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Annoyed at having to wait for ICS or JB?

The press anti-Android spin this year has moved on from Fragmntation myths, to upgrade timescales. I would like to ask WHY Android owners expect to get upgrades the moment they are announced...
I mean if you wanted prompt updates, then the ONLY way is to buy a network-free Nexus handset. If you cheapskate and buy a network subsidised handset, why should you expect to get it the same time as Google can do without any hurdles in the way... If you buy a network-locked Nexus device, the network operator will want to get involved, if you buy a non-Nexus device locked to a network, then you not additionally have to wait for the hardware manufacturers tweaks.
This really isn't rocket science, so I am wondering why users expectations are so out of kilter with reality....
I don't own a Nexus device (although I do have a Nexus7 on pre-order), and whilst all my devices now have ICS, I wasn't losing sleep until ICS arrived, as in the Android world, you don't exactly lose very much, all Android apps works on all OS versions (pretty-much). Sure you might mis out on OS features, but not much else...

And what was the point of all that? You got pre-ordered a Nexus 7. Good for you, but the rest is clear to all of us. And i have seen people gettin mad about updates because the manifacture gave a specific date and didn't hold on the promise.....

everyone is different. Some are still happy with froyo and some others want to see jb on their phones as soon as possible most probably to test the project butter. Every release brings some improvement and humans have tendency to get the "improved version" of anything as soon as possible

chaki- said:
And what was the point of all that? You got pre-ordered a Nexus 7. Good for you, but the rest is clear to all of us. And i have seen people gettin mad about updates because the manifacture gave a specific date and didn't hold on the promise.....
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Agreed. LG owners of models bought a year ago, which stated in the literature of LG they would get ics are still waiting. It was only recently we got gingerbread on some and that's why some get annoyed.
Manufacturers should honour their commitments or simply stop promising what they can't or won't deliver.
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Actually if you're not in the U.S, carriers don't wait Half a year and install their sh!tware, they leave it up to the manufacturer to release it.
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Actually if you're not in the U.S, carriers don't wait Half a year and install their sh!tware, they leave it up to the manufacturer to release it.
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AFAIK, subsidies are rare outside of the US so you're paying full price for your phone.

063_XOBX said:
AFAIK, subsidies are rare outside of the US so you're paying full price for your phone.
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Nope they are quite common at least in UK, here anyone can get phones subsidised by their carrier provided they take a contract for x amount of months. Often you get the phone for "free" but sometimes pay a percentage yourself.
Or you can buy from a third party and they can offer phones on contract with your chosen carrier that are also subsidised which is what I chose to do last year.
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- Swift - said:
Actually if you're not in the U.S, carriers don't wait Half a year and install their sh!tware, they leave it up to the manufacturer to release it.
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I thought that but it isn't quite correct as LG told me that if your phone is supplied by your carrier in UK it is they who put the updates out.
Apparently LG send them it and the carrier adds anything they want before offering it to the customer.
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It's been 1.5 years since atrix was first released and there is still no ics for us.

- Swift - said:
Actually if you're not in the U.S, carriers don't wait Half a year and install their sh!tware, they leave it up to the manufacturer to release it.
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That's not true. It took T-Mobile a good few months after the US to release gingerbread for my girlfriends Atrix.
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Atrix_Owner said:
It's been 1.5 years since atrix was first released and there is still no ics for us.
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Probably not coming then. It's not on Moto's list of devices getting ICS.

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Probably not coming then. It's not on Moto's list of devices getting ICS.
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Nah moto has it slated to come out Q3
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Well that's the UK.
I live in Ireland, And all updates are rolled out by the manufacturer.
And yes, we do have subsidies here too. Not sure about the countries past the UK though.

- Swift - said:
Well that's the UK.
I live in Ireland, And all updates are rolled out by the manufacturer.
And yes, we do have subsidies here too. Not sure about the countries past the UK though.
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I just had to check this to be sure but Ireland and UK both follow same system which is European, whereby carriers release updates for the phones purchased direct from them.
If your phone is getting updates from manufacturer yet is using stock shop bought rom you're probably either lucky or got it from a source other than your carrier as apparently it is supposed to be the same as in UK.
Edit: by an odd coincidence the Irish times also mentioned this being the case http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2012/0712/1224319858525.html so you might just be very lucky
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Well its happened with my X8, and my current phone, the XPERIA Play.
When I first got the phone there was NO carrier bloat ware on it?!
Both phones. But on my Dads X8 (which we bought on the same day, same shop) it had the bloatware.
But when he updated his phone there was no bloat ware, so I'm guessing he was also getting the update via the manufacturer?

Most people don't care or even know what version of Android they are running. As long as they can still download their favorite apps they don't care if they are a few versions behind. Think of all the people out there still running XP on their desktops since it still gets the job done.

Yu no cyanogenmod?
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im not waiting cause i alredy got ics
sony is reliable for software updates.
my xpeira ray was released on november , got ics at april along with arc s and neo v but the only problem is they still release phones with gingerbread
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Just root and flash a ROM.
I don't get why people complain about updating on a modding site.
If you've had an Android phone for more than 6 months, you should know the drill.
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I Am Marino said:
Just root and flash a ROM.
I don't get why people complain about updating on a modding site.
If you've had an Android phone for more than 6 months, you should know the drill.
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But this is BOTH a modding AND a general Android site, Plus the fact that it is so popular.

There Is No Android L Update. For G & E

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Well there will be custom roms of android l for sure

oh guys c'mon already -.- please stop asking the support. the support actually does not know anything related to android L update. some of theem said we will get the android L update and other support members said we won't get the update. they don't know anything.
you can expect that our old moto g will be upgraded to android L
watch this and skip to 21:00 minutes, Steve Sinclair will say that people who got the older devices can expect the android L update for Moto X and Moto G aswell

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False! The french service confirmed to me the Android L update yesterday for Moto G 1, 2, 4G LTE, X, X2 and maybe E..

OMG people, I worked as a HP support assistant and in the support nobody knows anything about future steps by it's company.. they ONLY know that what is actually happening. But they must reply, so if Motorola supprot haven't recieved an information about L update on Moto G 2013, they are supposed to tell you that Moto G will not be updated in this time. But that doesn't mean anything. That only mean that they have not recieved shedule for an update yet. And only high chairs in motorola knows if there ever be shedule for an update to L.
but if Steven Sinclair (software product manager for motorola mobility) said:
Also as you look to past versions of Moto X, Moto G, you can expect there will be... we'll be looking on that upgrade to L as well.
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Then you can expect the update and since nobody more competent than him doesn't tell anything about Moto G and update, then his words are final and stop the dabate.

2hipso said:
but if Steven Sinclair (software product manager for motorola mobility) said:
Then you can expect the update and since nobody more competent than him doesn't tell anything about Moto G and update, then his words are final and stop the dabate.
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Hmmm. Yeah....well....but was the audio dubbed? Illuminati putting words in his mouth?
THEY don't want us to know people!!
THEY say it will cause a rift in the fabric of spacetime that could install PocketPC 5 on our Moto!!
:laugh: :angel:
C'mon guys, your phone works fine right?. Android L AOSP will be ported anyways...

MiyagiSan said:
Hmmm. Yeah....well....but was the audio dubbed? Illuminati putting words in his mouth?
THEY don't want us to know people!!
THEY say it will cause a rift in the fabric of spacetime that could install PocketPC 5 on our Moto!!
:laugh: :angel:
C'mon guys, your phone works fine right?. Android L AOSP will be ported anyways...
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thx, I forgot about illuminati ... hell NO UPDATE for MOTO G 1st gen - sorry... never ever .. 100% kawaii

LOL, just visit XDA forum in two months, guys who desire "L" on Moto G
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MiyagiSan said:
Hmmm. Yeah....well....but was the audio dubbed? Illuminati putting words in his mouth?
THEY don't want us to know people!!
THEY say it will cause a rift in the fabric of spacetime that could install PocketPC 5 on our Moto!!
:laugh: :angel:
C'mon guys, your phone works fine right?. Android L AOSP will be ported anyways...
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the audio is just a bit asynchronus. very suspicious. Illuminati? NSA? Area 51? oh god i knew it they have a plan to change the world xD

GodOfPsychos said:
the audio is just a bit asynchronus. very suspicious. Illuminati? NSA? Area 51? oh god i knew it they have a plan to change the world xD
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They might leave the 2013 dual sim moto g on 4.4.4.These markets need to be milked, so I would say that the XT1033 might skip Android "L" for good.
But no fear men, there are plenty of alternatives out there that will provide L.

Android L Upgrade confirmed for Moto E, Moto X, and Moto G
Motorola has officially confirmed the Android L upgrade for the Moto E, Moto G (1st and 2nd generation), and Moto X (1st and 2nd Generation).
Proof here:
www [dot] androidmagnified.com/android-l-update-moto-e-moto-g-moto-x

aschauhan0902 said:
Motorola has officially confirmed the Android L upgrade for the Moto E, Moto G (1st and 2nd generation), and Moto X (1st and 2nd Generation).
Proof here:
www [dot] androidmagnified.com/android-l-update-moto-e-moto-g-moto-x
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Yeah, don't trust anything until you have the update in your own phone, learned that a while ago from various OEMs.

aschauhan0902 said:
Motorola has officially confirmed the Android L upgrade for the Moto E, Moto G (1st and 2nd generation), and Moto X (1st and 2nd Generation).
Proof here:
www [dot] androidmagnified.com/android-l-update-moto-e-moto-g-moto-x
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Motorola has officially promised the Android L upgrade for the Moto E, Moto G (1st and 2nd generation), and Moto X (1st and 2nd Generation).
Indirect evidence (of Motorola making the promise) here:
www.androidmagnified.com/android-l-update-moto-e-moto-g-moto-x
More direct evidence (of Motorola making the promise) here:
http://www.motorola-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google-and-motorola-more.html
Remain to be seen if the promise will be fulfilled. I expect that it will but...

Promise? What promise? Remember Motorola is still part of Google, at least until sometime next year, probably early 2015. Then it gets handed over to Lenovo when the deal closes. It's official, all these phones are getting the lollipop upgrade. Every GPE device is getting it too, including the first generation G, "in the following weeks".
Android 5.0 Lollipop, which comes on Nexus 6, Nexus 9 and Nexus Player, will also be available on Nexus 4, 5, 7, 10 and Google Play edition devices in the coming weeks.
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Once it gets released (you can flash the GPE update by then) then it is time for motorola themselves to do the update to their own phones, which will be done fast and rolled out fast (if you bought retail) because of little to no bloat added. No need to talk about potential updates and take that update roadmap page with a pinch of salt because it's still Google you're talking about here.
They'll obviously do it for the 2014 G, which is essentially the same phone as the 2013 G, except the camera module/misc features. Both use the same SoC in a different chassis... They do the work for one, it's done for the other. Just sit back, relax, and flash GPE / wait for that system upgrade notification in a month or two. This is Google's Motorola, not Samsung...

juanchotazo99 said:
Promise? What promise? Remember Motorola is still part of Google, at least until sometime next year, probably early 2015.
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No need to talk about potential updates and take that update roadmap page with a pinch of salt because it's still Google you're talking about here.
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This is Google's Motorola, not Samsung...
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Galaxy Nexus. Kitkat. Google, not Samsung... :laugh:

MiyagiSan said:
Galaxy Nexus. Kitkat. Google, not Samsung... :laugh:
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Qualcomm Snapdragon 400, not TI OMAP 4460

The galaxy nexus was a special case because it used a TI OMAP SoC which became unsupported as TI decided to exit the chipset market (2012), AFAIK Kitkat introduced changes that required new drivers, and the cost/benefit of that was probably not feasible for google/samsung to bear. What would you do if your SoC provider just shuts down its operations?
All the other phones mentioned in their announcements use current chipsets and their companies are healthy and working, it's apples and oranges. So, just sit, relax, and wait for that upgrade notification.

tatazeuz said:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 400, not TI OMAP 4460
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The galaxy nexus was a special case because it used a TI OMAP SoC which became unsupported as TI decided to exit the chipset market (2012), AFAIK Kitkat introduced changes that required new drivers, and the cost/benefit of that was probably not feasible for google/samsung to bear. What would you do if your SoC provider just shuts down its operations?
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Galaxy Nexus runs KitKat today. If volunteers can do it...
juanchotazo99 said:
All the other phones mentioned in their announcements use current chipsets and their companies are healthy and working, it's apples and oranges. So, just sit, relax, and wait for that upgrade notification.
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As my original post mentions, I expect Android L will be released for the Moto G and the others. How long before CM12 surfaces is anyone's guess...

Sorry, I thought we were talking about why the Gnex didn't officially get kitkat, because there was an external reason to Google/Samsung for it not happening. Unofficially, yes, anything is possible. The same happened with the Galaxy S Advance, where the devs (Paul L, a few posts above, is one of them) made every kitkat variant you can come up with work on it, flawlessly. Damn fine job. Mind you, that phone had the same fate as the Gnex, its SoC company, ST Ericsson also shut down and exited the SoC market and leaving it unsupported.
I just hope Moto heard all the feedback and improves the camera in this update, apart from all the inherent camera pipeline enhancements we get from lollipop itself.

juanchotazo99 said:
Sorry, I thought we were talking about why the Gnex didn't officially get kitkat, because there was an external reason to Google/Samsung for it not happening. Unofficially, yes, anything is possible. The same happened with the Galaxy S Advance, where the devs (Paul L, a few posts above, is one of them) made every kitkat variant you can come up with work on it, flawlessly. Damn fine job. Mind you, that phone had the same fate as the Gnex, its SoC company, ST Ericsson also shut down and exited the SoC market and leaving it unsupported.
I just hope Moto heard all the feedback and improves the camera in this update, apart from all the inherent camera pipeline enhancements we get from lollipop itself.
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No need for a e-drama. Just wait until a downloadable link comes to our hands, otherwise just don't trust the OEM. Pretty simple.
So, for the source code, a month or two from now (the SDK will be released this week, but newer images are still marked as the preview versions); then about a week or two tops for CM 12 Alpha. From the OEM, maybe 3 or 4 weeks after release (for the GPE edition, the rest, about two months). Just my prediction, if Motorola/Google plays it cool, and we are lucky enough; we'll have a preview version, in about two or three weeks from now for the GPe editions.
All basing my statements on what Google and friends did when 4.4 was released; and the rest pure speculation.
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Android 6.0 Marshmallow - will we get it?

This is a somewhat silly question, I admit. It's reasonable to assume that Huawei will provide Android 6.0 to their older phones, considering they just made the new Nexus 6P.
Or will they? What do you think? Is the Nexus 6P comparable in terms of hardware to our Mate 7? How are chances that we'll actually get Marshmallow within a reasonable time frame?
Also, what do you think - will Marshmallow make it possible that we could get a CyanogenMod installation for the Mate 7 with support for the fingerprint sensor? Or another, similar, close-to-stock Android experience?
I, for one, would rather wait for Marshmallow and stick with KitKat for the time being, hoping that the new system will improve significantly on Lollipop - and also hoping that the Nexus 6P means adoption of Marshmallow to the Mate 7 and other Huawei phones will be much quicker (and easier).
What are your thoughts?

we are waiging a year for lollipop. i guess they'll release finally this goddamn lollipop just to get rid of haters on their fanpages and forget about mate 7.
if you are expecting 6.0 in reasonable time you are just dreamer.

vonotny said:
This is a somewhat silly question, I admit. It's reasonable to assume that Huawei will provide Android 6.0 to their older phones, considering they just made the new Nexus 6P.
Or will they? What do you think? Is the Nexus 6P comparable in terms of hardware to our Mate 7? How are chances that we'll actually get Marshmallow within a reasonable time frame?
Also, what do you think - will Marshmallow make it possible that we could get a CyanogenMod installation for the Mate 7 with support for the fingerprint sensor? Or another, similar, close-to-stock Android experience?
I, for one, would rather wait for Marshmallow and stick with KitKat for the time being, hoping that the new system will improve significantly on Lollipop - and also hoping that the Nexus 6P means adoption of Marshmallow to the Mate 7 and other Huawei phones will be much quicker (and easier).
What are your thoughts?
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The Nexus 6P will be updated by Google and not by Huawei to be clear and i`am afraid we`ll have to wait for the M update at least 6-9 months if they continue developing Lollipop. The Nexus has a different CPU and GPU then the Huawei`s/Honors so that won`t help either. I`ll be switching to the Moto X Style soon i`ll think because the Nexus`s are ridiculously expensive this year imo, at least in the EU :silly:

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It's reasonable to assume
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No, it isn't.
If Mate7 gets M, great! Just don't hold your breath... :fingers-crossed:

Update will be available around Januari-Februari 2016.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/list-andro...-get-android-6-0-marshmallow-os-update-643594
Perhaps it is better to miss Official Android 5.1 ......
https://www.androidpit.com/7-reasons-why-kitkat-is-better-than-lollipop

ronnie72 said:
Update will be available around Januari-Februari 2016.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/list-andro...-get-android-6-0-marshmallow-os-update-643594
Perhaps it is better to miss Official Android 5.1 ......
https://www.androidpit.com/7-reasons-why-kitkat-is-better-than-lollipop
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Hope this is legit but i have serious doubts

The AM7 hasn't even received an official Lollipop update, the mere thought of getting Marshmallow is a dream. Huawei has been promising it every month, and has failed every month. I absolutely love my AM7 physically, but the software is outdated. The fact that Google will be in charge of the 6P's software is the only reason I bought one. Huawei has physically built some amazing phones, but hardware needs to be complemented with software, and the fact that their 2014 flagship device has not received the 2014 update to 5.0 a year after its release leaves me saddened for Huawei customers that can't change phones, or are committed to their AM7's.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Many owners are content with 4.4.2 or the various CM based ROM's out there, but I believe it's reasonable to expect a vital software upgrade to a flagship device within 5-6 months of its release. We're nearing a year and still are going nuts over beta releases that are still buggy (I just reverted my AM7 back to 4.4.2 b125), and that to me is a deal breaker. But again - some people are content.
I'll say this though - CM12.2 or whatever it'll be called for Android M would go amazing with the AM7. With fingerprint reading natively built into 6.0, maybe we could see CM ROM's with a fingerprint scanner. My main gripe with the CM ROM's for the AM7 was lack of fingerprint reading (understandably, of course, given the nature of the way its built into Huawei's kernel). Oh well!

even honor 6 received lollipop today

Nexus P6 belongs to google .. the manufacturer does NOT do anything with software AT ALL .. nexus phones has pure android directly from google so that is why it has 6.0
6.0 Marshmallow on mate 7 ? next year christmas maybe ?
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Update will be available around Januari-Februari 2016.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/list-andro...-get-android-6-0-marshmallow-os-update-643594
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no date stated for mate 7

One year ago they promised Lollipop for January. So forget it.

ГАСООП said:
we are waiging a year for lollipop. i guess they'll release finally this goddamn lollipop just to get rid of haters on their fanpages and forget about mate 7.
if you are expecting 6.0 in reasonable time you are just dreamer.
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Possible

gee2012 said:
The Nexus 6P will be updated by Google and not by Huawei to be clear and i`am afraid we`ll have to wait for the M update at least 6-9 months if they continue developing Lollipop. The Nexus has a different CPU and GPU then the Huawei`s/Honors so that won`t help either. I`ll be switching to the Moto X Style soon i`ll think because the Nexus`s are ridiculously expensive this year imo, at least in the EU :silly:
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The different hardware is a convincing point - considering this is (from what I've read) also what's keeping back Lollipop for so long.
I've been eyeing the Moto X Style myself, as well as the Nexus 6P (which I find far too expensive) and the OnePlus 2. I would miss the fingerprint sensor on the Moto, though ...

AhsanU said:
The AM7 hasn't even received an official Lollipop update, the mere thought of getting Marshmallow is a dream. Huawei has been promising it every month, and has failed every month. I absolutely love my AM7 physically, but the software is outdated. The fact that Google will be in charge of the 6P's software is the only reason I bought one. Huawei has physically built some amazing phones, but hardware needs to be complemented with software, and the fact that their 2014 flagship device has not received the 2014 update to 5.0 a year after its release leaves me saddened for Huawei customers that can't change phones, or are committed to their AM7's.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Many owners are content with 4.4.2 or the various CM based ROM's out there, but I believe it's reasonable to expect a vital software upgrade to a flagship device within 5-6 months of its release. We're nearing a year and still are going nuts over beta releases that are still buggy (I just reverted my AM7 back to 4.4.2 b125), and that to me is a deal breaker. But again - some people are content.
I'll say this though - CM12.2 or whatever it'll be called for Android M would go amazing with the AM7. With fingerprint reading natively built into 6.0, maybe we could see CM ROM's with a fingerprint scanner. My main gripe with the CM ROM's for the AM7 was lack of fingerprint reading (understandably, of course, given the nature of the way its built into Huawei's kernel). Oh well!
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That's what I'm hoping - that a CM-based Marshmallow ROM with fingerprint support will come to our phones. In fact, I can't stand EMUI and would prefer vanilla or close to vanilla Android - if only it were currently possible. Since the OnePlus 2 is impossible to get (at least at its official retail price) and the Nexus 6P is so damn expensive (almost iPhone money ...), I'm going to stick with my Mate for the time being ...

No.
Don't expect Marshmallow for mate 7.
Just don't.

Did you this leak?? It's a picture where there are the first devices that will get marshmallow(6.0), probably at the end of this year(i dont believe that part haha)
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armude said:
Did you this leak?? It's a picture where there are the first devices that will get marshmallow(6.0), probably at the end of this year(i dont believe that part haha)
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Yeah, but is that official information or is it wishful thinking? My bet is on the latter.

vonotny said:
Yeah, but is that official information or is it wishful thinking? My bet is on the latter.
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I cant tell, i only know that is a leak, but there are several news telling that huawei will update mate 7, mate S, honor 6, p8, and more, to android M, lets give them a try

I would say that the lollipop upgrade has been dumped away - and we will go directly to Android M6. Last known AL5 beta was B317 for the LT-09 - the betas came out every few weeks, now it's silent since the B317 wich was close to done - was in matter of days for the official release.
Also some sites report that Huawei said about AM6 update is coming much much sooner...and some of them even say Q4 2015
http://pantomath.xyz/emui-4-0-based-on-android-marshmallow-to-be-released-in-q4-2015-by-huawei/
Edit: NEVERMIND i just found out it was Huawei Christmas XD

Lg is bringing to g4 marshmallow next week already...that's pretty fast

I saw huawei 3 popular device will get Andriod M at first...and 6p already release...I found one of huawei developer said thes 3 brands, P8,Mate 7 and Honor 6plus...they will possibly release in end of 2015..its mean u can guess for half of 2016 hehe bcoz huawei always late...
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[WIP]LineageOS 14.1 News (We Need Your Help)

Yes Lineage Os 14.1 Sort of works on our lonely LG V10 device.
What i know so far is
NOT WORKING
Audio
Camera - Needs Camera Blob Bring Up.
Some of the Lg G4 blobs work and some dont. So thats why we need our proper camera blob bring up.
We need our help. We need to colaborate like old times android comunity is separating slowly over the years.
If we are alone and some knows 1 or 2 things about android we need to regroup and work as a team. Or we never going to have something working.
On the picks says on device that is a LGH811 (LG G4) but is not.
It says that cus the deve used lg g4 repo.
He owns the lg v10 a d lg g4 but he studies and he is trying his best.
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We can contact the LG v20 developers of the nougat roms. They fixed the camera using the lg g5 tree as a base I suppose

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We can contact the LG v20 developers of the nougat roms. They fixed the camera using the lg g5 tree as a base I suppose
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If this true then or fix is close then.
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I would like to help also but I haven't touched Android development in a while. I will get my Linux system ready for some testing with the g5 tree

Thank you i have a pc that is capable of build android it was setup for android 5.1.1 i ned a ram upgrade... Im just wating for amazon for the rams to arrive
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How is the development going?
I don't know if it helps but since the G4 is very similar to the V10, i'd assume this would help you guys.
https://download.lineageos.org/h811
LineageOS has nightlys for the G4, and maybe it can help you guys.

Any News? this is a really good os. I really don't know anything about software development.

I don't know it's this help, but i think Lineage Team was working for a Nightly ! https://www.lineageoslog.com/14.1/h901

It's sad, apparently we will not have this incredible rom. Nobody is in position to demand but cool series that the dev say if it is working on it or not, so one is not excited :/

woah nice Job dude

I was looking for buy the LG V10, it would be awesome getting Lineageos for this beast

I just had my V20 SMASHED in anger by a very lovely beautiful lady 5 nights ago. today I received my v10 (what I can afford) replacement. I guess I was foolish enough to assume that 7.0 would be available on this device. I am not a developer, however, I am able to test anything you need me to. I agree that the community has fragmented over recent years and I have stayed away because of the poop throwing and phone /engineering skills shaming I see here anymore. I am so so so sad about losing my beloved V20 but more so now that I learn that I should've researched this more upfront. My nexus 5 and 6 my 6p and even my one plus one ALL HAVE MULTIPLE 7.** ROMS I thought a 16 month old LG BAD-BOY would be in same boat but it looks more like paddling shut creek.....help?

Any news?

I can help build the ROMS. 8 core with 16gbs of RAM if that's enough.

pfff i think the devs just forget this project

any news?

I think this never will be released, the devs forget This CellPhone..... The LG V10 it's Dead....

Well nougat is available and the source for it as well, I for one do not have the know how to develop a Rom but the stuff we need is there in a kdz.

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Well nougat is available and the source for it as well, I for one do not have the know how to develop a Rom but the stuff we need is there in a kdz.
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Exactly... T-Mobile just released the Nougat update today, or I just read about it. Waiting for Verizon..... could die if I hold my breath...
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I just had my V20 SMASHED in anger by a very lovely beautiful lady 5 nights ago. today I received my v10 (what I can afford) replacement. I guess I was foolish enough to assume that 7.0 would be available on this device. I am not a developer, however, I am able to test anything you need me to. I agree that the community has fragmented over recent years and I have stayed away because of the poop throwing and phone /engineering skills shaming I see here anymore. I am so so so sad about losing my beloved V20 but more so now that I learn that I should've researched this more upfront. My nexus 5 and 6 my 6p and even my one plus one ALL HAVE MULTIPLE 7.** ROMS I thought a 16 month old LG BAD-BOY would be in same boat but it looks more like paddling shut creek.....help?
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I'd have that biotch arrested, a new phone or both, don't care how good the a*s is...

Looks like we lost whoever was working on lineage for our device.
I was previously seeing updates almost daily here: https://www.lineageoslog.com/14.1/h901
Seems like they've removed our device completely. *Sigh*

EMUI 10 for our beloved M5 might be coming soon?

According to this support message from July 31, 2020, the rep said they are continually optimizing the experience of EMUI 10.0 and asked to wait patiently.
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What do you folks think, there is hope?

I'm still on 8.0 since I have a US version. If any M5 is updated to 10, I will be shocked.
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I'm still on 8.0 since I have a US version. If any M5 is updated to 10, I will be shocked.
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Wow, this is awful. Mine is from the UK and I'm on 9.1.0.335
I thought the US owners were able to update already. Did you try the "Unable to receive official system updates" guide on Huawei's website or running the HiSense update software on PC?
It really disappoints me that we're even having this conversation regarding a two-year-old device. I will probably never buy another Huawey product again if that's the case. I'd expect to see at least EMUI 10 and Android 10 for the M5.

pyramid_head said:
Wow, this is awful. Mine is from the UK and I'm on 9.1.0.335
I thought the US owners were able to update already. Did you try the "Unable to receive official system updates" guide on Huawei's website or running the HiSense update software on PC?
It really disappoints me that we're even having this conversation regarding a two-year-old device. I will probably never buy another Huawey product again if that's the case. I'd expect to see at least EMUI 10 and Android 10 for the M5.
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It's now dropped off the support list completely - so don't expect any more updates. Still, at least in the UK/EU it's had more support than most Android providing manufacturers.
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/bulletin/
Now what other reasonably priced, higher spec android tablets are there out there?

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.... Still, at least in the UK/EU it's had more support than most Android providing manufacturers.
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well, one major release and two years of security patches is not so much, I was expecting a bit more from Huawei. At least they could open the device completely so that one can flash all partitions and not only system, boot and recovery.
Probably I should at least have a look at some actual GSI ...

AndDiSa said:
well, one major release and two years of security patches is not so much, I was expecting a bit more from Huawei. At least they could open the device completely so that one can flash all partitions and not only system, boot and recovery.
Probably I should at least have a look at some actual GSI ...
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It's also not what Huawei promised - in theory, it was one major OS update, 2 years feature updates, and 3 years security patches. However, given the Huawei/China vs Trump thing I can understand that going out the window.
However, as I keep asking, who else does supported, decent Android tablets at a reasonable price? I paid £220 for my 8.4" M5 2 and a bit years ago, and there isn't anything obvious at that type of price now.

lybad said:
It's also not what Huawei promised - in theory, it was one major OS update, 2 years feature updates, and 3 years security patches. However, given the Huawei/China vs Trump thing I can understand that going out the window.
However, as I keep asking, who else does supported, decent Android tablets at a reasonable price? I paid £220 for my 8.4" M5 2 and a bit years ago, and there isn't anything obvious at that type of price now.
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Exactly. The Samsung tablets with fingerprint reader cost more than £600 and now I am so used to using the fingerprint instead of typing passwords all the time that I don't want a tablet without a reader.
One of the many reasons to hate Trump is that the best provider of Android hardware of the last three or four years has now disappeared from the market.

anonimo said:
Exactly. The Samsung tablets with fingerprint reader cost more than £600 and now I am so used to using the fingerprint instead of typing passwords all the time that I don't want a tablet without a reader.
One of the many reasons to hate Trump is that the best provider of Android hardware of the last three or four years has now disappeared from the market.
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I wouldn't say they've disappeared - but they are now using an AOSP build and have no access to Google Services out of the box. Which in turn reduces the practicality for many people, depending on the apps available in the App Gallery.

I don't belive in this. I've got the Media Pad M5 Pro (C431)
Stil (SEPTEMBER 20!!!) on Android 8.0.0 with July patch 2019
Support says - No update available for my device (Tried 5 different supporters)
I'm really angry coz it's the PRO Model.

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I don't belive in this. I've got the Media Pad M5 Pro (C431)
Stil (SEPTEMBER 20!!!) on Android 8.0.0 with July patch 2019
Support says - No update available for my device (Tried 5 different supporters)
I'm really angry coz it's the PRO Model.
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Your device is CMR-AL19 or CMR-W19? For the LTE version there should be available 9.1.0.351 or 9.1.0.352 ... for the WiFi version I didn't find any update.