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Android based clones (S4 / HTC etc..) full review

Hi,
So i have wanted to do an experiment with ordering and using a clone phone and really see for once: "is it worth it ?"
Well let me start of things i liked with the clone phones:
1. screen is not perfect but good enough and there is no need for more than what they give
2. most of the clone phone have a "FS Tool" (flashing tool) that you can restore your broken device
3. the clone is really good looking and fool allot of people that already had the same device and couldn't belive it at first that this is indeed a fake.
now to the acctuall bad part that due the following i would probably never buy a clone phone:
1. the phone heat while talking after about 5 minutes of talk - radiation anyone ?
2. mic sound is bad - the person that you are talking to him some times will tell you he hears you like you are far away from the phone...
3. battery sucks ! - to build a phone that could actually have good battery lifetime need to be designed to hold with a battery....
even for those that can use original battery the battery drains quicker then it should hold..
4. no replaceable parts... - are you really going to ship your phone to chaina if you will have a borken device ?!
5. no ROM support... - well some claim to have ROM support but that's just no real support..
6. head set microphone jack of the cell phone is really really bad sound quality.
7. Some of the clone can't sync your phone with contacts from gmail or any type of sync for that matter...
8. this phone is comming from chaina , wanna bet there is a bot/root-kit pre-installed on this device ? what promises that we wouldn't get
a root kit / hardware root kit on this device and getting your user name and passwords ?
9. GPS suck .. sometime they got it right .. most cases they don't ..
10. you can't belive the sellers about the screen resolution (they lie) or CPU type your are going to get (some putting you the dual core instead of the quad core) .. some lies also about the RAM size and the internal ROM size.. and the internal SD card takes over and you can't use your new external SD card because of this damn device doesn't configure correctly the "USE FROM SD CARD AND NOT INTERNAL ..."
11. camera suck!! very slow and with really low quality..
over all,
you will be getting a toy cell phone that will cost you between 160$-250$ depended on the model and quality..
for this amount of money it is not worth it and i have returned the phone and got money back ..
so, don't get cell phone unless you are willing to throw money and not getting what you may think you are going to get..
Regards,
LaBBa.

Kingzone K1 Turbo / K1S Video Review - MT6592 - NFC - Wireless Charging

Hi guys
I just got this phone and I wanted to share this with you:
Specs:
5.5" inch capacitive 5-Point Multi Touch Screen
Display 1920x1080 pixel Full HD resolution, IPS-Display, LTPS-technology
CPU: MTK6592 true octa-core @1.7GHz
GPU: Mali 450-MP
Android 4.2.x Jelly Bean
2GB RAM / 16GB of internal memory / TF-card support
Quadband, unlocked, 3G / UMTS / HSDPA+ / WCDMA
Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS, A-GPS, g-sensor, proximity sensor, light sensor, magnetic field sensor, gyro sensor, notification LED
OTG - USB on the go
NFC - Near Field Communication
Air Gesture Control
Wireless charging (with smart cover)
OTA - Over the Air firmware updates
Main camera: 14MP output ,autofocus, LED flash, F2.2
Front camera: 8MP output , autofocus, F.2.4
Dual Sim - Dual Standby (regular size and Micro Sim)
More pictures to be found here: http://colonelzap.blogspot.de/2014/05/kingzone-k1-turbo-video-review-mt6592.html
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.

I get this, too. The metal chassis feels premium. A little bit expensive though.

I too received mine last week.
overall this is a really good phone , nicely built , beautifull full hd screen , very fast.
only negative point , but i don't know if this come from my unit or if its general issue from this phone,
the WIFI and Bluetooth signal are weaker than my other phone ( Samsung Omnia 7 / Sony XPERIA U )
if i stand in my rooter room i got no problem , but if i go in my kitchen , i lose signal while the 2 other phone have very low but some signal still.
And about bluetooth , when i connect my audio headset , and put the phone in my pocket it sometimes disconnect when i turn my head in the opposite direction of my holster .
that never happended with my Omnia7.
Actually i can live w/o bluetooth but the WIFI signal at my job is low in my office as being far from rooter and i get trouble connecting
Can you guys test your WIFI and bluetooth signal ? against other smartphone ?

everything is just works fine , only we need custom roms

platypus2308 said:
And about bluetooth , when i connect my audio headset , and put the phone in my pocket it sometimes disconnect when i turn my head in the opposite direction of my holster .
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AFAIK every Mediatek phone with Android 4.2.2 suffers from that issue. Might be better with the upcoming 4.4 ... hopefully.

Ulster94 said:
AFAIK every Mediatek phone with Android 4.2.2 suffers from that issue. Might be better with the upcoming 4.4 ... hopefully.
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this phone runs android 4.3.9 but it might be the same . i hope it software or firmware related .
i contacted the shop but i doubt they will do anything as it does works but the signal is just a bit weak IMHO.
and i guess the chip is the same for bluetooth and wifi ... so same problem.
edit: made a picture but can't link it here due to being newbie

platypus2308 said:
this phone runs android 4.3.9 but it might be the same .
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It definitely does NOT run on Android 4.3.9, an Android version like that does not exist!
As I said in my video, I am sure it runs on 4.2.x, probably 4.2.2
I also don't have any problems with Wifi at all, with MY setup, this phone has a very powerful wifi reception, a LOT better than most of the other phones I had so far

ColonelZap said:
It definitely does NOT run on Android 4.3.9, an Android version like that does not exist!
As I said in my video, I am sure it runs on 4.2.x, probably 4.2.2
I also don't have any problems with Wifi at all, with MY setup, this phone has a very powerful wifi reception, a LOT better than most of the other phones I had so far
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well i received a message from the shop this morning to send the device back.
guess i'll send it back as it seems my device is faulty.

As ColonelZap wrote - it is definitively Android 4.2.2 and not 4.3.9. There are currently no drivers from Mediatek for Android 4.3.x.
I have two other phones with a Mediatek cpu and both have the same BT issues like the K1, not with a headset (never tried) but with car connections (different cars verified). Establishing a connection is never an issue but any transmission is interrupted. Sometimes earlier sometimes later (1 min upto 5 min.)
But the WLAN connection of my K1 is pretty fine.So maybe your device has a hardware issue in addition.

Ulster94 said:
But the WLAN connection of my K1 is pretty fine.So maybe your device has a hardware issue in addition.
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yeah , i think that too , but what worries me is that the WIFI does works , just not so well , so i hope they don't send the same unit again...
well i will write down the serial number and IMEI and see
thanks for the feedback guys.

Just ordered this phone, i hopes everything runs well, waiting for another review or issues of the batteries, gps and etc?
@colonel zap can you share with us what you are doing with this phone until it's so powerful like that?
Thanx in advance :good:

maxilimian said:
@colonel zap can you share with us what you are doing with this phone until it's so powerful like that?
Thanx in advance :good:
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What am I doing with this phone? Not much, so far I only "tested" it
I made a little "update" video:
And I also uploaded a few camera test pictures on my blog:
http://colonelzap.blogspot.de/2014/05/kingzone-k1-turbo-video-review-mt6592.html

terrible phone call quality
Hello I had 6 chinese MTK phones in the past 3 years. This one has the best build quality. Howeve it has ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE voice/call quality, the other side can hardly understand me over all the humming, hissing, parts of words missing. So far I have not been able to complete a single phone call without the óther person saying "I can hardly understand you and what is all the noise and humming" This occurs in areas with very strong signal and gets even worse with weaker signal. It is impossible to make the phone call with less than 4 signal bars out of 5.
So far terrible experience at this price.
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maxilimian said:
Just ordered this phone, i hopes everything runs well, waiting for another review or issues of the batteries, gps and etc?
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GPS locks fast and has strong reception - NO GLONAS SUPPORT (or at least during the testing I did not receive a single GLONASS sattelite) contrary to what is sometimes mentioned on certain chinese sites.
With 1-2 phone calls, hour of wifi and hour od GPS battery has about 40% at the end of the day.

tomisdn said:
Howeve it has ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE voice/call quality, the other side can hardly understand me over all the humming, hissing, parts of words missing.
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Are you sure your microphone is o.k.? Have you tested a voice recorder? So far nobody I had on the phone has complained to me that they can't hear me well?!?

ColonelZap said:
Are you sure your microphone is o.k.? Have you tested a voice recorder? So far nobody I had on the phone has complained to me that they can't hear me well?!?
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Voice recorder as well as VOIP (Skype test service). Standard and OK sound quality.
Only occurs during phone calls. I have not yet had one without the person saying he/she can't hear me well or at all...

tomisdn said:
Voice recorder as well as VOIP (Skype test service). Standard and OK sound quality.
Only occurs during phone calls. I have not yet had one without the person saying he/she can't hear me well or at all...
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I only made a couple of phone calls so far and for "testing purposes" I always leave myself a message on my machine, sound quality was just fine! My service provider operates on GSM1800 (eplus Germany).

ColonelZap said:
I only made a couple of phone calls so far and for "testing purposes" I always leave myself a message on my machine, sound quality was just fine! My service provider operates on GSM1800 (eplus Germany).
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This is clearly related to the HW/FW of this one phone. It occured right out-of-box during first call and persisted ever since. It is not related to the GSM signal, location, provider (tested 2 different providers), contact I am calling.... Second phone I have in identical situation work jsut OK.
Not saying this affects all units, just sayng to be careful when buying.
Support from Kingzone is ZERO (sent 3 requests for advice and/or firmware file to try reflash)
If someone finds or gathers stock ROM let me know.
Tomas

I made some sample camera pictures:

Does anybody in the USA have this phone? If so, what service are you using it on and what kind of data speeds are you seeing?

ColonelZap said:
What am I doing with this phone? Not much, so far I only "tested" it
I made a little "update" video:
And I also uploaded a few camera test pictures on my blog:
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Already watch it before posting so you only root it?hehe
Waiting for availability of the cwm or twrp that might works?
tomisdn said:
Hello I had 6 chinese MTK phones in the past 3 years. This one has the best build quality. Howeve it has ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE voice/call quality, the other side can hardly understand me over all the humming, hissing, parts of words missing. So far I have not been able to complete a single phone call without the óther person saying "I can hardly understand you and what is all the noise and humming" This occurs in areas with very strong signal and gets even worse with weaker signal. It is impossible to make the phone call with less than 4 signal bars out of 5.
So far terrible experience at this price.
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GPS locks fast and has strong reception - NO GLONAS SUPPORT (or at least during the testing I did not receive a single GLONASS sattelite) contrary to what is sometimes mentioned on certain chinese sites.
With 1-2 phone calls, hour of wifi and hour od GPS battery has about 40% at the end of the day.
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A-GPS support? wondering the battery durability with the 3G signal on the whole days ...
tomisdn said:
This is clearly related to the HW/FW of this one phone. It occured right out-of-box during first call and persisted ever since. It is not related to the GSM signal, location, provider (tested 2 different providers), contact I am calling.... Second phone I have in identical situation work jsut OK.
Not saying this affects all units, just sayng to be careful when buying.
Support from Kingzone is ZERO (sent 3 requests for advice and/or firmware file to try reflash)
If someone finds or gathers stock ROM let me know.
Tomas
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Wow i think it's hardware problem if colonel zap or other didn't have the same problem, or maybe the problem is with another person phone/provider which made a call with you? since you didn't have problem hearing the calls from her/him?
Ulster94 said:
As ColonelZap wrote - it is definitively Android 4.2.2 and not 4.3.9. There are currently no drivers from Mediatek for Android 4.3.x.
I have two other phones with a Mediatek cpu and both have the same BT issues like the K1, not with a headset (never tried) but with car connections (different cars verified). Establishing a connection is never an issue but any transmission is interrupted. Sometimes earlier sometimes later (1 min upto 5 min.)
But the WLAN connection of my K1 is pretty fine.So maybe your device has a hardware issue in addition.
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I found the articles on another sites, that i think JB 4.3.9 is somekind of CusROM called Ali Cloud OS .. similar thing like AMIGO OS JB ?

[q] jlab pro-7

I recently brought a cheap android tablet (JLAB PRO-7) from Staples on Black Friday. Has anyone flashed a rom or did anything with this particular tablet?
I tried rooting it even though it came partly rooted and now evey time it is cut off or it reboots it is back to as if it came straight out the box. Do any one have any idea on a fix for this?
PRODUCT DETAILS
Basic Tablet Offers Reliable Internet and Email
The Jlab 7-Inch Tablet comes with 8GB of storage, plus an expansion slot for an addition 32GB of microSD memory. It uses a dual-core Cortex A7 1.2 GHz Processor and 512MB RAM. The .3 MP front-facing camera makes video chats easy, and integrated speakers provide clear sound for voice, video, or music. The tablet runs on a rechargeable lithium battery, which lasts 3 to 4 hours on a full charge.
Allwinner Boxchip A23 Dual Core Cortex A7 1.2GHz Processor
7” display, 1024 x 600 resolution
512MB DDR3 system memory
8GB with micro SD slot for up to 32GB additional storage
Webcam: 0.3MP Front Facing Camera
Integrated speakers
XP/Vista/Win7/Win8 & Mac OS 10.4 or later
Android™ 4.4 KitKat
Handles Movies, Music, and Email All in One Place
Watch movies in widescreen format, listen to your favorite songs, surf the web, and check email, all from one device. A microSD expansion slot supports up to 32GB of additional storage.
Front-Facing Camera for Video Calls
The front-facing 0.3 MP camera and integrated speakers make video calls easy.
Package Contents
JLab Pro-7 7-Inch Tablet, 8GB (JLAB PRO-7), charger, and user manual.
SPECIFICATIONS
Tablet Screen Size (Inches) 7
Tablet Resolution 1024 x 600
Tablet Processor Details Allwinner Boxchip A23 Dual Core Cortex
Tablet Processor Speed 1.2GHz
Tablet Memory Size Details 8GB
Tablet Memory Expandable 32GB (w/ Micros SD slot)
Tablet RAM 512MB DDR3
Tablet Operating System Android
Audio Details Integrated Speakers
Camera 0.3MP Front Facing Camera
Battery Life Filter 3-4 hours
Battery 2400mAh Li-Polymer Battery

Glad someone else is looking to root JLAB also!
I am desperately looking for info on this also. You left out the biggest surprise and annoyance with this low-end tablet...NO ABILITY TO MOVE APPS TO THE SD CARD!!! This thing is running 4.4.2 for Chris sake! After OS install, you only have 5GB internal memory. I put a 32GB card on it in order to shuffle off the app memory hogs and I can't even use it!!! <calming down...>
As a result, I get "insufficient memory available" errors for many programs. And some won't even consider the tablet for install. I know you get what you pay for, but the specs on this thing aren't awful. It just needs a decent OS on it. I tried loading into the bootloader once and almost bricked it. When rebooted, the "JLAB" opening screen came up and just stayed there...forever. I finally had to leave it on overnight to completely run down the battery to get it back from the abyss.
Please, if anyone has this thing and is able to put a decent rooted OS on it, post it here. Thank you!

+1 any headway?

I got one for xmas from a friend... I was able to root it with kingo root tool for windows.
I hope this helps.
Make sure debug mode is on in developers options.
To enable this mode clicking the "build number" a few times in system settings.
It rooted my device but i ran into a few issues. First every time the device does a full restart it makes me do the welcome wizard also
(unsure if my defective or not) my wifi signal becomes extremely weak even though i am sitting next to the router.

Kewlz now that we have root all we need is a custom recovery. Id be willing to test out a recovery if someone wants to make one.

I found out the all these cheap tablets are rebraned the manufactor is trio they also sell tablets under their own name.

For the love of God please make a room for this. It's often rebranded please let us know if it works with some other room.

enp82003 said:
I got one for xmas from a friend... I was able to root it with kingo root tool for windows.
I hope this helps.
Make sure debug mode is on in developers options.
To enable this mode clicking the "build number" a few times in system settings.
It rooted my device but i ran into a few issues. First every time the device does a full restart it makes me do the welcome wizard also
(unsure if my defective or not) my wifi signal becomes extremely weak even though i am sitting next to the router.
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I also rooted my Pro 7 using KingoRoot and am now facing the issue of a factory reset every time the device restarts or powers off/powers on. Were you, or anyone else able to solve this problem? Thanks!

I did not resolve the issue. I returned the thing and got my money back. There are much better options out there then this cheapo thing.

There are definitely better options but it was free on cyber Monday at tiger direct. It will be a decent tablet for my young son if I'm able to get it sorted.

wewantutopia said:
There are definitely better options but it was free on cyber Monday at tiger direct. It will be a decent tablet for my young son if I'm able to get it sorted.
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I agree with you. But logically it's been a year and these China tablets see no dev love. Unless you know the inners of android OS... I wouldn't suggest it because you will be taking on issues like this alone. ebay the Toshiba Thrive. They are really cheap now and run so much better. If i remember right someone made custom kitkat for it. It's really durable and strong perfect for a kid.

enp82003 said:
I got one for xmas from a friend... I was able to root it with kingo root tool for windows.
I hope this helps.
Make sure debug mode is on in developers options.
To enable this mode clicking the "build number" a few times in system settings.
It rooted my device but i ran into a few issues. First every time the device does a full restart it makes me do the welcome wizard also
(unsure if my defective or not) my wifi signal becomes extremely weak even though i am sitting next to the router.
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It's been several years since I had an android device but I go the same black friday deal and figured that it would be a great ereader (free). Now I need a little more room so I'm trying to root but both kingo and king root failed for me.. Any ideas? I'm on a mac running windows through a VM but I don't think that is the issue.

Your version is obviously newer as this thread was made last Xmas. As I stated these devices have little to no support so finding a working root would be hard. Your computers os shouldn't matter. If you want an easy root return the device and get a name brand device.

UNEXPECTED SHUTDOWN UMI ROME MTK6753 Octa Core 64Bit 4G

Hello
I have UMI ROME MTK6753 Octa Core 64Bit 4G
From about 1 week, the phone turns off suddenly even if the battery level is above 90 % .
Even not hold a charge even if it is connected to the charger .
I bought the phone in January.
I Wind operator .
For six months there have been no problems .
Suggestions ?
Stefano

Same here.

Which firmware are you on? I have two Umi Rome phones, one on 3.03 and another on 3.04, and neither have this issue. I suggest you go to the umidigi forum to get the latest version (currently 3.05)

I ordered a new battery. Now it works fine...I hope for almost a year...

Hi.
Same here, bought a new one!!!
Firmware 3.01.
Now i have another UMI Rome problem!!!
Everything i touch on the display, do another process, menu or letter!!!
Made a factory reset and stays the same shi...
Thanks.

I had the same problem with my UMI Rome. Noticed the charge dropping very quickly, or the phone randomly shutting down and then after re-enabling the smartphone it was like 40%. Also, battery got a little swollen and I got a new one. It's working but the battery life / time on is not as good as was the stock one (even though it looks 1:1 the same).
I am on Firmware 3.04, updated via UMI software.
I also have a problem with the touchscreen, it's like its getting inaccurate, I have to press way lower than I actually need (like press below a big button to actually click on it). I have to look into recalibration.
On another note (sorry for a bit of an offtopic), anyone tried unrooting / magisk / phh's su to successfully play Pokemon GO? I haven't updated since their 0.35 version because I heard of the root checks and now that they enforced 0.39, I'm looking for a way to play it...
I am really unhappy with the UMI Rome, they promissed way more than they delivered. Battery life since the beginning wasn't satisfactory, now it's super bad. Screen isn't amoled, and there are multitouch and generally touch issues... the metal parts get scratched very easily, the plastic case I got is lowering my wifi reception really bad... Everything seems wrong.

Does over using a phone cause significant hardware degradation?

I have a LYF Wind 7 with a 1.3 GhZ Quad core snapdragon 210 and 2 GB RAM. The phone was snappy and slick when I got it. But now after 1.5 years, it has become so laggy that it's become impossible to use it. Whenever I open dialler, it takes 5-10 seconds. The back button responds 10 seconds later while inside WhatsApp or any other app. Even after factory reset, it runs fast for a day, but returns to being laggy. The firmware is the latest version. Tried force stopping all apps with greenify but nothing works. Internal memory is 3 GB free.
Now my confession is, I have overused the phone. I have often used the phone's hotspot with Jio as my primary data connection. Now is it possible that a phone's hardware can degrade this way? I'm planning to buy the Zenfone Max Pro M1 but will it get laggy like this phone if I overuse it by using it as hotspot?

serotono said:
I have a LYF Wind 7 with a 1.3 GhZ Quad core snapdragon 210 and 2 GB RAM. The phone was snappy and slick when I got it. But now after 1.5 years, it has become so laggy that it's become impossible to use it. Whenever I open dialler, it takes 5-10 seconds. The back button responds 10 seconds later while inside WhatsApp or any other app. Even after factory reset, it runs fast for a day, but returns to being laggy. The firmware is the latest version. Tried force stopping all apps with greenify but nothing works. Internal memory is 3 GB free.
Now my confession is, I have overused the phone. I have often used the phone's hotspot with Jio as my primary data connection. Now is it possible that a phone's hardware can degrade this way? I'm planning to buy the Zenfone Max Pro M1 but will it get laggy like this phone if I overuse it by using it as hotspot?
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i dont think so