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Hello,
I am using Nexus 5 on stock Android 6.0 Marshmallow (MRA58N).
I read that Xposed framework is finally working on 6.0 (as well as GravityBox).
So I decided to give a try, but I realized that I need to root my device first. Then I started reading about custom kernels. Then I started looking through all the great custom ROMs that are availble at XDA....
Which option is the best for now for Nexus 5? Are those custom ROMs really that good compared to stock 6.0?
So I can't make my mind, what should I do?
1. Stay on stock (bo-o-o-o-o-oring)
2. Root and install Xposed
3. Get a custom ROM
What I want - more customization, 100% stability, good performance, good battery.
Can you guys give me some advice?
P.S.: I have a lot of experience with custom ROMs, I installed a lot of that on my HTC Desire and even installed Android on my HTC Touch Cruise (that came with Windows Mobile). On my Nexus 5 I tried MIUI and I loved it, but every time I still comeback to the stock Android.
1 or 2 or a few layers roms like Chroma I guess (I didn't tried). CM based roms aren't stable enough for now.
Xposed and Gravitybox are at early stage so if you need 100% stability, stay on full stock.
Primokorn said:
1 or 2 or a few layers roms like Chroma I guess (I didn't tried). CM based roms aren't stable enough for now.
Xposed and Gravitybox are at early stage so if you need 100% stability, stay on full stock.
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thanks for a quick reply!
what about battery life on custom roms or kernels? can you actually feel the difference?
BazingaOG said:
thanks for a quick reply!
what about battery life on custom roms or kernels? can you actually feel the difference?
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Nope but you can feel it by using custom apps like Amplify.
Custom roms and kernels don't really help for battery life. FYI http://elementalx.org/the-truth-about-kernels-and-battery-life/
Hi everyone. So far i've been using Skyhigh 3.5 because this one was the most balanced one in terms of functionality, battery life, and others. It's been the only custom rom i ever tried on this rom.
But now it's laggiest than ever and i'm tired, and i don't rely on any valid warranty period. So, i'm ready to try it, as i heard that marshmallow roms are performing good and smooth. Really good news!!
Questions:
1- If i have the lastest TWRP 2.8.7.1 (the one i have), can i just install it over the skyhigh just like that? Of course, with mobile odin.
2- Will i see many difference in battery performance? I know that every full custom rom has worst battery life than, for example, a skyhigh.
3- If after a while, i prefer to go back to the skyhigh, can i just install it over the marshmallow? I ask this to avoid conflict with different bootloaders or different issues that i could find.
Thank you very much everyone!!!
Hi all,
I know this question was asked a lot of times but I was away from this community for a lot of time so I need some info.
I'm using Back-to-Note v13.1 and Arter kernel last version.
I'd like to update my device but I'm not sure what rom+kernel combo to flash.
I need stability and a really good battery life, extreme performance is not my main goal since normal one is enough.
Thanks a lot!
Stock ROM.... when do you people finally understand. If you need root, just change the kernel and stay on stock ROM. The stock ROM is the fastest and smoothest with highest battery life.
I can understand and accept your point of view but a well developed Custom ROM is way better than Stock ROM.
Right now, the only stock one I'm interested to is the official MM release!
Hello everyone, greetings!
My question is are stock ROMs faster in loading and launching apps than custom ROMs
I'm asking this because I'm currently on RR 5.8.2 and I'm starting to feel that Stock 6.0.1 feels faster(sometimes).
What are your thoughts on this?
Yours Respectfully,
-Mackx
MackxtheAndroidGeek said:
Hello everyone, greetings!
My question is are stock ROMs faster in loading and launching apps than custom ROMs
I'm asking this because I'm currently on RR 5.8.2 and I'm starting to feel that Stock 6.0.1 feels faster(sometimes).
What are your thoughts on this?
Yours Respectfully,
-Mackx
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Hello,
You could give a try to LineageOS 14.1 ROM.
I find it better than the Stock 6.0.1.
MackxtheAndroidGeek said:
Hello everyone, greetings!
My question is are stock ROMs faster in loading and launching apps than custom ROMs
I'm asking this because I'm currently on RR 5.8.2 and I'm starting to feel that Stock 6.0.1 feels faster(sometimes).
What are your thoughts on this?
Yours Respectfully,
-Mackx
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In many cases, yes... the stock ROM is faster, more efficient, and more battery friendly. Moto might do a lot of things wrong, but they know how to optimize a ROM and kernel.
Yes, is better.
Is lineage os something better?
Stock ROM 6.0.1 is only faster if you are using another customer Marshmellow ROM. However Custom Nougat ROMs are alot faster than stock Marshmellow ROM. This is for simple reason that Nougat is better than Marshmellow. I have tried most of them and also I went back to stock for few weeks and I was feeling Stock ROM is working in slow motion as compare to Nougat ROMs . However battery consumtion and optimisation is far better on stock ROM as compare to any other custom ROM.
Lineage is simply nougat and stock is simply MM. speed-wise I would have to run a lot of tests to find out which is faster. I run Lineage because it works (for me) and it gets the security updates, which MM does not. Have no idea about RR.
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Stock ROM 6.0.1 is only faster if you are using another customer Marshmellow ROM. However Custom Nougat ROMs are alot faster than stock Marshmellow ROM. This is for simple reason that Nougat is better than Marshmellow. I have tried most of them and also I went back to stock for few weeks and I was feeling Stock ROM is working in slow motion as compare to Nougat ROMs . However battery consumtion and optimisation is far better on stock ROM as compare to any other custom ROM.
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So you mean to say battery drains faster on custom Roms?
libert19 said:
So you mean to say battery drains faster on custom Roms?
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I think people play a lot more with their new toy (custom rom) so the display is on a lot more and this will kill any battery. It's not the rom, but the user.
libert19 said:
So you mean to say battery drains faster on custom Roms?
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Yes... That is correct
acejavelin said:
Yes... That is correct
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Given the same type of use I find that Lineage is ever so slightly better on battery than stock 6.0, but I would expect that as N is supposed to be ever so slightly better than M.
Example - daily use, I used to run stock 6.0 M down to 85 regularly and N is generally 90 or 88%. XT1540/US/ATT/GoPhone. There are days where I only run LinOS down to 97%.
current lineage-14.1-20170323-nightly-osprey-signed.zip with nano arm 7.1 gapps
libert19 said:
So you mean to say battery drains faster on custom Roms?
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Yes it does alot fatser on custom ROMS. I have tried most of the ROMS in this forum . Battery is best in Stock Marshmellow ROM. The only ROM which is closest to stock is nearly pure Nougat ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/development/osprey-aosp-caf-7-1-1-t3576936
Try this one has best battery life . also make sure you read Q&A on bottom of the page for further battery saving of above ROM Thread
Lineage OS is also a good for Battery as compare to most of other Nougat Roms https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/orig-development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-14-t3466246
chungomungo1 said:
Yes it does alot fatser on custom ROMS. I have tried most of the ROMS in this forum . Battery is best in Stock Marshmellow ROM. The only ROM which is closest to stock is nearly pure Nougat ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/development/osprey-aosp-caf-7-1-1-t3576936
Try this one has best battery life . also make sure you read Q&A on bottom of the page for further battery saving of above ROM Thread
Lineage OS is also a good for Battery as compare to most of other Nougat Roms https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/orig-development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-14-t3466246
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Do you guys calibrate battery after flashing new roms?
Hi All,
My experience has been a little different from others here. My phone usage is lesser compared to others in general. So I am writing based on that:
On Stock MM 6.0.1 on Osprey I used to get 4-5 days on a single 100% charge.
On Custom Nougat 7.1.1 (GzRom Tesla) with similar usage pattern as above I consistently get 8-10 days with a single 100% charge.
Also custom roms feel way faster than stock roms.
chinchin85 said:
Hi All,
My experience has been a little different from others here. My phone usage is lesser compared to others in general. So I am writing based on that:
On Stock MM 6.0.1 on Osprey I used to get 4-5 days on a single 100% charge.
On Custom Nougat 7.1.1 (GzRom Tesla) with similar usage pattern as above I consistently get 8-10 days with a single 100% charge.
Also custom roms feel way faster than stock roms.
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Wow that's a lot, can you link me to rom thread?
Edit : Got it
libert19 said:
Do you guys calibrate battery after flashing new roms?
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whart is battery calibration?
chungomungo1 said:
whart is battery calibration?
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A thing of the past... "Calibration" today is nothing special, just let the battery drain until it shuts down on its own and then fully charge. That's all they mean.
acejavelin said:
A thing of the past... "Calibration" today is nothing special, just let the battery drain until it shuts down on its own and then fully charge. That's all they mean.
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Thanks
acejavelin said:
A thing of the past... "Calibration" today is nothing special, just let the battery drain until it shuts down on its own and then fully charge. That's all they mean.
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Does it matter or not?
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Does it matter or not?
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Not really... I've rarely seen it make any real difference unless you have an issue where it doesn't seem to be charging fully or it's shutting down at more than 3%
I want to install a rom, Nougat based which has very minimal bugs. Should be best in performance and battery backup. I am very new to this Moto community. So confused to select. Suggest me some best rom.
My personal opinion based on what I see people write in the threads. If you want Nougat, any of these three ROMS have very high reviews. You can go to those threads and ask questions.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
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If you want the complete list of ROMs available here you go:
[ROMs][Quarks][List for Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo and Droid Turbo]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73917795&postcount=91
I only bothered with Nougat and Marshmallow, didn't list any Lollipop ROMs as those are very outdated.
I'm still using RR 6.X (Marshmallow) by the way on mine and my wife's XT1225.
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I am now running of those top three -- RR 7.x instead of RR 6.X, which I was running at the time of this answer back in April. Back then I wasn't ready to move to Nougat from very stable RR 6.x, but now have.
But still these are probably the top three. It's my opinion, based on comments, questions, developer response in the threads.
ChazzMatt said:
My personal opinion based on what I see people write in the threads. If you want Nougat, any of these three ROMS have very high reviews. You can go to those threads and ask questions.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
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If you want the complete list of ROMs available here you go:
[ROMs][Quarks][List for Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo and Droid Turbo]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71394081&postcount=70
I only bothered with Nougat and Marshmallow, didn't list any Lollipop ROMs as those are outdated.
I'm still using RR 6.X by the way on mine and my wife's XT1225.
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Thankyou very much for spending ur time in replying me. which one do you suggest? Actually, in some roms (mobiles other than moto) i experienced call drop issues. its like If someone are calling ,Im unable to see any call screen or any vibration/ring sound. But they can hear that they are calling me.So, By installing one of the above roms, Would I face this issue? Please suggest me a best of the three. Thankyou
krishna13 said:
Thankyou very much for spending ur time in replying me. which one do you suggest?
Actually, in some roms (mobiles other than moto) i experienced call drop issues. its like If someone are calling ,Im unable to see any call screen or any vibration/ring sound. But they can hear that they are calling me.So, By installing one of the above roms, Would I face this issue? Please suggest me a best of the three. Thankyou
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None of those three ROMs would have that issue. All three of those devs have been active for quite a while with these Quarks. We welcome all devs -- but I will trust those who have proven over and over and over to be responsive to users questions and will help solve issues.
I was on CM12.1 (Lollipop) until last October 2016, and it was rock stable. So, I was loathe to change, but I went with RR 6.x (Marshmallow) -- yes about the time Nougat ROMs were being made. I'm still on RR 6.X, but I'm active in all the Nougat ROM threads. I see the complaints, I answer questions, and I know what are ROM issues and what are really user issues.
But when I do switch to Nougat, I am leaning slightly towards RR 7.X, just because I've had a very good experience with RR 6.X on my phone and my wife's phone. And of the three LG phones I support (for friends), I installed RR 6.X on two of those, so I'm more familiar with Resurrection Remix layout.
ChazzMatt said:
None of those three ROMs would have that issue. All three of those devs have been active for quite a while with these Quarks. We welcome all devs -- but I will trust those who have proven over and over and over to be responsive to users questions and will help solve issues.
I was on CM12.1 (Lollipop) until last October 2016, and it was rock stable. So, I was loathe to change, but I went with RR 6.x (Marshmallow) -- yes about the time Nougat ROMs were being made. I'm still on RR 6.X, but I'm active in all the Nougat ROM threads. I see the complaints, I answer questions, and I know what are ROM issues and what are really user issues.
But when I do switch to Nougat, I am leaning slightly towards RR 7.X, just because I've had a very good experience with RR 6.X on my phone and my wife's phone. And of the three LG phones I support (for friends), I installed RR 6.X on two of those, so I'm more familiar with Resurrection Remix layout.
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Hi. Please help me. I have followed each and evey step and installed RR 7.1, the latest april build. Phone booted normally. But the problem is I cant proceed with the setup after language selection as when I click on "start as a fresh" or "restore from backup" options, I am getting a message "setup wizard keeps stopping". I went to recovery and made a factory reset but no change at all. Please could u help me what to do?
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Hi. Please help me. I have followed each and evey step and installed RR 7.1, the latest april build. Phone booted normally. But the problem is I cant proceed with the setup after language selection as when I click on "start as a fresh" or "restore from backup" options, I am getting a message "setup wizard keeps stopping". I went to recovery and made a factory reset but no change at all. Please could u help me what to do?
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You should ask the question in the RR 7.X ROM thread, where users of that ROM can help you. I'm not using Nougat ROM myself.
I have flashed the RR Nougat, coming from a MM stock. Could it be realistic I experience some loss of performance at high demand tasks (like games?) and quicker drain of battery?
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I have flashed the RR Nougat, coming from a MM stock. Could it be realistic I experience some loss of performance at high demand tasks (like games?) and quicker drain of battery?
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Normally there's a trade-off of performance vs battery, depending on which kernel governor you choose. But you are experiencing both?
For instance "conservative" governor gives better battery life, "performance" governor of course gives more performance but will drain battery quicker. Then there's a whole bunch of others (especially in @bhb27 custom kernel, which you have to install separately from any ROM) that promises to give better battery AND performance. Or at least a good compromise.
I'm currently using "alucard" both as governor and hotplug.
https://androidmodguide.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html
A favourite choice and one of the original governors that Alucard_24 made. Alucard is based on ondemand but has been heavily tweaked to bring better battery life and performance. It has been known to be battery friendly without sacrificing much performance.
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Normally there's a trade-off of performance vs battery, depending on which kernel governor you choose. But you are experiencing both?
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I can remember playing aorund with CPU governors on my Xperia Pro and DROID 4, but with the current custom kernel I am using bhb27I can't find the option to switch between governors, or set certain profiles at all. I could have been missing it.
Though, in short: does MM have longer battery durance and better performance? Cause I can't find any conclusion on this, perhaps a well respected expert like you might be able to tell me?
Also thank you for the info so far, I am surprised the attention you give to devs and members to help those in need! :good::good:
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I can remember playing aorund with CPU governors on my Xperia Pro and DROID 4, but with the current custom kernel I am using bhb27I can't find the option to switch between governors, or set certain profiles at all. I could have been missing it.
Though, in short: does MM have longer battery durance and better performance? Cause I can't find any conclusion on this, perhaps a well respected expert like you might be able to tell me?
Also thank you for the info so far, I am surprised the attention you give to devs and members to help those in need! :good::good:
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You are welcome.
To change CPU governors, hotplugs, I/O schedulers and such, you need Kernel Aduitor app found over in the @bhb27 kernel thread.
He provides a modded version of the app that works well both his custom kernel and the ROM "stock" kernel. His custom kernel has even more options.
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You are welcome.
To change CPU governors, hotplugs, I/O schedulers and such, you need Kernel Aduitor app found over in the @bhb27 kernel thread.
He provides a modded version of the app that works well both his custom kernel and the ROM "stock" kernel. His custom kernel has even more options.
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I already found some modifications, set the governor to 'conservative' and it gave my Droid an instant boost and somehow a longer lasting on battery as when it was slower. I have no idea why, probably locks or such occured? Anyway it works flowless now and I will take your app also in consideration.