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On my AT&T Tilt, I have recently found the on screen keyboard popping up every time I enter a text field. It's particularly annoing since it pops up at every field. For example, it comes up when I move to the username field on a page, I turn it off, then when I move to the password field it pops up again. I don't believe this was happening until a couple of days ago. Since I use the hardware keyboard most of the time, I have no desire for the onscreen keyboard to pop up and take up screen space.
Is there a way to stop the onscreen keyboard from automatically opening whenever I move to a text field?
gai-jin said:
On my AT&T Tilt, I have recently found the on screen keyboard popping up every time I enter a text field. It's particularly annoing since it pops up at every field. For example, it comes up when I move to the username field on a page, I turn it off, then when I move to the password field it pops up again. I don't believe this was happening until a couple of days ago. Since I use the hardware keyboard most of the time, I have no desire for the onscreen keyboard to pop up and take up screen space.
Is there a way to stop the onscreen keyboard from automatically opening whenever I move to a text field?
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use null keyboards; see my related roundup at http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=368895
Note that it's pre-WM5 only and I can't guarantee all titles are compatible with WM5+.
just checked the link; PPCT's server is down now. Here's a cross-copy: http://pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18616
Thanks, I'll give that a try! It
seems rather sad to me that Windows Mobile doesn't have a way built in to tell it not to show the onscreen kb unless you ask for it. Especially on devices like the kaiser with built in hardware keyboards.
Are there any multi touch keyboard apps or can this even be done?
hmarcus said:
Are there any multi touch keyboard apps or can this even be done?
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Despite what you may have heard, multi-touch IS available on Android 2.x out of the box. It is just turned off on built-in apps in the US and this includes the keyboard, Maps, Gmail, Browser, etc. There are two ways to get a multi-touch keyboard. Either someone develops one (if it hasn't already been done, I've never checked) or we way for a ROM to be developed and have the dev enable MT in the ROM, as well as the keyboard.
I'm starting to see a bunch of multi touch apps in the market mainly drawing apps and there are a bunch of gallery apps too. Multi touch keyboard is needed very badly I hope we can get one soon.
Technically, the keyboard is already multitouch. You can see this by holding down a key and pressing another key. The instant you press the second key, it triggers the first. You can compare this behavior with the pre-2.0 behavior where it would simply act like you had a single finger on the key in the middle of your two fingers. It might not quite be as nice as the iPhone's implementation(you can't hold down shift and press a letter), but it is multitouch.
Smart Keyboard is supposedly multi-touch, but it's a rather infant app...
The stock Android Keyboard is multitouch enabled. I don't get why people think it's not. It only shows the large letter under the first finger, but that's by design... let me explain:
Press 'A' with your left thumb, then 'P' with your right. You'll only see the large 'A' under your thumb, and 'P' will look unpressed. If you release 'A' now, however, it will be typed, and the large 'P' will now appear under your right thumb. But if you release 'P' under your right thumb first, it won't be typed if you're still holding 'A'. The reason is, if you press one key, and then press and release a second so quickly that you still haven't released the first, then this is probably not an intentional tap of a letter, but an accidental brush of the screen, and it is ignored. Letters are always typed in the order you touched them, otherwise typing would be much harder at high speed. The second touch is recognized, but you don't see it until you release the first touch, because if you release the second touch before the first, it will be ignored. So type at high speed, with two thumbs at a time, and the keyboard will 'just work' and keep up. Trust me.
the dolphin browser lets you use the iphone zooming method. european N1's will have this ability anyways (I guess) since its not protected by a patent (illegal to patent such a development).
carnegie0107 said:
The stock Android Keyboard is multitouch enabled. I don't get why people think it's not. It only shows the large letter under the first finger, but that's by design... let me explain:
Press 'A' with your left thumb, then 'P' with your right. You'll only see the large 'A' under your thumb, and 'P' will look unpressed. If you release 'A' now, however, it will be typed, and the large 'P' will now appear under your right thumb. But if you release 'P' under your right thumb first, it won't be typed if you're still holding 'A'. The reason is, if you press one key, and then press and release a second so quickly that you still haven't released the first, then this is probably not an intentional tap of a letter, but an accidental brush of the screen, and it is ignored. Letters are always typed in the order you touched them, otherwise typing would be much harder at high speed. The second touch is recognized, but you don't see it until you release the first touch, because if you release the second touch before the first, it will be ignored. So type at high speed, with two thumbs at a time, and the keyboard will 'just work' and keep up. Trust me.
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Right, but that leaves you with no ability to say, hold down **** and push a letter to capitalize. What people want is for both keys to register when you are holding two keys down, in the order that you pressed them.
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Right, but that leaves you with no ability to say, hold down **** and push a letter to capitalize. What people want is for both keys to register when you are holding two keys down, in the order that you pressed them.
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Why do you need to hold down shift? Taping shift once does the same thing as holding ****, think of it was "sticky keys" if you're from a windows machine. Theres never a need to hold the shift button. Double tap it for capslock if you really need caps
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hondamx525 said:
Right, but that leaves you with no ability to say, hold down **** and push a letter to capitalize. What people want is for both keys to register when you are holding two keys down, in the order that you pressed them.
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I agree with this guy. I don't know what the other guy is talking about. The letters don't queue. I have trouble typing fast because every other letter doesn't register.
so silly to have disabled such a useful funtion, only to most likely enable it at a later date, or at least we would hope.
I find selecting and copying text very difficult.
For example, from calendar. Which by the way I have to "edit" because you can't dial a phone number from a calendar. ( Seriously google are you just kidding around with that by the way? )
Mainly the selecting part.
I find this impossible to do easily, takes multiple tries because of not getting the cursor positions right, and I don't think it's just me.
Here is my workflow. Can anyone see what I am doing wrong?
1. First, the keyboard takes up half the screen so now I'm left with only about 5 lines of text so I have to scroll around the meeting text entry to field to find the text I want to select. ( If I hide the keyboard with downswipe or other method it does not come back! )
2. When you find the text you want say a phone number 1-752-555-5234 I try to touch immediately before the 1, but as soon as I touch the screen, the entire field scrolls to the bottom.
3. Now I have to repeat step 1
4. I seem to have to do steps 1 to 3 twice for some reason (not kidding) it does not seem to give me the vertical cursor hairline (calling it a hairs width thickness is being generous ) the first time.
5. Now, I will have the cursor correctly at 1. Because if I am one digit off, I have to repeat steps 1 through 4 until I get it correctly positioned.
6. Now, long press on screen, choose select text.
7. Now repeat steps 1, 3 and 4 (skipping 2) until get the cursor at the correct ending position.
8. Once this is done, which for me can take up to several minutes to do, I can easily copy and paste the text.
If you've used an iPhone or even Windows Mobile 6.x you know how hard it is to understand that google failed so miserably at this.
bwolmarans said:
I find selecting and copying text very difficult.
For example, from calendar. Which by the way I have to "edit" because you can't dial a phone number from a calendar. ( Seriously google are you just kidding around with that by the way? )
Mainly the selecting part.
I find this impossible to do easily, takes multiple tries because of not getting the cursor positions right, and I don't think it's just me.
Here is my workflow. Can anyone see what I am doing wrong?
1. First, the keyboard takes up half the screen so now I'm left with only about 5 lines of text so I have to scroll around the meeting text entry to field to find the text I want to select. ( If I hide the keyboard with downswipe or other method it does not come back! )
2. When you find the text you want say a phone number 1-752-555-5234 I try to touch immediately before the 1, but as soon as I touch the screen, the entire field scrolls to the bottom.
3. Now I have to repeat step 1
4. I seem to have to do steps 1 to 3 twice for some reason (not kidding) it does not seem to give me the vertical cursor hairline (calling it a hairs width thickness is being generous ) the first time.
5. Now, I will have the cursor correctly at 1. Because if I am one digit off, I have to repeat steps 1 through 4 until I get it correctly positioned.
6. Now, long press on screen, choose select text.
7. Now repeat steps 1, 3 and 4 (skipping 2) until get the cursor at the correct ending position.
8. Once this is done, which for me can take up to several minutes to do, I can easily copy and paste the text.
If you've used an iPhone or even Windows Mobile 6.x you know how hard it is to understand that google failed so miserably at this.
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While I admit copying/pasting does not seem particularly easy on our phones, the Calendar app we have is NOT the stock Android one so you should actually aim your criticism at Samsung. Same with the Messaging app (Samsung's work, not Google's). I'm slightly more used to the iPhone long press technique and it's magnifying glass technique, but I'm sure it's something they'll (they being Samsung) will attempt to improve
if you are using the Samsung keboard. Long press the 123? key, that will take you to an editing menu.
cesierra said:
if you are using the Samsung keboard. Long press the 123? key, that will take you to an editing menu.
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This works on the swype keyboard as well; swipe your finger to the right from the info button to the SYM button and it brings up a selection keyboard. Very useful
-deuX`
cesierra said:
if you are using the Samsung keboard. Long press the 123? key, that will take you to an editing menu.
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And your point is? Have you ever tried selecting test with that? Clearly not.
EDIT: My Bad. THANK YOU, Cesierra.
With a little practice that works great. For those who are curious, it works. It positions the cursor start position at the bottom of the calendar entry. From there you can up-arrow to position the cursor exactly where you want, then selection is easy. A very good kludge as kludges go, I am impressed.
you are welcome
Thank you cesierra/deuX!
I learned something new here.
I really like it when someones first post is a helpful one
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This works on the swype keyboard as well; swipe your finger to the right from the info button to the SYM button and it brings up a selection keyboard. Very useful
-deuX`
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Cool thanks for sharing... never knew that!
So I have the LockBot Pro on my HTC Hero and was loving it over the last few weeks as I have start customizing my phone (Non-Root.) I have been using the option to swipe and then enter a 4 character numerical code to unlock the phone.
Today I happen to notice that when I bring up the lock screen where you either have to swipe and/or enter the code, instead of doing either, if I just hit the call button, it bypasses it all, therefore making the purpose of the lock screen pointless. I wanted the lock screen with the numerical pin code for security purposes, and hitting the call button to bypass is not acceptable to me.
Do I maybe have an option set incorrectly that is allowing this to occur or is this a bug in the program?
Can anyone recommend me a good, sorry, a great Lock Screen APP (Preferably) one where you can set some kind of code you must enter to unlock the phone?
Thank you,
Whiteice
I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
I agree completely. I'm forever forgetting that picking up the device doesn't just turn it on and that I have to press the button. Does anyone know of an easier way to wake the device so all I have to do is tap the fingerprint sensor?
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ekerbuddyeker said:
I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
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One thing I did find is that if you set up the fingerprint scanner, that touching the fingerprint scanner immediately unlocks and turns on the device.
Iris scanner not a problem for me at all, I set the virtual home button force press to activate it straight away, power button or home button doubletap lets me see my notifications without activating the iris scanner. I always hold my phone in the angle that the iris scanner works in, so it usually takes less than one second to go from screen off to home screen, with the iris scanner and force-touch combo. But everyone has different ways of using their devices, so a non-issue for me might be a big issue for someone else
I turned off the always on display. Less frustrating!
Is there a way to make power go on when you pick k up the device?
When AOD is on you can just double tap the home button to wake the device. Just an fyi
ekerbuddyeker said:
I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
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Yep it is just you, you a a special kind.
Iris scanner works for me driving in the dark when phone is mounted on my magnetic windshield mount. Took a while to get the placement right tho but rest assured-iris is wonderful it just takes trial and error
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For the first few hours I was regretting upgrading. Now I could never go back. It just takes getting used to.
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The issue for me with the read scanner is the stupid placement. i constantly have to tap it twice because to hit it the first time i have to kinda slide my finger across the back to find it, then lift off and press down again to activate it. It would be a lot better if i didnt need to lift and press again, then if it didnt read it when i slide my finger over it into position (because it has tried to read it before my finger was properly over the scanner), then it would read it 5ms later when it was actually in the correct place. instead it fails to read it and i need to lift my finger off it before it will try again.
The second issue for me is even bigger, if phone is sitting on the desk, there is no quick easy way to unlock it. i cant get to the fingerprint scanner, and to use the iris scanner i would have to stand up and move my head over the top of the desk. so the only option without picking the thing up is to activate it with a hard home button press and then type in the pin. if the fingerprint scanner was on the front, then it would be perfect, just put my finger on it and its done.
The only thing keeping me sane at the moment is that I just came from an S5 where the only way to unlock it was home key, THEN swipe away the stupid false second lock screen, THEN entering pin/pattern. Even hitting the fingerprint scanner wrongly a couple of times is still so much faster than unlocking my s5 was but this could have been so much better if it was on the front (or one the back in a sensible place like slightly below the camera and in the middle.
Sounds like you guys need to change some settings.
MY phone is fast and easy. Pick it up and put my finger on the fingerprint sensor and im at the home screen.
Press power button and the iris picks up right away and im at the home screen.
To start off make sure you setup your iris scanner good. Make sure your in well lite lighting and the front camera is clean and clear.
Second in your settings under Lock Screen > Iris Sensor > Iris Unlock ON , Iris unlock when screen turns on ON,
Then for finger print the same thing. Fingerprint Scanner > Fingerprint unlock ON
I find it easier just use the fingerprint sensor or the virtual home button. When the phone's off, you can just put your whole fingertip on the sensor and it automatically unlocks (if it verifies you print properly). Also the virtual home button works when the screen's off. you can hold the home button when the screen's off, then choose your unlock method. Other than that it's a pain to press the power button, then use the fingerprint sensor or pattern unlock.
I bounce between fingerprint and facial recognition. It's taking some getting used to but it isn't that bad.
You can also set it to just use force touch to unlock the phone
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Quick tip, In display settings -> navigation bar -> enable home press to unlock.
Found that by doing this its so much quicker accessing the iris scanner or going straight to pin/pattern screen.
In case you didn't know, you can press the home button when the screen is off [yes, you can totally press it when the screen if off!]
Phone is super fast for me. Scanner could be in a better postion but it works fine. Also try out smart lock. It let you trust certain places and not have to use anything to unlock.
I haven't had issues turning on the phone, but if you have the AOD on, it is a lil annoying since you have to press the home button on the screen with some pressure before you go to the lock screen, especially if you use anything else, besides the fingerprint sensor as it will unlock while being on the AOD, to unlock you phone.
I will say that setting up the fingerprint scanner is slightly annoying since if your finger isn't on there just right, it'll give you an error. After it's setup, I've found that it works pretty well. And, if you use a case on your phone, thicker cases might be a slight problem. I noticed that while locating the sensor is easier with a case, thicker case, like the Spigen Slim Armor, will be harder because of the added lip.