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Highlighting text using keyboard

I do a bit of text editing on my Palm and don't like having to take the stylus out of its silo when I'm using the keyboard, just to move text.
So how do I select text using the keyboard?
The Treo manual says:
Highlighting text
You can use the 5-way or the stylus to
highlight text on the screen:
• 5-way: Press and hold Shift ( or
) while pressing Right , Left ,
Up , or Down to extend the
highlight in that direction.
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I must be doing something wrong, but I can't get that to work.

Hi,
The 5 way button moves you round a text (email, SMS etc) the same way your cursor keys do on your pc.
If you hold the shift key on your treo the 5 way button will highlight: > next character, < preceding character, v line below, ^ line above.
Multiple presses while still holding shift allow you to select large blocks of text easily.
Cheers
Angus

If you hold the shift key on your treo the 5 way button will highlight
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Yes, that's what the manual says. My point is that it doesn't work. Not for me. Not on my device.
The Shift key works. Pressing it (either the left or right one) displays the "up arrow" icon. The 5-way button works - I can move the cursor. Pressing and holding the shift while using the 5-way button doesn't do anything (i.e. I just move the cursor around the text without selecting anything).

Just goes to prove - should have checked it, it doesn't do what the manual says at all - although it does work on my old treo 600. What a pain!

yes, i have been email to palm, and also call up to palm. they say it is a mistake from palm company, and will update the rom soon!! OMG!!! That`s Suck!!!

New Dopod C500 user coming from Blackberry 8700

Disclaimer: It's my first Windows phone - I've been a Blackberry user for a few years, and might have been conditioned to using it.
A few impressions: I like the Vox very much. Although it feels a lot slower, it has the small size, has the "normal" phone pads where the 2=ABC, 3=DEF - I missed it a lot on the Blackberry, has WiFi, a 2MP camera (which I doubt I'll use much), and a truly useful Bluetooth (the Blackberry's default profile set is painfully small)
On the other hand, there are a lot of minor things that makes using the Vox a pain compared to the Blackberry...here're my top rants:
1. I've been looking for ways to display the day of week on the home screen. Why MS leaves it out is very baffling.
2. You have to press "unlock" to unlock the phone. On the BB I could just start typing the passwords.
3. Four fixed profiles - I'd like to define new profiles, please. It should be easy?
4. Autotext: I miss tremendously the eagerness of the Blackberry to prevent me from having to hit "shift". Pressing the space can mean a dot, an @ sign, etc. at different places. Pressing and holding a key means capitalizing, double space inserts period, "br" means open bracket, etc.
5. Backspace key on the slideout keyboard is not doing what it is supposed to, at least in pocket IE and Quicknote- pressing and holding does not repeat the key, so to delete the URL on the address bar I have to press the backspace X number of times...or just hold the backspace key on the numeric keypad.
6. On each contact I have to choose "Last, First" or "First Last" instead of a global setting...WHY?
7. I thought the phone should be smart enough to enable the "traditional" English IME when the keyboard is slided out. The "smart" English IME only has its place when the phone keypad - when you have the full keyboard, why guess and force me to hit "Enter" after every word? I should be able to use the arrow keys any time to confirm what I have already typed without "Enter".
8. Those annoying sounds - Wifi turns off, initiating a call, etc. Why?
9. Networking Wizard - that tells me my carrier is not in its database, offers me "Don't ask me again" checkbox that I cannot find a way to check.
10. Ending a call does not automatically bring me back to the home screen. That's annoying.
11. No page up/page down anywhere. It's a PITA in pocket IE.
I know it's a lot of rant - I don't know which ones of these things are fixable and which aren't. After searching for a bit I know #8 is fixable via registry hacks. Don't know about anything else.
I'm really trying to move away from the trusty Blackberry, which is getting old (but holding very well after surviving countless, vigorous abuses like dropping down subway platforms, flying towards brick walls, etc.). So by putting the shortcomings of the Vox together in one message, I hope someone may point out ways to tweak/fix it.
Sorry for the long rant. I'm really trying to use the Vox - or is "life after Blackberry" an oxymoron?

Some good news:
#1 is solved. HKLM\nls\overrides, add "ddd" to SSDte. Mine is now "ddd yyyy-MM-dd" and it works perfectly. Now when I try to update the time in the setting menu, it automatically updates the DOW too!
#4 - I read there's something called "Kai's Autocorrect" - is a pay-software, but it might do what I need...anyone knows some other proggie that can replace-as-you-type?
#6 - still trying - although it looks like there's a registry hack for it.
#8 - easily fixed thru widely available reg hacks!!
#10 - I just realized it does, but I don't want the 5 seconds or so delay. Maybe there's a tweak somewhere...
#11 - Have I overlooked? Pgup/Pgdn are there - maybe I'm asking for too much to use "space" as Pgdn?

How to change input method easier?

i found sometimes it is very hard to bring out the input selection menu by touching the small arrow on bottom of the screen... Not sure it is problem of my device or not. but as i said, when i need to change input method i have to touch the arrow several time to see the selection menu. so i'm wondering if there's a shortcut key for change input method?

yes i have the same confuse
why all the arrow button is so small in wm OS
iphone's touch button is big ,so i can use my hand easy
wm should learn iphone

Are you specifically talking about the unresponsiveness - lag when you hit that small button. Takes about 5 secs to bring the menu up? I heard there was a registry fix for it some where but never tried it. You can search for it.
If you are talking about the button being small and hard to hit, then I don't know how to help you there. Perhaps you can link a command to pop open that menu and then map that command to a hardware button? Do you switch SIPs a lot?

yes, it is the unresponse, it is frustrating...
i 'll search for the registry fix.

In that case here's one thread that mentions a registry fix for it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301433
Read through it, try it and post your results if it works or not. Note one user mentioned they had to HR, so backup just in case.

thank you hambola, it really works. that registry fix is like a magic

Disable Keypress "Preview" As You Type

I've disabled all of the auto-correct and suggestion SIP options on the TP and that works great, HOWEVER (heh, heh)...
Is there any way to turn off that annoying "what-you're-typing-preview" that always appears on-screen as you type? It is such a waste of screen real estate.
Do you know what I mean? I'll explain...
For example:
Code:
PREVIEW STYLE 1
1. Start a new text message.
2. Pop out your physical keyboard
3. Start typing!
You will see what you type appear in a little "preview window" at the bottom of your screen.
Now here's the REALLY annoying one...
Code:
PREVIEW STYLE 2
1. Open an existing SMS message (threaded view)
2. Pop out your physical keyboard
3. Start typing...
You will see the preview appear *above* your text this time. Even MORE annoying since it's taking up real estate in the typing area this time around.
I've been scrounging for a solution to this and really hope one exists.
Thanks for everything, guys!

press ctrl + space and choose abc

Thank-you VERY MUCH, Brendo!
I thought that I had already done this but I realize now that it was probably in my dreams.
(YES -- I dream about my TP -- don't lie -- YOU DO, TOO!!!).
Lol.
Take care.

Hi Guys, probably very silly of me, but 'choose abc'. Do we have a 'abc' button? I can't seem to find out what you mean with this. Also pressing cntrl + space and typing abc does nothing (obviously). Help me. I also find the typing preview window quite annoying, especially since I have been so happy to be able to turn the auto correct options off.

It can be found on the SIP - pop up keyboard, providing you have "full keyboard", phone keyboard etc selected and not the windows default keyboard. You will see a button marked ABC->T9. Make sure T9 is not selected.

Gee thnx ardsar, this was clear and worked. Indeed I had to change the layout of my pop up keyboard, as I hardly ever use it and had it in the default keyboard mode.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU (yes, I'm shouting )
If there was anything that pissed me off on this phone, it was the goddamn useless preview!
Why do they expect that you're a retard, if you bought HTC phone? I thought these phones were for smart people

That's kool that it will take the dialog away but while I'm in programs it still types the letters in the background and causes them to skip. Is there any way to disable the typing of keys in the background while still reading the keystrokes. Let's say I'm using PocketNES while I'm in the game it reads the hardware keyboard as typing letters when I'm not trying to type any message. I would just like to use the letters as buttons instead. Hopefully someone has found a solution to the problem!

Multitouch Keyboard

Are there any multi touch keyboard apps or can this even be done?

hmarcus said:
Are there any multi touch keyboard apps or can this even be done?
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Despite what you may have heard, multi-touch IS available on Android 2.x out of the box. It is just turned off on built-in apps in the US and this includes the keyboard, Maps, Gmail, Browser, etc. There are two ways to get a multi-touch keyboard. Either someone develops one (if it hasn't already been done, I've never checked) or we way for a ROM to be developed and have the dev enable MT in the ROM, as well as the keyboard.

I'm starting to see a bunch of multi touch apps in the market mainly drawing apps and there are a bunch of gallery apps too. Multi touch keyboard is needed very badly I hope we can get one soon.

Technically, the keyboard is already multitouch. You can see this by holding down a key and pressing another key. The instant you press the second key, it triggers the first. You can compare this behavior with the pre-2.0 behavior where it would simply act like you had a single finger on the key in the middle of your two fingers. It might not quite be as nice as the iPhone's implementation(you can't hold down shift and press a letter), but it is multitouch.

Smart Keyboard is supposedly multi-touch, but it's a rather infant app...

The stock Android Keyboard is multitouch enabled. I don't get why people think it's not. It only shows the large letter under the first finger, but that's by design... let me explain:
Press 'A' with your left thumb, then 'P' with your right. You'll only see the large 'A' under your thumb, and 'P' will look unpressed. If you release 'A' now, however, it will be typed, and the large 'P' will now appear under your right thumb. But if you release 'P' under your right thumb first, it won't be typed if you're still holding 'A'. The reason is, if you press one key, and then press and release a second so quickly that you still haven't released the first, then this is probably not an intentional tap of a letter, but an accidental brush of the screen, and it is ignored. Letters are always typed in the order you touched them, otherwise typing would be much harder at high speed. The second touch is recognized, but you don't see it until you release the first touch, because if you release the second touch before the first, it will be ignored. So type at high speed, with two thumbs at a time, and the keyboard will 'just work' and keep up. Trust me.

the dolphin browser lets you use the iphone zooming method. european N1's will have this ability anyways (I guess) since its not protected by a patent (illegal to patent such a development).

carnegie0107 said:
The stock Android Keyboard is multitouch enabled. I don't get why people think it's not. It only shows the large letter under the first finger, but that's by design... let me explain:
Press 'A' with your left thumb, then 'P' with your right. You'll only see the large 'A' under your thumb, and 'P' will look unpressed. If you release 'A' now, however, it will be typed, and the large 'P' will now appear under your right thumb. But if you release 'P' under your right thumb first, it won't be typed if you're still holding 'A'. The reason is, if you press one key, and then press and release a second so quickly that you still haven't released the first, then this is probably not an intentional tap of a letter, but an accidental brush of the screen, and it is ignored. Letters are always typed in the order you touched them, otherwise typing would be much harder at high speed. The second touch is recognized, but you don't see it until you release the first touch, because if you release the second touch before the first, it will be ignored. So type at high speed, with two thumbs at a time, and the keyboard will 'just work' and keep up. Trust me.
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Right, but that leaves you with no ability to say, hold down **** and push a letter to capitalize. What people want is for both keys to register when you are holding two keys down, in the order that you pressed them.

hondamx525 said:
Right, but that leaves you with no ability to say, hold down **** and push a letter to capitalize. What people want is for both keys to register when you are holding two keys down, in the order that you pressed them.
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Why do you need to hold down shift? Taping shift once does the same thing as holding ****, think of it was "sticky keys" if you're from a windows machine. Theres never a need to hold the shift button. Double tap it for capslock if you really need caps

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hondamx525 said:
Right, but that leaves you with no ability to say, hold down **** and push a letter to capitalize. What people want is for both keys to register when you are holding two keys down, in the order that you pressed them.
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I agree with this guy. I don't know what the other guy is talking about. The letters don't queue. I have trouble typing fast because every other letter doesn't register.
so silly to have disabled such a useful funtion, only to most likely enable it at a later date, or at least we would hope.