one of those devices it would be wise to allow it to automatically create the folder. Without any tweaking it was smart enough to see the mount points as well.
i ended up bailing on Google Play Music and going to Spotify. Same price for the family plan, and it has the options for saving to SD card available, no tweaks required:
Interface looks good too:
The horizontal interface for GPM is kind of lame, these next two are from my phone, but it is basically the same for the Joying, I just didn't take pics:
Google Play Music
Spotify
Glad to see you found a solution. Unfortunately, I doubt this app will be the only situation where you have this issue. I've already used FolderMount to successfully redirect google maps cache, US topo maps, Plex, and a few others. I also confirmed that it is saving the cached data to the correct location. Total boot time for those apps can be a bit longer (you have to wait for the toaster popup saying they've been redirected but we're talking about seconds not minutes so it's a sacrifice that wasn't too hard to make.
I've had my z5 compact for a year now and it has been a solid phone. For the past week or two, however, the storage on the device has been reaching its capacity.
All of my photos and other media have been moved to the SD Card, along with most apps that are able to be transferred. The problem I'm having is that the apps take up way too much storage space.
I'm baffled by why this has been happening. I did recently update my phone's firmware (to 6.0.1). However, the storage taken up by system is only 9.42gb while apps is at 22.85gb. cached data is only a few megabytes. I have constantly been clearing app cached data.
Admittedly, Final Fantasy IX is installed, but on the SD Card. 2nd place to largest amount of space is Google Play Services at 357MB (obviously on the device). I have 5 pages of apps (20 apps per page, 96 apps total), so I feel like I'm not going overboard on them. And only recently have I needed to remove apps to be able to update some. I used to have way more apps installed and have had to completely remove some.
What else can be done? It seems like even when I free up space taken up by the apps, it's quickly filled up again. I'm currently at 31.50GB of 32GB full.