Hey All,
So picked myself up a Pixel QB 128 on the UK's EE network. It came with software ver 7.1. So I didn't update as I read that if you update to 7.1.1 - this patches the exploit needed for the dePixel8 tool.
So used the dePixel8 tool and unlocked the boot loader (Confirmed in developer settings which now states "Bootloader already unlocked). Although, I haven't actually rooted it or installed a custom recovery yet.
My question is:
Can I take the OTA update to 7.1.1 - and still have an unlocked boot loader with the possibility to root and install recovery? Or is there a special way to update it that I should be aware of?
Thanks in advance!
Once youre unlocked, your unlocked unless you lock it again. (never do that by the way). You can take the OTA without fear.
Thanks, I braved it and took the update. All working well. Still haven't rooted just yet - trying to figure out the benefits of root atm. Looking forward to some great ROMs.
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slave2soul said:
Thanks, I braved it and took the update. All working well. Still haven't rooted just yet - trying to figure out the benefits of root atm. Looking forward to some great ROMs.
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benefits of rooting - adaway system wide... and Substratum support (legacy on stock roms)
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I just received my TF300 and ASUS is asking me to update.
I'm currently running 2.6.39.4. Can you hack the lastest update?
I want to install CM. Can't wait.
And is worth hacking? Asus' UI replacement doesn't seem as terrible as my last device, a Droid 2.
(And since my phone broke and the replacement has a locked bootloader, I'm going to buy an S3 since MotorBlur is ****ing horrifying).
Read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1713691
and this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667604
as this question has been asked over and over again.
Can you root without unlocked bootloader?
Yes. I rooted with an outdated root method, so i'm not sure which method you need to use with the software you currently have. The info is there, you just have to sort through it.
juryben said:
Can you root without unlocked bootloader?
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This method appears to work with any firmware. I rooted from 9.4.3.29 with no problems.
2.6.39.4 is the kernel ID, not the firmware
Hi XDA-Devvers,
In a topic (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510719) I read about the following:
Nonverbose said:
Root won't stop an ota but an unlocked bootloader will. You can check in your boot screen if its still unlocked or if its relocked.
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Doesn't that mean that we can root our tablet, lock the bootloader again (fastboot oem lock), install Voodoo OTA RootKeeper and once there's an OTA available, just backup the root with the Voodoo app and install it?
How awesome would that be :laugh:
Since I am not a pro in that kind of stuff: Can anyone confirm this theory might actually work for real?
fastboot oem lock is unavailable once you unlocked the bootloader.
Ah bummer. Can we relock the bootloader yet? IF we were able to relock the bootloader, it would work, wouldn't it?
TomONeill said:
Ah bummer. Can we relock the bootloader yet? IF we were able to relock the bootloader, it would work, wouldn't it?
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No, as many informations -including bootloader version- are sent to check if a new OTA is available
alx5962 said:
No, as many informations -including bootloader version- are sent to check if a new OTA is available
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Okay, thank you for replying. This makes the decision to root a little harder since I want to keep getting updates and for that you'll need ClockWork (and the people who are pushing the update to XDA)(Clockwork does have the nandroid backup though, which I want to have when rooting), which doesn't run very stable last time I read (I rooted before, but then I sent my tab back (heat problems) and got a new one. I flashed a beta ROM xd).
I thanked your post
Isn't it enough to have the original Kernel and ROM? Do you really need a locked bootloader to get OTA updates?
Has anyone tested the universal root method? See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
As this doesn't effect the Kernel, OTA updates might work if rooting works with this method.
I've not tried it. I've read some people are bricking their tablets with the universal, and since the A700 is basically a brick waiting to happen, I think I'll pass on it for a while.
I might be buying this instead of the M. But first, some questions.
1. When I first get it, will I be able to unlock and root it straight out of the box, with or without OTA update?
2. How good is the dev support for this phone?
I'll update this when I think of more.
Yes you can unlock the bootloader and root and and flash a recovery. And about Dev support well we just got official CM10.1 and PAC and alot of other roms.
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sickkside13 said:
Yes you can unlock the bootloader and root and and flash a recovery. And about Dev support well we just got official CM10.1 and PAC and alot of other roms.
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Um, no, you can't unlock the bootloader anymore on the latest OTA. You can still get root by downgrading to a previous firmware and using Voodoo to protect root before upgrading again, but you will never be able to unlock the bootloader since the trusted zone partition can't be downgraded.
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Um, no, you can't unlock the bootloader anymore on the latest OTA. You can still get root by downgrading to a previous firmware and using Voodoo to protect root before upgrading again, but you will never be able to unlock the bootloader since the trusted zone partition can't be downgraded.
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So don't OTA when I first get it?
I mean, I'm fine with a non-unlockable bootloader. But if I have the choice to unlock it when it comes in, I won't be OTA-ing it. Speaking of which, whenever you activate the phone, doesn't it OTA?
Also, whenever I receive this what version will it be running on? And what version did they patch the bootloader method you guys were using? I'm not gonna be OTAing. And if activating the phone means OTAing, I'll unlock it prior to activation.
What you'll more than likely get from Verizon is a phone running the 4.1.2 firmware, build number starts with 9.16. This will be rootable, but you will not be able to unlock the bootloader. You will be asked to update with an OTA to firmware build number which starts with 9.18. You won't be able to root 9.18, but if you root on 9.16 first, use VooDoo OTA rootkeeper and then update, you should still be rooted on 9.18
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What you'll more than likely get from Verizon is a phone running the 4.1.2 firmware, build number starts with 9.16. This will be rootable, but you will not be able to unlock the bootloader. You will be asked to update with an OTA to firmware build number which starts with 9.18. You won't be able to root 9.18, but if you root on 9.16 first, use VooDoo OTA rootkeeper and then update, you should still be rooted on 9.18
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So anything before 9.16 and I should be good to go? Hopefully they don't ship it out with 9.16+
Actually, would it be possible to downgrade to below 9.16 whenever I get it?
I am thinking of getting an S6 and i wanted a rootable phone. i see a root method available but no bootloader unlock and yet i see ROMs available. how does this work. i thought bootloader needed to be unlocked in order to do custom ROMs. Or is htere a verizon bootloader unlock available i could not find?
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I am thinking of getting an S6 and i wanted a rootable phone. i see a root method available but no bootloader unlock and yet i see ROMs available. how does this work. i thought bootloader needed to be unlocked in order to do custom ROMs. Or is htere a verizon bootloader unlock available i could not find?
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There is not and 99% chance there will never be a bootloader unlock. Root method no longer works in later versions of android. The bootloader does not need to be unlocked with a custom recovery.
I apologize for not diligently searching as I should, I came across this asking the same more or less as I was.... I have one sitting on lrx22g.g920vvru1a0c3 which if I read the root method correctly I can root... At that point you say that the boot loader doesn't need to be unlocked so I can ( mfastboot flash recover xxxx.IMG ) on a locked boot loader? Or use rashr ? And after which we can ROM it?... Could I then theme it as well? I am coming for Motorola's all I've ever had/used/touched ever.... Running stock do I need to deodex it to be able to theme it? Do we have firmware out there n a tool (like Moto's rsd lite/ house of moto) to flash it with? With unlimited data is there a mobile hotspot mod/hack use utilize the baked I hotspot app? Can I still pull system apps theme um zip um and flash up.... Not having the Sim card yet I can really play with it as I wish to ... I just powered it on and its asking for an update... So I figured it'd try to root it now as there's no unlock for it..... Thank you kindly for your time and information
OE2 is the latest firmware that is rootable. Once rooted, you can flash a custom recovery and load roms through that.
There is a rooted S6 available for sale on swappa right now, just so you know
I have a google pixel xl. I am currently on 7.0 but just received notification that i have a 7.1.1 update waiting for me. I have rooted my phone's in the past but have not rooted or unlocked bootloader this time. Is it my understanding that once this update is received that it is not possible to unlock the bootloader and/or root? I would like to keep the rooting option open but at this time would like to stay on stock as i like having timely updates ota. The last phone/ROM i used, the developer kinda laxed on updates, plus additional issues that were not present on factory installed rom.
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As long as you have a Pixel bought from Google and not Verizon you are fine to take the update. The Verizon variant ships with a locked bootloader that can't be unlocked without the intervention of dePixel8 on 7.1 firmware. The Google variety will always have the option to unlock bootloader / root.
You are on 7.1, not 7.0... the phone shipped at 7.1.
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I have a google pixel xl. I am currently on 7.0 but just received notification that i have a 7.1.1 update waiting for me. I have rooted my phone's in the past but have not rooted or unlocked bootloader this time. Is it my understanding that once this update is received that it is not possible to unlock the bootloader and/or root? I would like to keep the rooting option open but at this time would like to stay on stock as i like having timely updates ota. The last phone/ROM i used, the developer kinda laxed on updates, plus additional issues that were not present on factory installed rom.
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As I understand, the google phone should have no issues getting the bootloader unlocked. The verizon one cannot be unlocked from 7.1.1 (at least so far).
Beyond that, rooting can be done in 7.1 or 7.1.1.
I would suggest unlocking the bootloader and keeping it that way if you want to change anything.
(My suggestions are based on Google Pixel, and NOT the XL). I just noticed, but you're posting on the pixel forums btw.