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So I have been around the SGS4G for quite some time (at first was my gf's phone, now mine) and coming from the nexus forums to here is like night and day. I see constant begging and badgering to the devs, "when will this be done" or "why didn't you finish the ROM" and just constant bickering but never any real appreciation given. I think people don't realize how much time and effort these devs put into what they do and that it is done on their own free time without obligation or payment of any sort. Yeah you see ics Ports on lots of other phones even the old school ones like G1 and such but that in no way means it is "easy" to do what these guys do. Long story short, we should all be extremely happy and grateful for what we do have and that we have such great development and support from such great people. On behalf of all of the SGS4G community I would like to say thank you for all that you guys do, without you all of our phones would be extremely crappy and not fully functional. Keep up what your doing and don't let anybody tell you that your stuff isn't good enough (afterall they're not the ones doing the work) And one more thing, to all the noobs, dicks and unnapreciative people in our forum, stop with the nonsense and be happy with what you have.
Ok end of rant. Peace.
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So tru man, u kno it would be incredible if everyone was polite, respectful, and thankful to and for all the things these devs and rom builders do... idk just sharing my hope for our community..
I agree the devs don't get much appreciation, but I have to say even completely stock my phone was an excellent fully functional device. It's just so much better with an unnamed ROM (or whatever your personal tastes dictate).
So thank you Samsung for making a good solid device for me to purchase, and thank you devs for giving me so many options to take my device even further above all things apple.
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I think a large number of people would agree with you. The problem is in those members who refuse to read and learn from the forum, and instead they want something "cool", and want others to hold their hand.
I think there is a surprising amount of people who frequent this forum, and who greatly appreciate our devs and their hard work. I've been on XDA since the HTC Magic was released, but I have a low post count. I check the forum everyday, I just never have anything useful or constructive to say, so I choose not to clutter the dev threads.
I really appreciate the work that continues to better this device. Often, I feel like cringing when I see useless/ignorant posts, and it is a shame devs have to deal with it just to release their own work, and for free, and for the public to enjoy.
Thanks to the developers here, your phone is SIGNIFICANTLY better than it was when you took it out of the box. Don't complaints if you have to wait, because you'd still be waiting for Samsung, and you gave THEM your money.
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So tru man, u kno it would be incredible if everyone was polite, respectful, and thankful to and for all the things these devs and rom builders do... idk just sharing my hope for our community..
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I agree the devs don't get much appreciation, but I have to say even completely stock my phone was an excellent fully functional device. It's just so much better with an unnamed ROM (or whatever your personal tastes dictate).
So thank you Samsung for making a good solid device for me to purchase, and thank you devs for giving me so many options to take my device even further above all things apple.
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I agree. This phone is awesome even stock but the one I have never acted right completely stock (you're always bound to find a rotten apple on the tree) but bring able to do more (like run gingerbread before it was even available) is all thanks to these wonderful people.
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Thats why we have the thanks button to cut down on posts like this
On that not Thread Closed
Hi guys,
I'm hereby proposing a new kind of license, the 'Aware' license. This license shall be designed to spread general awareness that the world gains of the work.
The 'Aware' license by implication requests your help in being aware of the developer and if you like his work, then spread the word, and the simple awareness will support him in his endeavors.
'This software is being distributed with the Aware license. Please allow it to be brought to your kind awareness that ....( you can insert anything you want if you don't want to use mine. You can bring attention to a social cause for example).
If you like this work please help your friends become aware of this too.'
Individual licenses of reused components inside continue to apply. You can also have multiple Aware licenses if you want to include mine with yours.
This is intended to help users gain the maximum out of their old devices and reduce consumption in the form of having to buy new devices all the time.
'This software is being distributed with the Aware license. Please allow it to be brought to your kind awareness that buying lesser devices could possibly have a direct positive socio-political impact in some countries where the components are sourced from.
If you like this work please help your friends become aware of this too.'
...
I hope that you and anyone else who can/will pick up where you left off does well. Good luck and I look forward to any future releases!
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I hope that you and anyone else who can/will pick up where you left off does well. Good luck and I look forward to any future releases!
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Thanks for your show of support. I hope I can do well too, with your help.
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Good to see you return, very appreciative of your work and stance. You've opened alot of eyes, and I'm sorry you've been made to feel threatened and attacked for this. I do sincerely pray for an end to this, and the best for you. Look forward to seeing where this goes in the future. Thank you!
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@Androguide.fr, please add this awesome MOD to your awesome PimpMyRom! Maybe you can even take over development?
He's back! , he's back! I hope all is well with you and your friends and family! :thumbup:
Hi I have a problem with crossbreeder on my HTC one x with viperx Rom sense 5 android 4.2.2 basically if I turn my WiFi hotspot on and turn my Screen off I can't wake my phone and have to reset this happens on the latest goodbye edition and the previous version I tried to remove tether boost but that broke my hotspot and I get error when I try to turn it on everything els seems great and my phone seems smoother is there a way to solve this any help would be much appreciated thanks
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Hi I have a problem with crossbreeder on my HTC one x with viperx Rom sense 5 android 4.2.2 basically if I turn my WiFi hotspot on and turn my Screen off I can't wake my phone and have to reset this happens on the latest goodbye edition and the previous version I tried to remove tether boost but that broke my hotspot and I get error when I try to turn it on everything els seems great and my phone seems smoother is there a way to solve this any help would be much appreciated thanks
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chill
@idcrisis welcome back. hope all is well
Good, well written post. All the best.
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Bro... idcrisis... wow im very happy to see you again...
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@idcrisis
Have you considered making this completely open source? I fear that cause you are still updating the OP that you're still going to be open to attack. However if you open source your project you are in effect protected by it's licensing etc.
Then to whom ever pushes the most contributions back to to your repository then you could consider handing it overt to them? If they are a member here then I am sure with the go ahead from XDA admin the thread can be handed over to that member or possible creation of a group or sub group in the forums that could be dedicated to the future developments of crossbreeder? This would ensure no one person owns it. All people own it and it's future can be safe. This would mean that what ever powers that be cannot target you as a developer... they would then have a job on their hands attempting to target many. You bring then a state of anarchy to digital mobile world.
What ever you end up doing with the project, i wish you all the best and remember above all stay safe (stick closely to your family and friends first and foremost)
Take care
Jarmez
Subscribed for future participation.
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@idcrisis
Have you considered making this completely open source? I fear that cause you are still updating the OP that you're still going to be open to attack. However if you open source your project you are in effect protected by it's licensing etc.
Then to whom ever pushes the most contributions back to to your repository then you could consider handing it overt to them? If they are a member here then I am sure with the go ahead from XDA admin the thread can be handed over to that member or possible creation of a group or sub group in the forums that could be dedicated to the future developments of crossbreeder? This would ensure no one person owns it. All people own it and it's future can be safe. This would mean that what ever powers that be cannot target you as a developer... they would then have a job on their hands attempting to target many. You bring then a state of anarchy to digital mobile world.
What ever you end up doing with the project, i wish you all the best and remember above all stay safe (stick closely to your family and friends first and foremost)
Take care
Jarmez
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Hi,
It's open source. The development thread contains the entire source.
The hope is that the Aware license will help. If you can pass this to your friends that the developer of this thread has publicly stated his name in the Aware license so the mere fact that you and your friends are aware of him in large numbers will bring attention to him.
That is the hopeful intent of the Aware license.
@xda admins, if you could hand over the keys to @fivefour with a request to keep my appeals intact in the developer thread OP ( maybe collapse it inside a 'Show content') and change everything else there as he pleases and leave this general thread OP as is ( with any of his additions below ) that would be great.
Cheers and goodbye once again.
To the good, stay good.
After I get my new laptop I'd like to take a gander at the source and see what I can do to pitch in I personally love this mod and refuse to let it die someone wants to make threats I say come say them to the barrel of my Taurus Judge.
With that said I should have a new laptop and phone to play on around Dec 10-15ish...take care @idcrisis I am sending you one last pm in a sec you should look at
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I'm so sorry you had to go through that nightmare. I really am. I wonder what kind of people go so low to threat people like that.
Also, my condolences for your friend. You have written a great mod, your legacy cannot be touched. Thank you so much, once again.
About your decision, it starts with you're free to do whatever you want without being judged. With that said, life is priceless.
The best of luck for you my friend.
It will be a while before I'm fully up on his scripts but priority one is the much needed Android app to ensure CrossBreeder is more accessible and user friendly. The sources to the app and any changes I make will end up on Github for all to participate.
I recently moved and my PC is currently in storage, it will be a few days before I'm able to begin work on the app.
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fivefour said:
It will be a while before I'm fully up on his scripts but priority one is the much needed Android app to ensure CrossBreeder is more accessible and user friendly. The sources to the app and any changes I make will end up on Github for all to participate.
I recently moved and my PC is currently in storage, it will be a few days before I'm able to begin work on the app.
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can't wait to see a gui!!
fivefour said:
It will be a while before I'm fully up on his scripts but priority one is the much needed Android app to ensure CrossBreeder is more accessible and user friendly. The sources to the app and any changes I make will end up on Github for all to participate.
I recently moved and my PC is currently in storage, it will be a few days before I'm able to begin work on the app.
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Be more than happy to lend a hand if you need one.
smeejaytee said:
Hi I have a problem with crossbreeder on my HTC one x with viperx Rom sense 5 android 4.2.2 basically if I turn my WiFi hotspot on and turn my Screen off I can't wake my phone and have to reset this happens on the latest goodbye edition and the previous version I tried to remove tether boost but that broke my hotspot and I get error when I try to turn it on everything els seems great and my phone seems smoother is there a way to solve this any help would be much appreciated thanks
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Can anyone help with this please
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INTRODUCTION
I am starting this forum in hope of educating my readers about ROM development according to my experiences. Further, I will highlight what is the usual developers' thought process before they decide to build a ROM for a specific device. The reasons why they usually choose a certain device or why they prefer one device over another would also be stated briefly. I also have intention of looking into ways how we can speed up ROM productions for Xperia L and what you can do to play your part.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION FOR NO CUSTOM ROMS EVEN AFTER 7 MONTHS BUT THIS DOESNOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO SPAM
I am sure many of you must be really disappointed by the lack of development for Xperia L and I know this must be frustrating when we see other devices are getting ROMS so quickly. However, sad to put this into writing that many users have indulge into SPAMMING and I have not seen a more unorganised forum at XDA for a while. I know many are too excited when they find a little about any OTA/ Custom ROM and sharing such news is fully justified after it seems plausible. However, it's beyond my logic & thinking why the forums are SPAMMED for any little information they might find anywhere regardless of their sources or if it has been ALREADY POSTED. I reckon many of these threads could have been avoided by simply searching in the forum.
ROM DEVELOPMENT
I can assure you that many develoeprs are working very hard to PORT and develop different ROMS for Xperia L. However, the reason we can not see any CUSTOM roms till yet is due to complicated nature of Xperia L itself.
Usually developers prefer a device which is :
1. Easy to work with, less complicated to code with or in other terms DEVELOPER friendly. For example, for a while I had a real issue with HTC phones as they have too many things to work with like Bootloader, S Lock, Radios, Hboot version etc while in Nexus devices you only need to unlock your device with one fastboot command. That's all and you are ready to flash ROMs.
2. Personal preference of Device. This simply means that we all have different tastes and thus we choose different devices. A certain developer might only work for a certain brand while other might work with few brands. This has nothing to do with anything but a personal choice.
3. A device that promises reward in terms of money/self satisfaction. Developers usually go for devices which have most active users so if their intention is also to get some money out of it in terms of donation, this will work well with devices which are more in number.
4. Knowledge about a certain brand more than another.
5. MONEY TO BUY A CERTAIN DEVICE/DEVICES. Suppose a developer wants to make ROMS for Xperia L/ SP/Z and Xperia U. Yet he only has 500 dollars to choose from. He then will have to make a choice between devices and this will eventually mean that not all of the devices get the same treatment. Money is the most decisive factor why a developer doesnot chose your device but rather another. For example purpose only, if I have to choose between devices, I might prefer SP over Xperia L as I can see more future of SP than Xperia L(I might be wrong).
SOME REQUESTS
Please STOP bugging developers by trivial questions. Just think how many other people ask the same question and it gets very frustrating to actually work on the device itself.
Every developer has a LIFE apart from developing ROMs. They also have a family, school, work, hobbies, bad days and so much like us. So they will do it when they feel like doing it. Just sit back and relax. Enjoy your device until developer releases the ROM for your device. Asking a REASONABLE question seems plausible but asking same questions/useless questions without using brains is just STUPID. Kindly refrain from that.
Ubberlaggydarwin has taken the initiative to work on CyanogenMod and I believe the best thing now is to be patient. Let him concentrate. Spamming and spamming again won't help really. I saw the other posts from other CM developers who clearly stated that CM team do not HAVE xperia L till yet to start working on CM and people have started SPAMMING developers, their twitters, blogs and accounts. That's really sad. You can discuss on the forum what you think about it but IRKING developers isnot really cool.
The reason of this forum is to work as a team and I am afraid we havenot been really good at it till now and moderators have to CLOSE/DELETE forums.
If you are wondering why Xperia L isnot getting many CUSTOM ROMS is that it is a complicated device and small developers are having a tough job working on it. Thus, many developers who could easily port a ROM or build one haven't been successful as their are many stumbling blocks to work with.
WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP DEVELOPERS AND SEE CUSTOM ROMS.
1. Search the form first and look for answers. DON'T start new posts/questions/threads when it is ALREADY mentioned in some other section.
2. STOP PMing/SPAMING developers but rather ask a question WHICH havenot been asked before in the forum. Do not engage in the habit of making a new forum for everything. Try to keep threads as little as possible.
3. Follow developers and see what they have updated about on their official twitter,facebook,etc rather than bugging them on different forums/social websites.
4 DONATE THEM. DONATE THEM . DONATE THEM!
The amount of efforts they put, sitting for hours in front of their PCs and I know how frustrating it gets when you try to run commands and everything seems to work yet you can not boot up your ROM. And worse, you can not find WHY really. Just a change in line in build.prop results in failure of ROM to boot up and specially working from source to build ROM is really really tough. The best thing you can do is being supportive and patient !
A ROM development requires not just EXCESSIVE amount of hardwork, time, energy and dedication but also they need MONEY to actually buy devices and try it on. They are happy and encouraged to keep on developing ROMs when they see their efforts are not wasted and they are rewarded and respected for what they do.
MY SUGGESTION
An easy way to encourage the developers to work for Xperia L is by donations. Give them donations to buy a specific device. In our case, we can agree on how much we all can donate. After it is learnt how many devices can be bought with donations, we can send the amount to different developers to buy Xperia L.
I give you the opportunity to write on this forum who wants to donate and whom they trust to do this job. Specific developers can be chosen.
You can discuss about why you chose a certain developer and how much he can offer. In the end, voting should be done between users who are willing to donate so we can agree who will be the best men to do this job (of developing ROMs).
I am NOT asking for any donations myself (I have no donation bar in my account) or no one has asked me to start this post.
I will appreciate that people do not SPAM THIS THREAD.
ONLY put really important points or if you are willing to donate or want to make a valid point. I will add the names and the amount any user wishes to donate so we can track how much have been donated in theory before we can actually take the next step.
Xperia L costs around US $235 in USA, GBP 217 in the UK. So even if 50 people donate around 5-7 dollars (less than one hour of your wage), we can have many ROMS and support for our device.
I donot have a paypal account and I will ask my bank if I can make transactions to PAYPAL to tell you that I am the first person to take initiative of my theory.
UPDATE : STARTED A FORUM IN DEVELOPMENT SECTION TO FIND DEVELOPERS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47791745#post47791745
Kindly show your support and write on the thread now and then so most people can see the thread and we can reach more developers.
UPDATES :
UPDATE 24/11/2013:
Most developers have still not given any positive response till yet and I can only disappoint you that I do not see any CUSTOM development until January. No CM brewing officially and the device added on CM is just for reference. uberlaggydarwin is interested but he doesnot have the device till yet.
UPDATE 26/11/2013
I am in talks with few more developers who have shown interest in Xperia L. I am trying my best to get developers for your device!
I hope to give you good news soon. Currently I am trying to hunt down DOOMLORD who is also very experienced developer at XDA.
Uberlaggydarwin is close to buy an Xperia L and he seems to finish Xperia L development before January if donations are made by then in time. I have confirmed. Support him by donations.Check third post
UPDATE 29/11/2013
Uberlaggydarwin is still in short of money to buy Xperia L. He is still waiting for more donations made via Paypal or Google Play. Kindly Donate to him in case you want to speed up development.
UPDATE 1/12/2013
Uberlaggydarwin is having exams till wednesday. He will be then be having some holidays. If he can get donations, he will buy the phone and start working on it. He also told me that he will add few dollars himself if donations reach to a certain level.
UPDATE 3/12/2013
Uberlaggydarwin is going to make a PROPER STABLE ROM and he will strive hard to do it ! He is only interested in development and thus I believe I might be doing all the User support for CM for him! Anyone who wants to volunteer is highly appreciated.
UPDATE 7/12/2013
Uberlaggy darwin is going to buy the device soon and he has got the money to buy the device. Well, I believe the reason why I started this forum has been accomplished. This wouldnot be updated anymore and If in case required, I will again start updating this thread. Thank You so much for your donations and working as a team to make it possible for uberlaggydarwin to buy the device. Remember he has put his own 140 dollars into the device. If you are happy with his work and appreciate the CM when it comes available, you can continue donating to him.
UPDATE 7/12/2013
Ubberlaggydarwin said, he will release CAF kernel within three days when he gets the device!
He is very enthusiastic about working CM on Xperia L.
WANT DETAILED UPDATES : CHECK THEM HERE
DEVELOPERS WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR XPERIA L
@uberlaggydarwin
You can support him by buying his apps on google play. They are for 0.99, 2.74 and 4.56. Together they add up to 8.29 in dollars
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uberlaggydarwin.supportkangaroohacker
You can also donate via PayPal by clicking this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/donatetome.php?u=5314976
PayPal address ([email protected])
DONATIONS MADE BY
A big round of applause who have made possible for CM to be made possible on Xperia L:
@Voltal
@LaZiODROID
@utsavkoju
These are people who have donated to the best of my knowledge, if you think your name should be here. PM me !
Thanking them is least you can do!
Reserved for other important points/suggestions/feedback
Buddy... I can ensure you that you wrote every word I´d like to have written!!
A very big thanks for you... and I hope everyone here read, understand and feel the real purpose behind those words.
Simply awesome!! Hats off!!!
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@adfad666
@uberlaggydarwin
Thanks
Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.
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Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.
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Same here, I'm coming from Neo V(Xperia 2011)there have really good development. nAa make 3.4 kernel for it and one great dev(mike) bring cm10.1/2 and now he boot cm11...
I saw the spec and the price of this device, but I forgot to search and see what development going here...But I'm optimistic for this device and I think that if we get Cm10.1/2/11 development will start with full speed.
And just to tell you,this in the Cm site is just placeholder and uberlaggydarwin start to work on cm10.1 for our device, but he don't have the device I want to help him with donate but I don't have a credit card...Will try to find someone to donate from me.
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if possible can u add two names >
@adfad666
@uberlaggydarwin
Thanks
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steeserious said:
Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.
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Same here, I'm coming from Neo V(Xperia 2011)there have really good development. nAa make 3.4 kernel for it and one great dev(mike) bring cm10.1/2 and now he boot cm11...
I saw the spec and the price of this device, but I forgot to search and see what development going here...But I'm optimistic for this device and I think that if we get Cm10.1/2/11 development will start with full speed.
And just to tell you,this in the Cm site is just placeholder and uberlaggydarwin start to work on cm10.1 for our device, but he don't have the device I want to help him with donate but I don't have a credit card...Will try to find someone to donate from me.
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I am in contact with uberlaggydarwin and he still hasnot got the device. He has worked a bit for our device using his friend phone but that's not enough. He told me that he is seriously considering CM for Xperia L and he will tell me about it in a day or two. Also, he got exams next week so it wouldnot surprise me that if he takes his time to reply back. Kindly do not PM him or quote him unless required as I am in direct talks with him.
adfad666 is a well known developer but I am not sure if he is interested in development for Xperia L. Can you ask him if he is interested in development for Xperia L. If suppose he is, we can give him incentives to work for our device. Just see what he says about it.
As far as CM is concerned, they still havenot got the device yet. And they NEVER announce support for any device until they have made CM already. It's really surprising as I have never seen CM add a device with no build but I hope it means good news for Xperia L.
About donations, it's not that we are doing a FAVOUR to developers but simply incentives / ways to have enough money to buy the device. That's it. Developers need devices until they can actually make the ROMS. In real, they are the ones who are helping us!
You can support developers by buying their apps on google play,however, I am not providing links until a developer confirms he is serious about Xperia L.
I can not tell you more at this point as some things need to be sorted out between developers and it is just in "suggestion phase"
We only need one CUSTOM rom like CM and I am sure, many small developers will base their ROMS on it. So we will soon have a lot of custom ROMS.
Around 4 people have asked for alternative ways to donate apart from paypal/credit card. If any one has suggestions, do write them.
Update:
I got exam this monday and tuesday so I might not write back soon
Update 2 : started a forum. Link in the first post. Check it out and support the thread.
@serajr
@naitik2012
@steeserious
@siankatabg
I am sorry to break this disappoint you
MAJOR UPDATE :
I hate to disappoint you all but it seems that we won't see any custom ROM till the end of January unless we find a developer. I have talked to my sources and I can only break to you this news.There is nothing brewing at the moment in official CM either.
However it's very possible that someone is working on a Rom whom I don't know.
uberlaggydarwin is developer from Xperia SP and he is interested. He got a bootable CM and done quite a work but he hasnot got the device itself.
He had been working on the device of his friend which wouldnot be available to him any more. I am not sure what happens next and I will update you if i have any more updates.
Kindly do not ask about my sources as I simply can't.
Unless we attract any other developer, we are on our own. So if anyone can help or reach developers, kindly share.
The main reason for no real roms for Xperia L is develoeprs not ready to buy this device.
UPDATE 26/11/2013
I am in talks with few more developers who have shown interest in Xperia L. I am trying my best to get developers for your device!
I will give you good news soon. Currently I am trying to hunt down DOOMLORD who is also very experienced developer at XDA. I am also in talks with others but it's very early to say anything till yet. I am hoping to get a reply from DoomLord by tomorrow!
Uberlaggydarwin :Just wanted to give a big shoutout/thanks to Stefan Ernst (steeserious?) from Germany and Jon Nightingale from Australia (don't know your alias mate )
They donated a generous amount to buy me a Xperia L so my Xperia L followers can get CM on their devices too and all the others who bought my app
I'm not there yet though. Let's see if we can sort out something by the end of December
You all rock!
Can't wait to be rocking an AOSP rom on my device with you.
He is still short on donations !
UPDATE 29/11/13
I had talks with uberlaggydarwin and he is still short on cash to buy Xperia L device. He is serious about Xperia L if you can help him buy the device. Also, we talked about how we can send him donations apart from his paypal & google play apps. Check third post of this thread to donate. Moreover, if you can not donate yourself, you can ask someone to donate via their paypal/bank account and you can hand them cash. 5 to 10 dollars isnot a big deal. You spend that amount of money on fast food. Come On guys!!!
Other developers that I have talked with havenot given any positive response so till now we only have hope of uberlaggydarwin!
Currently uberlaggydarwin has got exams so I might not be able to reach uberlaggydarwin
i would like to port ROM existenZ rom(Niaboc79) ,, now what i just need is kernel with working CWM :'(
Xenodrome_ said:
i would like to port ROM existenZ rom(Niaboc79) ,, now what i just need is kernel with working CWM :'(
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There is a kernel with working CWM for 4.2.2 ,, Just without WiFi Working
Here it is : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2499061&page=3
serajr said:
Buddy... I can ensure you that you wrote every word I´d like to have written!!
A very big thanks for you... and I hope everyone here read, understand and feel the real purpose behind those words.
Simply awesome!! Hats off!!!
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naitik2012 said:
if possible can u add two names >
@adfad666
@uberlaggydarwin
Thanks
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steeserious said:
Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.
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siankatabg said:
Same here, I'm coming from Neo V(Xperia 2011)there have really good development. nAa make 3.4 kernel for it and one great dev(mike) bring cm10.1/2 and now he boot cm11...
I saw the spec and the price of this device, but I forgot to search and see what development going here...But I'm optimistic for this device and I think that if we get Cm10.1/2/11 development will start with full speed.
And just to tell you,this in the Cm site is just placeholder and uberlaggydarwin start to work on cm10.1 for our device, but he don't have the device I want to help him with donate but I don't have a credit card...Will try to find someone to donate from me.
Sent from my C2105 using xda app-developers app
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Xenodrome_ said:
i would like to port ROM existenZ rom(Niaboc79) ,, now what i just need is kernel with working CWM :'(
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Sparksys said:
There is a kernel with working CWM for 4.2.2 ,, Just without WiFi Working
Here it is : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2499061&page=3
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I have started Updating about Xperia L development on second post. Do check it regularly. I need your support in case any developer is ready to help us. Kindly if you can donate or are ready to use device for test versions and submit logs to developers, that be great!
Even if you can not do any of the above, you can suggest opinions and think of ways to be helpful.
you might wanna check uberlaggydarwin's Google+, cm might not be too far away.
steeserious said:
you might wanna check uberlaggydarwin's Google+, cm might not be too far away.
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I am in direct talks with him. Thank you !
Good news from Brinly Taylor
Just wanted to give a big shoutout/thanks to steeserious from Germany and Jon Nightingale from Australia (don't know your alias mate )
They donated a generous amount to buy me a Xperia L so my Xperia L followers can get CM on their devices too and all the others who bought my app
I'm not there yet though. Let's see if we can sort out something by the end of november
You all rock!
Can't wait to be rocking an AOSP rom on my device with you.
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ileeba7 said:
Good news from Brinly Taylor
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Its already been mentioned in updates. Kindly don't rewrite something already present or if you want to donate or you have something really important to share.
I just donated U$5, may not be much, but i hope it helps a little bit. After 6/12 i will know how much i have free from my budget of December.
Also donated!
Hola guys I'm semi-new in xda in the sense that i registered in a lot time ago (as you can easly see xD ) but i never have time to be present in various discussions.. so i limited to observe you only (like a 007 under cover xD ahaha) but i can't wait anymore and, because i can't post anything until 10 posts, i want to thank everyone is doing his best to improve our device for the moment my thanksgiving are general because i'm afraid to forget someone, but when I reach the prefixed number of posts i thank you personally if you continue in the way like you're doing in this moment our device becomes as great as its cousin
However, let's focus on the title of 3d: i wanna ask you if is there any possibility to port Ububntu on our device. I'm mainly referring to hardware's aspects in the waiting that some great developer can do this, eventually
10x to everyone in advance
Sent from my S2+
if ubuntu touch ported you wont use it because just wifi works no ril no bluetooth ..long list it is stil in devlopment ... see ubuntu web site ..
Ookay thanks a lot however i hope these problems will be fix soon because I really want to try this o.s. (that I consider wonderful on desks versions) on a mobile device. Btw.. again thank you
Sent from my S2+
Folks,
for those who may or may not know, my name is sooti, i've been a dev here building Android since 2012. I've build roms for galaxy s1, s2, s5, LG G3, Nexus 10 and more. In all of the device communities I've worked in, the majority of devs were nice, caring and were open to sharing the knowledge and helping out if needed, and I was always willing to do the same and have on many occasions. I have never hidden my work and have always immediately committed my solutions to github to help others develop faster and help the community grow, but since I got my Xiaomi A1 I've met a whole new brand of developers, who only care about getting credit and glory, have no interest in helping their fellow devs and even if and when they do, they force them to keep the code to themselves as well.
I will not name any names, but I think you can guess who, I am part of a team of devs, TEAM OREO, who have been working on our own to bring a fully working dt to the public and keep it open source, while another group has a fully working open source and is insisting on keeping the device tree to themselves. and while this doesn't violate Android rules per say, it violates the very spirit of AOSP and of XDA more then anything. We may understand companies like Xiaomi, Samsung, LG etc not sharing the rest of their source code due to monetary concerns but here at xda none of us are getting paid for our time, we are all working together to bring great projects to life for free for all to enjoy and modify and build new roms.
It really saddens me to see this and hope this is limited to this device only, although I suspect there may be some other XIaomi devices with the same bad devs.
My team and I will continue to work hard to bring you great roms and 100% open source so that you to can contribute and help this community grow.
We are currently looking for devs to help us get Camera working, which is the only thing missing, please contact me via PM and we will add you to our telegram group.
I hope to see better things in the future,
viva open source!
Sooti,
XDA developer and android enthusiast
We are also looking for testers. If you are interested, please ping me on Telegram. Make sure you know basic stuffs like taking logcat n all ?.
Regards,
#TEAMOREO
Thanks for all the work you have done for the community. I'm proud of the work TEAM OREO is bringing for the Mi A1 community and as a contributor to open source myself, I wish every other developer for the device would follow suit. I know this is just the beginning of the development phase of the device but I'm sure that other developers that will work on the phone will probably see your post and agree wholeheartedly. As a community, we must work together. There's no doubt that some people want all the praise and thanks from everyone. That's not how open source works. We aim to provide enhancements to our devices that the manufacturers are not able to give. And helping provide open trees for all is key.
I'm not giving up on the community. But I really want it to flourish. Thanks for all of your help in making this device one of the best I've ever owned.
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi A1 using XDA Labs
It's the same story, again and again...
It's like the www. Today is only money.
It's like the way the world is going.
Well it's not the first time i have seen this private stuff nature.... i had it in my old device ...
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Yes I agree truly
TeamOreo will sure make bugless ROM soon
I have never seen such developers in my life who worked at late night to fix bugs @sooti @kunalshah @pranavbedre these guys worked very hard to bring initial Oreo
Hope this team gonna rock one day
Keep going and let's hope there's a valid reason behind for not releasing DT as of now.Looking forward for more ROMs TeamOreo!
@sooti
You and team oreo are here, so it's not so bad!
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Point made, but this thread has only one direction of travel on it and its not a good one.
Thread re-opened at OP request.
However, i have cleaned the thread and if this thread goes the way i expect i will close it for good.
Greg
You guys have no rights to ask for the source when you won't contribute anything to the source. All you guys are going to do is use it for other ROMs which will end up having the same bugs as the current LOS builds. So here's my two cents, wait till everything is stable, SELinux enforcing and then the source will be available to the public as Abhishek has said.
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You guys have no rights to ask for the source when you won't contribute anything to the source. All you guys are going to do is use it for other ROMs which will end up having the same bugs as the current LOS builds. So here's my two cents, wait till everything is stable, SELinux enforcing and then the source will be available to the public as Abhishek has said.
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Give them some respect dude...they aren't some amateurs trying to copy form some elses work they have already published their tree and where is tree of los15.1 ?
All other roms have their trees published which helps other developers to fix the bugs and help the rom become stable.but if every one wants to keep the glory and credit for themselves the community will get worser and worser
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Give them some respect dude...they aren't some amateurs trying to copy form some elses work they have already published their tree and where is tree of los15.1 ?
All other roms have their trees published which helps other developers to fix the bugs and help the rom become stable.but if every one wants to keep the glory and credit for themselves the community will get worser and worser
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This.
And if someones device tree isnt ready, why post the rom at all? And your welcome to look at my xda profile, if you think I haven't contributed... Your dead wring my friend
Sorry if my words have hurt you in anyway. I just don't want this community to end .
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Sorry if my words have hurt you in anyway. I just don't want this community to end .
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Your ok, I was actually talking to the guys before you
I came over from the axon 7 forums about a week ago. i have been on the boards and dealing with android since the days of the logitech review {honeycomb i believe}. my take on the maturity here contravenes the gungho nature I have generally observed on this message board. it reminds me of what I imagine a 50 cent water army would act like when not in the office. i normally just sit in the back and observe read and learn as I go but since this is turning into group conflict it is my place to speak up. Sooti, guys I am with you in seeing the same sad state of affaira. this is definately not how civilization is built. but worse case scenario if spoilers at the table opt for self-interest over interest of the community, thereby causing entropy and disintigration, you will be able to find me over on the cyrillic android board with base in .ru they have good comraderie generally and thats across device forums as far as I can observe.
Thanks for bringing that up front straight. I came over as a user from Galaxy S devices in the hope that the MI A1 would flourish on a free and open (source) community spirit. Unfortunately things are even worse here. I don't have the time to contribute as a developer but I'd like you guys to know that I'm very thankful for your team's openess and your effort to bring true open source to this device and not let personal intrests and politics get in the way.
sooti said:
Folks,
for those who may or may not know, my name is sooti, i've been a dev here building Android since 2012. I've build roms for galaxy s1, s2, s5, LG G3, Nexus 10 and more. In all of the device communities I've worked in, the majority of devs were nice, caring and were open to sharing the knowledge and helping out if needed, and I was always willing to do the same and have on many occasions. I have never hidden my work and have always immediately committed my solutions to github to help others develop faster and help the community grow, but since I got my Xiaomi A1 I've met a whole new brand of developers, who only care about getting credit and glory, have no interest in helping their fellow devs and even if and when they do, they force them to keep the code to themselves as well.
I will not name any names, but I think you can guess who, I am part of a team of devs, TEAM OREO, who have been working on our own to bring a fully working dt to the public and keep it open source, while another group has a fully working open source and is insisting on keeping the device tree to themselves. and while this doesn't violate Android rules per say, it violates the very spirit of AOSP and of XDA more then anything. We may understand companies like Xiaomi, Samsung, LG etc not sharing the rest of their source code due to monetary concerns but here at xda none of us are getting paid for our time, we are all working together to bring great projects to life for free for all to enjoy and modify and build new roms.
It really saddens me to see this and hope this is limited to this device only, although I suspect there may be some other XIaomi devices with the same bad devs.
My team and I will continue to work hard to bring you great roms and 100% open source so that you to can contribute and help this community grow.
We are currently looking for devs to help us get Camera working, which is the only thing missing, please contact me via PM and we will add you to our telegram group.
I hope to see better things in the future,
viva open source!
Sooti,
XDA developer and android enthusiast
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Hey I've known @abhishek987 from Redmi Note 3 forums and he's contributed greatly to LOS for the device and developed one of the most stable ROM(Ressurection Remix) on RN3.
So give him some time, like said earlier he's holding it until the bugs are ironed out. So many ROM threads already created with the same bugs, what's the point.
He's working hard on our device and not asking for any money. Give him space
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Hey I've known @abhishek987 from Redmi Note 3 forums and he's contributed greatly to LOS for the device and developed one of the most stable ROM(Ressurection Remix) on RN3.
So give him some time, like said earlier he's holding it until the bugs are ironed out. So many ROM threads already created with the same bugs, what's the point.
He's working hard on our device and not asking for any money. Give him space
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And not letting the other devs to work in the tree? So two groups doing the same job twice? Do you find any logic in it?
akrai said:
And not letting the other devs to work in the tree? So two groups doing the same job twice? Do you find any logic in it?
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True. I thought the same just after posting. Well anyway, lets hope for good