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How do you handle your battery on a new phone?

Just curious how you handle this, because everybody says something different:
First use: completely charge the battery and then complete discharge, or first complete discharge and the full charge?
I also remember someone telling me that you shouldn't let your battery run completely empty, is that true?
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RotasOpera said:
Just curious how you handle this, because everybody says something different:
First use: completely charge the battery and then complete discharge, or first complete discharge and the full charge?
I also remember someone telling me that you shouldn't let your battery run completely empty, is that true?
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just charge it when it needs it, dont worry about what % its at, and dont worry about running them right down... the phone will power down before it gets to a dangerous level for the battery.
dont leave it plugged in all the time when its sat at 100, dont leave it down at 0 and just forget about it for weeks on end...
thats all you need to know
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in fact... read here, and note the bit about wireless charging! http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256

Just enjoy your phone. Don't make it so difficult.
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mitchdickson said:
Just enjoy your phone. Don't make it so difficult.
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THIS IS XDA...
I suggest you lower your brightness to 0%, turn off the useless 3 cores, underclock to 100mhz, undervolt to 0.1v, turn off wifi/data/bt and be on airplane mode all the time and enjoy your month long battery life.

peachpuff said:
THIS IS XDA...
I suggest you lower your brightness to 0%, turn off the useless 3 cores, underclock to 100mhz, undervolt to 0.1v, turn off wifi/data/bt and be on airplane mode all the time and enjoy your month long battery life.
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Rofl
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dannstarr said:
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[/COLOR]in fact... read here, and note the bit about wireless charging! http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
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I don't buy the bit about wireless charging. I've used my Nexus 4 with an LG wireless charger daily for almost a year now and haven't noticed any side effects with battery drain or overheating. In fact, I'd argue that the Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7 get hotter when plugged in than they do on the wireless charger. I have absolutely no reservations about using the Nexus 5 on my LG wireless charger when it arrives this week.

RotasOpera said:
Just curious how you handle this, because everybody says something different:
First use: completely charge the battery and then complete discharge, or first complete discharge and the full charge?
I also remember someone telling me that you shouldn't let your battery run completely empty, is that true?
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Well the charge and discharge isn't necessary, IIRC that's only for older battery technologies like Ni-Cd batteries (Nickel-Cadmium). On the other side, you probably shouldn't let it discharge all the way since these are Li-Po and it could shorten their lifespan (apparently).

I just plug mine in whenever I'm near a charger.
I'm at work at my desk... its plugged into the charger.
I'm in my car... its plugged into the charger.
I'm at my girls house... its plugged into the charger.
I'm at home replying to xda / android central posts... its plugged into the charger.
This is what I've done with every phone I've had. I only had issues with one battery. I used to have sprint and I had the Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic 4g Touch. After about 8 months the battery got fat (they said it was called a swollen battery at the sprint store) and it kept turning off. They gave me a new battery at the sprint store and I continued with my routine above and never had any other issues with it or any other phones.

drx895 said:
Well the charge and discharge isn't necessary, IIRC that's only for older battery technologies like Ni-Cd batteries (Nickel-Cadmium). On the other side, you probably shouldn't let it discharge all the way since these are Li-Po and it could shorten their lifespan (apparently).
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this is right on both accounts. you dont need to discharge it all the way, and doing so will reduce its life a little. i recently read about lithium poly batteries and the particular blog i was reading talked about running the battery down to 20% then charging it to 80%
i think when i first get the device i will use it down to 0%, charge it up to 100% uninterrupted and then hopefully keep it within that 20/80 range and probably doing a 0-100 refresh on the first of every month

If you guys want to read some in depth material on charging lithium batteries I would recommend reading this. Very informative.

dannstarr said:
dont leave it plugged in all the time when its sat at 100
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That's actually the concerning part when I do overnight charging, it's sat at 100 for quite a while!

Salty Wagyu said:
That's actually the concerning part when I do overnight charging, it's sat at 100 for quite a while!
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It's fine. Phone manufacturers know that people charge their phones overnight. That's why there is a trickle charge mechanism built into all phones nowadays.

u have to calibrate the battery too

Over the last month I've had somewhat of a binge of buying phones from Amazon and returning them for one reason or another and I've noticed that the first 1-3 days of phone ownership are usually the toughest on the phone / battery.
I've owned over the last 2 months (in order):
- S4
- HTC One (x3 as 2 were faulty out the box)
- LG G2
- S4
- N5
I've decided on the N5 as being the best for a number of reasons, but my favourite is price.
I havn't worked out whether it's a combination of new phone = more usage or new phone = requires battery calibration. But the N5 is the only device out the major players that actually made it through day 2 (the day after it came out the box) without a charge midway, infact it's ONLY JUST gone on the charger after some 28 hours of moderate (3 1/2 hours screen on) usage.
My gut feeling is that once you're out the first week just use the damn thing, but the first few charges can make a difference to how quickly the battery feels calibrated. My N5 came with 50% charge out the box, I ran it down to 0% and topped up charge as much as I could the first day. Once I got home I once more let it 0% and then did a full 0-100% recharge. Then my 28 hour experiment started and now I'll just use it as normal, and not worry.

I keep brightness at 50% to enjoy this beauty and I do not give a single **** about the battery.

Charge battery between 20% - 80%
Do not use phone while charging
Unplug charger when battery full

N5 wired or wireless charging?

Hello all. So I will soon be purchasing a Nexus 5 and have never had wireless charging. I will like to use my N5 while it is charging so going wireless will not work in that aspect. So, will taking the N5 off and on the charging pad ruin the battery?

If taking the phone off and on the wireless charger was bad, they wouldnt have made them.

jc0187 said:
Hello all. So I will soon be purchasing a Nexus 5 and have never had wireless charging. I will like to use my N5 while it is charging so going wireless will not work in that aspect. So, will taking the N5 off and on the charging pad ruin the battery?
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No reason why taking it off and putting it back on the charger is an issue, I do it frequently and my Nexus 5 hasn't exploded yet.
In the end it's up to you, convenience of not having to unplug when you use it or not having to pick it up with a cable hanging off it vs. slightly faster charging and a bit less heat (even though its insignificant).

jsgraphicart said:
If taking the phone off and on the wireless charger was bad, they wouldnt have made them.
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Being as the battery is unremovable, I want it to last for at the least, 2 years. I have been told that plugging in and unplugging your phone can't possibly be good for the battery. But with the better technology in batteries coming out, I'm just not sure this applies anymore. Take my Nexus 4. I've had this phone since release and the battery is as good today as it was 2+ years ago. I run my battery until around 15-25% and never interrupt the charge cycle until it is 100% charged. Am I thinking in terms of too much "old fashion"?

jc0187 said:
Being as the battery is unremovable, I want it to last for at the least, 2 years. I have been told that plugging in and unplugging your phone can't possibly be good for the battery. But with the better technology in batteries coming out, I'm just not sure this applies anymore. Take my Nexus 4. I've had this phone since release and the battery is as good today as it was 2+ years ago. I run my battery until around 15-25% and never interrupt the charge cycle until it is 100% charged. Am I thinking in terms of too much "old fashion"?
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Cycles don't matter. You can charge your phone at any percentage remaining and finish charging at whatever percentage and it'll hardly influence your battery's life. Maybe if you were to use the same phone for 10 years, but 2? Hardly.

Lethargy said:
Cycles don't matter. You can charge your phone at any percentage remaining and finish charging at whatever percentage and it'll hardly influence your battery's life. Maybe if you were to use the same phone for 10 years, but 2? Hardly.
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OK, well hey, thank you! I appreciate your help and input.

jc0187 said:
Being as the battery is unremovable, I want it to last for at the least, 2 years. I have been told that plugging in and unplugging your phone can't possibly be good for the battery. But with the better technology in batteries coming out, I'm just not sure this applies anymore. Take my Nexus 4. I've had this phone since release and the battery is as good today as it was 2+ years ago. I run my battery until around 15-25% and never interrupt the charge cycle until it is 100% charged. Am I thinking in terms of too much "old fashion"?
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I've never seen any proof of that. It's a rechargeable battery. It's meant to be charged over and over again. I doubt not charging it at certain percentages will do anything bad to it. I never let my phone get below 50% unless I have no choice. I've never had bad battery issues with any phone.

Depletion time on battery - turbo charged vs normal charger

This is a poll. Again, its your normal day use.
My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.

I've read this assertion elsewhere too - that any quick charged phone depletes battery faster. Actually I charged my battery with my old slow charger last night to see if I'd lose less today. Subjectively (because my usage isn't really consistent), it seems like maybe the phone is discharging more slowly...

Could be a possibility but i have my lg g3 that i used for a year.. Co pairing my faily usage i get about the same hours of ost.
I think hers may be going down faster maybe because of the background apps or the ost shes using? U cant say ur using the same apps unless u tried them both for ur self..

I know this is the case. I have a Tablet and Phone when I charge them with slightly higher power chargers they deplete at a much faster rate. And when I charge with the slower charger they hold a charge much longer.
(Although bare in mind I'm talking about non Quick Charging devices so maybe that plays a huge part lol but I dont use Quick Chargers on them just slightly faster chargers when I have no choice.)
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For those of you that have noticed faster battery loss after using the quick charge have you tried the non quick charger for a night charge than at a random time used the car quick charge charger? Does the time differ at all than?

I think this needs more testing. I need to do the test on my phone alone on 2 consecutive working days.

I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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jmtjr278 said:
I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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A lot of people report the device gets hot when turbo charging. By the nature of the forcing of charge and the small footprint, how could it not get somewhat hot? I do not use fast charging on my Pure due to this.

devsk said:
This is a poll. Again, its your normal day use.
My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.
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Charging fast is bad for the battery, so it only makes sense for her not to last as long.

My wife wears down faster when I quick charge her. I only do it when I need her for short bursts.
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As I understand turbo change. The phone only utilizes turbo charge for the 0-85 or so, then the phone uses standard charging to top the battery off. I have also not noticed any heat while charging using the OEM charger provided out of the box. Believe what you will. I just don't care how you charge your battery.
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Why would the phone discharge faster after a quick charge? Isn't one hundred percent one hundred percent? I'm not flaming, I'm actually curious if there's a difference.

Idk who came up with this, your battery does not drain faster when its charged faster, its not logical.. All turbo charge or any type of quick charge does is supplies more a more faster charging rate based on the volts and amps it puts out. This should not effect your batteries life in anyway.

I can understand the thinking behind this but there is absolutely no way you can test this correctly because you aren't doing the EXACT same usage every day. Something will always differ.

Was this ever an issue with previous Moto X's?

After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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joshw0000 said:
After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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You are making an interesting point here. Anyone else can confirm?
I'm going to do a test myself. Before that I want to add that I've noticed when charging with turbocharger(I've used only the OEM's) the charged capacity tends to go a little over the 3000mha, it becomes something like ~3300mha and after plugging out it still stays like that until 90% where it stats under 3000mha charged.

I charge every night with slow charge. I am at 95% after 1 hour and 45 minutes unplugged. Checked some news a few texts and 2 phone calls. Seems normal to me.

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Battery drain is pretty evident. I am on MM Indian ROM and below are the findings.
1. Used turbo charger to top it up at 100%. Dis-connected the charger. WIFI is enabled and network is 2G (data off). All background app sync is disabled, and the only major applications running in background are firefox and whatsapp.
With medium brightness and browsing, the battery will drop to 97-98% within 5-8 minutes.
2. 100% turbo-charged at night. WIFI enabled/2G network (Data off). Woke up in the morning after 6 hours and battery is good at 98%
WIFI off and network moved to 4G/data and after browsing for 10 minutes, the battery falls to 85%
3. Instead of turbo charger, used Xaiomi MI pad charger (non-turbo) and my experience with #1 and #2 are pretty much the same.

Is it okay to charge overnight ?

Hello guys sorry if it is an innapropriate question but I want to know if it is okay to charge my s8+ over night.. does it damages the phone battery or not ? Thanks

I wouldnt. Doubt it would but would but i find it pointless. It charges pretty quick and wouldnt want to leave it charging for 5+hrs The battery is superb i would quick charge a few mins before bed. Ive gone to bed with 19% and had 17% when i woke the next morning.

ssgunner20 said:
I wouldnt. Doubt it would but would but i find it pointless. It charges pretty quick and wouldnt want to leave it charging for 5+hrs The battery is superb i would quick charge a few mins before bed. Ive gone to bed with 19% and had 17% when i woke the next morning.
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Yeah I know but i work in the morning at 7 thats why . I use it at night leave it at about 10%

Been doing that with my phones for years, haven't had a problem yet.
technically with Lith Ion the less you let it die all the way the better it is for the battery.

albaniandroid said:
Yeah I know but i work in the morning at 7 thats why . I use it at night leave it at about 10%
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It's not going to outright destroy the battery, but definitely better not to keep it on the charger. I cannot speak to your schedule and work environment. I charge mine mid day at work. If your usage is generally the same on a daily basis, just find a spot where you can squeeze in a charge or two during the day.

Always changed overnight for ever I can Remeber. Never faced any issues.
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i leave the phone on the wireless charger. it better for the battery or is the same?

let me clear it..
1st of all in modern battry charging technology overnight charging doesnt harm battery at all as lith ion batt never get overcharged..bcoz once its 100%(max threshold) charging stop and phone use batt powr
after that once it get around 100% ( lower threshold) it start charging again...
STILL I PERSONAL ADVICE TO CHARGE OVERNIGHT WITH FASTCHARGING MODE OFF(((OFFF)).
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lipon625 said:
i leave the phone on the wireless charger. it better for the battery or is the same?
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As far as I know, technically wireless chargers are worse for the battery than a wired. They produce more heat, which technically will have a larger impact on the battery. That being said, I doubt there is any appreciable difference.

xenx said:
As far as I know, technically wireless chargers are worse for the battery than a wired. They produce more heat, which technically will have a larger impact on the battery. That being said, I doubt there is any appreciable difference.
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Good point. Does ths fan cooler on the wireless one prevent as much heat?

The battery retains 95% battery life after a year of normal charging, I wouldn't worry about depreciation. Relax and enjoy the phone

No, you can charge your android overnight as they are smart enough

Boooom! Lol.....just kidding I hope

Stick with the samsung fast charger. I have a lot of other ones, and only the samsung stay cool (fan) and doesn't cycle like the cheap ones do.

Yes, as most have said, you can charge overnight. I have done this every single night for years, on all my flagship devices. Smartphone batteries have technology in them to stop charging when they hit 200% and only trickle charge them. It won't do any damage or won't cause long term battery life issues.
Just turn off fast charge if you're going to charge overnight.

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Good point. Does ths fan cooler on the wireless one prevent as much heat?
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I have the new Samsung wireless fast charger and I'd say it's just a tad warm kinda like the USB-C charging
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As far as I know, technically wireless chargers are worse for the battery than a wired. They produce more heat, which technically will have a larger impact on the battery. That being said, I doubt there is any appreciable difference.
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I've also heard the opposite, as wireless chargers charge slower they put less pressure on the battery which helps it not degrade as fast. How much difference it would make either way I dont know, possibly hardly any.
I do know keeping it between 40-80 is widely regarded as being a lot better for li-ion battery degradation than going to 100% all the time or running it really low. Accubattery for example will say you used about 0.2 battery cycles going from 35% to 80%, but 0.92 battery cycles going from 55% to maximum. They are probably just using that 40-80 rule to work it out, but assuming it is correct, you can see how much effect it has, being nearly 5x more battery cycles despite both being around a 50% charge up.
So charging it overnight will get it to maximum, which isn't great in terms of battery cycles. I have seen a couple of battery apps that I think can manage charging so that it notifies you at 80% to unplug it, but I don't think they can actually stop the charge at 80% if you leave it plugged in (althought I might be wrong on that). Again how much real difference it will make I don't really know, and it probably depends how long you plan on keeping the phone, 1 year then it shouldn't be too much of an issue, 2 years or more and I would probably at least try to keep it between 40-80% when possible.

Ha,
Been charging all my phones overnight.
Been using wireless charging since the note 3 and always please it on the charger when im next to it and not using my phone.
Never had a battery problem

Thanks everyone for their answers ..*let the overnight charging begin*

I used Ampere to check how much current was going to my phone when it was fully charged and it read 0.0 so I believe the phone cuts off the charging function when fully charged. As even on 100% without the "fully charged" portion on, it will still show trickling voltage.
Hope this helps. I also advise turning fast charging off at night just to be safe.

Best battery life tip: don't use the turbo charger!

So, I own this phone for a few weeks now and I got pretty frustrated about the battery life on this phone as I was getting 3 hrs of SOT a best.
Then I decided not to stress the battery so much by charging it with the included turbopower 25 charger all the time, and use my old (5V 2.1A) charger overnight instead. Then I was surprised to see my SOT going up to about 4.5-5hrs.
I did some research about fast charging techonlogy and found out that when you fast charge you typically don't get as much charge into a battery as with a slow charge.
I still use the turbo charger when I am short on time, but using my regular one definetely does add more juice to the battery, thus, helping it last throughout the day.

sleepdownloader said:
So, I own this phone for a few weeks now and I got pretty frustrated about the battery life on this phone as I was getting 3 hrs of SOT a best.
Then I decided not to stress the battery so much by charging it with the included turbopower 25 charger all the time, and use my old (5V 2.1A) charger overnight instead. Then I was surprised to see my SOT going up to about 4.5-5hrs.
I did some research about fast charging techonlogy and found out that when you fast charge you typically don't get as much charge into a battery as with a slow charge.
I still use the turbo charger when I am short on time, but using my regular one definetely does add more juice to the battery, thus, helping it last throughout the day.
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Will definitely try that out. Cuz my usage gets me around 4 -4.5 or even 6 if I read a little. So if this happens for me too I'm gonna get some nice battery life.

Curlyfry2121 said:
Will definitely try that out. Cuz my usage gets me around 4 -4.5 or even 6 if I read a little. So if this happens for me too I'm gonna get some nice battery life.
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Please do report

It doesn't really matter, at least not that significantly... something else is the cause.
Using a turbo charger could change the longevity of the battery, over time, due to heat buildup and breakdown of the internal components due to more stress, but it wouldn't just "get better" switching to standard charger... I charge my phone half the week on a standard charger when at home, and when traveling I use a quick charger. If I am on either at home or on the road for a few weeks at a time and my battery life doesn't change. Well, not because of the charger, but at home I am within 30' of a very high quality WiFi router all the time and essentially never on mobile data, on the road it's the complete opposite.
If you did your researching into Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 (and higher) standards you would see that the issue of batteries not getting a full charge from the original QuickCharge/Fast Charge standard has been remedied with high voltage charging automatically downgraded to "standard" voltage charging during about the last 10% of the charge cycle to allow the battery to cool and take a full charge.
Not doubting your getting better SOT, just your analysis of the reason why are...

acejavelin said:
It doesn't really matter, at least not that significantly... something else is the cause.
Using a turbo charger could change the longevity of the battery, over time, due to heat buildup and breakdown of the internal components due to more stress, but it wouldn't just "get better" switching to standard charger... I charge my phone half the week on a standard charger when at home, and when traveling I use a quick charger. If I am on either at home or on the road for a few weeks at a time and my battery life doesn't change. Well, not because of the charger, but at home I am within 30' of a very high quality WiFi router all the time and essentially never on mobile data, on the road it's the complete opposite.
If you did your researching into Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 (and higher) standards you would see that the issue of batteries not getting a full charge from the original QuickCharge/Fast Charge standard has been remedied with high voltage charging automatically downgraded to "standard" voltage charging during about the last 10% of the charge cycle to allow the battery to cool and take a full charge.
Not doubting your getting better SOT, just your analysis of the reason why are...
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Maybe you're right, I'm still monitoring my battery life on both chargers, and with the same usage, my battery does last longer when charging with the regular 5V one. I'm mostly on 3G network data and rarely use wifi, as I'm mostly only sleeping or eating at home. Maybe there are other factors making this difference, though i'm pretty sure the charger is the only difference for me. Will report if I notice anything else.

I don't see any big difference, I'm also using standard charger over night and quick when I'm in the hurry. Despite charging methods my sot time is very inconsistant from 2,5h to 4h at best.