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[Petition] Unlock SGH-I337 Bootloader

Petition to Samsung and At&t to unlock the bootloader. Please sign the petition, share and pass along.
http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
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linkin275 said:
Petition to Samsung and At&t to unlock the bootloader. Please sign the petition, share and pass along.
http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
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Why? Has this been successful with any other phone? I have never seen any evidence that AT&T cares. Samsung designed this way because AT&T wanted it this way, so petitioning Samsung won't matter. The only thing that will matter is not buying from AT&T (or Verizon) in the future.

alphadog00 said:
Why? Has this been successful with any other phone? I have never seen any evidence that AT&T cares. Samsung designed this way because AT&T wanted it this way, so petitioning Samsung won't matter. The only thing that will matter is not buying from AT&T (or Verizon) in the future.
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This. OP I feel your hope and frustration but it won't do much. Samsung just makes the device to how AT&T specifies and AT&T just really doesn't care. Like the one guy said, we just gotta stop buying the service and considering T-Mobile eased on the contracts and didn't lock there boot loader, it won't be that bad.
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yep not upgrading my s3.. just like I don't support apple with locked down
OS's.. I will not get locked phones from att and will switch when contract is up if they don't get their act together.
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I'd get a nexus if it had replaceable battery and an external sd card :/
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toxicpaulution said:
I'd get a nexus if it had replaceable battery and an external sd card :/
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This.

toxicpaulution said:
I'd get a nexus if it had replaceable battery and an external sd card :/
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Galaxy S4 Google Edition.
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Shammyh said:
Galaxy S4 Google Edition.
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$$$

Shammyh said:
Galaxy S4 Google Edition.
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When a 32gb nexus is $350 and the 32gb GS4 GE Will be around 700 dollars? I'd rather have spent it on two Nexus 4's but then again I'd have a stupid smartphone if I got the GE S4 since I'd have all the sensors and nothing to use them with. That sir is a waste.
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When a 32gb nexus is $350 and the 32gb GS4 GE Will be around 700 dollars? I'd rather have spent it on two Nexus 4's but then again I'd have a stupid smartphone if I got the GE S4 since I'd have all the sensors and nothing to use them with. That sir is a waste.
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And where is it official that the Google Edition will not include any functionality for all the new sensors, etc? You do release that Samsung has the source code right? And as one of Google's closest manufacturing partners.... It's still rather unlikely that they'd ship a $650 flagship phone with all its key features gimped... Right?
I mean, it totally could happen, but I find it rather unlikely that it'll be that much worse than a regular GS4. And before you go on a "it's all baked into TouchJizz therefore it can't work without it" style rant, that's simply not true. Again, Samsung designed the fricking phone, I'm pretty sure they can expose an intelligent interface to their fancy new sensors without the TW framework if they wanted.
Nothing is set in stone yet, but don't assume that these types of questions haven't been thought of, and possible solutions found, by the smart folks at Google and Samsung.
The $$$ on the other hand versus a Nexus 4, is a different question. Clearly the GS4 is a much better phone, but a 2x more expensive phone? Probably not.
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And where is it official that the Google Edition will not include any functionality for all the new sensors, etc? You do release that Samsung has the source code right? And as one of Google's closest manufacturing partners.... It's still rather unlikely that they'd ship a $650 flagship phone with all its key features gimped... Right?
I mean, it totally could happen, but I find it rather unlikely that it'll be that much worse than a regular GS4. And before you go on a "it's all baked into TouchJizz therefore it can't work without it" style rant, that's simply not true. Again, Samsung designed the fricking phone, I'm pretty sure they can expose an intelligent interface to their fancy new sensors without the TW framework if they wanted.
Nothing is set in stone yet, but don't assume that these types of questions haven't been thought of, and possible solutions found, by the smart folks at Google and Samsung.
The $$$ on the other hand versus a Nexus 4, is a different question. Clearly the GS4 is a much better phone, but a 2x more expensive phone? Probably not.
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Uhh because a lot of that stuff isn't built into aosp yet?? Same reason why they already said the One Google edition won't use the IR blaster. Its not that Samsung isn't capable of doing it, its that I doubt Google will let them being that its supposed to be stripped down vanilla android. Verizon messed with the galaxy nexus and are rumored to have been discluded from further nexuses because of it. We could also all shut up and stop speculating until it comes out
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Shammyh said:
And where is it official that the Google Edition will not include any functionality for all the new sensors, etc? You do release that Samsung has the source code right? And as one of Google's closest manufacturing partners.... It's still rather unlikely that they'd ship a $650 flagship phone with all its key features gimped... Right?
I mean, it totally could happen, but I find it rather unlikely that it'll be that much worse than a regular GS4. And before you go on a "it's all baked into TouchJizz therefore it can't work without it" style rant, that's simply not true. Again, Samsung designed the fricking phone, I'm pretty sure they can expose an intelligent interface to their fancy new sensors without the TW framework if they wanted.
Nothing is set in stone yet, but don't assume that these types of questions haven't been thought of, and possible solutions found, by the smart folks at Google and Samsung.
The $$$ on the other hand versus a Nexus 4, is a different question. Clearly the GS4 is a much better phone, but a 2x more expensive phone? Probably not.
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How much is a 16gb unlocked galaxy S4? 625$
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BV1NKCW/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
How much is 2 nexus 4's? 600$
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_4_8GB?id=nexus_4_8gb&hl=en
so technically you can get two cheaper for the price of one. And you speak as if I don't think Google could add those features in, I know they made the code. But I also know that they are going to follow the footsteps HTC did when they released their Google edition. Its the lines of Google edition to make it as bone stock as possible. As long as the OS runs with the camera and calling that's what matters to them. Yes maybe down the road Samsung will give an update for the sensors, but that will be down the road. Also the GE won't be the last of the line. When they ship the red,blue,brown, and purple they will be shipped with standard touchwiz.
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Only has 26 signatures, I don't think ATT or Samsung will even give this a 2nd thought or even make its way into a meeting agenda at the corporate level.

kelvinw273 said:
Only has 26 signatures, I don't think ATT or Samsung will even give this a 2nd thought or even make its way into a meeting agenda at the corporate level.
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It only has 26 signatures because most of us know that there is not sufficient user-base outrage for this practice to change.
The logic is as follows:
Group 1) I'd garner that 70-80% of all AT&T Galaxy S4 owners are unaware of what Linux is, let alone it's relation to their phone. So forget about bootloaders, and signing chains, and stuff like that. It's all greek to them. They just want to browse the web, visit Facebook, and send text messages. If it happens on a slim phone with a big pretty screen, then they're happy.
Group 2) There's maybe another 10-15% who actually understand the underlying concepts of Android/Linux etc, but who have no interest in modifying their phones. Those are techy or semi-techy people, who again, really just want to browse the web, use apps, and have a slim pretty phone.
Group 3) That leaves about 5-10% who actually desire to "modify" anything about their phone, and have any technical ability to do so.
Group 4) Out of that 5-10%, many of those people don't understand the intricacies of the boot process (or signature signing), and just "follow directions closely" to get what they want, and go home happy. That's probably the majority of visitors to XDA, which leaves....
Group 5) At most 5% of all AT&T Galaxy S4 users. These people actually understand how Android/Linux/boot chain process works, at least at a higher level. Don't ask them to read the source code, but they get the general idea.
Group 6) These are the people who actually understand and actually decide/agree to spend their time signing the petition.
Now to be fair, these numbers are as accurate as either the 2004 presidential election results or the number of secret NSA warrants issued every year. Aka, they're not very accurate. But I think you get the picture.
Even in the best case scenario, where you get 100% of Group 5 to sign, and god forbid, maybe even 100% of Group 4, that's still barely enough of a user base for AT&T to even consider your argument. And there's likely no reason they'd acquiesce anyway. While it's a big bummer to us modders, I'm sure there is a reason AT&T chose to go to the trouble of "locking the bootloader". In theory, it's a nice idea if you're selling to, I dunno, the government, or a big corporation... Your sales pitch is: "We use hardware in the phone to prevent modifying, so that when you go visit China, or wherever, we can 100% guarantee that no software bugs were installed in your phone. Secure bootloader means we can guarantee the entire process from boot up, to application loading, meaning your data is secure in our hands." Or some bullsh1t like that. Believe me, the reason at&t did it is for profit, but not to profit by screwing us modders over, to profit by engaging in a sales pitch to a select but profitable group of customers (who aren't you or me).
So long story short, it's a lost cause.

you have serious problems in math..
by the way, many people could be in the group that "just fallows directions closely" and still would like the bootloader to get unlocked (because someone with knowledge will take that advantage, create roms or whatever and share them with obviously, the "easy instructions to fallow"..

cotasa said:
you have serious problems in math..
by the way, many people could be in the group that "just fallows directions closely" and still would like the bootloader to get unlocked (because someone with knowledge will take that advantage, create roms or whatever and share them with obviously, the "easy instructions to fallow"..
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Lol, which is what I said... Granted in a rambling way, and duh, I pulled those numbers out of my butt. Which I also alluded to.
Either way, point stands that no petition is gonna change the situation. And that less than 30 people have signed said petition. That part ain't math, or subjective.
And as I also said, there's still the plane option...
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Even if there were 100K signatures, unless people buy a different product so that the carrier sees it hurting their revenue, they have no incentive.
How many people ditched AT&T to buy the t-mobile version? Not many. So an unlocked boot loader, even with cheaper data plans, is not enough to fuel consumer outrage.
Petitions are meaningless if there are no consequences. If t-mo ever gets better coverage, I may switch, but until then any threat to leave by me is empty. I think AT&T knows that.

I signed petition and I sent it to many friends via email to bring attention to the matter. Maybe someone can post in Facebook and any other sites?? Im also considering donation towards bounty for developers who unlock bootloader or alternative methods of adding recovery.

I think what will add weight to this issue is the fact that you cannot do a factory data reset and that KIES complains about the firmware.
Some people with legit issues contacting Samsung for support may be instructed to "power off unit - hold volume down and power on - blah blah blah" which gets you to the android screen with message "cannot boot into normal mode"
Samsung cannot even suggest to anyone to reapply firmware to fix issues at this time.
How do I know this? I called them because I get "Unfortunately, Music has stopped" error message when I use the default music player and asked for help. I was given several things to try which got nowhere and then they wanted to open a ticket to ship my phone in for repair, which I declined saying "I need my phone as it is my primary source of communication for home and work and cannot be without it for weeks". Then I got the survey at the end, to which I complimented the support effort but am beyond upset with Samsungs product as a simple thing like Music not working requires me to ship back the phone. $700 for a phone that "just about works" definitely will influence my next purchase.

Why is the s3 unlocked but not the s4? I had the Sony ion and decided to get a new phone, my contract isn't up for a year and some change so I just bought it out right off eBay for 310$ brand new. Its unlocked and when I had my s2 I had tasks AOKP running on it. So why lock the 4?
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[Q] Keep Android updated

Maybe this is a noob question, but is there a way to (manually) keep your phone up to date with the latest Android version?
And of course I mean a rooted phone. Does it depend on the used rom?
Thanks.

The app rom manager can check for you, or remember the version rom you run, go to the download site and see if the version number changed. What rom do you run?
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btb971 said:
The app rom manager can check for you, or remember the version rom you run, go to the download site and see if the version number changed. What rom do you run?
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I don't have a phone right now. I'm looking out for a new one. I just want to know how if I can install the latest Android version on any device.

Not every device, some devices can't handle the software. New devices yes.
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btb971 said:
Not every device, some devices can't handle the software. New devices yes.
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Is there a phone that you can recommend?

The nexus devices get their updates straight from Google, before they reach any other devices.
If you want top get every single update on time, get one of those.
If this answer helped you in any way, hit the thanks button.
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H3llwar said:
The nexus devices get their updates straight from Google, before they reach any other devices.
If you want top get every single update on time, get one of those.
If this answer helped you in any way, hit the thanks button.
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I know, but the Nexus is a bit too expensive . I bet cheap phones don't get updates that often.

TheOnlyRealChosenOne said:
I know, but the Nexus is a bit too expensive . I bet cheap phones don't get updates that often.
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That is true but if you are willing to buy a old flagship like the S2 then you can root it and get the latest android version. Plus it is cheap depending on where you buy it. Seeing as it was a flagship phone it still has quite a bit of following.
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WildfireDEV said:
That is true but if you are willing to buy a old flagship like the S2 then you can root it and get the latest android version. Plus it is cheap depending on where you buy it. Seeing as it was a flagship phone it still has quite a bit of following.
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Samsung phones are quite ugly and they don't have a very good battery life.
Just bought a second hand HTC One X for a bit more than 200 euro .
Thanks for you advice.

New Phones worth looking at

Im wondering what the phones people are looking at? Im only interested in unlocked boot loaders , dev phones , with that i See the OnePlus line , Motorola Moto X Pure , or any Nexus device ? Does anyone know of others and have you used them as well? Ill be honest my 1+1 is the best phone ive ever had, thr mic doesnt work , i think it was shorted , honna buy a mic i seen on amazon, but im really interested in new developer phones
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Nexus 6P
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What are the other phones with easily unlockable bootloader like nexus ,one plus ,moto & good development of roms ?

Nexus, oneplus and moto , theres a few others out there, the oneplus 3 looks really nice , not sure but 6gigs seems overkill , but who cares right? What i always crack up about is these guys who buy dev phones and dont use them , in other words they may as well have a samsung or other carrier model
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Oneplus 3..

Vintage144 said:
Nexus, oneplus and moto , theres a few others out there, the oneplus 3 looks really nice , not sure but 6gigs seems overkill , but who cares right? What i always crack up about is these guys who buy dev phones and dont use them , in other words they may as well have a samsung or other carrier model
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Those are the main brands and its not that surprising. The real reason that's happening more nowadays is dev phones are becoming more mainstream as they push for higher sales from the general public and majority of people aren't concerned with modding and tinkering with their phones.
They want to use a phone with stock software and get timely updates, as well as if they get bored they can unlock their phones without voiding warranty and flash custom software. There's a major increase in noobs in threads who mess up their phone or can't do basic things and ask repetitive questions (all info is available in guides in the respective forums) . It's become a big mess in all forums. Can't imagine how bad it would be if they all started using custom ROMs

i agree , im constantly reading , im in the nexus 6p forum going nuts , it was relatively easy to unlock the 1+1 bl and yet for a nexus device it seems to be a chore already , not sure why , could be drivers in win 10 or something else , not sure yet

Note 7 and it's fate

Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?

Critical Detox said:
Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?
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All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
Good luck.
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I wonder how pricy will the Note 7 be.
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Critical Detox said:
Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?
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I think chances are zero
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My main concern for it is im a huge Viper supporter, and If can't root and get Viper on that device....That device is dead to me. I'm hoping some miracle comes through and we get the Samsung device we all want AND an unlocked bootloader.
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Misterjunky said:
All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
Good luck.
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Root has been achieved for the s7 and edge on ATT and Tmobile. May want to word your answers in such a way that they dont seem like absolutes.
Also every international model of every phone comes sim unlocked. Thats why there is a category for unlocked phones.
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I saw that a few days ago, maybe In due time they'll get the bootloader unlocked too.
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pcriz said:
Root has been achieved for the s7 and edge on ATT and Tmobile. May want to word your answers in such a way that they dont seem like absolutes.
Also every international model of every phone comes sim unlocked. Thats why there is a category for unlocked phones.
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That's awesome news! Do you know if they posted the root procedures for Tmobile S7 on XDA? I haven't seen them yet.

tribleten said:
That's awesome news! Do you know if they posted the root procedures for Tmobile S7 on XDA? I haven't seen them yet.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragons7variantsrooted-blog-19194.php

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http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragons7variantsrooted-blog-19194.php
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Oh ok...seems like a few people are having issues with that method (as most new root methods), but it's definitely a start in the right direction.

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Oh ok...seems like a few people are having issues with that method (as most new root methods), but it's definitely a start in the right direction.
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I've seen both sides on it, some got issues and some are reporting that everything is okay. Another interesting aspect is people reporting this doesnt trip knox, while being rooted samsung pay doesnt work but when they revert knox still shows 0x0.

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I've seen both sides on it, some got issues and some are reporting that everything is okay. Another interesting aspect is people reporting this doesnt trip knox, while being rooted samsung pay doesnt work but when they revert knox still shows 0x0.
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They my understanding is knox remains 0x0 because it uses a repair kernel
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Crazy how there is not much talk about the Note 7 with it only about 2 weeks away. I am really mixed about getting it still since I know it is going to be locked. The only thing that is really holding me back at this point is not being able to use Viper. There are a couple of other things that would be nice to still be able to do but those aren't major. Android has come a long way and the need for a custom rom just isn't what it used to be. I really like the Note line and prefer to stay with it so I may just bit the bullet and go without root. Whether I get it at launch will also depend on the special offers they are giving out. I got the Year of Netflix and free VR with the S7 Edge before I returned it so if they have a simular offer, I will probably jump on it.

chipworkz said:
Crazy how there is not much talk about the Note 7 with it only about 2 weeks away. I am really mixed about getting it still since I know it is going to be locked. The only thing that is really holding me back at this point is not being able to use Viper. There are a couple of other things that would be nice to still be able to do but those aren't major. Android has come a long way and the need for a custom rom just isn't what it used to be. I really like the Note line and prefer to stay with it so I may just bit the bullet and go without root. Whether I get it at launch will also depend on the special offers they are giving out. I got the Year of Netflix and free VR with the S7 Edge before I returned it so if they have a simular offer, I will probably jump on it.
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I was just thinking this same thing...i own my note 5 outright so i may just trade it in if there's a good deal...progress has been made with root on the s7's so I'm hopeful similar leaps are made...nonetheless, i have to say, my girls note 5 is bone stock unrooted and with few exceptions there's little that can't be done...for her nothing, and for me, well, I'm just finally learning to develop on Linux so i definitely want to keep SOME rootable device in my stable as well, but that's might end up meaning a second device (next nexus?) and swapping my sim around smh...it's just that usb3.0, ip68, 256gb storage and 6gb ram PLUS a true edge screen is almost too much to resist, root or not, plus there's always samsung pay while it's still 0x0...i see myself getting it, only question is when and will i also spent flagship money on a second device (OP3? nexus? Htc?- pretty much all are sd820...) until a good root method or unlocked bootloader becomes a reality....
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Rx8Driver said:
I was just thinking this same thing...i own my note 5 outright so i may just trade it in if there's a good deal...
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This is what will break me, some awesome deal with two phones, VR, and what not.
Probably gonna go with that blue if i do buy.
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I'm always with 2 phones, 1 is usually a nexus device, the note series have been my go to though. I'll likely get the N7 and do what I can do to it with in the confines of no super user. Nexus devices are so cheap, you can always pick up one for around $200, excluding the 6p. The devs here on XDA are top notch, so I'm always confident they'll come up with something.
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I'm always with 2 phones, 1 is usually a nexus device, the note series have been my go to though. I'll likely get the N7 and do what I can do to it with in the confines of no super user. Nexus devices are so cheap, you can always pick up one for around $200, excluding the 6p. The devs here on XDA are top notch, so I'm always confident they'll come up with something.
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Well a locked bootloader is a locked bootloader in most cases. The s7 exploit is really just a Samsung repair kernel that was leaked that's really not fit for prime time, unfortunately...
And even that is still limited in no custom recovery or roms, just stock debloat, xposed, viper/etc...
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it's even worse now lol
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...oid-7-0-wont-let-phone-boot-software-corrupt/
i will no longer buying any samsung phones. my note 5 has been on the top for 2 months now
no good roms to try
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Misterjunky said:
All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
Good luck.
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sadly, you can't have aosp because of xynos therefore useless to me

TheUndertaker21 said:
it's even worse now lol
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...oid-7-0-wont-let-phone-boot-software-corrupt/
i will no longer buying any samsung phones. my note 5 has been on the top for 2 months now
no good roms to try
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sadly, you can't have aosp because of xynos therefore useless to me
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I wouldn't say can't, it can in fact happen and has. It just isn't easy. There are snapdragon devices that never got stable CM builds. Just in the case with the exynos, the odds aren't in their favor.

If I do get the Note 7, which I probably will, it will be with the knowledge that if most likely will never be unlocked. I have been running pure stock and not even rooted for a couple weeks now to see how unrooted life is. I have been rooted and running a custom rom for several years now. Like I said before, there are some cool features in custom roms but the need for them just isn't what it used to be. The only thing I am truly missing is Viper. So for me it comes down to the simple question of which is more important. What is more important, all of the new features of the new phone or the ability to use Viper.
I swore I wouldn't buy a locked phone and would move to the Nexus line but based on the rumors of the next Nexus phones, I am not thrilled with them. I just don't see anything that I would rather move to over the Note 7 based on what we know so far. That along with the fact that I am on the original Jump program so without needing to buy the phone outright, I need to pick from T-Mobiles selections.
A lot of the reasons to have root can be accomplished with apps so life without root isn't a huge deal for me anymore. I just wish there was a Viper alternative that can be used without root. Anyone know of one?

What upcoming new phones will have root available?

I am just looking for a new phone that can be rooted. I currently have the Samsung Galaxy s6 so I am looking for a new phone that be rooted

Any specific budget/company in mind.And do tell where do you stay now so can give better suggestions.
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irony799 said:
I am just looking for a new phone that can be rooted. I currently have the Samsung Galaxy s6 so I am looking for a new phone that be rooted
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That can't be answered for upcoming devices that haven't been released to the market yet, it can be answered for devices that are currently on the market though.
I can certainly tell you that all new Nexus devices(pixel devices now) are always rootable as soon as they hit the market and they usually have plenty of custom development available and are easy to modify and recover. A Google Nexus/Pixel device is always a good choice.
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Cruzy12100 said:
Any specific budget/company in mind.And do tell where do you stay now so can give better suggestions.
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Well I am using AT&T. I also currently have a Samsung Galaxy s6 active

Any phone from a popular manufacturer (samsung,google,Lenovo,Motorola) generally have a very healthy community of modders which release the exploits in order to root such phones.so a phone from either of these manufacturers is a good bet if you want to root your phone.
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Cruzy12100 said:
Any phone from a popular manufacturer (samsung,google,Lenovo,Motorola) generally have a very healthy community of modders which release the exploits in order to root such phones.so a phone from either of these manufacturers is a good bet if you want to root your phone.
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I don't think AT&T have Google phones. Are the one plus phones able to root?

irony799 said:
I don't think AT&T have Google phones. Are the one plus phones able to root?
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Google phones can be unlocked and used on any network.
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Droidriven said:
Google phones can be unlocked and used on any network.
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I wanna pay monthly
So I probably can't buy that

irony799 said:
I wanna pay monthly
So I probably can't buy that
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AT&T probably offers Google phones, try finding a Google Pixel or one of the recent Google Nexus phones, AT&T should have them.
Besides, you can get the google phones directly from the Google store on payment plan, go to the Google store or Best Buy.
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Droidriven said:
AT&T probably offers Google phones, try finding a Google Pixel or one of the recent Google Nexus phones, AT&T should have them.
Besides, you can get the google phones directly from the Google store on payment plan, go to the Google store or Best Buy.
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I see a site called project fi

irony799 said:
I see a site called project fi
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Yeah, that's a service provided by google that uses multiple networks including your home WiFi to serve your activated project fi device no matter where you are and syncs your devices and your google account including your PC if you're signed into google on it. Base fee of $20 plus your data, you pay before you use the data and any left over is reimbursed to your payment account where you can cash it in or apply it to the next month.
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Droidriven said:
Yeah, that's a service provided by google that uses multiple networks including your home WiFi to serve your activated project fi device no matter where you are and syncs your devices and your google account including your PC if you're signed into google on it. Base fee of $20 plus your data, you pay before you use the data and any left over is reimbursed to your payment account where you can cash it in or apply it to the next month.
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do you know what kind of credit is required to finance for a Google phone?

irony799 said:
I don't think AT&T have Google phones. Are the one plus phones able to root?
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As far as I know,support for the one plus phones is quite huge so yeah,they can be roooted easily.
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irony799 said:
I don't think AT&T have Google phones. Are the one plus phones able to root?
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You can buy one plus devices. It can be rooted and have great custom roms support on XDA or other forums.

Ashwinrg said:
You can buy one plus devices. It can be rooted and have great custom roms support on XDA or other forums.
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is there any other phones besides Google phones and one plus phones that have great rooting support? How about Iphones or the new Samsung Galaxy s8 or the lg phones?

irony799 said:
is there any other phones besides Google phones and one plus phones that have great rooting support? How about Iphones or the new Samsung Galaxy s8 or the lg phones?
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iPhone isn't worth having, Samsung flagship devices usually have root and lots of support as long as they don't have a locked bootloader(most newer models of Samsung devices have locked bootloader that can't be unlocked), high end LG devices usually have good support also, the mid range and low range LG devices typically don't get a lot of support.
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All of the newer Sammy devices will be locked down. I dont see them reverting that due to their Samsung Pay.
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Cruzy12100 said:
As far as I know,support for the one plus phones is quite huge so yeah,they can be roooted easily.
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do you know the credit requirements for financing Google phones?

irony799 said:
do you know the credit requirements for financing Google phones?
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No clue. But I myself wouldn't own a phone from Google.

Droidriven said:
Yeah, that's a service provided by google that uses multiple networks including your home WiFi to serve your activated project fi device no matter where you are and syncs your devices and your google account including your PC if you're signed into google on it. Base fee of $20 plus your data, you pay before you use the data and any left over is reimbursed to your payment account where you can cash it in or apply it to the next month.
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umm sorry for yhe late reply. I couldn't finance a google phone so is there any other phone like a lg that have root support?