I wonder why I am not getting the promised charging speed of 50w?
With the screen off I am getting 26.99w at most.
With the screen on I am getting around 12w.
I charged my fone at around 35%. I have a hunch the 50w will only kick in from 0% up to a certain percentage.
Anybody here observed similar results?
50 w is just for the beginning, when your battery is almost 0%.
The charger is not 50W flat. The charging power will change depending on the battery charge.
josuema said:
50 w is just for the beginning, when your battery is almost 0%.
The charger is not 50W flat. The charging power will change depending on the battery charge.
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That is what I was thinking as well. Will do a test at 0% to confirm.
Tested again charging from 4%. Still sitting at 25watts. But i was able to get a full charge in 53 minutes.
Mi 10 pro is 50
Mi 10 non pro is 30
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badaas said:
Mi 10 pro is 50
Mi 10 non pro is 30
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I know. Mine is Mi10 Pro and i'm getting only 25w max.
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But i was able to get a full charge in 53 minutes.
I know. Mine is Mi10 Pro and i'm getting only 25w max.
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And? this is an issue? 53 minutes a full charge, and your still claiming on numbers?
Who the hell care about a 25w charge if you doesnt need longer than 53minutes? Where the hell is the issue?
Flash-User said:
And? this is an issue? 53 minutes a full charge, and your still claiming on numbers?
Who the hell care about a 25w charge if you doesnt need longer than 53minutes? Where the hell is the issue?
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I understand your point
but if someone came from 30W charge phone to 50W charge phone
he will expect it to be faster at least, not slower
25W is very good but it is not 50W
I think he is asking to see is it SW bug or HW problem or just a big lie from Xiaomi about how much we should get in real world
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Tested again charging from 4%. Still sitting at 25watts. But i was able to get a full charge in 53 minutes.
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is the charger 50W or only 30
because from my understanding the global charger is only 30W
also, can you test without USB tester and use the app ampere
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I understand your point
but if someone came from 30W charge phone to 50W charge phone
he will expect it to be faster at least, not slower
25W is very good but it is not 50W
I think he is asking to see is it SW bug or HW problem or just a big lie from Xiaomi about how much we should get in real world
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is the charger 50W or only 30
because from my understanding the global charger is only 30W
also, can you test without USB tester and use the app ampere
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Okay, i had both phones, a OP 8pro (30w charge) and my new Xiaomi 10Pro and compared charging speeds and the Mi10 Pro is much more faster than the OP8 pro, it felt it takes hours until the op8 pro reaches 100%. i dont care about measurements, ampere showed me a peak of ~9500ma at peak on the mi10 pro, no idea about the OP8pro on ampere. My Mi10 pro had a 60w charger but i dont have an usb tester anymore, if the phone got a 100% charge under a hour then everything should fine, isnt?
Maybe your USB tester isn't capable to detect the right power of the charger, as i know these usb testers are only able to count voltages from quick charge (1,2,3...)?? But i can wrong here...
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Okay, i had both phones, a OP 8pro (30w charge) and my new Xiaomi 10Pro and compared charging speeds and the Mi10 Pro is much more faster than the OP8 pro, it felt it takes hours until the op8 pro reaches 100%. i dont care about measurements, ampere showed me a peak of ~9500ma at peak on the mi10 pro, no idea about the OP8pro on ampere. My Mi10 pro had a 60w charger but i dont have an usb tester anymore, if the phone got a 100% charge under a hour then everything should fine, isnt?
Maybe your USB tester isn't capable to detect the right power of the charger, as i know these usb testers are only able to count voltages from quick charge (1,2,3...)?? But i can wrong here...
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Comparing the two phones, which one do you prefer and why?
Sorry for OT
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Comparing the two phones, which one do you prefer and why?
Sorry for OT
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he he, thats a funny thing, trust me ...
i bought the oneplus8 pro at relaese day as popup edition (cases and headphones included) 999€ and i used it for a bit more than one month BUT i never was satisfied at all, i mean there was a lot of camera improvements over time but i couldn't understand the hype about the display and when it comes to battery life i was a bit disappointed. (My former phone was a Huawei P30 pro) I had the feeling the battery was draining faster than normal and as i said, i never felt completely happy with the phone. So last weekend i surfed in the web and found a shop in the city next to me that sold the Xiaomi Mi10 pro so i decided to take a look on the phone. And trust me, i saw the phone in the store, played around a bit and i knew immediately thats the right one. I compared both phones a lot and until today i doesn't regret the decision. The Phone is Top notch in battery, display, performance i miss nothing from the opo8pro and i'm lucky that i sold the phone. All i kept from the oneplus was the WirelessZ Bullets.
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My point exactly. Notice i never complained about the charging speed. My issue is Xiaomi advertising this to have 50w charging but we consumers are only getting 25w tops. I am trying to figure out why. Will try to charge with the ampere app.
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My point exactly. Notice i never complained about the charging speed. My issue is Xiaomi advertising this to have 50w charging but we consumers are only getting 25w tops. I am trying to figure out why. Will try to charge with the ampere app.
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mine charges with like 50w (45-50w) until about 40% and after that it slows down gradually, which is the expected behavior.
this phone changed the way I use my phone completely! I always charged my devices overnight to 100. but now considering how little it takes to charge this phone I just don't think about charging every time it gets to like 10 I plug it in to 80%.
1% to 80% took 33min, 3502mAh
4% to 80% took 29min, 3227mAh
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mine charges with like 50w (45-50w) until about 40% and after that it slows down gradually, which is the expected behavior.
this phone changed the way I use my phone completely! I always charged my devices overnight to 100. but now considering how little it takes to charge this phone I just don't think about charging every time it gets to like 10 I plug it in to 80%.
1% to 80% took 33min, 3502mAh
4% to 80% took 29min, 3227mAh
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Did you use a tester to conclude you are getting 45-50w below 40%? If so, may I see it? I am suspecting the low reading could be due to my tester.
True, the charging speed changes the way I use my phone.
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Did you use a tester to conclude you are getting 45-50w below 40%? If so, may I see it? I am suspecting the low reading could be due to my tester.
True, the charging speed changes the way I use my phone.
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yup I have some cheapo china testers
the better one (usb c) shows about 45w when charging
the second one (usb a) only allows quick charge 18w because the 65w xiaomi charger uses a half assed usb 3 port (one pin more than usb 2) and
therefore only works if the (usb a) tester also has usb 3 pins. For the same reason if you use a normal usb 2 (usb a to c) cable you won't get 50w
i also tested it again. it charges up to 33% with ~45w and then goes down to ~30w I checked again at arrount 65% it was charging with ~25w. At least these are the values that my tester shows
other values (charge % , time, mAh) in my previous post were readings from the phone itself.
B!GBOY said:
yup I have some cheapo china testers
the better one (usb c) shows about 45w when charging
the second one (usb a) only allows quick charge 18w because the 65w xiaomi charger uses a half assed usb 3 port (one pin more than usb 2) and
therefore only works if the (usb a) tester also has usb 3 pins. For the same reason if you use a normal usb 2 (usb a to c) cable you won't get 50w
i also tested it again. it charges up to 33% with ~45w and then goes down to ~30w I checked again at arrount 65% it was charging with ~25w. At least these are the values that my tester shows
other values (charge % , time, mAh) in my previous post were readings from the phone itself.
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My usb tester is exactly the first photo. Since I got my unit used, it might not have the original cable.
Would you be kind enough to check if on the USB A side, where the cable attaches to plug, does it day 3A?
Also, at what amps does it say when the charged is doing 45w?
Thank you
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My usb tester is exactly the first photo. Since I got my unit used, it might not have the original cable.
Would you be kind enough to check if on the USB A side, where the cable attaches to plug, does it day 3A?
Also, at what amps does it say when the charged is doing 45w?
Thank you
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You can see the extra pin by looking down the port
I marked them in the attachments. Basically it's one of the 5 extra pins that usb 3 uses.
Sorry I have to check again later for the exact amperage, just charged my device. This time i checked the percentage and it charged to 41% with 45w. The deciding logic is probably more complicated than just a percentage.
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the reason u r not getting 50w is bcos u put a meter between the charger and the cable... in order for xiaomi to draw out 50w from usba they put in a small microchip inside the cable to trigger the 50w quick change. if u look into the usb cable u will see extra pin in the middle of the cable, this pin work with the microchip to trigger the 50w quick charge.
solution:
1. always use original cable come with the mi10pro phone.
2. dont plug anything between the cable and charger.
3. if u want to test charging speed with meter, use type-c to type-c meter.
FYi, xiaomi 50w is using 10v 5a.
The phone heats up to 43 degrees during fast charging.
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Hello.
Can someone explain me how on earth does fart charging works on this device?
I've tried the included cable and charger, third party chargers and i don't see any fast charging going on?!? or any indication on screen that it's happening.
I've read somewhere that you need a special cable to use with the included charger (?!?!) is this true? where do you get this cable?
Phone is amazing but the charging part is really is really weird if you ask me.
Thanks.
J.
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Hello.
Can someone explain me how on earth does fart charging works on this device?
I've tried the included cable and charger, third party chargers and i don't see any fast charging going on?!? or any indication on screen that it's happening.
I've read somewhere that you need a special cable to use with the included charger (?!?!) is this true? where do you get this cable?
Phone is amazing but the charging part is really is really weird if you ask me.
Thanks.
J.
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it sharges in an hour and half with me
it is quite fast
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it sharges in an hour and half with me
it is quite fast
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do you get any message saying fast charging?
it doesnt show any fast charging message, so i wouldnt rely on such a message to make sure its working. just use the included cable and charger and ull be fine it takes about 2.5 hours to charge from 0-100% via fastcharge
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Yeah ...That's why I asked. I plugged a meter to the charger and never saw it go more than 5v 2a.
I think it needs a special cable for the 9v but I can't find any info.
2.5h is not fast charge. My old s6 edge plus used to take around 70-80 m from 5-100% if if you put the remaining 1000mah shouldn't take that long lol
Mean in 30 min 40% recharge . My phone 0 -100% charged in 2:00
trust me, it is fast charge
calculate for yourself: original huawei charger is rated at 9V 2A, thats 18W total. 2A is 2000 mA. mate 8 battery is 4000 mAh.
best case scenario: 4000 mAh / 2000 mA = 2h
now add to that the extra time it needs to charge from 85-100%, because at 85% it automatically slows down charging to prolong the health of the battery and youre at the 2.5h FAST CHARGING time
also, i dont believe for a SECOND that the S6 edge+ charged that fast in your case. check this review: http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-plus-review-battery-life-and-verdict-page-6
"Fast charging comes as standard with the S6 Edge+ and it works. It charged from 0 to 100% in just 1 hour 45 minutes. Samsung claims wireless charging has also been improved – it’s 27% faster on the Edge+ compared to the normal S6 and S6 Edge."
so thats 105 minutes for 3000 mAh. add to that 33.3% to get to 4000 mAh and u get a total charging time of..... 140 minutes. which is 2 hours and 20 minutes
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trust me, it is fast charge
calculate for yourself: original huawei charger is rated at 9V 2A, thats 18W total. 2A is 2000 mA. mate 8 battery is 4000 mAh.
best case scenario: 4000 mAh / 2000 mA = 2h
now add to that the extra time it needs to charge from 85-100%, because at 85% it automatically slows down charging to prolong the health of the battery and youre at the 2.5h FAST CHARGING time
also, i dont believe for a SECOND that the S6 edge+ charged that fast in your case. check this review: http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-plus-review-battery-life-and-verdict-page-6
"Fast charging comes as standard with the S6 Edge+ and it works. It charged from 0 to 100% in just 1 hour 45 minutes. Samsung claims wireless charging has also been improved – it’s 27% faster on the Edge+ compared to the normal S6 and S6 Edge."
so thats 105 minutes for 3000 mAh. add to that 33.3% to get to 4000 mAh and u get a total charging time of..... 140 minutes. which is 2 hours and 20 minutes
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I will make a full test from 0 to 100. I only charged from 40 to 100 and it took way more than 2 hours... that's why i asked if any special cable was needed. And as i told i mesured the charging rate coming out of the charger and never passed the 5V.
As for non Believing. It's REALLY pisses me off when people write that crap. Why would I lie? what would i gain from it? I sold the phone because i wasn't happy with it.... On the contrary and in case you don't know most sites like the ones you post are PAID to give positive reviews.
I checked with including charger and cable and the app Ampére and it charged with 2800mah. So, in ideaal situation it means a charging time of a proximity 1h and 26min. That means "fast charging". At least in my opinion. ?
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I will make a full test from 0 to 100. I only charged from 40 to 100 and it took way more than 2 hours... that's why i asked if any special cable was needed. And as i told i mesured the charging rate coming out of the charger and never passed the 5V.
As for non Believing. It's REALLY pisses me off when people write that crap. Why would I lie? what would i gain from it? I sold the phone because i wasn't happy with it.... On the contrary and in case you don't know most sites like the ones you post are PAID to give positive reviews.
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that doesnt make sense what ure saying because in this case the site actually stated a HIGHER amount of minutes that it would take the s6 edge plus to fully charge from 0-100% so what now, theyre getting paid to write negative reviews as well?
also, no, ure not "gaining" anything from that, but people tend to exaggerate a lot, do a quick "drive by" in a thread and post random statements based on non-correctly remembered experiences and this is exactly how false statements are converted into "truths / facts". read my post and tell me where exactly i listed anything wrong. check various reviews on the mate 8, they all stare the same thing: about 2.5h for a full charge, give or take 10-20 min. it also compares perfectly with the charging time of the s6 edge+ in terms of mAh/min, and in fact these two phones are indeed VERY close, mate 8 being at 49mAh/min and the s6 series at around 50-52, so just marginally faster... which, again, is also represented by the numbers i listed in my post before
and again: there is NO extra message or notification stating ure in fast charge mode on the mate 8, it just does its job, thats it!
if ure getting slower charging rates / voltages, make sure to use the original charger and original cable and both with a proper high voltage power outlet.
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I noticed the fast charging only really kicks in if you leave your phone alone. But if you keep using it while it's charging, it just charges at regular speed. But the moment I put the phone down and screen of for 5 minutes, it quick charges like crazy
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I noticed the fast charging only really kicks in if you leave your phone alone. But if you keep using it while it's charging, it just charges at regular speed. But the moment I put the phone down and screen of for 5 minutes, it quick charges like crazy
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Yes im checked It is true
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lucky then that i always leave my phone alone when its charging
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I noticed the fast charging only really kicks in if you leave your phone alone. But if you keep using it while it's charging, it just charges at regular speed. But the moment I put the phone down and screen of for 5 minutes, it quick charges like crazy
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I hadn't tested this. After i turn off my phone, a few minutes later it jumps to 9V 2A on my meter. If you turn it back on it goes down to 5V 1A. Must be a phone security thing, which is kinda cool in a way if you ask me.
Btw Apparently quick charge works with non original chargers too. I have a Cheotech 60W 6 port usb with 2 Quick charge ports (which supports 9V 2A/ 12V 1.5A) and it works Using the original cable though.
Don't use fast charging unless you really need it.
Always fast charging overnite (when you're not actually using the phone for many hours) can only shorten your battery longevity more quickly then with normal charging.
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I hadn't tested this. After i turn off my phone, a few minutes later it jumps to 9V 2A on my meter. If you turn it back on it goes down to 5V 1A. Must be a phone security thing, which is kinda cool in a way if you ask me.
Btw Apparently quick charge works with non original chargers too. I have a Cheotech 60W 6 port usb with 2 Quick charge ports (which supports 9V 2A/ 12V 1.5A) and it works Using the original cable though.
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is there option somewhere to turn it off? plz
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Don't use fast charging unless you really need it.
Always fast charging overnite (when you're not actually using the phone for many hours) can only shorten your battery longevity more quickly then with normal charging.
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is there option somewhere to turn it off?
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When I'm going to recharge for many hours overnite I use a 1A travel charger.
i guess thats the best way to restrict charging amperage although it shouldnt hurt the battery so much, considering that the amperage drops off sharply once level reaches 85% and above...
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Charging a phone with a lower rated current, will cause the charger to "try and match" the current requested.
Amps work in that manner, the device determines the draw. For example, using a 5v 5a (theoretical device) on a 5v 1a device will likely melt your adapter / screw up your phone from improper voltages.
In that case, an adapter may heat up, or if its smart enough (unlikely), it will turn off periodically. Most of the time, it will have an unstable voltage (undervolting) which is how some phones are able to detect an improper charger is used. This is bad for your battery.
I do not recommend charging with a charger that isn't rated for it. This is widely documented.
Has anybody measured the charging rate of the S8 Plus? More specifically has anybody checked to see how many amps they're charging at?
I'm using the app called Ampere and I'm only seeing a max of 1 amp regardless of what battery percent I start charging at.
This seems really bad considering this is suppose to be fast charging. On the pixel I was getting 2+ amps at all times. On the nexus 6p I was getting 1.8 amps.
Can anybody else also check to see what you're getting. Please post what the battery percent is at when up plug in to charge, and what the app Ampere is showing.
I am using original charging brick and original usb a to type c cable.
When the screen is on fast charging is disabled, when its off its charging at [email protected] from 0 to maybe 70% then it trickle charges.
With standard 2A charger, i can see 1600-1700 in ampere,
With QC 2.0 , am checking the voltmeter and it do the 9v charging,
So nothing wrong
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When the screen is on fast charging is disabled, when its off its charging at [email protected] from 0 to maybe 70% then it trickle charges.
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i tried to use the phone when it charges and it doesn't slow down the charge rate....maybe if the device get hot then it slows down
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With standard 2A charger, i can see 1600-1700 in ampere,
With QC 2.0 , am checking the voltmeter and it do the 9v charging,
So nothing wrong
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Standard 2A charger, you mean the original that came with the phone?
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Standard 2A charger, you mean the original that came with the phone?
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No, i mean any decent 2A charger,
I use my country local brand Hippo, for example, and charging rate is good
The one came with the phone is QC 2.0 that can go faster than normal 2A charger, although it only rated at 1.67 but it's 9V
So this is what I've found out.
First of all the app Ampere only gives charging information for when the screen is ON and not OFF. I uninstalled the app and installed AccuBattery which does everything.
When charging with the screen on the phone charges with amps of 1.3 amps.
When charging with the screen off the phone charges at 2.5 Amps.
Again all original utilities used
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So this is what I've found out.
First of all the app Ampere only gives charging information for when the screen is ON and not OFF. I uninstalled the app and installed AccuBattery which does everything.
When charging with the screen on the phone charges with amps of 1.3 amps.
When charging with the screen off the phone charges at 2.5 Amps.
Again all original utilities used
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This is interesting and annoying at the same time. I had no idea the phone charged at different rates based on if the screen was off or on. my previous htc 10 did not do this and charged fast anytime it was plugged in. while driving and running waze i noticed the s8 didnt charge as fast with the screen on but ill have to try with it off to see the rate. i also installed accubattery to test screen off charging rate since ampere doesnt. thanks
What is the default charging rate of galaxy s8 plus?
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What is the default charging rate of galaxy s8 plus?
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I have seen I think up to 1.5 amps or so. What ever the quick charge is rated for I would assume. Screen on full charge. 9 volts. At .5 amps
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I have seen I think up to 1.5 amps or so. What ever the quick charge is rated for I would assume. Screen on full charge. 9 volts. At .5 amps
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I mean the default charge rate. I'm checking in Galaxy Current Charge app & its shows approx 1500 to 1800 MA on screen off. Thats i want to know from others what they getting in their s8+?
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I mean the default charge rate. I'm checking in Galaxy Current Charge app & its shows approx 1500 to 1800 MA on screen off. Thats i want to know from others what they getting in their s8+?
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Well I drained to 60% and recharged and on fast charge i got 1.5 amps or 1500 milli
I go off my cable it has never let me down
I have had to many device where the readings of the apps where off
That current cable is pretty accurate most apps I have seen on S8 though
I use it to detect charging problems on blocks,cords,and device Found the sweet spot on my old note 2 with it and made it usable for now again
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Well I drained to 60% and recharged and on fast charge i got 1.5 amps or 1500 milli
I go off my cable it has never let me down
I have had to many device where the readings of the apps where off
That current cable is pretty accurate most apps I have seen on S8 though
I use it to detect charging problems on blocks,cords,and device Found the sweet spot on my old note 2 with it and made it usable for now again
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Do you get stable 1.5 amp all the time or it constant gets up & down?
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Do you get stable 1.5 amp all the time or it constant gets up & down?
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It variates up and down a bit seems pretty stable till i turn on screen
So I bought a very cheap cable at the 'Action' (a discount store in the Netherlands) and I didn't believe what I saw.... 2.7 Amp, with SCREEN ON. I tested with 3 apps. It IS really the loading amp.
Unbelievable !! THe cable can be inserterd in 2 ways (everybody knows here, USB-C) With the label on the cable up works the fastest. I think charging with phone off goes even faster, till 80 %, maximal 45 min. Is this an update of Android for the S8plus or do I have an extremely good cable ?
Does this model support power delivery like the Pro model? If so has anyone tested how many watts it pulls from a power delivery charger? Oneplus states the pro model supports 5V/3A power delivery which I believe is 15watts.
Pro 30W
Non Pro 20W
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Pro 30W
Non Pro 20W
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These specs are for Oneplus's proprietary warp charging which is separate from the power delivery standard.
Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
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Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
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you are uninformed. in addition to Warp, the 7p supports PD upto 3a with screen off. Android police confirmed this in their review.
OP is asking if 7 also supports this.
I have not measured charging speeds, etc. but I have a bunch of official Google PD bricks here for my 2XL and my OP7 charges just as fast, if not faster, than my Pixel. Just anecdotal but I was happy with charging performance.
I've charged my OnePlus 7 from 14% to 100% in about 1h and 15min. I call that really fast charging.
nIGhT-SoN said:
I've charged my OnePlus 7 from 14% to 100% in about 1h and 15min. I call that really fast charging.
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With the charger that came with the phone or a different charger?
The included charger, it's the 20W one.
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Without that it's unreal slow, maybe 1A
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The included charger, it's the 20W one.
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Do you know what this thread is about?
Everyone knows Dash 20W is super fast. We're asking about USB PD.
heov said:
Do you know what this thread is about?
Everyone knows Dash 20W is super fast. We're asking about USB PD.
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Like I sad, it will be 1A, maybe for the first 50% 1.5A, because with 3A a lot will not pay the extra bucks for Dash charger.
Pro: 5V/6A - 3A
Non-Pro: 5V/4A - 3A? No way... with luck maybe 2A
I will get my OP7 next week and I can test it but I'm sure you will get up to 1.5A
I've charged it with a power bank from Huawei, with fast charge and it charged pretty quick. I haven't look at the time it took, but next time I will.
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Like I sad, it will be 1A, maybe for the first 50% 1.5A, because with 3A a lot will not pay the extra bucks for Dash charger.
Pro: 5V/6A - 3A
Non-Pro: 5V/4A - 3A? No way... with luck maybe 2A
I will get my OP7 next week and I can test it but I'm sure you will get up to 1.5A
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So you are saying:
OP7 Pro supports USB 3.1, USB PD protocol to 3A, and Warp-protocol to 6A
OP7 supports USB 3.1, Dash-protocol to 4A, but NOT USB-PD?
Please do test it- to confirm, you must have 1. screen off 2. a USB power meter that can measure the draw (or an app that can record the draw while the screen is off- viewing current while in app will not work since it only works with screen off.
There seems to be a lot of people who don't understand what USB-PD is. Of course, if you use a normal USB charger that is neither Dash/Warp nor USB PD, it will not draw more than 1.5A.
nIGhT-SoN said:
I've charged it with a power bank from Huawei, with fast charge and it charged pretty quick. I haven't look at the time it took, but next time I will.
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You can use a app, which will tell you how fast it charge.
heov said:
There seems to be a lot of people who don't understand what USB-PD is. Of course, if you use a normal USB charger that is neither Dash/Warp nor USB PD, it will not draw more than 1.5A.
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Dude, USB-PD means USB Power Delivery. How somebody can not understand what this mean?
Oppo slow it down to sell VOOC/Dash charger (and cable) in the kernel, like on the OnePlus devices before.
When the OP7 support 3A, with 5V, you will get 15W, which is almost QC 3.0, so you can get 5 charger and any cable you want for the same price as a Dash charger. There is no way!
So I've tried today charging with my power bank, a HUAWEI 10000mAh QuickCharge power bank, from 1% to 100% and it took about 2h and 30min. From 15% I think it would take about 2h to charge. Power bank fast charging is rated at 9V 2A 18W. With Ampere it was showing to chager at about 1.3-1.4A. I would say it's pretty ok, it's not as fast as with the original charger, but it's ok.
nIGhT-SoN said:
So I've tried today charging with my power bank, a HUAWEI 10000mAh QuickCharge power bank, from 1% to 100% and it took about 2h and 30min. From 15% I think it would take about 2h to charge. Power bank fast charging is rated at 9V 2A 18W. With Ampere it was showing to chager at about 1.3-1.4A. I would say it's pretty ok, it's not as fast as with the original charger, but it's ok.
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That is not a USB-PD bank. It'll charge at 1.5A tops with that. Our phones can't do QuickCharge.
Do the same test if you can, but use a USB-PD charger and screen off.
This thread is about getting a confirmation that it can regulate with USB-PD upto 3A when the screen is off. Our phones will not support QuickCharge or any other proprietary protocol.
We know It does Dash/Warp, regular USB upto 1.5A, and now we want to know if it does USB PD.
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So I caved and finally tested it myself.
Yes, the regular OnePlus 7 does support USB-PD 5v upto 3A with the screen off. With the screen on, I could get 1.94A
I used an Essential PH-1 included charger, which is a USB-PD charger that can do 5V and 9V upto 3A. I went from 60% to 70% in 8 minutes, and used the logkit to capture the current. While on, I was getting a consistent 1.94A, which is higher than a regular USB charger which usually peaks around 1.4-1.5A. With the screen off, I kept the logkit going, and you can see the average is well above 2A (again, this is average- I had the screen on for a while before an after, which is why the average isn't 3A). It's also worth noting this was only from 60-70%.
So yes, like the OP7 Pro, the OP7 also supports USB-PD up to 3A with the screen off, and upto 2A with the screen on, much faster than a regular USB Charge, and ALMOST on-par with Dash Charging with screen off.
So hopefully this puts this thread to rest, and you can feel confident buying a USB-PD brick, and those that doubted it have learned that OnePlus didn't skimp on the USB controller on the regular OP7.
From the graph, you can see the flat line at -3 when the screen was off, and how it bounces "up" to -1.7 when it's on.
Can confirm, used my USB PD charger while away last week. Charge from 5ish% to full was around 2 hours. Much quicker than the old standard Microsoft USB C charger I use at home.
Charge time with PD was similar to that with my old mate 20 pro which showed 'fast charging' to indicate PD being used.
Hi,
for me, the charging speed varies between 50 and 75 minutes for a full charge. It says warp charge 65 on the lockscreen. Any idea, what might cause it being slower than it should be? I am on OOS 11.0.4.5.
Thanks
Mine actually charges faster than advertised. It charges from totally discharged to fully charged in 35 minutes with the phone turned off.
xdam57733 said:
Hi,
for me, the charging speed varies between 50 and 75 minutes for a full charge. It says warp charge 65 on the lockscreen. Any idea, what might cause it being slower than it should be? I am on OOS 11.0.4.5.
Thanks
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Check to see if you have optimised charging enabled. If you do then that slows down charging.
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ronak47 said:
Check to see if you have optimised charging enabled. If you do then that slows down charging.
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Thanks, it is switched off. Do you know how much current is used when charging at about 60%? According to 3C, it is between 1,800 and 2,800 mA. Only once, I have seen about 6,000 mA in a similar situation. Somehow this looks rather random to me.
Warp charge is as advertised for me. Any other charger is extremely slow. Gsam shows I'm at about 3400 while charging from 60-70.
https://imgur.com/a/zzEPKLf
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Thanks, it is switched off. Do you know how much current is used when charging at about 60%? According to 3C, it is between 1,800 and 2,800 mA. Only once, I have seen about 6,000 mA in a similar situation. Somehow this looks rather random to me.
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I stop paying attention to the current because in the end it doesn't matter what instantaneous current I am seeing. I always see it starts with 5500+ mA for just a few seconds and drop to 3000+. I ignored it and just let it charge (phone on, screen off).
I usually charge from 2x % to 90%, and it takes no longer than 25 minutes most of the time. Averaging 2.5~3% per minute.
Usb cable or usb port of your phone might be at fault.
My 8t takes less than 40 mins even with optimized charging turned on.
Because my phone says Warp charge 65, I do not think charger or cable are broken. I try to avoid uncharging my phone to a low level, so I cannot tell how long it would take from empty to full.
The other observations are like what @zellleonhart is describing. I had just wanted to rule out hardware issues for a new device.
xdam57733 said:
Because my phone says Warp charge 65, I do not think charger or cable are broken. I try to avoid uncharging my phone to a low level, so I cannot tell how long it would take from empty to full.
The other observations are like what @zellleonhart is describing. I had just wanted to rule out hardware issues for a new device.
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That used to happen to me. 65w would only happen for some charges and other times it would be slower taking over an hour to fully charge. Now it charges fast every single time in 40 mins or less. Not sure what fixed it but I have a t mobile variant converted to the latest eu 11.0.5.6 and optimized charging off. I don't always charge full but the first 15-20 mins being fast seems important imo since that can be done after waking up and getting ready
I think we are all forgetting that we aren't charging one 4500 battery but actually two 2250 batteries at the same time. It legitimately charges from 0-100 in under 40 minutes, I've tested it. The problem is it's not compatible with any other charger I've tried. Quick charge 1,2,3,4 or PD or even the warp 30 from my OnePlus 7 pro. Any other charger I try is like plugging it into a computer and would take 24 hours to charge. OnePlus definitely messed something up and really needs to fix it soon.
954wrecker said:
I think we are all forgetting that we aren't charging one 4500 battery but actually two 2250 batteries at the same time. It legitimately charges from 0-100 in under 40 minutes, I've tested it.
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My original observation (and this was confirmed by multiple people now) was that using the original charger and cable, charging speed varies a lot and only sometimes had cuurents for a few mins, which could charge in 40 mins if it would be constantly at that rate.
Your comment about slow charges using other chargers unfortunately is very true. I have tries lots of combinations (chargers for Macbook Pro, Xiaomi phones, older Oneplus chargers and cables from 3T) and the fastest of these would need about 3-4h and the slowest about 10-12h (estimates based on current).
xdam57733 said:
My original observation (and this was confirmed by multiple people now) was that using the original charger and cable, charging speed varies a lot and only sometimes had cuurents for a few mins, which could charge in 40 mins if it would be constantly at that rate.
Your comment about slow charges using other chargers unfortunately is very true. I have tries lots of combinations (chargers for Macbook Pro, Xiaomi phones, older Oneplus chargers and cables from 3T) and the fastest of these would need about 3-4h and the slowest about 10-12h (estimates based on current).
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My phone has charged at the advertised speeds every single time I've ever plugged in the warp charger. It charges my phone everyday from 20%-80% in 18 minutes. I've charged it from 0-100 in 38 minutes.
954wrecker said:
Warp charge is as advertised for me. Any other charger is extremely slow. Gsam shows I'm at about 3400 while charging from 60-70.
https://imgur.com/a/zzEPKLf
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Yep this is the annoying part for me. I leave my warp charger at home. My car charger and charger for work charges extremely slow. Most of the time the % doesn't even move.
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Meanwhile I have rooted my phone and installed xXx_NoLimits.
Since I did that, the charging speed was always as fast as Oneplus states.
Weird...
Are you using custom kernel? Some custom kernels don"t have fastcharge.
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Are you using custom kernel? Some custom kernels don"t have fastcharge.
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I got warp charger speeds non rooted, rooted, stock kernel, custom kernel, with no limits, without no limits. Warp charge always works for me the past month.
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Are you using custom kernel? Some custom kernels don"t have fastcharge.
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No. Haven't used a custom kernel on this phone yet.
Just tried the 30W Warp charger of my OP3T again after installing xXx_NoLimits and now this is also charging relatively fast. Estimated full charge time is 1:35.
And yes, I understand that for some folks the full speed has always worked
This is the absolute best warp charge magnetic cable I and my friends have ever used. Been using it for years now. Both warp and dash changes and better yet. None of my phones have charging port issues ^_^.
I'm looking to replace the old battery of my s6 that drains (and heats up?) quickly.
A supposedly original Samsung s7e battery is sold at many websites for ~$20 such as walmart. Even if it is indeed an original (quality) Samsung battery it's still 4~5 years old? On top of that I don't have a case so I'm not too keen on the battery being 1mm thicker.
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Edge-G935W8-Battery-Replacement/PRD441YFPLP0QVC
Meanwhile on Amazon a 3800 mah li-polymer battery is sold by 'SHENMZ' with a number of reviews suggesting it has better capacity (at least 3000 mah according to accubattery) than the original S6 battery: https://www.amazon.ca/Upgraded-Rechargeable-Portable-Charging-Protective/dp/B07RN3LDVV/
This 'SPWOMYGD' one is significantly cheaper but the reviews don't look promissing: https://www.amazon.ca/SPWOMYGD-Galaxy-S6-Replacement-EB-BG920ABE/dp/B088M8FZYR/
I'm pretty undecided at this point .
Look at this before you decide what to do:
Redmi Note 9S weird Battery Issue
Hello, My phone problem is, whenever i charged my phone to any certain percentage like 80%, 90%, 100%, and unplugged the charger and using the phone, first 5-10 minutes its consume 5-6% battery and first 1 hour of using its consume 10-12%. This...
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Look at this before you decide what to do:
Redmi Note 9S weird Battery Issue
Hello, My phone problem is, whenever i charged my phone to any certain percentage like 80%, 90%, 100%, and unplugged the charger and using the phone, first 5-10 minutes its consume 5-6% battery and first 1 hour of using its consume 10-12%. This...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Unfortunately I don't have any powerful chargers for this old phone. If only I could plug in my gf's macbook charger like I can with my IPad.
Dont you have a 2.0A plug? Your fones fine, just find a charger that says 2.0A or 2000mA and get on with it lol, sayin that, I dont know the usb power output of the macbook, was it the macbook you plugged into? If so, try another port?
Any powered usb hub?
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Dont you have a 2.0A plug? Your fones fine, just find a charger that says 2.0A or 2000mA and get on with it lol, sayin that, I dont know the usb power output of the macbook, was it the macbook you plugged into? If so, try another port?
Any powered usb hub?
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Highest charger to which I can connect a usb to whatever the s6 uses cable has 5.2 volt and 1.35 a output, the rest are 5 volt, 1 a output iphone chargers.
That SHOULD work, (at least it is 1000mA more than the pc) it'll just take a wee bit longer
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That SHOULD work, (at least it is 1000mA more than the pc) it'll just take a wee bit longer
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I haven't used the phone for the past 2 weeks or so due to the poor battery battery life, so I guess I'll plug it for 72 hours non-stop or a week or whatever and see, but I'd be really surprised if it will be as good as new .
Yeah, just dont turn it on for 24 hours, try powering on anytime after that, the good thing is if it's that flat, you dont need the capacitor, you just need to slow flash lol, but remember when your (new style) battery is run down to say 10%, it's be best to drain it completely before next charge