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What charger should I use? It comes with the wire but no adapter. What voltage should the adapter be as I do not want to ruin the battery of the Moto G.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 and HTC One X charger.
Any USB charger will be fine, they're all 5v. The cheaper ones will have a low mAh though.
Both your Samsung and HTC ones are suitable.
No charger? thats a bummer..
it means that charging time would be varied depending of the source. Not a wise move here by Motorola since people might buy cheap charger and ruined the user experience. Especially when they're targeting 1st time smartphone consumer in less develop country
hmm..
It's going to get more and more common as the world is flooded with USB chargers.
Well not really true... Here in germany every shop adds the adapter to the package themselves. Most of them added a 1000mA one, because it doesnt ruin the battery that fast. You can see that in pretty much every unboxing video. But in fact we e.g already got like 5-6 chargers in our households, so what...
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As it would be my first smartphone, I'm looking into the wall plugs. I've found one in my local shop for ~10 euros. It's from Philips, with 5V/10,5W/2,1A and has two USB sockets (that's why it's 2 amps).
My question is, as I've no experience with smartphones, how long would it take to charge from 0 to 100?
With that charger it would take roughly 2 hours to charge your device with 2075 mAh battery.
The Brazilian 16gb dual chip edition comes with a charger.
duhprest said:
What charger should I use? It comes with the wire but no adapter. What voltage should the adapter be as I do not want to ruin the battery of the Moto G.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 and HTC One X charger.
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LOL... I was surprised as well, when got the box (a tiny package similar to iPhone) and found only phone and USB cable inside.
But don't worry, any charger with 1A will do the job, so your chargers from S2/HOX will be OK.
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Well not really true... Here in germany every shop adds the adapter to the package themselves. Most of them added a 1000mA one, because it doesnt ruin the battery that fast. You can see that in pretty much every unboxing video. But in fact we e.g already got like 5-6 chargers in our households, so what...
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That's nice attitude towards customers...
I am using the old HTC charger (1A),which came with HTC Diamond (has a nice glowing HTC logo ) and its OK. It charges battery fully within 100 minutes when phone is OFF.
Will try also 400mA (Alcatel) to see what's the difference.
I use only branded chargers, as had issues with some cheap aftermarket chargers in the past.
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Most of them added a 1000mA one, because it doesnt ruin the battery that fast.
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That's just silly, PM chips actually limit your charging current. So 2000mA charger won't do you any harm and would come in handy while charging pads.
levizx said:
That's just silly, PM chips actually limit your charging current. So 2000mA charger won't do you any harm and would come handy while charging pads.
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It may depends on phone make/model.
I've used few times 2A charger from Samsung Note 2 and phone/battery become hot and battery didn't lasted long... Also during charge it had hissing sound, so back to 1A chargers and all OK.
I think lower output does charge battery longer, but battery last longer as well...
Will get back when charge with 400mA charger (probably on Tuesday or Wednesday )
aspot72 said:
It may depends on phone make/model.
I've used few times 2A charger from Samsung Note 2 and phone/battery become hot and battery didn't lasted long... Also during charge it had hissing sound, so back to 1A chargers and all OK.
I think lower output does charge battery longer, but battery last longer as well...
Will get back when charge with 400mA charger (probably on Tuesday or Wednesday )
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I guess that could happen with bad pm chips. But I've never seen this behavier on any Moto phones so far.
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I guess that could happen with bad pm chips. But I've never seen this behavier on any Moto phones so far.
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I can't comment on this as my last Motorola was the StarTAC 130 some 15 years ago
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I can't comment on this as my last Motorola was the StarTAC 130 some 15 years ago
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I think with pretty much with every Snapdragon chip you get the bundled PM chip, and the last bad experience I had with a Snapdragon was with 8225/q and that was just inaccurate battery reading. I would think anything newer would handle 2a charger just fine.
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I think with pretty much with every Snapdragon chip you get the bundled PM chip, and the last bad experience I had with a Snapdragon was with 8225/q and that was just inaccurate battery reading. I would think anything newer would handle 2a charger just fine.
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Well, thanks to MotoG's superb battery back up I don't mind what charger and how long does it takes.Now I need to charge only twice a week, unlike with my previous devices, as they needed every 2nd day. Sticking with my favorite HTC 1A charger
Long-term reduction in battery capacity using high amperage charger
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That's just silly, PM chips actually limit your charging current. So 2000mA charger won't do you any harm and would come in handy while charging pads.
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I only partly agree with you here. Although the Moto G will restrict charging to a maximum of 1500mA, so using a 2A charger will not cause any direct damage to the phone circuitry or immediate damage to the battery; using a higher amperage, fast 2A charger to charge at 1500mA over time will likely cause more reduction in battery capacity. See this XDA post for my logic in coming to this conclusion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2564158
UPDATE and CORRECTION:
I have more authoritative information directly from Battery University that changes the conclusion I draw above based on my effort to extrapolate from the Battery University website article.
The extrapolation I did in the post listed above was based on the additional loss of battery capacity cited when going from a 1C to 2C charging rate. But according to direct communication from Battery University, when charging at a rate below .7C there should be no measurable improvement to capacity by using slower charging rates. Charging above .7C would still be expected to add more stress to Lithium Ion Polymer batteries and likely add to long-term reduction of capacity.
So, what this means for the Moto G and Nexus 5 is that there should be no measurable difference between charging with 2A, 1.2A, 1A, or 850mA chargers as far as effect on long-term battery capacity goes. Both the Moto G and Nexus 5 are supposed to automatically restrict the charge rate at 1500mA even when using a faster charger, which is just at or below .7C for both phones. So, as long as the charger dependably keeps to 5V, a higher amperage 2A charger will be faster but pose no problem to long-term capacity.
Hello.
Can someone explain me how on earth does fart charging works on this device?
I've tried the included cable and charger, third party chargers and i don't see any fast charging going on?!? or any indication on screen that it's happening.
I've read somewhere that you need a special cable to use with the included charger (?!?!) is this true? where do you get this cable?
Phone is amazing but the charging part is really is really weird if you ask me.
Thanks.
J.
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Hello.
Can someone explain me how on earth does fart charging works on this device?
I've tried the included cable and charger, third party chargers and i don't see any fast charging going on?!? or any indication on screen that it's happening.
I've read somewhere that you need a special cable to use with the included charger (?!?!) is this true? where do you get this cable?
Phone is amazing but the charging part is really is really weird if you ask me.
Thanks.
J.
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it sharges in an hour and half with me
it is quite fast
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it sharges in an hour and half with me
it is quite fast
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do you get any message saying fast charging?
it doesnt show any fast charging message, so i wouldnt rely on such a message to make sure its working. just use the included cable and charger and ull be fine it takes about 2.5 hours to charge from 0-100% via fastcharge
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Yeah ...That's why I asked. I plugged a meter to the charger and never saw it go more than 5v 2a.
I think it needs a special cable for the 9v but I can't find any info.
2.5h is not fast charge. My old s6 edge plus used to take around 70-80 m from 5-100% if if you put the remaining 1000mah shouldn't take that long lol
Mean in 30 min 40% recharge . My phone 0 -100% charged in 2:00
trust me, it is fast charge
calculate for yourself: original huawei charger is rated at 9V 2A, thats 18W total. 2A is 2000 mA. mate 8 battery is 4000 mAh.
best case scenario: 4000 mAh / 2000 mA = 2h
now add to that the extra time it needs to charge from 85-100%, because at 85% it automatically slows down charging to prolong the health of the battery and youre at the 2.5h FAST CHARGING time
also, i dont believe for a SECOND that the S6 edge+ charged that fast in your case. check this review: http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-plus-review-battery-life-and-verdict-page-6
"Fast charging comes as standard with the S6 Edge+ and it works. It charged from 0 to 100% in just 1 hour 45 minutes. Samsung claims wireless charging has also been improved – it’s 27% faster on the Edge+ compared to the normal S6 and S6 Edge."
so thats 105 minutes for 3000 mAh. add to that 33.3% to get to 4000 mAh and u get a total charging time of..... 140 minutes. which is 2 hours and 20 minutes
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trust me, it is fast charge
calculate for yourself: original huawei charger is rated at 9V 2A, thats 18W total. 2A is 2000 mA. mate 8 battery is 4000 mAh.
best case scenario: 4000 mAh / 2000 mA = 2h
now add to that the extra time it needs to charge from 85-100%, because at 85% it automatically slows down charging to prolong the health of the battery and youre at the 2.5h FAST CHARGING time
also, i dont believe for a SECOND that the S6 edge+ charged that fast in your case. check this review: http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-plus-review-battery-life-and-verdict-page-6
"Fast charging comes as standard with the S6 Edge+ and it works. It charged from 0 to 100% in just 1 hour 45 minutes. Samsung claims wireless charging has also been improved – it’s 27% faster on the Edge+ compared to the normal S6 and S6 Edge."
so thats 105 minutes for 3000 mAh. add to that 33.3% to get to 4000 mAh and u get a total charging time of..... 140 minutes. which is 2 hours and 20 minutes
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I will make a full test from 0 to 100. I only charged from 40 to 100 and it took way more than 2 hours... that's why i asked if any special cable was needed. And as i told i mesured the charging rate coming out of the charger and never passed the 5V.
As for non Believing. It's REALLY pisses me off when people write that crap. Why would I lie? what would i gain from it? I sold the phone because i wasn't happy with it.... On the contrary and in case you don't know most sites like the ones you post are PAID to give positive reviews.
I checked with including charger and cable and the app Ampére and it charged with 2800mah. So, in ideaal situation it means a charging time of a proximity 1h and 26min. That means "fast charging". At least in my opinion. ?
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I will make a full test from 0 to 100. I only charged from 40 to 100 and it took way more than 2 hours... that's why i asked if any special cable was needed. And as i told i mesured the charging rate coming out of the charger and never passed the 5V.
As for non Believing. It's REALLY pisses me off when people write that crap. Why would I lie? what would i gain from it? I sold the phone because i wasn't happy with it.... On the contrary and in case you don't know most sites like the ones you post are PAID to give positive reviews.
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that doesnt make sense what ure saying because in this case the site actually stated a HIGHER amount of minutes that it would take the s6 edge plus to fully charge from 0-100% so what now, theyre getting paid to write negative reviews as well?
also, no, ure not "gaining" anything from that, but people tend to exaggerate a lot, do a quick "drive by" in a thread and post random statements based on non-correctly remembered experiences and this is exactly how false statements are converted into "truths / facts". read my post and tell me where exactly i listed anything wrong. check various reviews on the mate 8, they all stare the same thing: about 2.5h for a full charge, give or take 10-20 min. it also compares perfectly with the charging time of the s6 edge+ in terms of mAh/min, and in fact these two phones are indeed VERY close, mate 8 being at 49mAh/min and the s6 series at around 50-52, so just marginally faster... which, again, is also represented by the numbers i listed in my post before
and again: there is NO extra message or notification stating ure in fast charge mode on the mate 8, it just does its job, thats it!
if ure getting slower charging rates / voltages, make sure to use the original charger and original cable and both with a proper high voltage power outlet.
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I noticed the fast charging only really kicks in if you leave your phone alone. But if you keep using it while it's charging, it just charges at regular speed. But the moment I put the phone down and screen of for 5 minutes, it quick charges like crazy
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I noticed the fast charging only really kicks in if you leave your phone alone. But if you keep using it while it's charging, it just charges at regular speed. But the moment I put the phone down and screen of for 5 minutes, it quick charges like crazy
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Yes im checked It is true
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lucky then that i always leave my phone alone when its charging
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I noticed the fast charging only really kicks in if you leave your phone alone. But if you keep using it while it's charging, it just charges at regular speed. But the moment I put the phone down and screen of for 5 minutes, it quick charges like crazy
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I hadn't tested this. After i turn off my phone, a few minutes later it jumps to 9V 2A on my meter. If you turn it back on it goes down to 5V 1A. Must be a phone security thing, which is kinda cool in a way if you ask me.
Btw Apparently quick charge works with non original chargers too. I have a Cheotech 60W 6 port usb with 2 Quick charge ports (which supports 9V 2A/ 12V 1.5A) and it works Using the original cable though.
Don't use fast charging unless you really need it.
Always fast charging overnite (when you're not actually using the phone for many hours) can only shorten your battery longevity more quickly then with normal charging.
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I hadn't tested this. After i turn off my phone, a few minutes later it jumps to 9V 2A on my meter. If you turn it back on it goes down to 5V 1A. Must be a phone security thing, which is kinda cool in a way if you ask me.
Btw Apparently quick charge works with non original chargers too. I have a Cheotech 60W 6 port usb with 2 Quick charge ports (which supports 9V 2A/ 12V 1.5A) and it works Using the original cable though.
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is there option somewhere to turn it off? plz
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Don't use fast charging unless you really need it.
Always fast charging overnite (when you're not actually using the phone for many hours) can only shorten your battery longevity more quickly then with normal charging.
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is there option somewhere to turn it off?
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When I'm going to recharge for many hours overnite I use a 1A travel charger.
i guess thats the best way to restrict charging amperage although it shouldnt hurt the battery so much, considering that the amperage drops off sharply once level reaches 85% and above...
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Charging a phone with a lower rated current, will cause the charger to "try and match" the current requested.
Amps work in that manner, the device determines the draw. For example, using a 5v 5a (theoretical device) on a 5v 1a device will likely melt your adapter / screw up your phone from improper voltages.
In that case, an adapter may heat up, or if its smart enough (unlikely), it will turn off periodically. Most of the time, it will have an unstable voltage (undervolting) which is how some phones are able to detect an improper charger is used. This is bad for your battery.
I do not recommend charging with a charger that isn't rated for it. This is widely documented.
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Xiaomi Redmi 3s can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Charging speed isn't that great. But its okay considering that this phone sports a large 4100 mAh battery.
5/10. Battery capacity is large and there's no fast charging, so it sucks.
I dont know why but even though lot of people of complained that it takes a lot of time , Mine charges from 10% to 95% in under 2 hours which is great
Most people that complain have bad cable. For what I see, Xiaomi uses some bad cables in India. My phone was bought from China and it charges with 1800mAh, which is great since charger is 2000mA and system consumes a little.
Use Ampere app and measure the rate of charge. If it is under 1000mAh you have something wrong with charger/cable.
Fast charging should have been enabled
Average
Fast charge (2A) is present. Charge rate up to 1800mAh, what is good.
Better if quick charge (QC) was enabled.
My charge rate up to 1650 mAh.
mine upto 1960 mAh
Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 IS supported.
After connecting the phone to Samsung's "Adaptive Fast Charge" charger results in average 9V and 1.5A charging after negotiation which takes around 5 seconds.
it is ok, I get up to 1800 mAh
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Fast charge (2A) is present. Charge rate up to 1800mAh, what is good.
Better if quick charge (QC) was enabled.
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It supports QC 3.0 but to enable it, you'll have to flash a suitable custom kernel. In my opinion, stick with the default fast charging system because putting too much stress on your phone's CPU can cause overheating issues and no doubt shorten your phone's battery life.
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5/10. Battery capacity is large and there's no fast charging, so it sucks.
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Use Mi 9v 2A charger problem solving
Don't pass 3amp ur land will fry. I did and mine battery fu*** up. Use qc2.0 not 3.0 qc2.0 recommended.
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5/10. Battery capacity is large and there's no fast charging, so it sucks.
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it supports quick charge 2.0 use a quick charge supported charger to get the result and make sure the rom you are using support quick charge too
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Sushantdk10 said:
Don't pass 3amp ur land will fry. I did and mine battery fu*** up. Use qc2.0 not 3.0 qc2.0 recommended.
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I use a quick charger 3 (adaptive) it communicates to the device and changes the amp and voltage according to the device so it doesn't fry the mobile
T6
which rom support QC2.0
Does this model support power delivery like the Pro model? If so has anyone tested how many watts it pulls from a power delivery charger? Oneplus states the pro model supports 5V/3A power delivery which I believe is 15watts.
Pro 30W
Non Pro 20W
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Pro 30W
Non Pro 20W
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These specs are for Oneplus's proprietary warp charging which is separate from the power delivery standard.
Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
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Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
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you are uninformed. in addition to Warp, the 7p supports PD upto 3a with screen off. Android police confirmed this in their review.
OP is asking if 7 also supports this.
I have not measured charging speeds, etc. but I have a bunch of official Google PD bricks here for my 2XL and my OP7 charges just as fast, if not faster, than my Pixel. Just anecdotal but I was happy with charging performance.
I've charged my OnePlus 7 from 14% to 100% in about 1h and 15min. I call that really fast charging.
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I've charged my OnePlus 7 from 14% to 100% in about 1h and 15min. I call that really fast charging.
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With the charger that came with the phone or a different charger?
The included charger, it's the 20W one.
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Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
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The included charger, it's the 20W one.
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Do you know what this thread is about?
Everyone knows Dash 20W is super fast. We're asking about USB PD.
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Do you know what this thread is about?
Everyone knows Dash 20W is super fast. We're asking about USB PD.
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Like I sad, it will be 1A, maybe for the first 50% 1.5A, because with 3A a lot will not pay the extra bucks for Dash charger.
Pro: 5V/6A - 3A
Non-Pro: 5V/4A - 3A? No way... with luck maybe 2A
I will get my OP7 next week and I can test it but I'm sure you will get up to 1.5A
I've charged it with a power bank from Huawei, with fast charge and it charged pretty quick. I haven't look at the time it took, but next time I will.
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Like I sad, it will be 1A, maybe for the first 50% 1.5A, because with 3A a lot will not pay the extra bucks for Dash charger.
Pro: 5V/6A - 3A
Non-Pro: 5V/4A - 3A? No way... with luck maybe 2A
I will get my OP7 next week and I can test it but I'm sure you will get up to 1.5A
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So you are saying:
OP7 Pro supports USB 3.1, USB PD protocol to 3A, and Warp-protocol to 6A
OP7 supports USB 3.1, Dash-protocol to 4A, but NOT USB-PD?
Please do test it- to confirm, you must have 1. screen off 2. a USB power meter that can measure the draw (or an app that can record the draw while the screen is off- viewing current while in app will not work since it only works with screen off.
There seems to be a lot of people who don't understand what USB-PD is. Of course, if you use a normal USB charger that is neither Dash/Warp nor USB PD, it will not draw more than 1.5A.
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I've charged it with a power bank from Huawei, with fast charge and it charged pretty quick. I haven't look at the time it took, but next time I will.
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You can use a app, which will tell you how fast it charge.
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There seems to be a lot of people who don't understand what USB-PD is. Of course, if you use a normal USB charger that is neither Dash/Warp nor USB PD, it will not draw more than 1.5A.
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Dude, USB-PD means USB Power Delivery. How somebody can not understand what this mean?
Oppo slow it down to sell VOOC/Dash charger (and cable) in the kernel, like on the OnePlus devices before.
When the OP7 support 3A, with 5V, you will get 15W, which is almost QC 3.0, so you can get 5 charger and any cable you want for the same price as a Dash charger. There is no way!
So I've tried today charging with my power bank, a HUAWEI 10000mAh QuickCharge power bank, from 1% to 100% and it took about 2h and 30min. From 15% I think it would take about 2h to charge. Power bank fast charging is rated at 9V 2A 18W. With Ampere it was showing to chager at about 1.3-1.4A. I would say it's pretty ok, it's not as fast as with the original charger, but it's ok.
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So I've tried today charging with my power bank, a HUAWEI 10000mAh QuickCharge power bank, from 1% to 100% and it took about 2h and 30min. From 15% I think it would take about 2h to charge. Power bank fast charging is rated at 9V 2A 18W. With Ampere it was showing to chager at about 1.3-1.4A. I would say it's pretty ok, it's not as fast as with the original charger, but it's ok.
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That is not a USB-PD bank. It'll charge at 1.5A tops with that. Our phones can't do QuickCharge.
Do the same test if you can, but use a USB-PD charger and screen off.
This thread is about getting a confirmation that it can regulate with USB-PD upto 3A when the screen is off. Our phones will not support QuickCharge or any other proprietary protocol.
We know It does Dash/Warp, regular USB upto 1.5A, and now we want to know if it does USB PD.
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So I caved and finally tested it myself.
Yes, the regular OnePlus 7 does support USB-PD 5v upto 3A with the screen off. With the screen on, I could get 1.94A
I used an Essential PH-1 included charger, which is a USB-PD charger that can do 5V and 9V upto 3A. I went from 60% to 70% in 8 minutes, and used the logkit to capture the current. While on, I was getting a consistent 1.94A, which is higher than a regular USB charger which usually peaks around 1.4-1.5A. With the screen off, I kept the logkit going, and you can see the average is well above 2A (again, this is average- I had the screen on for a while before an after, which is why the average isn't 3A). It's also worth noting this was only from 60-70%.
So yes, like the OP7 Pro, the OP7 also supports USB-PD up to 3A with the screen off, and upto 2A with the screen on, much faster than a regular USB Charge, and ALMOST on-par with Dash Charging with screen off.
So hopefully this puts this thread to rest, and you can feel confident buying a USB-PD brick, and those that doubted it have learned that OnePlus didn't skimp on the USB controller on the regular OP7.
From the graph, you can see the flat line at -3 when the screen was off, and how it bounces "up" to -1.7 when it's on.
Can confirm, used my USB PD charger while away last week. Charge from 5ish% to full was around 2 hours. Much quicker than the old standard Microsoft USB C charger I use at home.
Charge time with PD was similar to that with my old mate 20 pro which showed 'fast charging' to indicate PD being used.
I wonder why I am not getting the promised charging speed of 50w?
With the screen off I am getting 26.99w at most.
With the screen on I am getting around 12w.
I charged my fone at around 35%. I have a hunch the 50w will only kick in from 0% up to a certain percentage.
Anybody here observed similar results?
50 w is just for the beginning, when your battery is almost 0%.
The charger is not 50W flat. The charging power will change depending on the battery charge.
josuema said:
50 w is just for the beginning, when your battery is almost 0%.
The charger is not 50W flat. The charging power will change depending on the battery charge.
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That is what I was thinking as well. Will do a test at 0% to confirm.
Tested again charging from 4%. Still sitting at 25watts. But i was able to get a full charge in 53 minutes.
Mi 10 pro is 50
Mi 10 non pro is 30
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badaas said:
Mi 10 pro is 50
Mi 10 non pro is 30
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I know. Mine is Mi10 Pro and i'm getting only 25w max.
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But i was able to get a full charge in 53 minutes.
I know. Mine is Mi10 Pro and i'm getting only 25w max.
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And? this is an issue? 53 minutes a full charge, and your still claiming on numbers?
Who the hell care about a 25w charge if you doesnt need longer than 53minutes? Where the hell is the issue?
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And? this is an issue? 53 minutes a full charge, and your still claiming on numbers?
Who the hell care about a 25w charge if you doesnt need longer than 53minutes? Where the hell is the issue?
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I understand your point
but if someone came from 30W charge phone to 50W charge phone
he will expect it to be faster at least, not slower
25W is very good but it is not 50W
I think he is asking to see is it SW bug or HW problem or just a big lie from Xiaomi about how much we should get in real world
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Tested again charging from 4%. Still sitting at 25watts. But i was able to get a full charge in 53 minutes.
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is the charger 50W or only 30
because from my understanding the global charger is only 30W
also, can you test without USB tester and use the app ampere
abogrhen said:
I understand your point
but if someone came from 30W charge phone to 50W charge phone
he will expect it to be faster at least, not slower
25W is very good but it is not 50W
I think he is asking to see is it SW bug or HW problem or just a big lie from Xiaomi about how much we should get in real world
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is the charger 50W or only 30
because from my understanding the global charger is only 30W
also, can you test without USB tester and use the app ampere
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Okay, i had both phones, a OP 8pro (30w charge) and my new Xiaomi 10Pro and compared charging speeds and the Mi10 Pro is much more faster than the OP8 pro, it felt it takes hours until the op8 pro reaches 100%. i dont care about measurements, ampere showed me a peak of ~9500ma at peak on the mi10 pro, no idea about the OP8pro on ampere. My Mi10 pro had a 60w charger but i dont have an usb tester anymore, if the phone got a 100% charge under a hour then everything should fine, isnt?
Maybe your USB tester isn't capable to detect the right power of the charger, as i know these usb testers are only able to count voltages from quick charge (1,2,3...)?? But i can wrong here...
Flash-User said:
Okay, i had both phones, a OP 8pro (30w charge) and my new Xiaomi 10Pro and compared charging speeds and the Mi10 Pro is much more faster than the OP8 pro, it felt it takes hours until the op8 pro reaches 100%. i dont care about measurements, ampere showed me a peak of ~9500ma at peak on the mi10 pro, no idea about the OP8pro on ampere. My Mi10 pro had a 60w charger but i dont have an usb tester anymore, if the phone got a 100% charge under a hour then everything should fine, isnt?
Maybe your USB tester isn't capable to detect the right power of the charger, as i know these usb testers are only able to count voltages from quick charge (1,2,3...)?? But i can wrong here...
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Comparing the two phones, which one do you prefer and why?
Sorry for OT
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tobias14 said:
Comparing the two phones, which one do you prefer and why?
Sorry for OT
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he he, thats a funny thing, trust me ...
i bought the oneplus8 pro at relaese day as popup edition (cases and headphones included) 999€ and i used it for a bit more than one month BUT i never was satisfied at all, i mean there was a lot of camera improvements over time but i couldn't understand the hype about the display and when it comes to battery life i was a bit disappointed. (My former phone was a Huawei P30 pro) I had the feeling the battery was draining faster than normal and as i said, i never felt completely happy with the phone. So last weekend i surfed in the web and found a shop in the city next to me that sold the Xiaomi Mi10 pro so i decided to take a look on the phone. And trust me, i saw the phone in the store, played around a bit and i knew immediately thats the right one. I compared both phones a lot and until today i doesn't regret the decision. The Phone is Top notch in battery, display, performance i miss nothing from the opo8pro and i'm lucky that i sold the phone. All i kept from the oneplus was the WirelessZ Bullets.
abogrhen said:
I think he is asking to see is it SW bug or HW problem or just a big lie from Xiaomi about how much we should get in real world
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My point exactly. Notice i never complained about the charging speed. My issue is Xiaomi advertising this to have 50w charging but we consumers are only getting 25w tops. I am trying to figure out why. Will try to charge with the ampere app.
Machine_Head said:
My point exactly. Notice i never complained about the charging speed. My issue is Xiaomi advertising this to have 50w charging but we consumers are only getting 25w tops. I am trying to figure out why. Will try to charge with the ampere app.
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mine charges with like 50w (45-50w) until about 40% and after that it slows down gradually, which is the expected behavior.
this phone changed the way I use my phone completely! I always charged my devices overnight to 100. but now considering how little it takes to charge this phone I just don't think about charging every time it gets to like 10 I plug it in to 80%.
1% to 80% took 33min, 3502mAh
4% to 80% took 29min, 3227mAh
B!GBOY said:
mine charges with like 50w (45-50w) until about 40% and after that it slows down gradually, which is the expected behavior.
this phone changed the way I use my phone completely! I always charged my devices overnight to 100. but now considering how little it takes to charge this phone I just don't think about charging every time it gets to like 10 I plug it in to 80%.
1% to 80% took 33min, 3502mAh
4% to 80% took 29min, 3227mAh
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Did you use a tester to conclude you are getting 45-50w below 40%? If so, may I see it? I am suspecting the low reading could be due to my tester.
True, the charging speed changes the way I use my phone.
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Did you use a tester to conclude you are getting 45-50w below 40%? If so, may I see it? I am suspecting the low reading could be due to my tester.
True, the charging speed changes the way I use my phone.
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yup I have some cheapo china testers
the better one (usb c) shows about 45w when charging
the second one (usb a) only allows quick charge 18w because the 65w xiaomi charger uses a half assed usb 3 port (one pin more than usb 2) and
therefore only works if the (usb a) tester also has usb 3 pins. For the same reason if you use a normal usb 2 (usb a to c) cable you won't get 50w
i also tested it again. it charges up to 33% with ~45w and then goes down to ~30w I checked again at arrount 65% it was charging with ~25w. At least these are the values that my tester shows
other values (charge % , time, mAh) in my previous post were readings from the phone itself.
B!GBOY said:
yup I have some cheapo china testers
the better one (usb c) shows about 45w when charging
the second one (usb a) only allows quick charge 18w because the 65w xiaomi charger uses a half assed usb 3 port (one pin more than usb 2) and
therefore only works if the (usb a) tester also has usb 3 pins. For the same reason if you use a normal usb 2 (usb a to c) cable you won't get 50w
i also tested it again. it charges up to 33% with ~45w and then goes down to ~30w I checked again at arrount 65% it was charging with ~25w. At least these are the values that my tester shows
other values (charge % , time, mAh) in my previous post were readings from the phone itself.
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My usb tester is exactly the first photo. Since I got my unit used, it might not have the original cable.
Would you be kind enough to check if on the USB A side, where the cable attaches to plug, does it day 3A?
Also, at what amps does it say when the charged is doing 45w?
Thank you
Machine_Head said:
My usb tester is exactly the first photo. Since I got my unit used, it might not have the original cable.
Would you be kind enough to check if on the USB A side, where the cable attaches to plug, does it day 3A?
Also, at what amps does it say when the charged is doing 45w?
Thank you
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You can see the extra pin by looking down the port
I marked them in the attachments. Basically it's one of the 5 extra pins that usb 3 uses.
Sorry I have to check again later for the exact amperage, just charged my device. This time i checked the percentage and it charged to 41% with 45w. The deciding logic is probably more complicated than just a percentage.
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the reason u r not getting 50w is bcos u put a meter between the charger and the cable... in order for xiaomi to draw out 50w from usba they put in a small microchip inside the cable to trigger the 50w quick change. if u look into the usb cable u will see extra pin in the middle of the cable, this pin work with the microchip to trigger the 50w quick charge.
solution:
1. always use original cable come with the mi10pro phone.
2. dont plug anything between the cable and charger.
3. if u want to test charging speed with meter, use type-c to type-c meter.
FYi, xiaomi 50w is using 10v 5a.
The phone heats up to 43 degrees during fast charging.