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which phone is right for me?

hello, i am new to this xda thing and also to android. or i had a android before but that was loooong ago, like android 2.0 or something. i currently have a iphone and i want a android.
just few things:
- i just want to play subway surfers and phone with it. not much more
- i want it to be rootable
- long battery life
- i dont want the screen to break easly. my iphone screen broke not long after i got it.
i hope i posted this in right section.
thanks

First thing: What is your budget?
Also, for breaking screens... The bigger the device, the easier the screen breaks [emoji4]

Stachura5 said:
First thing: What is your budget?
Also, for breaking screens... The bigger the device, the easier the screen breaks [emoji4]
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something like 300 dollar would be nice

d9867eb said:
something like 300 dollar would be nice
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300 dollars... I need to think a bit & see with what I can come out because for now I have no idea [emoji52]
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d9867eb said:
something like 300 dollar would be nice
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Also, do you prefer ANY brand or some specific ones?

Stachura5 said:
300 dollars... I need to think a bit & see with what I can come out because for now I have no idea [emoji52]
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Also, do you prefer ANY brand or some specific ones?
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the last android phone i had was a samsung.
and maybe the long battery time isnt that important but i dont want it to be like my iphone. sometimes it dies even before i get off the bus in the morning.

d9867eb said:
the last android phone i had was a samsung.
and maybe the long battery time isnt that important but i dont want it to be like my iphone. sometimes it dies even before i get off the bus in the morning.
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Well... The best option that I found, with a good performance & battery life for ~$300 is a Xiaomi RedMi Note 2. It's a pretty good phone, that can be rooted (or even comes pre-rooted out of the box). Has a 5" screen & runs on custom Android called MIUI that is loved all around the world [emoji1]

Stachura5 said:
Well... The best option that I found, with a good performance & battery life for ~$300 is a Xiaomi RedMi Note 2. It's a pretty good phone, that can be rooted (or even comes pre-rooted out of the box). Has a 5" screen & runs on custom Android called MIUI that is loved all around the world [emoji1]
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oh thank you very much! and thank you for info about big screen. that phone seems very intresting.

[Q]Pixel 2/2XL Portrait mode and HDR+ on Pixel and Pixel XL possibility ?!?!?

I wonder if the new portrait algorithm and HDR+ will ever be able to make it to the Pixel/Pixel XL? I don't see why it could not be able to do it? From my understanding, the Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL could be using the same camera as the HTC U11 since google bought out HTC's mobile department. Both cameras are 12mp 1.4um PDAF dual pixel sensors.
We all know how wonderful the original Pixel/Pixel XL sensor is so I don't see why google cannot make their new algorithm work. Hopefully a wonderful developer can take the apk and work their magic if google do not release an official update.
I wonder if the same Russian Developers BSG can extract the apk and do his thing like what he did with the modded version he has now. Sucks I can't type in Russian or else I would ask him myself.

me,too.For now there is just a camera apk with motion function

A little bit off topic but I'm wondering if there's any camera specially developed for the pixel on xda?
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I don't see why they cant bring it to pixel one as well the idea and algorithm seems to hint the possibility on pixel one too. read how pixel 2 does portraits here
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cdlixucd said:
me,too.For now there is just a camera apk with motion function
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too bad the next update removed it

Why does everyone think that the portrait mode done on the Pixel 2 is purely software based? It's not, it has special hardware to do it, do people even read?

mukeshsolanki said:
I don't see why they cant bring it to pixel one as well the idea and algorithm seems to hint the possibility on pixel one too. read how pixel 2 does portraits here
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too bad the next update removed it
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U mean it's impossible for pixel one to do that ?
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Nick80835 said:
Why does everyone think that the portrait mode done on the Pixel 2 is purely software based? It's not, it has special hardware to do it, do people even read?
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No. It's too long for me to read it

cdlixucd said:
U mean it's impossible for pixel one to do that ?
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No. It's too long for me to read it
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Same

Nick80835 said:
Same
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Lol

Nick80835 said:
Why does everyone think that the portrait mode done on the Pixel 2 is purely software based? It's not, it has special hardware to do it, do people even read?
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Yes it can't be, but see here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor#List_of_Exmor_RS_sensors
IMO, Pixel 2 using same sensor camera (IMX 362, Dual-pixel, PDAF) hardware phone like HTC U11, ASUS ZenFone 3 Zoom and even Moto G5 Plus.
So, if any dev can ported it software, maybe it can works with other phone with same sensor, support PDAF (dual-pixel).

I heard on a Pixel review video that the Pixel 2 Camera APK can be put onto the pixel... does anyone have a link on where this is done? Thanks!

Jaws4God said:
I heard on a Pixel review video that the Pixel 2 Camera APK can be put onto the pixel... does anyone have a link on where this is done? Thanks!
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Good luck, have fun here's the link: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/

Arju said:
Good luck, have fun here's the link: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
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are you in implying this is difficult or may not be a good idea? I would not want to risk something. thanks!

Jaws4God said:
are you in implying this is difficult or may not be a good idea? I would not want to risk something. thanks!
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No, lol. I was actually not being sarcastic by that comment so sorry if it sounded like that. Maybe I should have said, have fun instead haha. Those are safe but the newest ones are test/beta and there are some stable ones. Just go through the link and read up on changelogs and stuff. I use Arnovas gcam which I prefer. The different devs has different preference so basically you'll have to test them out for yourself and see what you prefer.

Elephone U pro

Anyone interested in starting a forum for Elephone U pro?

I am interested. The phone should be here soon. I am not familiar with these matters, but I sit on xda almost every day

Ciacho132066 said:
I am interested. The phone should be here soon. I am not familiar with these matters, but I sit on xda almost every day
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I ordered the U pro from GearBest. I will post my experience when I get it in a few days (or weeks ).
I usually root my phones but never tried one with a snapdragon. According to some accounts it is more difficult to root the snapdragon than the MTK.
Also the U pro is GMS certified. Which might be another hurdle.

I also ordered a phone with GearBest, I am also waiting and I hope that he will stay with me in a few days. I will share my impressions

Ciacho132066 said:
I also ordered a phone with GearBest, I am also waiting and I hope that he will stay with me in a few days. I will share my impressions
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:good:

htmcrp said:
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Same here, the phone is on its way and I'll need some help to enable additional lte frequencies. What I've read in specs the "global" doesn't have a lot of useful bands for the US.

I order the U pro on Feb. 9 at GearBest and it arrived on Feb 15.
So far I am absolutely thrilled. Everything works. Some functions smoothly others like the finger print scanner can use some improvements.
I read some comments about NFC not working. Particularly with Android pay. But as I do not have that in my country of residence it is not a big issue for me. I tried NFC however but managed to transfer pic files only. It might be a short coming of the phone or my inexperience.
I also can not comment on the camera. For me the picture qualities are good enough because I buy phone with a camera and not a camera with a phone.
The battery charges fast and even with constant use it is sufficient for a hole day. But then I am also no gamer.
Anyone encountered a problem let us know. If you can add a solution to it even better.

ye also receiving today my u pro, would be nice if we could open a forum about it!

Venipa said:
ye also receiving today my u pro, would be nice if we could open a forum about it![/QUOTE
I agree however I do not know and haven't study it yet how to open a forum. Any takers?
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Hi guys.
I think this is great phone. I did make a review on my channel. Please have a look. Also please like and subscribe as that would help me out a ton. Every Sunday I come out with a new review.
Thanks.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1akhorMmdS4

Dynamic_d said:
Hi guys.
I think this is great phone. I did make a review on my channel. Please have a look. Also please like and subscribe as that would help me out a ton. Every Sunday I come out with a new review.
Thanks.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1akhorMmdS4
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Hi, I was watching your review. Great and to the point. I am surprised that this phone is not yet more popular. But as you mentioned the price might be a turn off for many. However so far think I got what I paid for.
Just hope we can get a twrp recovery for this phone soon.
I rooted my previous P9000 and I miss all the fun you have with a rooted phone.

htmcrp said:
I ordered the U pro from GearBest. I will post my experience when I get it in a few days (or weeks ).
I usually root my phones but never tried one with a snapdragon. According to some accounts it is more difficult to root the snapdragon than the MTK.
Also the U pro is GMS certified. Which might be another hurdle.
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i get mine tomorrow
i'm happy to make a twrp recovery and my rom for it soon

Im still waiting for it but after watching some reviews i really want to try the google camera port with this phone and

skeleton1911 said:
i get mine tomorrow
i'm happy to make a twrp recovery and my rom for it soon
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That's great if you can do that. I am just a user. I know how to tweak a phone but I don't know how to write code.

Google cam mod works
I got my phone 2 days ago and it works perfect. Camera needs more software tweeks. I menaged to install google pixel2 cam apk and it helps with low light noise in the original elephone app. Camera mod is for snapdragon 820/821 but it works on elephone. I think they have camera 2API enebeled. There are some hickups in app but just with slowmotion but that is app issue not phone issue.
Overall great phone. Everythink works great and the screen is beautifull. I am waiting for wireless charger to check that feature. Pardon my english.
B.R.
Darko

darkjura said:
I got my phone 2 days ago and it works perfect. Camera needs more software tweeks. I menaged to install google pixel2 cam apk and it helps with low light noise in the original elephone app. Camera mod is for snapdragon 820/821 but it works on elephone. I think they have camera 2API enebeled. There are some hickups in app but just with slowmotion but that is app issue not phone issue.
Overall great phone. Everythink works great and the screen is beautifull. I am waiting for wireless charger to check that feature. Pardon my english.
B.R.
Darko
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1 hour ago i got my u pro.
its a great device. i had the p8000 , p9000 and the s8 of elephone. and this one is a new level from elephone.
more google apps , less chinese apps. nice features on board .
i will play with it in the next hours.
and start to make a twrp recovery for it asap! after that i will make my clean Aosp Mix rom for it. like i did on the other phones.
maybe you know "eragon rom".
cheers
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darkjura said:
I got my phone 2 days ago and it works perfect. Camera needs more software tweeks. I menaged to install google pixel2 cam apk and it helps with low light noise in the original elephone app. Camera mod is for snapdragon 820/821 but it works on elephone. I think they have camera 2API enebeled. There are some hickups in app but just with slowmotion but that is app issue not phone issue.
Overall great phone. Everythink works great and the screen is beautifull. I am waiting for wireless charger to check that feature. Pardon my english.
B.R.
Darko
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By the way. the api2hal is enabeld and gcam for snapdragon 820 up to 835 works ,because the SoC 660 based on the SoC835 . you can say its the little brother...
you can check it yourself with for example. cpu-z app or other cpu info apps from playstore

Thanks for info.
Cheers

skeleton1911 said:
1 hour ago i got my u pro.
its a great device. i had the p8000 , p9000 and the s8 of elephone. and this one is a new level from elephone.
more google apps , less chinese apps. nice features on board .
i will play with it in the next hours.
and start to make a twrp recovery for it asap! after that i will make my clean Aosp Mix rom for it. like i did on the other phones.
maybe you know "eragon rom".
cheers
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By the way. the api2hal is enabeld and gcam for snapdragon 820 up to 835 works ,because the SoC 660 based on the SoC835 . you can say its the little brother...
you can check it yourself with for example. cpu-z app or other cpu info apps from playstore
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hey are you back?
you abandoned the s8?

skeleton1911 said:
i get mine tomorrow
i'm happy to make a twrp recovery and my rom for it soon
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I hope you can share your twrp. I for my part don't mind to spend a few dollars if it works well.
Also would be interested in rooting the U pro with Magisk. I had no problems with rooting the P9000 with superSu and Magisk. Magisk did root it but I never got around the safety net.
Also I did not manage to see the U pro in win explorer. The phone is recognized in the PC but doesn't show in explorer.
Sent from my U_Pro using Tapatalk

Bradco said:
hey are you back?
you abandoned the s8?
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Don't own the s8 anymore. I decided to come back after a few stressful days
Gesendet von meinem U_Pro mit Tapatalk
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htmcrp said:
I hope you can share your twrp. I for my part don't mind to spend a few dollars if it works well.
Also would be interested in rooting the U pro with Magisk. I had no problems with rooting the P9000 with superSu and Magisk. Magisk did root it but I never got around the safety net.
Also I did not manage to see the U pro in win explorer. The phone is recognized in the PC but doesn't show in explorer.
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Connect the phone to pc .
Swipe down the notification bar.
There is a notification with usb etc... Tap on it and switch to mtp media...
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Project Treble

So in some of the news articles a lot of people were complaining that moto have a bad track record when it comes to updates. I'd like to point out that these new phones are releasing with Oreo which means that they have project treble. This makes it far far easier to adapt updates and roms to these phones so even if moto don't bother expect to have all the options! XD

Hi,
First we need to see a method for installing Magisk and a Custom Recovery!
Any news?

These phone always bring lots attention from development so , there is no need to worry about !

manos78 said:
Hi,
First we need to see a method for installing Magisk and a Custom Recovery!
Any news?
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luisaet82 said:
These phone always bring lots attention from development so , there is no need to worry about !
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Certainly! But no one has this phone for now. The G6 Plus should arrive the 7th of may (mine too). But there's no G6 Plus section on XDA at the moment...

smitharro said:
The G6 Plus should arrive the 7th of may (mine too).
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Please, comment about your new Moto G6+ !
I'm thinking on purchase it.

manos78 said:
Please, comment about your new Moto G6+ !
I'm thinking on purchase it.
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It should be arriving today. Once I have it set-up, I'll try to say something useful about it
Edit: the phone arrived. Setting it up now. Until now everything is smooth. The screen is really nice. Speed is great. Pity to see that 'out of the box' 20% of the internal 64 gb is already taken by the OS and it's native apps.
For now I didn't figure out if the OS is 64 bit or 32 bit.
The camera(s) is (are) really awesome! For now no regrets! But the phone still has a locked bootloader and no root. So for now I can't really check everything. But that's only a matter of time...

The OS is 64 bit!

smitharro said:
the phone arrived...
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Great!
Please, can you share info about sensors? It has Compass? NFC?
Another question: As the root/Magisk isn't available at time for this model, can you check almost the Substratum native support with Andromeda (no root required)?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/substratum/andromeda-desktop-clients-release-notes-t3668682
Thank you!

manos78 said:
Great!
Please, can you share info about sensors? It has Compass? NFC?
Another question: As the root/Magisk isn't available at time for this model, can you check almost the Substratum native support with Andromeda (no root required)?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/substratum/andromeda-desktop-clients-release-notes-t3668682
Thank you!
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Compass and NFC work both fine. I didn't deliberately test GPS, but location service works fine. And sorry, I really, really hate substratum! No theming for me. One of the reasons that I buy a 'stock android' phone without a skin.
Only little disappointment for now is the battery life. That was better on my Moto G5 Plus with Validus O, but it still brings me through the day.

Here is the complete list of sensors I found on my Moto G6 Plus!

Hi @smitharro,
You will unlock the bootloader?

manos78 said:
Hi @smitharro,
You will unlock the bootloader?
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Not yet...

Nice phone only battery life could be better. This thing is way more power hungry then my p9 lite.

rwijnhov said:
Nice phone only battery life could be better. This thing is way more power hungry then my p9 lite.
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Hi,
Ummm... Now I have a Moto G5+, and the battery with stock firmware is great. You feel the battery of the Moto G6+ is worse?
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Hi,
More questions for you:
- The XT1926-3 (RETEU) model of Moto G6+, which "code number" has? For example for the Moto G5+ is "potter". It can be "teller"?
- The phone has FM Radio receiver? How it works?
Thank you!

manos78 said:
Hi,
Ummm... Now I have a Moto G5+, and the battery with stock firmware is great. You feel the battery of the Moto G6+ is worse?
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Hi,
More questions for you:
- The XT1926-3 (RETEU) model of Moto G6+, which "code number" has? For example for the Moto G5+ is "potter". It can be "teller"?
- The phone has FM Radio receiver? How it works?
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The battery life was promised as excellent. It's good, but not as good as my Moto G5 Plus with Validus O.
I have the XT1926-3 4/64. Bought in The Netherlands. Codename is 'evert-n' (at least that's what it shows in ADB).
I don't see an FM Radio app, so I assume it doesn't have FM radio. But I usually listen radio via a digital radio app that works online. Way better sound quality and it works without wired headphone!

It does have an fm radio.

I switched from a Nexus 6p to the Moto g6 plus a couple of days ago.
It's a lot cheaper than the 6p was but definitely holds up against it.
It's fast and smooth. Display is very good outdoors in bright sunlight. Its front facing speaker is very loud, camera's are good and the software as it is almost stock Android is also excellent.
Battery life has been great. I am quite the heavy user, and never once with my 6p was I able to get through more then a day. Always ended my days in the 10% with 3h Screen on time.
The Moto g6 has gotten me 2 full days per charge with a screen on time of more then 5 hours. Even with me still downloading apps and installing things.
Only drawback I can find in the whole phone is that it is slippery as hell. A case can easily solve this. But its too bad because she is quite a looker...
This is actually off topic of the project trebble thread, bus as you guys were talking about the 6 plus, I thought I would weigh in.

rwijnhov said:
It does have an fm radio.
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It has native FM Radio App?
Screenshot please...
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Codename is 'evert-n' (at least that's what it shows in ADB).
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Hi,
Extracted from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g6/development/moto-g6-plus-firmware-t3788735#post76484034 it seems that the Moto G6+ is "EVERT".
Regards.

How is the battery compared to the old Z Play? Here I have 14h sot. Maybe reachable just with the new G6 Play, right? I think I keep on Z Play. It's good enough. But G6 Plus seems to be great, too. Can anybody check treble support? It it's supported, it's looking like that. You can test it with this app "Treble Check". Thanks!

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How is the battery compared to the old Z Play? Here I have 14h sot. Maybe reachable just with the new G6 Play, right? I think I keep on Z Play. It's good enough. But G6 Plus seems to be great, too. Can anybody check treble support? It it's supported, it's looking like that. You can test it with this app "Treble Check". Thanks!
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For treble the two are green (treble and seamless system updates)

GPU Turbo

I got it GPU Turbo, because I don’t play games, there’s no difference, well, maybe only an extra couple of thousands were added to the AnTuTu

Don't you have to enable 'Game mode' inside 'Game suite' app for it to work ?
I guess it only really work with 'huawei optimized game'
You're on C00GTB355 ? Which STF device variant ?

oslo83 said:
Don't you have to enable 'Game mode' inside 'Game suite' app for it to work ?
I guess it only really work with 'huawei optimized game'
You're on C00GTB355 ? Which STF device variant ?
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Stock was STF-L19 hw/ru
Now STF-TL cmcc/cn - chinese vendor.

Nice.
So STF-L19 really exist in real world...
6GB RAM ?
128GB ROM ?
What's its LTE/4G bands compatibility ?
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Rebrand should not have changed lte bands capability...

No) 4/64

About your LTE bands supported by hardware, it's not shown on system.
Actually, to test/determine it you have to:
- use android app 'LTE Discovery' when connected to a lte network
- knowing your country lte bands helps
- knowing your carrier supported lte bands helps
- knowing bands available for a determined lte antenne helps
I know differences beetwen ALx0, TL10 and L09 but I'm wondering about L19...
Or did you mean STF-L09 and not L19 ?
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Back to topic, try to add your benchmarking app in gaming suite then benchmark again in gaming mode...

Ok, sorry .My mistake - L09.

ok, so wrong report about L19.
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Back to topic, try to add your benchmarking app in gaming suite then benchmark again in gaming mode...
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151320 / 164810

I checked Firmware Finder
and it looks STF-L09C432B376 Will have GPU Turbo

Isn't PUBG the only game that actually makes any use of it ?

I installed B376 and no Game Suite app on the phone...

Rapid81 said:
I installed B376 and no Game Suite app on the phone...
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https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/huawei/game-suite/game-suite-8-0-1-101-release/game-suite-8-0-1-101-android-apk-download/
It's just an app so this is it

dwhite1972 said:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/huawei/game-suite/game-suite-8-0-1-101-release/game-suite-8-0-1-101-android-apk-download/
It's just an app so this is it
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Thanks, but I don't need it anymore. I reverted back to B371, because I had problems with calls and now my phone is bricked. Even DC-Phoenix can't revive it.

I'm still on B365 hope it's out soon.

How?
How did you get the GPU TURBO update in October is its supposed to be released in November.

Notification came today, but Games app is missing.

maarwaeldini said:
Notification came today, but Games app is missing.
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If games app is missing do a factory reset and it should appear again

I just got the 376 update and it finally includes the GPU Turbo

Any improvement?