EMUI 5 ram management problem - Honor 8 Questions & Answers

I need SIP client to be always accessible, but SIP app stops registering after an hour or so (this is the app I use - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.nn.helios_mobile&hl=en).
On other family members phones (sony z3c, iphone) this app works without any problems, but my honor 8 seems to always kill this app (or somehow stop it from registering to sip server).
Is it just this app or is it honor 8 memory management problem? On EMUI 4.1 there was a function to add apps to protected apps list, but it's not available anymore.

Go to your App infos then click on Battery, you can then choose whether to keep this app running after the screen is locked or not.

takichiman said:
Go to your App infos then click on Battery, you can then choose whether to keep this app running after the screen is locked or not.
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"Close after screen locked" option for this app is OFF.
Or is there any other option I don't know about?

k13tas said:
"Close after screen locked" option for this app is OFF.
Or is there any other option I don't know about?
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Hmm.. There is another option that automatically close excessively power-intensive apps. Check if that's off too.
(I can't remember where to find it on Nougat, I'm on MM now)

takichiman said:
Hmm.. There is another option that automatically close excessively power-intensive apps. Check if that's off too.
(I can't remember where to find it on Nougat, I'm on MM now)
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This option is also OFF...

k13tas said:
This option is also OFF...
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That's weird,
suppose this problem comes from RAM management, you can choose to prevent an app from being purged by clicking on a lock from the task management screen (it's right next to the X that closes an app).

takichiman said:
That's weird,
suppose this problem comes from RAM management, you can choose to prevent an app from being purged by clicking on a lock from the task management screen (it's right next to the X that closes an app).
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I'll try that, thank you

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GALAXY S6 SM-G920F Problems

I just bought the mentioned phone and I'm experiencing some weird problems on it. For example, I disabled most of the google apps by going to the App menu > Edit and disabled them by pressing the "minus" on the icon. Now if I want to re-enable them in Settings > Applications by going to the Disabled Apps section, pressing Enable and it gives me the option to DISABLE it again? WTF? Seems like I can't enable any app I disabled now..
The second thing is, it's more of a question really.. If I long press the home button, it only makes a short vibration and does nothing at all, is that normal or should something pop-up?
I mean really!? Ok, when you've pressed the enable toogle and the toggle becomes "disable" it means the app is already enabled and it gives you the option to disable it again.
Long press of the home button brings you to google now app, you must have disabled it.
marsen2567 said:
I mean really!? Ok, when you've pressed the enable toogle and the toggle becomes "disable" it means the app is already enabled and it gives you the option to disable it again.
Long press of the home button brings you to google now app, you must have disabled it.
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I don't understand the bold text I quoted from you.. What do you mean? I clearly stated that I've disabled an app, and if I press to enable it, it offers me to disable it.. which is, already disabled?!?!?
Sorry for the misunderstanding but I don't get it how could I disable a already disabled app?!?
MirkoKrizan said:
I don't understand the bold text I quoted from you.. What do you mean? I clearly stated that I've disabled an app, and if I press to enable it, it offers me to disable it.. which is, already disabled?!?!?
Sorry for the misunderstanding but I don't get it how could I disable a already disabled app?!?
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I mean when the button has the word "disable" on it. It means it's already running and app is ready for use.. Vice versa, if it has the word "enable" on the button.
marsen2567 said:
I mean when the button has the word "disable" on it. It means it's already running and app is ready for use.. Vice versa, if it has the word "enable" on the button.
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???
I have DISABLED an app, therefore the app is DISABLED. If I want to enable it, the button there clearly says "Enable" but when I try to do that, I get a pop up as I was trying to disable it, which it already is.. Why don't you get it? xD
MirkoKrizan said:
???
I have DISABLED an app, therefore the app is DISABLED. If I want to enable it, the button there clearly says "Enable" but when I try to do that, I get a pop up as I was trying to disable it, which it already is.. Why don't you get it? xD
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Ohh I get it now, if you've disabled it and the app is already updated, and you're trying to enable it again. Just click the pop up to disable it again, it just wants you to uninstall the updates and it reverts back to the apps factory version, and press the enable toggle again, the app will be enabled. You just have to reupdate the app again. In the touchwiz home you can directly disable an app but in the applications manager when you try to disable apps you have to uninstall the updates. Since disabling through the home launcher is just a shortcut.
Just touchwiz things.
marsen2567 said:
Ohh I get it now, if you've disabled it and the app is already updated, and you're trying to enable it again. Just click the pop up to disable it again, it just wants you to uninstall the updates and it reverts back to the apps factory version, and press the enable toggle again, the app will be enabled. You just have to reupdate the app again. In the touchwiz home you can directly disable an app but in the applications manager when you try to disable apps you have to uninstall the updates. Since disabling through the home launcher is just a shortcut.
Just touchwiz things.
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Wow.. never knew that.. Is that normal? Happens to everyone or is it just me?
MirkoKrizan said:
Wow.. never knew that.. Is that normal? Happens to everyone or is it just me?
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It's normal, if you're not rooted. It's not really a bug, it's just a feature of touchwiz. My stock S5 and S4 has this, too.
marsen2567 said:
It's normal, if you're not rooted. It's not really a bug, it's just a feature of touchwiz. My stock S5 and S4 has this, too.
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Oh okay then.. I thought I got some faulty phone Any news on when is the ram management fix coming? Seems like my ram is staying at 80-90% at all times.. even when I'm not running any apps..
Also, do you recommend disabling the apps you don't use? For example I have disabled most of the google apps on there, since I'm not prone to use them..

Serious FLAW w/ Huawei Phone Manager - "Recent Apps" & 3rd party App Startup - HELP!

Serious FLAW w/ Huawei Phone Manager - "Recent Apps" & 3rd party App Startup - HELP!
Hi,
I am having a 2 MAJOR deal-breaker issues with my GEM-703L B112 EMUI 3.1:
* Startup Apps (including Alarm Clocks, Hangouts, 3rd party Email client) don't start after a reboot resulting in missing notifications
* Protected Apps (including Alarm Clocks, Hangouts, 3rd party Email client) get killed/closed when "flicking up" to clear all apps using Recent Apps button resulting in missing notifications
The culprit of this issue seems to be Huawei's Phone Manager. All apps mentioned above are set as Protected Apps, Trusted permissions, allowed all notifications, and background data is enabled.
If anyone has a solution for this issue, *PLEASE* help! I really love the phone but must have this resolved since these are VITAL, especially for my alarm clock - not waking up for work is not an option!
I will be rooting once I get the bootloader unlocked via unlock code from Huawei at which time this issue can be fixed by making these important apps as system apps (thanks to ajsmsg78 for the suggestion as well), but until that time and for many of those who are and won't be rooted, a solution is clearly very badly needed.
Lastly, I believe this issue also exists for other Huawei phones having EMUI such as the P8, etc.
Switch off Power Genie app and set energy saving to least agressive level.
trurl3 said:
Switch off Power Genie app and set energy saving to least agressive level.
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Thanks for your reply trurl3, my energy saving level is set to "Performance" which is the least aggressive level, but I cannot find this "Power Genie" app. Where would this be found through?
E--Man said:
Thanks for your reply trurl3, my energy saving level is set to "Performance" which is the least aggressive level, but I cannot find this "Power Genie" app. Where would this be found through?
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Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
hagba said:
Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
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Thanks hagba.
UPDATE: strangely enough, my startup apps have now slowly started to start up after reboot but not right away. As I do not yet have root on this device, I simply cannot explain why in the world this positive change had happened. I am almost afraid to reboot again because I will be frustrated if/when they do not start up.
The app that I really need to start up is called Alarm Clock Xtreme which is my goto Alarm app for years now. At first it was not showing the permanent notification in the notifications and the Alar, would not go off. Now after a few minutes after reboot it is showing up. Not sure what is going on here code-wise.
Anyone have any input here or a solution for the Recent Apps button killing Protected Apps?
hagba said:
Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
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Was a problem on the X1 I had as well. Things like google hangouts would get closed and you'd never get notifications, even if it was set as a protected app. From what I can tell only the Huawei apps are truly protected...
You have to root and get a rom with the phone manager removed.
And even then, some things still get closed once in a while, which is odd. There's is plenty of free memory, so not sure why the Huawei phones mess up the memory management so much.
This Huawei memory management issue is really the only bad thing about this phone... Android has a great memory manager built in, don't mess with it
Otherwise, its perfect for me...
hagba said:
Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
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Hagba not sure if u saw my message above.
omniphil said:
Was a problem on the X1 I had as well. Things like google hangouts would get closed and you'd never get notifications, even if it was set as a protected app. From what I can tell only the Huawei apps are truly protected...
You have to root and get a rom with the phone manager removed.
And even then, some things still get closed once in a while, which is odd. There's is plenty of free memory, so not sure why the Huawei phones mess up the memory management so much.
This Huawei memory management issue is really the only bad thing about this phone... Android has a great memory manager built in, don't mess with it
Otherwise, its perfect for me...
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Thanks omniphil, I'm wondering if this particular issue could be worked around since startup apps are working but only after a delay (see "UPDATE" above) by having a third party app monitor if a process is killed or having a Tasker profile to relaunch it right away, but then we are back in the same paradox where that third party app or Tasker profile would also be killed when "flicking up" to kill all apps.
@ajsmsg78 , @elio321 , @mcdhol_24 , @hagba , @Djiban:
Perhaps there is a certain third party app or Tasker profile can designate itself with "priority" mode of some sort and can bind itself to notifications or accessibility so that it would be relaunched? Please note I am just brainstorming here! Input would be gladly appreciated...
E--Man said:
Hagba not sure if u saw my message above.
Thanks omniphil, I'm wondering if this particular issue could be worked around since startup apps are working but only after a delay (see "UPDATE" above) by having a third party app monitor if a process is killed or having a Tasker profile to relaunch it right away, but then we are back in the same paradox where that third party app or Tasker profile would also be killed when "flicking up" to kill all apps.
@ajsmsg78 , @elio321 , @mcdhol_24 , @hagba , @Djiban:
Perhaps there is a certain third party app or Tasker profile can designate itself with "priority" mode of some sort and can bind itself to notifications or accessibility so that it would be relaunched? Please note I am just brainstorming here! Input would be gladly appreciated...
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Hi All and @ajsmsg78, @elio321, @mcdhol_24, @hagba, @Djiban, @omniphil,
I have noticed that unlike my other Protected apps, my SwiftKey keyboard app does not get killed when flicking up to close all apps using the Recent Apps button. I understand that this is obviously because the selected keyboard is required to stay in memory, but can't this or similar exception be leveraged to keep a Tasker profile in memory to relaunch critical apps?
Surely I am not the only unrooted user with this issue!
Thanks again.
I think the big question is, why are you swiping up to kill all apps? They aren't running in the background anyways, they are just place holders. There isn't really any need to kill all the background apps in android anymore, it uses more battery life. Just leave them all there and let android do what it was designed to do
omniphil said:
I think the big question is, why are you swiping up to kill all apps? They aren't running in the background anyways, they are just place holders. There isn't really any need to kill all the background apps in android anymore, it uses more battery life. Just leave them all there and let android do what it was designed to do
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Hi omniphil, I see what you are saying but killing unused apps does improve the device speed and save on battery usage including background data consumption. I understand that memory is automatically managed by killing apps when more memory is required but the above is not considered in this - just memory.
I fixed this issue by freezing the phone manager through titanium backup. I was also breaking my head over keeping the apps running in the background even if they were killed in the multitasker area. You do need to be rooted to use titanium backup. Hope this helps, it sure fixed the issue for me.
want an app to not be closed by swiping up? on the app itself, on the recents screen, swipe it down. now there's an icon showing on it, right? that means it won't be closed when you do the swipe up to close all apps.
Dead_Dude said:
want an app to not be closed by swiping up? on the app itself, on the recents screen, swipe it down. now there's an icon showing on it, right? that means it won't be closed when you do the swipe up to close all apps.
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Hi this is true but only valid until next reboot.
can you disable phone manager with debloater software on Windows

Honor 6x stock killing apps that it shouldn't

I have a call recorder app and that thing keeps getting terminated even though it's in the protected app list.
Any solution?
Thanks!
It could be that the call recorder app you installed is not support for use with either the current version of android installed on your device, or it's just not compatible with your device entirely.
DarkGuyver said:
It could be that the call recorder app you installed is not support for use with either the current version of android installed on your device, or it's just not compatible with your device entirely.
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It's this one never had a problem with it with my s7. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skvalex.callrecorder
I disabled battery optimization for this app , i'll see if it helps.
lowspeed said:
It's this one never had a problem with it with my s7. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skvalex.callrecorder
I disabled battery optimization for this app , i'll see if it helps.
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Try using another call recorder. The current call recorder you are using probably isn't compatible with the Honor 6X.
DarkGuyver said:
Try using another call recorder. The current call recorder you are using probably isn't compatible with the Honor 6X.
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Actually, i fixed it. The main culprit was the battery optimization
lowspeed said:
Actually, i fixed it. The main culprit was the battery optimization
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Glad you solved your problem. But I wonder why would the battery optimization software cause problems with the call recorder app that you are using....
guest user doubt
In Honor 6x is guest mode available or not???? and by using only pin can we split two user accounts i.e(user and guest) or else can we use also fingerprint for two users...please reply me back
DarkGuyver said:
Glad you solved your problem. But I wonder why would the battery optimization software cause problems with the call recorder app that you are using....
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Because it causes the services to be terminated
lowspeed said:
Because it causes the services to be terminated
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Interesting....
lowspeed said:
I have a call recorder app and that thing keeps getting terminated even though it's in the protected app list.
Any solution?
Thanks!
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Glad you solved, but you can also lock it in recents to disable from getting stopped.
Try using another call recorder
I know this is an old thread but I'm having the same issue. Even if I lock a program in recent apps, it will still close at some point. I have to reopen my podcast app and pdf reader on a daily basis (sometimes multiple times) And I have battery optimization off.
terryowen said:
I know this is an old thread but I'm having the same issue. Even if I lock a program in recent apps, it will still close at some point. I have to reopen my podcast app and pdf reader on a daily basis (sometimes multiple times) And I have battery optimization off.
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Go to settings -> Battery -> Close apps after screen lock and untick the apps you dont want the OS to close. I have seen apps running in the background for days, sometimes I even forget that the app was in background until I open it for something.
Yes, I've already done this too. (Sorry for not mentioning it.) It's weird though, it seems like it only keeps the last 3 or 4 recent apps max after a certain period of time. I like this phone but this is one is starting to bug me a lot.
Anyway, Pocket Casts, ezPDF Reader, TuneIn Radio Pro and Music Folder Player all are identified as power intensive and get killed, even if locked and unselected from lock screen close or the power intensive apps screen. I have all power saving options turned off as I rarely get below 70%.
Note: I've been poking around some more and ended up in app settings and in the Advanced/Special Access, it looks there is a "Exempt from battery optimization" section. I'm going to put my reader and music apps in and see what happens.

Honor 6X automatically killing background services [Rooted]

Hey Guys,
I bought a brand new Honor 6x yesterday and rooted it ( I followed a thread from XDA). Unlocked bootloader, flashed twrp and then installed SuperSU. I want this device to use one and only one app which I have developed. Problem is that, after starting the app, one background service is started, but the Honor 6X is killing them randomly. Very frequent. Even the onDestroy method is not getting called in that scenario.
I know that when we remove the app from task manager, the services gets killed in the Honor 6X, but in my case, I just minimise the app and then also the services gets killed.
Is this something related to rooting? I tried rooting Nexus 5 and in that also, the services gets killed.
Any help will be helpful.
Try to whitelist the apps that you wouldn't want to be closed automatically by this voice in the battery menu
RedSkull23 said:
Try to whitelist the apps that you wouldn't want to be closed automatically by this voice in the battery menu
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Can you tell me the name of the app? Couldn't find any app as "Batteria" with given screenshot.
driftking9987 said:
Can you tell me the name of the app? Couldn't find any app as "Batteria" with given screenshot.
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It's not an app man it's EMUI settings menu, battery sub menu. "Batteria" stands for Battery in english. Just browse to settings -> battery and you'll find the same section of my screenshot.
RedSkull23 said:
It's not an app man it's EMUI settings menu, battery sub menu. "Batteria" stands for Battery in english. Just browse to settings -> battery and you'll find the same section of my screenshot.
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Thanks, got it. Will try and update if it works.
driftking9987 said:
Thanks, got it. Will try and update if it works.
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Ok let me know if you can solve that.
you can add the app in ignore optimization list also.
Hey. Actually I'm having the same problem.My phone is not rooted.. It kills the music streaming app i use 3 4 seconds after locking the device.. I have c
Kept that app in whitelist too..
Ssudeep123 said:
Hey. Actually I'm having the same problem.My phone is not rooted.. It kills the music streaming app i use 3 4 seconds after locking the device.. I have c
Kept that app in whitelist too..
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Gaana app, music app all works fine. not sure what is causing this though for you
shashank1320 said:
Gaana app, music app all works fine. not sure what is causing this though for you
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I use Wynk and it get kills...I've to set screen time to 10 minutes so that I can listen through Wynk
Ssudeep123 said:
I use Wynk and it get kills...I've to set screen time to 10 minutes so that I can listen through Wynk
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One more user reported this few days back. Not sure what was provided for a fix.
shashank1320 said:
One more user reported this few days back. Not sure what was provided for a fix.
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Ok No problem btw Thanks. I will try to ask wynk about it
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Ok let me know if you can solve that.
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No. Sadly it didn't work out as expected. After adding app in that list, now the services are not getting killed but at the same time, the services are not getting called correctly.
Like, I call a particular service every 1 minute, when the screen is turned on, it works perfectly. But as soon as the screen gets off/ or the app is minimized, the service starts randomly. Like sometime it will get fired after 2 min, sometime 4 min and rarely at a mentioned frequency i.e 1 min.
Any idea why this is happening. The frequency in which the service is called is very important for my application.
Thanks.
driftking9987 said:
Any idea why this is happening. The frequency in which the service is called is very important for my application.
Thanks.
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Go to settings>battery, go to settings icon on top right, make sure everything off in there. I only turn on keep mobile data on during sleep (keep whatsapp always online).
Then go to settings>memory & storage>storage cleaner, go to settings icon on top right and turn off auto clean.
Lastly go to settings>apps, choose the apps that u want always active, go to battery, make sure system wake up on, after that go to write system settting, make it yes.
Remember to restart phone after settings applied.
See if it works.
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Alarm App Killed

How do we prevent Samsung from killing alarm clock apps? Mine didn't go off today. I had specifically whitelisted it so that it couldn't be put to sleep. What else should I do? Any ideas? It's really frustrating... Samsung is so aggressive with that sometimes.
PsiPhiDan said:
How do we prevent Samsung from killing alarm clock apps? Mine didn't go off today. I had specifically whitelisted it so that it couldn't be put to sleep. What else should I do? Any ideas? It's really frustrating... Samsung is so aggressive with that sometimes.
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Uncheck Put unused apps to sleep under Device Care -> Battery -> App power management
ram4ufriends said:
Uncheck Put unused apps to sleep under Device Care -> Battery -> App power management
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I'll try that. I also FINALLY found a way to choose specific apps to NOT "optimize". It used to be way easier to find. I can't even remember how I found it now, haha. It was buried somewhere.
PsiPhiDan said:
I'll try that. I also FINALLY found a way to choose specific apps to NOT "optimize". It used to be way easier to find. I can't even remember how I found it now, haha. It was buried somewhere.
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Not optimizing a app still doesn't stop it from being killed..You have select Not sleeping apps or select option to not sleep apps after 3 days of non use
ram4ufriends said:
Not optimizing a app still doesn't stop it from being killed..You have select Not sleeping apps or select option to not sleep apps after 3 days of non use
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Really? Once I chose to not optimize it, it removed it from the list of apps that I had manually chosen to "never sleep" so I figured it just excluded that possibility entirely. That's... Weird!

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