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In searching the forums I know this has come up for other devices and am wondering about the Fuze. What Micro SD speed class can the Fuze use. Don't want to spend extra on a class 4 if it can only take advantage of the class 2 speeds.
Thanks, my Fuze gets delivered late this week, cant wait
Dinghani said:
In searching the forums I know this has come up for other devices and am wondering about the Fuze. What Micro SD speed class can the Fuze use. Don't want to spend extra on a class 4 if it can only take advantage of the class 2 speeds.
Thanks, my Fuze gets delivered late this week, cant wait
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I'm running an 8GB class 4, Although I've seen specs that say it supports up to 32GB storage and class6 speeds
I'm rocking a Mobile Ultra 8GB... class 6.
While the fuze (and any phone really) can only take advantage of class 2 speed, your computer can use everything higher. Also, I believe when you're using the direct storage card access mode while plugged into the computer, you can take advantage of the higher speeds as well.
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While the fuze (and any phone really) can only take advantage of class 2 speed, your computer can use everything higher. Also, I believe when you're using the direct storage card access mode while plugged into the computer, you can take advantage of the higher speeds as well.
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I Noticed a speed tweak in the Blackstone forum for making the SD read time 3X as fast. Is there any way to "port" this setting to the Fuze? I'm beginning to load up on movies and want the best format possible for TV-Out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446366
Thanks!
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I Noticed a speed tweak in the Blackstone forum for making the SD read time 3X as fast.
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I just installed that tweak and, at the very least, everything seems to be able to access the storage card normally. I don't have time to try it out myself right now, but I'll see if I can slap some videos on there for testing later.
I wouldn't let thos Class numbers fool you.. I bought an early 8GB Adata Class4 card and just recently a new 8GB Class6 for a neighbor. Just out of curiosity I plugged each into a mini USB reader and ran hdtach on my PC. My old Class4 card read at 19MB/s and the newer Class6 at only 14MB/s. Explain that...
I have two 8 gb cards, one is class 4 and one is class 6. The difference when connected to a computer is around 10%, but on my Pro I didn't notice any.
However class 4 is almost 2x faster than class 2, and I believe that will have an impact on phone performance.
I could benchmark mine if someone recommends a tool.
I'm running a Sandisk 16 GB Class 2 in my AT&T Fuze,and it runs great!
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I wouldn't let thos Class numbers fool you.. I bought an early 8GB Adata Class4 card and just recently a new 8GB Class6 for a neighbor. Just out of curiosity I plugged each into a mini USB reader and ran hdtach on my PC. My old Class4 card read at 19MB/s and the newer Class6 at only 14MB/s. Explain that...
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Depends on the brands and models you got as to what your read speed will be, but the class rating actually has nothing to do with read speed, only write. Also, the class numbers are a guaranteed minimum write speed, so a card labeled class 2 could write faster than class 6 in theory. Here are some read-write benchmarks to show you just how they can vary:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2094715,00.asp
I haven't found any info on the max theoretical read/write speeds of the flash controller in the Fuze/TouchPro to know what they're supposed to be capable of.
As for the speed tweak from the Blackstone forum...I can't see any difference in playback speed using one Xvid and one Divx video in TCPMP's benchmark. Those are the only two formats I have atm, and they're both technically just MP4 video with MP3 audio.
pocket mechanics can benchmark the sd card in the pda
as benchmarking can't be don on the pc as the speeds will be way different
I think I actually have a copy of pocket mechanic. I was thinking about using SPB Benchmark, but I'll give PM a shot first.
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6415
Article on the cab file and post in the blackstone forum. This article has benchmarks in a graph showing the increase. Anyone benechmarked this tweak on a touchpro yet to see if it works like the HD does?
I have to say that I'm pretty surprised by these results. Both tests were done under identical circumstances and both probably suffer a little due to the fact that I had SOTI Pocket Controller running while I ran the tests. I used the latest version of Pocket Mechanic and an Adata class 4 8gb microsdhc. On the left is the "before."
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I have to say that I'm pretty surprised by these results. Both tests were done under identical circumstances and both probably suffer a little due to the fact that I had SOTI Pocket Controller running while I ran the tests. I used the latest version of Pocket Mechanic and an Adata class 4 8gb microsdhc. On the left is the "before."
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This is the cab fix correct?
Mine also benchmarked way higher after installing the cab fix. (8gig class 4 micro sd also)
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This is the cab fix correct?
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Yes. Unfortunately, throwing all that extra data at a video processing system that was already choking to death hasn't helped video playback, which is one of the main reasons the patch was developed for the HD. I think I may try to flash the HD derived rom to my Fuze and then retest to see what happens.
If we had the right software to take advantage the hardware we could play DVD,s off this thing
I tryed a full 700meg divx dvd rip that stuttered on play a bit before the cab install, and it plays pretty decent now. It had to be the read time of the phone and not the card that was doing it. Now if coreplayer ever fixs the QVT (blue flicker) on there player it would be a neat toy to plug in with the tv out cable.
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I tryed a full 700meg divx dvd rip that stuttered on play a bit before the cab install, and it plays pretty decent now.
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What are you using to play the video...core?
I have an a-data 8gig class 6 and I cant flash through the card. Other than that im happy but not being able to flash through my card is really annoying. Most Heinous.
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What are you using to play the video...core?
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Core for the moment, but I may start re encoding them mp4 and use WM player.
I bought a 32 gb micro sd off ebay! I've heard of some people getting bad cards off there. The one I've got is a Sandisk 32 gb class 4.
I've been able to do these things:
-It reads 30.9 gb available space after formatting it.
-Format it from the phone.
-Move my apps to it and they function fine.
- record video and take pictures and view from the phone.
Now when it comes to putting MP4 movies on it, I've been able to get 3 to work. Any others I put on it it either won't read them or the video doesn't play right. I have a class 2 16 gb sandisk that has no problems at all.
My questions are these. How do I know if I got a fake one, is there a way to test it? Are there any ideas on a way to fix this?
I'm running a 32gb class 4 card in my phone with no problems.
Are you saying that the <i>same files</i> work on the 16gb card, but not the 32gb card? I'm having a hard time with that idea; the card doesn't care what the file is; its only job is to store the bits.
It is possible that you're hitting a bad spot on the chip, and that the larger video files happen to be the ones hitting the bad spot, but I've never actually heard of an SD card that "sort of" works; every one I've ever had has either worked or not worked.
If you're having trouble with video files in general, the problem is more likely the encoding of the video files. If you're trying to view downloaded movies, you could be hitting unsupported resolutions, bit rates, or encoding schemes. There also seems to be a wide variation in h.264 encoders, so some will work great and others will fail miserably.
One thing you could do is find an encoder that works for you, then run any movies you acquire through that encoder to ensure that you have a uniform resolution, bit rate, and h.264 encoding setting.
TomXP411 said:
I'm running a 32gb class 4 card in my phone with no problems.
Are you saying that the <i>same files</i> work on the 16gb card, but not the 32gb card? I'm having a hard time with that idea; the card doesn't care what the file is; its only job is to store the bits.
It is possible that you're hitting a bad spot on the chip, and that the larger video files happen to be the ones hitting the bad spot, but I've never actually heard of an SD card that "sort of" works; every one I've ever had has either worked or not worked.
If you're having trouble with video files in general, the problem is more likely the encoding of the video files. If you're trying to view downloaded movies, you could be hitting unsupported resolutions, bit rates, or encoding schemes. There also seems to be a wide variation in h.264 encoders, so some will work great and others will fail miserably.
One thing you could do is find an encoder that works for you, then run any movies you acquire through that encoder to ensure that you have a uniform resolution, bit rate, and h.264 encoding setting.
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Hey Tom thanks for helping OP out. Regarding the 32gb card, how much did you pay for it? I was looking in amazon and they are 45 dollars. Did you find a better deal?
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I bought a 32 gb micro sd off ebay! I've heard of some people getting bad cards off there. The one I've got is a Sandisk 32 gb class 4.
I've been able to do these things:
-It reads 30.9 gb available space after formatting it.
-Format it from the phone.
-Move my apps to it and they function fine.
- record video and take pictures and view from the phone.
Now when it comes to putting MP4 movies on it, I've been able to get 3 to work. Any others I put on it it either won't read them or the video doesn't play right. I have a class 2 16 gb sandisk that has no problems at all.
My questions are these. How do I know if I got a fake one, is there a way to test it? Are there any ideas on a way to fix this?
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30.9 gb sounds right. The rest of the card is dedicated to storing a map of where the files are stored.
If you think the video files are corrupted, try playing them on your computer from the card.....they should work. In that case you just have a funky file that isn't working in your phone.
Moboplayer is my favorite media player, if it needs any extra codecs to work, it'll let you know. Just make sure to change the video decoding to "software" after that, I believe.
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What are you guys using to get all of the files transferred from an old card to the new card, I have formatted it on the phone, on the computer, tried copying from the computer to the card using a USB adapter, tried copying over the same way but in 3 separate batches, The phone is seeing the card and 26G free, but none of my programs are showing up. I am now trying this, formatted the card in the phone, and copying through the phone.
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What are you guys using to get all of the files transferred from an old card to the new card, I have formatted it on the phone, on the computer, tried copying from the computer to the card using a USB adapter, tried copying over the same way but in 3 separate batches, The phone is seeing the card and 26G free, but none of my programs are showing up. I am now trying this, formatted the card in the phone, and copying through the phone.
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I just used a card reader and copied the files onto the computer then from my computer to the new card. Also i think it was a bogus card. The guy offered a full refund but now that he got it back, I havent heard from him. I filed a buyer protection claim. I read a n article in ebay forums about bogus 32 gb cards being sold. They're only 2 or 4 gig cards made to look like 32's. Anyone else heard of this?
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Hey all,
When i film video on this camera, it only works part of the time. If it does work, it still has parts where giant blocks show up on the footage when viewing it back and its like the footage gets stuck in pieces.
Most of the time though, when trying to playback through the gallery, the clip just doesnt display and it says "Sorry, this video cannot be played". This happens right after shooting it. I tried rebooting and giving it another shot but the best i could get was it would show the first few seconds and then go black and display the error message.
Anyone else having this error?
Thanks.
You seem to be the only one having this particular issue. What is your current set up?
Try another memory card. Sounds like your sd card went bad.
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I'm just running stock Sense rooted.
Mem card was sandisk straight out the package, i'll try a different one though and see what happens.
Any certain type of micro sdhc or specific formatting type we're supposed to be using?
I use a Sandisk card myself. I just used my phone to format it before use. You should always format a new card before you use it. It is formatted standard fat16.
I went ahead and swapped out the card for another sandisk 16gb. Formatted it through windows though. We'll see if this helps. Appreciate the suggestions.
I know the Answer! There's a bug in the Stock Rom. On RootzWiki its called green blocks. Just do a battery pull. I had the same issue on stock rooted.
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Thanks Elgin dude, I actually did do a battery pull right after filming and the clips still wouldnt play from gallery for the most part.
They do seem to be playing better now with the new mem card, hoping that was all the problem was.
thanks all.
or should i go for a quad core tablet and can i use a 64 gig sd? or no thanks
please move to Q&a forum i thought i was in there
I own a 7 in tab 2 gt-p3110
According to samsungs website it supports up to 32 gb
Stock jellybean worked quite well but the battery life seemed poor.
I installed cm 10.1 and feel it improved
It runs fairly quick no gripes in speed but I have not gamed on it.
I own a kindle fire hd and the screen and battery life on it is superior
But it has a locked boot loader and no roms to flash and may never...
Kfhd has hdmi out standard micro usb better screen better batt life, no gps, no usb otg only one camera front facing, no sd card slot
Tab2 has no hdmi out, proprietary usb connection, less batt life, gps, usb otg, worse screen, two cameras, sd card slot.
All in all I think the kindle is the win, but tab2 device is more open with more features.
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You can use 64gig card in Tab 2. I just had to format it fat32 and it is recognized with ~60gig available.
If you've got money to burn get the new quad, if not these are solid tablets for the price point.
well, i wont game much with it except games like pool etc which im sure are not high performance games...lol, i just want to use it to surf web and watch movies and play music on
leo5111 said:
well, i wont game much with it except games like pool etc which im sure are not high performance games...lol, i just want to use it to surf web and watch movies and play music on
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Then the Samsung Galaxys Tab 2 should be perfect for you.
Thats all i use mine for is watching films & surfing the web and is perfect for that.
I will say this 16 gigs that the kfhd and nexus 7 come with is NOT enough for me... sd card is nice
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Tab2.7 with Sugsonic HD
I run Sugsonic HD with my tab 2.7. It's really fast and the graphics and sound is really good too.
I use a 32gb class 10 card. I've read articles on this site where guys have installed 64gb cards and it's worked. But, I've also read where it works but can become unreliable above 32gb and sometimes users have lost data.
Picked up a high-speed MicroSD card and formatted it in my moto z. My device gets hot and full charge battery only lasts about three hours. When I remove the MicroSD card everything goes back to normal.
Using custom kernel and prerooted stock rom.
Anybody having any issues like mine or can shed some light on how to fix the issue? Thanks!
happened to me in moto x force and moto z
with 128gb lexar (works flawlessly on samsung tab a)
changed to sandisk uhs-i and no problems
might be moto is picky when it comes to sd cards
Yep this is a lexar card. Was on sale for $100. I guess I'll have to return it. Thanks for letting me know.
I went back to stock encrypted and it seemed to fix the issue.
don't count on it
Just FYI...
I've a 128 GB 1000x Lexar on my Moto Z with stock kernel and no issues with it... :fingers-crossed:
So another update, turns out Android sucks at indexing and it was constantly scanning my 5800 FLAC files all the time. 100% battery would go to 10% in just under three hours, it had nothing to do with it being a lexar card!
Solution? I put a .nomedia file in my music folder and enabled my music player to ignore that and it scans my whole library with ease. I went to work at 8:30 am today and just got home (6:18 pm) and my battery is still at 85%.
Turbojugend said:
So another update, turns out Android sucks at indexing and it was constantly scanning my 5800 FLAC files all the time. 100% battery would go to 10% in just under three hours, it had nothing to do with it being a lexar card!
Solution? I put a .nomedia file in my music folder and enabled my music player to ignore that and it scans my whole library with ease. I went to work at 8:30 am today and just got home (6:18 pm) and my battery is still at 85%.
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Really a weird issue...
I've my MP3 and videos on my SD card and I've noted no issue with them...
I've tried multiple high speed UHS-I cards, and formatted as internal, but all of them were either flagged by the phone as "too slow and might affect performance" or gave me heat and battery life issues.
And it would take five minutes after a reboot to show all app icons, or apps would lose login passwords, games lost saves and other annoying issues.
Formatting it as external storage, and just setting the camera to record directly to it works fine though.
Someone from Xiaomi actually said they're not adding or supporting MicroSD as internal due to them always having issues apparently. And it seems to be true.
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Formatting it as external storage, and just setting the camera to record directly to it works fine though.
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This is in fact my actual situation... no issues with Lexar 128GB 1000x.
enetec said:
Really a weird issue...
I've my MP3 and videos on my SD card and I've noted no issue with them...
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Maybe because I am using FLAC and have 5900 of them on it hahaha.
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Maybe because I am using FLAC and have 5900 of them on it hahaha.
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Probably! :laugh:
Btw, another reason to not use it formatted as internal storage, is the immense power requirements MicroSD can spend at max write speed.
According to Wikipedia, as much as 100mA, which really explains why the phone heats up when it's formatted that way. And that doesn't include the consumption of the sd card controller.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
Shadowdancer123 said:
Btw, another reason to not use it formatted as internal storage, is the immense power requirements MicroSD can spend at max write speed.
According to Wikipedia, as much as 100mA, which really explains why the phone heats up when it's formatted that way. And that doesn't include the consumption of the sd card controller.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
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It didn't matter how I had it formatted before it was still getting super hot. Now that I haven't been using it, the issue must have been Android trying to index all the files as it's been running fine all week now that I have that .nomedia file in my music folder.
Does anyone know of a 128 card that can handle is phone?? Im gonn try the Samsung Pro+ 128
masterjay21 said:
Does anyone know of a 128 card that can handle is phone?? Im gonn try the Samsung Pro+ 128
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Using Lexar 1000x with no issues at all here...
enetec said:
Using Lexar 1000x with no issues at all here...
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And at last... I had issues too!
On sdcard I store TWRP backups (no issues...), Titanium backups (no issues...), Maps (no issues...) and.... Pics & videos... and here I begin to see some weird behaviour...
First I saw Gallery had difficulties on showing pics thumbnials if I go fast between them... then it begins to show some "damaged" pics... at last I saw Camera app begins to crash just after taking a pic... (set to save on sdcard...)
So, I removed sdcard, connected to a PC and copied all files... The copy requested A LOT of time since of read difficulties, BUT all files was ok at last. :highfive:
Then I formatted sdcard and extensively tested with h2testw with no issues and constant speed.
So I formatted again and copied all files back in.
Then I've found a way to have it working fine with Moto Z... (I think... :fingers-crossed
Problem is that Moto Z is set to use a too small cache size for modern sdcards (128 KB) and this probably generate sync issues (and when this happens I saw CPU go wild and phone become warm... in a very similar way with Windows when it is having issues with USB keys... )
So I installed "SD-booster" app from Play Store (yes, it requires root...) and used it to resize cache to a more suitable value of 2048 KB and I haven't had any issue since then... more, my gallery has never been so fast scrolling and taking a LOT of pics in seconds or slow motion video isn't an issue at all now...
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Does anyone know of a 128 card that can handle is phone?? Im gonn try the Samsung Pro+ 128
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I'm using a Samsung Evo 128go and I have no issue
So, I currently only use my 128gb Samsung UHS1 card for external storage only because of the issues other have experienced using it as internal. Not sure if it's on anyone's radar but Sandisk just announced a new micro sd card made specifically to be able to handle the read/write requirements.
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/01/05/sandisks-new-256gb-a1-microsd-card-wants-apps/