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I am trying my hardest to give back to the community that got me started in the first place...
But lately, I am burned out by the endless complains and repetitions of same questions / answers which I have already stated clearly in my OPs....
Anyways... going to take a break from all this for a while...
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all i can say is thanks for everything you have givin us!!! i love your work and the fact that you are so hands on with all of us, even the people that are too lazy to read and learn before they ask the same effin questions over and over again... but you have to remember, that you are doing this for free and take time for number 1, YOU!!! i have no complaints about a break from the nonestop dev'ing you have been giving to us, i will be looking forward to your comeback...
btw, did ya get my donation?
its all cool faux go take a break everyone needs one every once in a while to get some motivation back so thanks for all the goodness and block all the complainers out. they just whinny little kids anyways. if we could we would donate for vacation for you
No sweat, everybody needs some off time. Those complaints and repetitive questions are unfortunately unavoidable because not everyone here is as technically/technologically inclined as the rest. Those of us who are truly appreciate your work and will miss you until you come back.
Take your time. I love your kernels I can wait. To bad alot of people don't bother reading.
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Faux, love all the work you do! Never had any issues with any of your kernels/ROMS and everything runs so smooth. Its understandable to take a break every once in a while to stay sane. Just dont over-do it and take a load off. Hope you enjoy your 'you time' and wish the best. Cant wait to see you back!
take a break Faux. Don't let it get to you
You deserve it. Thanks for the work you have done. Hope to see you back soon.
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Kinda been expecting this. You were a machine.
If you don't come back I hope the work you put in helps you in future endeavors.
I'll broken record what everyone has already said....what you've done in the past month or so is insane, you def deserve a break. Thanks a ton for all your work.
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I think the reasons you've already pointed out are why we loose some devs and others form groups. I think it's great that you've joined up with Team Royal, but at the same time I think the group may be taking on too much for it's size. What are there now six team royal roms? I don't know what things look like behind the scenes but that seems like a lot in such a short amount of time. At any rate you guys need a PR front man to take care of the *****ing and moaning and redundant questions while you do what the rest of us can't. Not that I'm volunteering, sorry I just can't spare the time.
Being a server at a restuarant I can kinda relate to this. The more tables your asigned to, the more your brain has to work lol, and also u kinda get stressed out because u have a person over here who complained about thier food and another here crying about not having enough ice in their soda lol. Even if your doing the best u can
you and team royal work hard no doubt about that, maybe their could be an option in the front page of each forum where the main questions about specific roms are already answerd. Idk just a thought
But mainly the brain does need rest at times!!!!!!!!! Especialy at a high level velocity u guys go on lol.... Devs are awesome, god bless
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Being a server at a restuarant I can kinda relate to this. The more tables your asigned to, the more your brain has to work lol, and also u kinda get stressed out because u have a person over here who complained about thier food and another here crying about not having enough ice in their soda lol. Even if your doing the best u can
you and team royal work hard no doubt about that, maybe their could be an option in the front page of each forum where the main questions about specific roms are already answerd. Idk just a thought
But mainly the brain does need rest at times!!!!!!!!! Especialy at a high level velocity u guys go on lol.... Devs are awesome, god bless
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Gimme mah steak dinner. I wont it naow!
@OP -
Do what ever it takes man, I cant wait to have my PayPal unblocked so I can start donating again!(they found out I was underage lol).
You deserve a break bro. You have MORE than contributed to the community.
Your work is a standing beacon and amazing.
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You really do deserve a break, you've put a whole lot of time and effort into put work.
Enjoy your break
Thanks for all your hard work you will be missed enjoy your break bro
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Take that much needed break bro..even superman takes days off, lol.
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Faux, just wanted to say that I appreciate what you have done. You have really pushed the boundaries of what our phones can do. You and your work are second to none!
Noob here saying thanks. I have read a lot of your posts on dev and Wow. Go make yourself some money!
everybody else sums it up. thank you, faux. i hope you enjoy yourself.
your kernels are second to none!
Man I gotta say that I am VERY proud to be part of the captivate community. We have alot of wonderful devs and determined people here! With CM7 and MIUI maturing to a rather stable usable state, and I9000 sourced 2.3.3 roms chugging away, things are just getting better and better here all the time :].
Ditto.
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I love how active and changing it is. It seems like every developer here is always hard at work to perfect and update their work, something other phone communities don't seem quite so set on doing. I only wish I had enough programming experience to contribute more than downloading, enjoying and reporting the occasional bug, because the more bustling the better.
You can also support them by donating
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+1 Awesome scene
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You can also support them by donating
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Broke ass college student, otherwise I would.
+1 This seems to be a very close knit community. The devs are quick to respond to changes in software, and tend to, for the most part, show an inspiring amount of patience. I am Proud to be apart of this.
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Broke ass college student, otherwise I would.
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You can help them out in the forums, if someone asks a question you know the answer to answer it, the devs really appreciate not having to micro manage the thread and while they are busy with rom updates. That is what I did to help out, I'm now a member of team phoenix because of it.
Yeah if it weren't for the overwhelming community support this phone would be utter crap. Thanks to the devs we are all here.
yeah True, I wouldnt have liked my captivate so much if it wasnt for this amazing community, thank you guys so much
I hope to contribute in future, trying to learn eclipse...
Im proud as well. I have had my cappy since launch and its so cool to see how this community has grown, and the support from the chefs is great. Im always up-talking this forum to other owners that i meet that dont know the actual ability this phone has.
Now if it only was a light sabor too....
Same boat as broke ass college student so I do what I can with answering questions too.
I got my Captivate at the beginning of the year and I still flash ROMS updates as much today as when I first got it. Its because of all the choices that we have as well as updates (still can't believe we are able to run Gingerbread) that makes this phone great.
If and when I am ready to upgrade to my next phone, looking at the XDA development for the phone is going to sway my decision.
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Broke ass college student, otherwise I would.
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Can't be that broke if you can afford a captivate and beer. Heh
I gotta say I agree, most the people here are to cool. I haven't asked alot of question because I've taken the advice I've seen many times and read read read lol. But when I have asked I got quick responses and never a hard time for asking. So now I try to answer any questions I know the answer to so I can say I contributed somehow. I'm glad I can be a part of the community
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This section is full of the most ungrateful whiny bunch I have yet to see in any mod type forum. I really feel bad for the mods for this phone and I have a great deal of respect for the amount of bs and stupidity you have had to deal with.
It is very clear to me that far too many users in this section lack the proper respect and understanding as to the amount of work and time goes in to 3rd party phone dev. They take your work for granted and cry at every point they get a chance.
There is a big difference between reporting a bug and "OMFG X Doesn't work wtf I donated and the world is ending" (*cough* bella *cough*).
"you all" need to grow up and get a grip on how this scene works, or seriously MOVE ON.
Again thank you dev's for all you do and all you deal with, I can't imagine your frustration.
Agreed.
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Agreed, but we didn't need a thread for this to create flaimbait
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Agreed, but we didn't need a thread for this to create flaimbait
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Disagree. I'm sick of the lack of respect here.
I try and stay out of the infused thread. But I agree its just a free for all around here.
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Agreed, but we didn't need a thread for this to create flaimbait
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This. I agree. Creating this thread and throwing a stone at the same time, is no different than the petty nonsense that was happening in gtg's dev thread. Just stop it, ask a mod to remove this thread, and like most things on the internet, it'll be forgotten.
This thread just throws salt in the wound.
It's pretty nauseating. With any sort of open source software, you're going to get jerks who assume that devs owe them full-time work commitment for miniscule donations.
If you're going to want the attention of someone paying for full-time work, keep your donation and invest in some books on development. It's open source, do it yourself instead of complaining that other people aren't living up to your standards. (I'd love to see any of the people complaining churn out even simple development.)
Love Infused! Admire the work! Awesome job!
Although the technical programming stuff is way over my head, I have to say that I am totally loving Infused. I've done each update since stable was released and have had a very good experience using it. I've also tried some of the apn suggestions and added Infusion since the updates where put on hold. Before Infused, I had to use the unbrick to fix my own mistakes twice. I've played with phones before, so I know I am taking a risk with anything I add or try. Tweaking, adjusting, and sometimes starting over are just part the the process. Maybe frustrating at times, but also part of what makes trying to get the most out of your phone fun and exciting. If people want to enjoy the rewards of the mod, they have to also accept the risks of the mod too.
Enjoy, everyone! This is meant to be a free-for-all of awesomeness.
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I'm sure I'll get flamed for this and then the thread will get locked, but guess what? I don't care.
I have noticed that there are a lot of Dev's and others posting things here that they do for no other reason than to share. Sure a lot of people want recognition, but at the end of the day no one makes money off of this. That's what the Play Store is for.
I'm sure a lot of people would agree that it is very sad that you can't go through many release threads without somebody getting mad at someone else, and worse, getting mad at the guy/gal who spent hours making something which they then shared for FREE.
I'm not going to sit here and spew the same crap about how people should get along and all that; you have parents for that. I will simply say, "thank you" to all of the developers, modders, themers and anyone else who made an honest attempt to contribute. Before you get frustrated and down, remember that for every person who makes a fuss and angers you to the point of violence, there are at least 50 other users who appreciate your efforts. Thank you for contributing to the community.
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Agree 100%. People act like they deserve ROMs, themes, mods, ect. You don't. The ROM makers do this for enjoyment. I'm 14 and have a ton of work to do and of course there's school drama. I use Android to get away from all of it. It feels good. Then people reprimand us about how the ROM sucks. It is not cool. I hope this forum gets ynder control fast.
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No flame wars and thread will stay open .
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I know you devs, & also the ones that port the roms work hard, & do your best to provide stable roms for all to enjoy. You do it basically for free and I would hope people like me, that use them, would simply say thank you. I will be honest, & let you all know that I am currently laid off from my job, and I can barely provide for my wife & son, therefore I have not been able to donate any money to help keep yalls moral up, but I hope that in the near future I can. But at the very least, I can say thank you for all you do. I have fun reading & learning from u guys, & as far as the people that complain...I wouldn't let it bother me if I were you, because there are A LOT more satisfied people than there are complaints!
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I'm sure I'll get flamed for this and then the thread will get locked, but guess what? I don't care.
I have noticed that there are a lot of Dev's and others posting things here that they do for no other reason than to share. Sure a lot of people want recognition, but at the end of the day no one makes money off of this. That's what the Play Store is for.
I'm sure a lot of people would agree that it is very sad that you can't go through many release threads without somebody getting mad at someone else, and worse, getting mad at the guy/gal who spent hours making something which they then shared for FREE.
I'm not going to sit here and spew the same crap about how people should get along and all that; you have parents for that. I will simply say, "thank you" to all of the developers, modders, themers and anyone else who made an honest attempt to contribute. Before you get frustrated and down, remember that for every person who makes a fuss and angers you to the point of violence, there are at least 50 other users who appreciate your efforts. Thank you for contributing to the community.
Let the flaming commence!
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Amen
Ahhhh! The joys of life
We all love to enjoy the work of others as if it were our own. It seems that as we use it ,we believe that it actually is ours {in my mind. Therefore to criticize is warranted and fair. [in my mind of course]. So don"t allow others to get to you. Developers do hard yet rewarding labor with mistakes , goofs, knowledge, and joys- provided that we who enjoy the fruits of their labor appreciate labor is involved and dissapointment is evident to them and us when problems arise. True joy is achieved when constructive comments lead to further development as well as real progress. If all were fired for goofs on the job all nations would be on the dole [if govts could afford it with no tax base]. Love your neighbor as yourself, especially in this case when he's working for free
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We all love to enjoy the work of others as if it were our own. It seems that as we use it ,we believe that it actually is ours {in my mind. Therefore to criticize is warranted and fair. [in my mind of course]. So don"t allow others to get to you. Developers do hard yet rewarding labor with mistakes , goofs, knowledge, and joys- provided that we who enjoy the fruits of their labor appreciate labor is involved and dissapointment is evident to them and us when problems arise. True joy is achieved when constructive comments lead to further development as well as real progress. If all were fired for goofs on the job all nations would be on the dole [if govts could afford it with no tax base]. Love your neighbor as yourself, especially in this case when he's working for free
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Agreed. Constructive critism should always be welcome. The key word, though, is contsructive.
Thank you for you input.
invasion2 said:
Agree 100%. People act like they deserve ROMs, themes, mods, ect. You don't. The ROM makers do this for enjoyment. I'm 14 and have a ton of work to do and of course there's school drama. I use Android to get away from all of it. It feels good. Then people reprimand us about how the ROM sucks. It is not cool. I hope this forum gets ynder control fast.
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YOU'RE 14???? Damn bro I respect you immensely.
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tristan6100 said:
YOU'RE 14???? Damn bro I respect you immensely.
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Yeah not many people know that. That's why I can't get an update out immediately. Got school aand stuff anyway thank you for the respect.
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invasion2 said:
Yeah not many people know that. That's why I can't get an update out immediately. Got school aand stuff anyway thank you for the respect.
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I just wonder how you do it. I tried to learn c++ not too long ago but took a break cuz its so hard. Considering Java is about the same difficulty level and that you're able to make and port roms, you got a lot of perseverance and dedication.
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I just wonder how you do it. I tried to learn c++ not too long ago but took a break cuz its so hard. Considering Java is about the same difficulty level and that you're able to make and port roms, you got a lot of perseverance and dedication.
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Well thank you again listen. To get into developing for Android, you gotta read a lot and ask questions. I did that, and look where I am so I think you should keep going. PM me with questions if you want. Good luck!
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Well thank you again listen. To get into developing for Android, you gotta read a lot and ask questions. I did that, and look where I am so I think you should keep going. PM me with questions if you want. Good luck!
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but most importantly, before all of that, you gotta make the commitment. you can't just decide one day to develop and back down the next day. it doesn't work that way. if you're going to develop, you gotta stick with it till the very end.
True dat
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Well thank you again listen. To get into developing for Android, you gotta read a lot and ask questions. I did that, and look where I am so I think you should keep going. PM me with questions if you want. Good luck!
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I totally feel you man I'm 15 and am on the drumline. But I spend all my free time on here always learning something new. Thanks for the input and inspiration.
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Troll bump
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Resurrected!
saranhai said:
but most importantly, before all of that, you gotta make the commitment. you can't just decide one day to develop and back down the next day. it doesn't work that way. if you're going to develop, you gotta stick with it till the very end.
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oh im on that boat right now, it is difficult to begin into this whole development thing, i've been doing a lot of reading, coding samples on piece of paper, researching the forums for question that im sure were asked but most importantly as Saranhai said is the commitment, im down 100% to learn on my free time not only that but i do try, i really try hard to make this whole thing pay, i can modify apks, i already started creating themes for the theme engine in CM, my next step is theming a whole rom then after that i will learn how to compile from source, port and ultimately my goal is on the launcher, i would love to come up with a different UI as everyone else does at one point.
Sometimes people does not recognize the time you invest as a developer, i don't consider myself a developer as i do fairly basic things, probably my big mistake so far is not asking for help mainly because im afraid of rejection, i asked for help in the past (not on XDA but on another forum) and the dev just got his enjoyment to call me noob, rookie or every single word that is out there to just call me a novice after that i just decided to do not ask any questions and just learn by myself, yeah i have questions about many things and probably is better when someone with experience tells you what to do in case of errors but nothing like your own sacrifice.
i really hope this community gets better, as in any forum you will find people that is down to criticize your work in a good way so you can improve and then there are the a**holes who think you have to fix whatever error they have just because you have to.......Me? if you want an honest and constructive criticism i will tell you what's wrong and probably i wont tell you how to fix it as im fairly new into android development but i can do that, i can try your work and tell you whats wrong with it.
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oh im on that boat right now, it is difficult to begin into this whole development thing, i've been doing a lot of reading, coding samples on piece of paper, researching the forums for question that im sure were asked but most importantly as Saranhai said is the commitment, im down 100% to learn on my free time not only that but i do try, i really try hard to make this whole thing pay, i can modify apks, i already started creating themes for the theme engine in CM, my next step is theming a whole rom then after that i will learn how to compile from source, port and ultimately my goal is on the launcher, i would love to come up with a different UI as everyone else does at one point.
Sometimes people does not recognize the time you invest as a developer, i don't consider myself a developer as i do fairly basic things, probably my big mistake so far is not asking for help mainly because im afraid of rejection, i asked for help in the past (not on XDA but on another forum) and the dev just got his enjoyment to call me noob, rookie or every single word that is out there to just call me a novice after that i just decided to do not ask any questions and just learn by myself, yeah i have questions about many things and probably is better when someone with experience tells you what to do in case of errors but nothing like your own sacrifice.
i really hope this community gets better, as in any forum you will find people that is down to criticize your work in a good way so you can improve and then there are the a**holes who think you have to fix whatever error they have just because you have to.......Me? if you want an honest and constructive criticism i will tell you what's wrong and probably i wont tell you how to fix it as im fairly new into android development but i can do that, i can try your work and tell you whats wrong with it.
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Wow. Well, people are a little nicer around here, and you can always PM someone. But, like you said, if you learn on your own it's even better.
I hate when I take a dump and there's no toilet paper...just saying.
Teach yourself and get advice is the best way.
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I hate when I take a dump and there's no toilet paper...just saying.
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I did that the other day. My wife keeps the extra rolls in the hallway, so I had to do the ****e shuffle out to the hallway cabinet. Suuuucks.
Hi everyone,
I was shocked when I saw all of $droyd$'s threads renamed and closed. I have tried searching but could only get a very general and vague idea of why he left. Does anyone know which post(s) contributed to this?
Really sad to see such a good developer leaving our forums because of a few ungrateful people
Thanks
would know this too :crying:
If you look in said threads you would see why.
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AW: $droyd$ leaving?
He is leaving because we got some ****ing unthankful kids in here that just can't show respect. This is destroying our nice community! I think everybody who is not able to play around with the device itself to sort problems out should be leaving xda right now. This board is not made for people that are not willing to learn and work. No problem with noobs, everybody starts small, but that "let-others-google-it-for-me" mentality just sucks. Sorry dudes.
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No problem with noobs, everybody starts small, but that "let-others-google-it-for-me" mentality just sucks. Sorry dudes.
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He is leaving because we got some ****ing unthankful kids in here that just can't show respect. This is destroying our nice community! I think everybody who is not able to play around with the device itself to sort problems out should be leaving xda right now. This board is not made for people that are not willing to learn and work. No problem with noobs, everybody starts small, but that "let-others-google-it-for-me" mentality just sucks. Sorry dudes.
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You are right dude but acting like a stubborn child is the right way?
Pay to Post?
Maybe it should be pay to post in the developer section? I don't mean every time, but you have to of made a minimum donations to gain access. That way you get people who truly want to contribute and want to see the developers succeed. It will weed out all the question askers and complainers. We already have General, Q&A, and a Help threads to solve all their problems, they don't need to take it to the dev. I only think this should be used to restrict posting, not reading. This money could be pooled and distributed to "Recognized Developers."
I've never used any of his works, but honestly if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. I totally agree that everyone should be more respectful and thankful for the time and effort put in by the devs. However, as a dev, you must be willing/able to accept criticism and realize you will never design/build anything that will satisfy everyone. Yes, there are many users on XDA who are childish and ungrateful for what they are given... but it is just as childish to not only abandon your work, but fully remove it from the larger community.
xda is full of maggots(noobs). i will do the same some time soon! some guys here are nice, some others are here for troll the threads, others to ask to much. the respect for kangers and developers here in xda is lost!.
development from my works is stoped untill these maggots learn some respect and be thankfull!.
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I've never used any of his works, but honestly if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. I totally agree that everyone should be more respectful and thankful for the time and effort put in by the devs. However, as a dev, you must be willing/able to accept criticism and realize you will never design/build anything that will satisfy everyone. Yes, there are many users on XDA who are childish and ungrateful for what they are given... but it is just as childish to not only abandon your work, but fully remove it from the larger community.
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I have to say that I agree with you.
The devs are often treated like they are gods, which they are clearly not. They should be respected for their work, of course, and I feel like everyone should donate a lot more money (what are 5 bucks for an awesome rom every once in a while?!), but the attitude of some devs, or rather those people trying to "protect" the devs are, in my opinion, even worse then the childish users here on xda.
Yep a few idiots ruining it for everyone. Sad to see this as this was a great dev and will be missed.
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Hmm, his reaction is questionable. I can understand that he is p****d off by some users. But for that problem he has got "Add to ignore list". Why didn't he use that?
Look at the **** other devs get this is a common problem on xda I thought droyd had it good compared to other devices. Hell task a popular dev here has to lock his thread each day.
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Used $droyd$'s ROM's and he was always helpful and obviously put a LOT of time and effort in.
But the fact is that you'll always have some whiners and people who expect things(get needy) they shouldn't, and if you can't cope with that then this is bound to happen.
It's a shame it happened, I respect $droyd$'s decision, but he could and should have just ignored the whiners here...and concentrate on the 99% of users here that ARE grateful.
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Sorry but who the hell acted like a stubborn kid? Don't get what you are referring to...
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Leaving XDA because some users are rude/stupid is like leaving a pool because you didn't want to get wet. I've been hanging around here for many years and, while there are certainly more of them due to android's popularity, the level of trolls has always been high. I didn't even know there was an "ignore" function...I've just developed a mental "ignore" to be able to tolerate the thread bloat.
If you're making ROMs for other's approval, you are going to be disappointed...if you make them for yourself and share them with others, then [email protected] the trolls and enjoy your hard work.
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Leaving XDA because some users are rude/stupid is like leaving a pool because you didn't want to get wet. I've been hanging around here for many years and, while there are certainly more of them due to android's popularity, the level of trolls has always been high. I didn't even know there was an "ignore" function...I've just developed a mental "ignore" to be able to tolerate the thread bloat.
If you're making ROMs for other's approval, you are going to be disappointed...if you make them for yourself and share them with others, then [email protected] the trolls and enjoy your hard work.
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That's a kind of point I made in the other thread: Functional critics are good, you can even learn with then to make your roms better. Trolls must be reported. Simple.
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Leaving XDA because some users are rude/stupid is like leaving a pool because you didn't want to get wet. I've been hanging around here for many years and, while there are certainly more of them due to android's popularity, the level of trolls has always been high. I didn't even know there was an "ignore" function...I've just developed a mental "ignore" to be able to tolerate the thread bloat.
If you're making ROMs for other's approval, you are going to be disappointed...if you make them for yourself and share them with others, then [email protected] the trolls and enjoy your hard work.
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Its not that they make them for other peoples approval either. Its just hard and a thank you from time to time makes it easier. The people who treat the devs like crap make them not wanna do it anymore plain and simple. They are people too and they need that validation for working so hard and I don't blame them.
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OK, opinions are exchanged, all that should be said is said (even more than that). Before this gets out of hands, I close this thread.