CM vs AOSP - Samsung Galaxy S II Plus

Surfing in the net I've come across in a xda thread about CM and AOSP comparison.
A lot of devs consider CM laggish and slow since 2013, whereas AOSP is faster.
Is is true?

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Linaro Android nearly doubles ICS performance

Here's an interesting article some of you guys might enjoy.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-and-now-parts-of-it-are-being-added-to-cm9/
News started to trickle out this week about a new Android build called Linaro. Basically, it takes stock Android 4.0.4 and makes it super-fast, and super-awesome(er). In fact, it can boost performance by up to 100 percent over stock. Considering how fast and fluid stock Android 4.0.x already is (especially compared to older versions of the OS), that's quite impressive. Don't take my word for it, though, here's one of the main Linaro guys, Bernhard Rosenkranzer, showing it off on a TI Pandaboard. The Pandaboard features the OMAP 4430 processor (the same one that's in the Droid RAZR), so this is definitely a real-world example of what Linaro is capable of:
As you can see, the Linaro build finishes long before the stock Android build. That's not the best part though: the parts of Linaro that make is so efficient and fast are coming soon to Cyanogenmod 9.
Basically, parts of the Linaro code have been submitted to the CM9 gerrit and are currently awaiting approval. Once commited, these tweaks will be added to the main CM9 code, giving all supported devices a drastic increase in performance.
The good news doesn't end there, though: Galaxy Nexus owners can already take an unofficial CM9 build with the Linaro bits for a whirl. From what we've read, this build is noticeably faster and more fluid right out of the gate. Awesome.
Since the first rule of CM is don't ask for ETAs, we have no idea when we could start seeing builds show up with Linaro code, so for now, we'll all just have to take comfort in knowing that things in the CM9 world are getting ready to get a lot faster.
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There's already Linaro'd CM9 build for the GNexus. And Linaro tweaks are soon going to be added to the official CM9 even before Google can implement it. What do the developers here think of Linaro? Will you be willing to Linaro your roms?
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I have a nexus and I can say that it is simply a placebo... gaming performance decreases and it's hardly noticeable while doing daily tasks - web browsing, video steaming, scrolling, listening to music, etc. My quadrant boosted by 300 - from 2036 to 2336... not great. I don't OC so I can't speak for those who did to augment the effectiveness of Linaro. I'm not saying Linaro isn't effective but your GCC tool chain must be compatible in order to fully implement some "raw" power.
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This thread is pretty much dead but I thought I'd throw in my opinion. Atm, I'm running an unofficial build directly from Linaro and is untouched by any other dev, such as kernel, tweaks, OC etc..
Its not blow your mind amazing compared to past roms, what is amazing though is how much faster it is than stock (which was/is the main sell point of linaro project) My second GNex was stock for about 4 months before I decided to go back to custom roms. Obviously it would be faster/smoother but with my first GNex I spent quite a bit finding the right rom/kernel/tweaks/OC combo to made it this useable. With this build, I have added nothing. Plus from what I understand, its not necessarily a tweak but rather an optimization that uses an updated install method to better integrate the OS and its processes or something like that.
Linaro is definitely on to something here, or Google wouldn't be pulling pieces of Linaro code. Lol
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It doubles ONE benchmark which is not a significant part of normal operation, it does NOT "nearly double ICS performance".
god I hate the game of "telephone" where people read one thing, pass it on with minor errors, and before long you have complete and total utter bull****.
In most benchmarks, the Linabug tweaks give no benefit at all. They also give very little benefit on devices where most components are binary vendor blobs.
The Linabug prep in CM has broken piles of stuff over the past two weeks, and if the compiler switch happens it's going to be hell - expect piles of obscure bugs that are next to impossible to track down.
Compiler tweaks are way overrated - I speak as a reformed Gentoo ricer here. I drank the kool-aid for years and then came to my senses.
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[Q] Pros/Cons of each AOSP-based build?

I've been pretty much a CM user since my OG Evo (when I'm not forced to use Sense ROMs) and I see a lot of discussion in regards to other devices of which ROM everyone uses.
I'm wondering, specifically in relation to our One X, what are the pros and cons of say, CM vs. AOKP vs. P.A. etc?
It would be best if you looked at the features of each and decide, but in a nutshell, cm10 if you want a simple aosp Rom that is regularly updated, aokp if you want more customization, and pa if you want tablet experience. For me, my vote goes to cm10. H8rift and folks at cm10 has done an awesome job for us.
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What is CM doing??

As an avid flasher and big fan of 3rd party software (not a dev) I have to ask this.. what is CyanogenMod doing?
It seems to me like they are running on a treadmill going nowhere. The latest problems are with introducing this new kernel, taking stability back to the stone ages. All this time and we still have general bluetooth errors, random reboots, weak cell coverage (yes, I know it reports lower, but it's actually LOWER). So, I have to ask, with the upcoming release of Android 5.0, the Galaxy S4 and after 8 months of CM10.1 development, why don't they produce a stable product?
CM 10.1 is so freaking awesome! But it sometimes can't be a DD for me cause I need reliability. The last stable release was from Nov 2012. I really want to donate and cheer on the CM team, but it's hard to when I don't know what they're up to. Samsung's software sucks, and CM really delivers on overall user experience, if they could button up the quality and reliability I feel it would have a lot more adopters.
BTW, the latest nightly (31 Mar) is doing really well.
youre wrong on alot of levels here.
1. signal is the same for me as TW. compared to my mothers AND brothers stock S3 over the holiday weekend at various locations.
2. Ive only had ONE random reboot running AOSP. ONE. Thats over 5-6 months.
3. Feel free to develop your own ROM instead of crying. These people put hours into their work and do it for you to download their ROMS for FREE.
So you're not a Dev yet your crying about progress from the most popular Android rom?
Maybe you should learn to Dev yourself so you can satisfy your own needs.
Not going to be a productive thread

[Q] CAF vs AOSP

Hello, just got my Nexus 5 in the mail and I'm happy to join this community along with my previous device forum
But my question is what's the difference between CAF and AOSP? And how would I tell if a ROM is based on CAF or AOSP?
I did a little research myself where CAF is Code Aurora Forums and that CM is now based off of it. It's also what's behind Qualcomm's kernel work and whatnot. AOSP is android as it is now. It was formerly based off CAF but bridged off a while back then and the .libs are a lot different from CAF now. Right?
(Thanks @poondog for getting me started on this!)
But how would I be able to tell if a ROM is CAF or AOSP? Would that really impact what kernels I flash and such? (like CAF ROM only CAF kernel)
Also what would the advantages between the 2, if there are any?
Thanks a lot!
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CAF=cyanogen 11 based roms, not all kernels work unless they state CM support in the OP which isnt many nowadays.
AOSP=the majority of roms in the original development section, also you will have a larger choice of kernels to play with.
its your choice some people have always loved CM i personally love AOSP but i have used CM in the past but with the N5 the majority of kernel development is with AOSP.
I think you could look into using multirom and test AOSP and CM at the same time but be aware of kernels not supporting CM just read the OP carefully to avoid problems.
i dont know if this helps, if not ill get my coat...
Noob question: Isn't cyanogen based off of AOSP anyway since they're both android?
paranoidsuperhero said:
Noob question: Isn't cyanogen based off of AOSP anyway since they're both android?
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yes http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/About
" So what is the difference between Android and CyanogenMod?
About 1-2 times a year, the vanilla Android operating system (known as AOSP, or the Android Open Source Project) is internally developed, then released to the public, by Google. They provide the source code to anyone who wants to download it. The CyanogenMod community, comprised of unpaid volunteers and enthusiasts from around the world, takes this newest Android code and "ports" it to dozens of new and older (aka "legacy") devices. At the same time, other CyanogenMod developers start adding features, fixes, and improvements that Google didn't include to the CyanogenMod code, which benefits all the devices. The CyanogenMod community has a whole infrastructure for people to build and test experimental versions, report bugs, and contribute back to the source code.
Sometimes features that started in CyanogenMod have appeared in newer version of "official" Android. And every time Android does a new "code dump" of their latest version, CyanogenMod benefits from Google's changes.
In this way, CyanogenMod is one (but not the only) community distribution of what started as vanilla AOSP. The Android community is vibrant, with numerous "modders" and "themers" and "performance enhancers" taking the source code and doing incredible things to it. Generally, there is a spirit of sharing knowledge and empowering people to experiment with controlling their devices, often giving old phones new life, and hopefully having fun in the process. "

Why is CM so important to everyone, when other roms are more stable/more features?

Not bashing CM but why is everyone so inclined to use it when it's not stable compared to other custom roms?
nadmail said:
Not bashing CM but why is everyone so inclined to use it when it's not stable compared to other custom roms?
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because most other roms use cm as base , and if cm isn't stable other roms will be unstable too .
The exception being Moto G stock android + (Xposed + modules), which isn't based off CM. It is extremely stable and bang up to date!
I will never ever ignorantly buy again a Droid which is not (enough) stock Android first and formost. I had several Samsungs (S1,3,4) and a LG Opt.G Pro. Hate hate hate factory UI's since Nexus an now Moto G Lte. It is like raping Android with those UI's not to mention über-bloated unnessary battery drain and lag.
In perspective of this one know's if full CM (or better Slim Roms) support one has good alternatives for a Droid. Official CM support often means open drivers thus decent/good custom rom quality. If custom roms are dependent on blobs for lack of open source drivers their custom roms will be most of the time full of bugs and be crap.
Another perspective of full CM (or better Slim Roms) support is good quality of newest Android versions when for instance a Moto G is end of support and will not receive updates anymore.
So when a Droid has no official CM support (and aviabilty open source drivers) I will never buy it. No matter how cheap. Official CM support will also mean a big choice of good different custom roms.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 (2013), iPad Mini Retina of Moto G Lte
I prefer Paranoid Android. The update scheduled every Wednesday, well organized compared to CM, which updated randomly.
Miracast screen-mirroring is fully functional in CM, but not in Stock. So to fully realize the capability of Moto G's hardware a custom ROM is currently required.
CM Miracast might be one good reason its true. However I have been getting perfect results using an Airplay app on a standard Moto G. Airplay is a well engineered cross platform system which works equally well with Apple, Android and Blackberry devices.
Cm is Best Rom Ever!! Every Android device has Cm, and also used Base Rom to port other Roms... So There is No Competition with Cm... :beer:
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