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Desire i.c.w. SE HBH-DS200-> bad audio quality

I've been using this headset for a long time now. And I would like to use it with my desire as well. But the sound quality is so poor that it's like listening to a 56k mp3 file while actually I'm playing a 320kbps mp3.
It seems to me that somehow the bitrate on the bluetooth connection isn't high enough(very low actually).
Does anybody here know how I can change that easily? Or do you have any other solutions for this problem without buying a new headset.
btw, I use a Sennheiser HD215 headphone or the SE in-ear ear buds.
thanks in advance

I'm using the SE MW600 and I have no problems. Using stock rom with the update.

Zhypr said:
I'm using the SE MW600 and I have no problems. Using stock rom with the update.
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+1 over here

flitjes said:
+1 over here
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Good for you, but I would like to know how to adjust the bluetooth bitrate on Android.
sorry if I sound a bit grumpy but I've been searching for about 1,5 days straight and still found nothing.

Amrod89 said:
Good for you, but I would like to know how to adjust the bluetooth bitrate on Android.
sorry if I sound a bit grumpy but I've been searching for about 1,5 days straight and still found nothing.
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Have you selected the media and phone options in advanced bluetooth settings????

kamidadevil said:
Have you selected the media and phone options in advanced bluetooth settings????
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No actually I never touched these settings because they were already enabled when I paired the devices. And I figured it would be quite crucial to have those settings enabled if I wanted to use those profiles.

Amrod89 said:
Good for you, but I would like to know how to adjust the bluetooth bitrate on Android.
sorry if I sound a bit grumpy but I've been searching for about 1,5 days straight and still found nothing.
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Was hoping you would conclude from my post that there isn't a problem with the Desire regarding bitrates over bluetooth. Does the headset work on other devices without problems?

Zhypr said:
Was hoping you would conclude from my post that there isn't a problem with the Desire regarding bitrates over bluetooth. Does the headset work on other devices without problems?
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Ok, I know that for example the mw600 headset from SE works fine. So I think it's just the combination of devices, but that would be solved if I would be able to alter the bitrate.
I have used the headset with other devices without any problem, other than that I had to set the bitrate higher on a WM 6.5 device.

Voodoo Control Plus app. Best thing sense sliced bread

Hey everyone,
If you know anything about Voodoo sound, then you know that it is amazing on the Galaxy S phones.
Well our man Supercurio Made this amazing app that does not rely on a modified Kernel.
It does cost $2. But is well worth supporting his hard work for.
Here ///https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.controlappdonate&feature=search_result

Ok ordered it and hopefully I am able to make it sound great like I had it on my NS b4!!

Just picked it up myself as well.

Wow that's amazing. Well worth the $2.

Whatta difference i will say!! it is definitely worth the couple of bucks
Sent from my SGH-T959V using XDA Premium App

Question
Being the Noob android user that I am, I have a question. I'm a bit confused if I need anything special on my phone to use this app. My phone is rooted which I believe was one pre-requisite. I would love to help the developer by purchasing this, but want to make sure I'm able to actually use it Being I know nothing yet about sound that came with my device I figured I would ask here first.

madcoil said:
Being the Noob android user that I am, I have a question. I'm a bit confused if I need anything special on my phone to use this app. My phone is rooted which I believe was one pre-requisite. I would love to help the developer by purchasing this, but want to make sure I'm able to actually use it Being I know nothing yet about sound that came with my device I figured I would ask here first.
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All you need is rooted device. If you plug in your headphones and listen to it normally.
Then get this app and enable it. Listen again with it enabled. The sound is way better and can get much louder. Really be careful not to go to loud or you will hurt your ears. ;-)
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Thanks
Thanks for the response. Great app, love it! Definitely sounds better.

how to get it to automatically be default
How do u get it to default to voodoo. I checked everything but does show the icon up in the left hand corner on reboot. Settings r still accurate

how to get it to automatically be default
How do u get it to default to voodoo. I checked everything but does show the icon up in the left hand corner on reboot. Settings r still accurate

Does this help with in call volume?

One of the other things to remember. It really helps with recording videos in loud environments.
I have tried to record at concerts and my videos have turned out horribly due to the sound. I tested it out today with the Recording setting on in my car with music blaring and it was amazing how well the audio sounded compared to without this setting on.
#1. I use an FM transmitter from my phone jack to radio, so it improves the sound tremendously.
#2. I record at concerts and this will greatly improve the audio for those videos, it's like night and day.

heartspains88 said:
Does this help with in call volume?
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I don't think it affects that speaker.
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I know it's a stretch, but can someone post audio samples of BEFORE and AFTER this app?
I stream Pandora from my phone to my car stereo, will it improve the sound that much more?

F1nest said:
I know it's a stretch, but can someone post audio samples of BEFORE and AFTER this app?
I stream Pandora from my phone to my car stereo, will it improve the sound that much more?
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It's probably hard to tell the difference here. This is only for recording volumes. I did this test as a way to see the difference. I video alot of concerts and the past videos have sucked for audio.
With Voodoo Control Plus (High Quality audio feature checked)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sdLjx9L9W8
Without Voodoo Control Plus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxKdHhnJgnw
In regards to does it improve the sounds? Yes it does. I use the pandora and the amazon cloud player on my device via an FM transmitter to my car's stereo. Not only can you boost the volume, but it improves the quality of the sound too.
It's definitely worth the 2 bucks in my opinion, if not for the improvements of sound level and quality, then for the ability to record videos in loud environments without it being garbled.

F1nest said:
I know it's a stretch, but can someone post audio samples of BEFORE and AFTER this app?
I stream Pandora from my phone to my car stereo, will it improve the sound that much more?
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Its hard to tell from the videos, but yes it will make a noticeable difference. Its 2 bucks, less than a pack of smokes.

Bl4ckpheniX said:
Its hard to tell from the videos, but yes it will make a noticeable difference. Its 2 bucks, less than a pack of smokes.
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I only wish I had voodoo sound / control plus on my phone when I shot this video last month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHxlDaz9Hg
the sound came out horrible. Now I know

madcoil said:
How do u get it to default to voodoo. I checked everything but does show the icon up in the left hand corner on reboot. Settings r still accurate
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They will remain the same and each time you reboot if you have it set up to load up after reboot and it will keep the same settings

Just a heads up.
The special price of $2 is going to change Monday. Get it before then and save some Cheddar. ;-)
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Pretty noticable difference, worth the whole whopping 200cents

I think I may have discovered a fix for the audio issues...

So ever since I got this phone, I've been dissatisfied with the audio quality. No matter what I did, no matter which equalizer I tried, the sound was too low, too muffled, and just plain BAD. I bought a new bluetooth car stereo this week & I haven't even been able to enjoy it that much cause the streaming audio sounds like ear-rape. Tonight I was messing around with Bloat Freezer and I noticed a system app on the list called "Music enhancer". I wondered if this had anything to do with the craptastic audio quality, so I decided to freeze it & see what happened. To my joy, my music now sounds FAR better! It's like night & day, no more crackling, no more muffled audio
I dunno if anyone else is having problems with audio of if this little trick has already been discovered, but I figured I'd share with the class either way. Don't forget to hit that thanks button if I've helped you out
EDIT: You must be temp-rooted to do this.

Will give this a try, thanks
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that goes in hand with my deduction that there was something messing with the audio that HTC implemented. Ill be trying this soon.

I've downloaded Bloat Freezer but my phone isn't ROOTED... so i can't use the APP =\

greengoldmello said:
that goes in hand with my deduction that there was something messing with the audio that HTC implemented. Ill be trying this soon.
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This was what I thought too, it sounded like there was a hidden equalizer on the 'terrible' setting in there somewhere.
Man, I cannot WAIT for custom roms for this phone. SO much crapware

Koomoo said:
I've downloaded Bloat Freezer but my phone isn't ROOTED... so i can't use the APP =\
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Just edited my first post to include that you have to be temp-rooted to do this. Head over to the sensation android development section & download one of the temp-root packages(I recommend Eugene's- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161283). Follow the instructions to temp-root your phone if you wanna do this trick. Feel free to PM me if you need any help doing this

kabuk1 said:
Just edited my first post to include that you have to be temp-rooted to do this. Head over to the sensation android development section & download one of the temp-root packages(I recommend Eugene's- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161283). Follow the instructions to temp-root your phone if you wanna do this trick. Feel free to PM me if you need any help doing this
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Thanks! I haven't Tried Temp Rooting my Sensation yet D: . They needa unlock teh boot loader!!!

Hmm, I haven't had any real incentive to temp root, but I'll give this a shot tomorrow.

kabuk1 said:
So ever since I got this phone, I've been dissatisfied with the audio quality. No matter what I did, no matter which equalizer I tried, the sound was too low, too muffled, and just plain BAD. I bought a new bluetooth car stereo this week & I haven't even been able to enjoy it that much cause the streaming audio sounds like ear-rape. Tonight I was messing around with Bloat Freezer and I noticed a system app on the list called "Music enhancer". I wondered if this had anything to do with the craptastic audio quality, so I decided to freeze it & see what happened. To my joy, my music now sounds FAR better! It's like night & day, no more crackling, no more muffled audio
I dunno if anyone else is having problems with audio of if this little trick has already been discovered, but I figured I'd share with the class either way. Don't forget to hit that thanks button if I've helped you out
EDIT: You must be temp-rooted to do this.
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Thanks for the heads up.
I ran Droid System Suite and in tasks I found it and turned it off.
I'm not temp rooted,BTW [not that I know of].
I'll let you know what I find.
Dayam!!
That works!
The top of my screen shows a music note with a stroke or bar through it.
I guess that means I've disabled it.

@the radius kid, no that just means you have your phone on silent lol
Okay I temp rooted and froze music
enhancer through titanium backup. I tried playing a song before and after and didn't notice any difference. when you tried it, was it with a music file or like ringtones and stuff. It seems like you may be on to something there.

The Radius Kid said:
Thanks for the heads up.
I ran Droid System Suite and in tasks I found it and turned it off.
I'm not temp rooted,BTW [not that I know of].
I'll let you know what I find.
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Unfortunately, this way won't keep it turned off for long, it'll eventually restart. The only way to really "kill" apps until we get real root is to temp root & freeze them.
smoochiezz24 said:
Okay I temp rooted and froze music
enhancer through titanium backup. I tried playing a song before and after and didn't notice any difference. when you tried it, was it with a music file or like ringtones and stuff. It seems like you may be on to something there.
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I'm playing music. I haven't noticed much difference with ringtones. I really dunno if this tweak will work for everyone, YMMV, but hopefully now that we have some clues we can delve a bit deeper into this issue. One thing that you might try though, is disabling it via ADB. I've noticed that some frozen apps don't get totally frozen unless you do it with ADB.

Froze it using Titanium Backup. Testing now.

OP - in the HTC Music app, Settings > Sound Enhancer, did you have that set to "None"?
I do and the sound on my phone is quite good, without your procedure.

I actually find that the Music Enhancer HELPS my audio quality. Without it, its like listening to music with the headphones sitting on a table in front of me rather than on my ears...
I guess I am just lucky? I have none of the problems that others have been reporting...All except for one big one...DUST UNDER THE SCREEN! (Im on the 2nd phone too!)
Matt

smoochiezz24 said:
@The Radius Kid, no that just means you have your phone on silent lol.
Okay I temp rooted and froze music
enhancer through titanium backup. I tried playing a song before and after and didn't notice any difference. when you tried it, was it with a music file or like ringtones and stuff. It seems like you may be on to something there.
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This Android stuff takes some getting used to.
The only thing I'm finding is that I have to kill the app' again when I restart the phone,otherwise it does seem to make a difference.

Always get a clicking sound when audio starts regardless of the source with and without this fix.

Just like my Nexus 1, this phone has crap audio quality over headphones and on the speaker. not to mention the mic. HTC seems to always cheap out on these components, my Nexus S was FAAAR superior in this regard. Although I sold it for the bigger screen, and more powerful processor.

Wish there was a way to restore a backup of DSP Manager. I've tried with TB, but the restore option is not available.
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Hi !
I have installed Bloat Freezer and I cannot find anything called "Music enhancer" or similar in the list ??
My rom is spanish so all apss are in spanish.. but I cannot find any similar name...
U sure that is a HTC app ?? maybe u installed it ?? Any help ?? The volume problem is big !
Really TY !

gracias ,vamos a probarlo. espero que resulte!
kabuk1 said:
So ever since I got this phone, I've been dissatisfied with the audio quality. No matter what I did, no matter which equalizer I tried, the sound was too low, too muffled, and just plain BAD. I bought a new bluetooth car stereo this week & I haven't even been able to enjoy it that much cause the streaming audio sounds like ear-rape. Tonight I was messing around with Bloat Freezer and I noticed a system app on the list called "Music enhancer". I wondered if this had anything to do with the craptastic audio quality, so I decided to freeze it & see what happened. To my joy, my music now sounds FAR better! It's like night & day, no more crackling, no more muffled audio
I dunno if anyone else is having problems with audio of if this little trick has already been discovered, but I figured I'd share with the class either way. Don't forget to hit that thanks button if I've helped you out
EDIT: You must be temp-rooted to do this.
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gracias ,vamos a probarlo. espero que resulte!

Music Clipping...

I am really trying to like this phone. I came from an htc evo and it took everything i threw at it. Drops, bricks, crappy coded software. It just came back for more. But you know what it did really well? Play music really loud at brain damage levels. You could max the eq and it just went to town. I loved that #$%& phone. Anyways enough of my drama, is there anyway to get this phone to handle high input from he eq or is it a hardware limitation?

Madelynn28 said:
... is there anyway to get this phone to handle high input from he eq or is it a hardware limitation?
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If you are talking about hardware limitations, I don't have the answer, but if you haven't already tried software then you could try the Voodoo app in the market (I know the free version doesn't work for our phones yet, but I've read that the paid version will... don't know if that's true or not). It has a built in audio enhancer. There's also PlayerPro DSP, PowerAmp, and even BoomBoxoid Music Player all available in the market. One of those might be able to get you back to having cause some hearing loss.

I have pro player, power amp, and cube 3, plus a eq from the market installed. But now that you mention it voodoo when i ran gummy fe worked fine. Hmmm maybe this could be a gb issue. Thank you for the reply.

DragoonBrethren said:
If you are talking about hardware limitations, I don't have the answer, but if you haven't already tried software then you could try the Voodoo app in the market (I know the free version doesn't work for our phones yet, but I've read that the paid version will... don't know if that's true or not). It has a built in audio enhancer. There's also PlayerPro DSP, PowerAmp, and even BoomBoxoid Music Player all available in the market. One of those might be able to get you back to having cause some hearing loss.
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The paid version mostly works. Bass boost doesn't seem to do anything, but the volume hack works well. Requires root, but if you have GB, then I'm sure you have root.

Got the answer in the humble thread. Just had to clear my caches. Thanks for your time and input.

lol it was your answer that fixed it

Lg V20 QuadDAC vs. Astell & Kern AK240 SS HiFi music player (($3400)) oops.

http://www.ubergizmo.com/articles/lg-v20-quad-dac-how-it-works/
I just quotes Source ubergizmo .. worth reading
,,..."I COMPARED THE LG V20 WITH A $3400 PLAYER: NO PERCEPTIBLE DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY"
:good:
Finally, I went “high-end” and borrowed a pair of Sennheiser HD 800 (~$1,400) and an Astell & Kern AK240 SS HiFi music player (~3,000). With the HD 800 headphones, I compared the LG V20 with that $3400 player: no perceptible difference in quality. If you take away one thing about this article, that should be it...,,
What is the LG V20’s “Quad DAC” and how does it affect audio quality?
http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-v20-quad-dac-explained-713587/
ESS Technology Brings Advanced Audiophile Features to Mobile Devices for the First Time
The ES9218 Highly Integrated HiFi SoC combines Quad 32-bit stereo DAC channels, Analog Volume Control, 2Vrms outputs and HyperStream II Technology
http://www.esstech.com/index.php?cID=419

It does sound amazing. I just wish I could get the stock music player on my AT&T variant so I know I'm getting the full benefit of the DAC

I haven't really played with the DAC on the v20 yet but this is pretty amazing if true.
I loved the v10 DAC of course I am not using thousand dollar headphones I've got Bose QC 25s and Klipsch. Both show a fair difference with the v10 DAC.
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nerdninja said:
It does sound amazing. I just wish I could get the stock music player on my AT&T variant so I know I'm getting the full benefit of the DAC
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This was written by a forum moderator PowerAMP: :good:
(Ie there is a chance that the output can handle High Res files)
,,...Yes, at the moment work is ongoing on the new user interface to allow v3 to be release officially. Then I'm sure Max will look at other devices and high-rez output (the V20 isn't even officially listed as working yet, you're lucky you managed to get high-rez output working on it). ...,,

nerdninja said:
It does sound amazing. I just wish I could get the stock music player on my AT&T variant so I know I'm getting the full benefit of the DAC
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Download a US996 ROM and take the APK out of their priv-app folders and put it in yours.
Now you have the v20 music player.

I've tried that and I always get a "Package appears to be Corrupt" error. Doesn't matter which ROM I take it from

nerdninja said:
I've tried that and I always get a "Package appears to be Corrupt" error. Doesn't matter which ROM I take it from
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Get the DAC fix from the playstore , it definitely works with the v20 and 3rd party players.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phascinate.lgv10.dacfix&hl=en

Pjs187 said:
Get the DAC fix from the playstore , it definitely works with the v20 and 3rd party players.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phascinate.lgv10.dacfix&hl=en
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I would love to see people stop suggesting this - the DAC fix app hasn't even been needed on the V10 for some time (since marshmallow), and does nothing for the V20. What the V20 needs, is a fix to allow apps other than the stock app to output higher than 44khz (more info here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70637384&postcount=44)

Divine_Madcat said:
I would love to see people stop suggesting this - the DAC fix app hasn't even been needed on the V10 for some time (since marshmallow), and does nothing for the V20. What the V20 needs, is a fix to allow apps other than the stock app to output higher than 44khz (more info here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70637384&postcount=44)
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Just trying to help, it seemed like it made a difference on my phone with high impedance headphones, anyway here's the apk for stock lg music app just pulled it from my T-Mobile v20, good luck.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B72lH1bFfFJ3WmlQRFctS1JRck0/view?usp=drivesdk

Pjs187 said:
Just trying to help, it seemed like it made a difference on my phone with high impedance headphones, anyway here's the apk for stock lg music app just pulled it from my T-Mobile v20, good luck.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B72lH1bFfFJ3WmlQRFctS1JRck0/view?usp=drivesdk
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I tried installing the apk but it says its corrupt. Thanks anyways!

Too bad the V20 doesn't do dsd
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xxxrichievxxx said:
I tried installing the apk but it says its corrupt. Thanks anyways!
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Cant just install a system only app.
It needs to be put into system/priv-app/
And permissions set to match the other apps in
That directory. It works on att. There's a post about it working for a att user who did it. Can also just put into your rom.zip
In the same spot and flash rom and it will install.

I just can't wait for DAC support on AOSP. Albinoman887 had said it was possible a few weeks back so I'm eagerly awaiting support! As much as I love the DAC, I just can't give up the 35 hours of use per charge I get on AOSP with Thrasher's RR.

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Cant just install a system only app.
It needs to be put into system/priv-app/
And permissions set to match the other apps in
That directory. It works on att. There's a post about it working for a att user who did it. Can also just put into your rom.zip
In the same spot and flash rom and it will install.
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It works!! Thanks!

Squadala said:
Too bad the V20 doesn't do dsd
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I use usb audio player, it is $10 on play store this uses the dac if you toggle it on in quick settings,
This app plays dsd files.. If your flacs/MP3 are encoded at 48k or above, that is the resolution they are played back at.
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Artcrime said:
I use usb audio player, it is $10 on play store this uses the dac if you toggle it on in quick settings,
This app plays dsd files.. If your flacs/MP3 are encoded at 48k or above, that is the resolution they are played back at.
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USB audio player will play ALL files, however, it is transcoding them to 48khz PCM prior to outputting because it can only see the Qualcomm DAC not the ESS Sabre DAC even though it is toggled on.

@mlknez has answered questions extensively about the use of the DAC in the following thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/music-player-utilize-dac-t3491458

Squadala said:
Too bad the V20 doesn't do dsd
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Download HibyMusic on the Playstore.Plays DSD files

MajorChioHazard187 said:
Download HibyMusic on the Playstore.Plays DSD files
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I tried that app. It does indeed play DSD files, but like the rest of them, it only sees the Qualcomm DAC capabilities. It converts to PCM and decimates to 48khz. It will however see any EXTERNAL dac and play DSD files natively that way. Quickest way to check is to play a DSD file and if you get any notification sounds without the music going quiet, you are really hearing PCM. The SABRE DAC cannot do both DSD and PCM at the same time.

mlknez said:
I tried that app. It does indeed play DSD files, but like the rest of them, it only sees the Qualcomm DAC capabilities. It converts to PCM and decimates to 48khz. It will however see any EXTERNAL dac and play DSD files natively that way. Quickest way to check is to play a DSD file and if you get any notification sounds without the music going quiet, you are really hearing PCM. The SABRE DAC cannot do both DSD and PCM at the same time.
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Aaah thanks for the explanation:good: