I might be buying this instead of the M. But first, some questions.
1. When I first get it, will I be able to unlock and root it straight out of the box, with or without OTA update?
2. How good is the dev support for this phone?
I'll update this when I think of more.
Yes you can unlock the bootloader and root and and flash a recovery. And about Dev support well we just got official CM10.1 and PAC and alot of other roms.
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sickkside13 said:
Yes you can unlock the bootloader and root and and flash a recovery. And about Dev support well we just got official CM10.1 and PAC and alot of other roms.
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Um, no, you can't unlock the bootloader anymore on the latest OTA. You can still get root by downgrading to a previous firmware and using Voodoo to protect root before upgrading again, but you will never be able to unlock the bootloader since the trusted zone partition can't be downgraded.
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Um, no, you can't unlock the bootloader anymore on the latest OTA. You can still get root by downgrading to a previous firmware and using Voodoo to protect root before upgrading again, but you will never be able to unlock the bootloader since the trusted zone partition can't be downgraded.
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So don't OTA when I first get it?
I mean, I'm fine with a non-unlockable bootloader. But if I have the choice to unlock it when it comes in, I won't be OTA-ing it. Speaking of which, whenever you activate the phone, doesn't it OTA?
Also, whenever I receive this what version will it be running on? And what version did they patch the bootloader method you guys were using? I'm not gonna be OTAing. And if activating the phone means OTAing, I'll unlock it prior to activation.
What you'll more than likely get from Verizon is a phone running the 4.1.2 firmware, build number starts with 9.16. This will be rootable, but you will not be able to unlock the bootloader. You will be asked to update with an OTA to firmware build number which starts with 9.18. You won't be able to root 9.18, but if you root on 9.16 first, use VooDoo OTA rootkeeper and then update, you should still be rooted on 9.18
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What you'll more than likely get from Verizon is a phone running the 4.1.2 firmware, build number starts with 9.16. This will be rootable, but you will not be able to unlock the bootloader. You will be asked to update with an OTA to firmware build number which starts with 9.18. You won't be able to root 9.18, but if you root on 9.16 first, use VooDoo OTA rootkeeper and then update, you should still be rooted on 9.18
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So anything before 9.16 and I should be good to go? Hopefully they don't ship it out with 9.16+
Actually, would it be possible to downgrade to below 9.16 whenever I get it?
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I just received my TF300 and ASUS is asking me to update.
I'm currently running 2.6.39.4. Can you hack the lastest update?
I want to install CM. Can't wait.
And is worth hacking? Asus' UI replacement doesn't seem as terrible as my last device, a Droid 2.
(And since my phone broke and the replacement has a locked bootloader, I'm going to buy an S3 since MotorBlur is ****ing horrifying).
Read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1713691
and this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667604
as this question has been asked over and over again.
Can you root without unlocked bootloader?
Yes. I rooted with an outdated root method, so i'm not sure which method you need to use with the software you currently have. The info is there, you just have to sort through it.
juryben said:
Can you root without unlocked bootloader?
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This method appears to work with any firmware. I rooted from 9.4.3.29 with no problems.
2.6.39.4 is the kernel ID, not the firmware
Hi XDA-Devvers,
In a topic (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510719) I read about the following:
Nonverbose said:
Root won't stop an ota but an unlocked bootloader will. You can check in your boot screen if its still unlocked or if its relocked.
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Doesn't that mean that we can root our tablet, lock the bootloader again (fastboot oem lock), install Voodoo OTA RootKeeper and once there's an OTA available, just backup the root with the Voodoo app and install it?
How awesome would that be :laugh:
Since I am not a pro in that kind of stuff: Can anyone confirm this theory might actually work for real?
fastboot oem lock is unavailable once you unlocked the bootloader.
Ah bummer. Can we relock the bootloader yet? IF we were able to relock the bootloader, it would work, wouldn't it?
TomONeill said:
Ah bummer. Can we relock the bootloader yet? IF we were able to relock the bootloader, it would work, wouldn't it?
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No, as many informations -including bootloader version- are sent to check if a new OTA is available
alx5962 said:
No, as many informations -including bootloader version- are sent to check if a new OTA is available
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Okay, thank you for replying. This makes the decision to root a little harder since I want to keep getting updates and for that you'll need ClockWork (and the people who are pushing the update to XDA)(Clockwork does have the nandroid backup though, which I want to have when rooting), which doesn't run very stable last time I read (I rooted before, but then I sent my tab back (heat problems) and got a new one. I flashed a beta ROM xd).
I thanked your post
Isn't it enough to have the original Kernel and ROM? Do you really need a locked bootloader to get OTA updates?
Has anyone tested the universal root method? See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
As this doesn't effect the Kernel, OTA updates might work if rooting works with this method.
I've not tried it. I've read some people are bricking their tablets with the universal, and since the A700 is basically a brick waiting to happen, I think I'll pass on it for a while.
I've been wanting to take the ota kit Kat version but scared if I take it I will loose root and my flash to Pageplus with 3g and mms working. have anyone took the update and still able to gain root access and Pageplus service with working 3g and mms?
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dextrickbell said:
I've been wanting to take the ota kit Kat version but scared if I take it I will loose root and my flash to Pageplus with 3g and mms working. have anyone took the update and still able to gain root access and Pageplus service with working 3g and mms?
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You will lose root, unless you are bootloader unlocked then you can flash su easily. No idea about Pageplus service, depends how you enabled it originally..
So is it possible to unlock my bootloader then take the ota update.
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So is it possible to unlock my bootloader then take the ota update.
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You can't unlock your bootloader unless you have a dev device or XT925..if you don't have either of these then you'll have to wait until there is a method to keep root (if it's possible).
coolloser said:
You can't unlock your bootloader unless you have a dev device or XT925..if you don't have either of these then you'll have to wait until there is a method to keep root (if it's possible).
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Not entirely true. It you are on an XT926 non-dev device, you could still unlock the bootloader IF you haven't upgraded to any OTAs after version 9.16.6. If you've updated it via an OTA since that version, then no, you cannot unlock your bootloader. And downgrading back to 9.16.6 will not fix it. Once the OTA is applied, the exploit to unlock an XT926 is gone forever. It was the one and only chance of unlocking the phone. No other options exist unless Verizon allows it to be unlocked via the Motorola unlocker program, which I highly doubt will occur.
If you are still on 9.16.9 or earlier, then you can go here and try to unlock your bootloader -> http://vulnfactory.org/blog/2013/04/08/motorola-bootloader-unlocking/
You must be rooted in order to do this.
If you are on any of these versions, then you can no longer unlock your bootloader:
9.18.X
9.20.1
9.30.1
183.46.10 (KitKat)
Trying won't hurt anything. Worse comes to worse, you'll still have a locked bootloader. Best case scenario, you'll have an unlocked bootloader!
We've already had one success story since the OTA with a user who was able to unlock his bootloader, so you might be the same as long as you are on the version stated or earlier. He was and luckily, no later OTAs were applied, so he's now unlocked.
This morning i finally relented and installed the 4.4 update (kitkat?) on my droid razr maxx hd. now im stuck at the red M motorola splash screen thing. is there any way i can fix this? I went to verizon and they wouldent do anything for me. I need my phone for work every day so help is greatly appreciated. i also tried the power volume down to restore factory settings or whatever but it just goes to the M screen forever. the only thing that DOES come up from those menus is ap fast boot. not sure if thats helpful or not. PS im new to this stuff so noob friendly responses please!
Were you rooted at all? Did you modify your system in any way (froze or uninstalled stock apps)? If so, that's why.
Go here to get yourself back in shape:
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
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i used a one click root method and always used voodoo ota rootkeeper other than that i havent changed anything else.
i will try this link and post back in a couple hours i have to go take care of a few things. thank you for the quick response.
KiraTheSavior said:
i used a one click root method and always used voodoo ota rootkeeper other than that i havent changed anything else
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That's your issue. You can't do an OTA after you've rooted since the OTA does a verification to ensure the system isn't modified in any way.
Go to the link I posted in my previous reply to you to get yourself updated to Kit Kat and then unlock you bootloader if you haven't since the KK update put the bootloader exploit back in.
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That's your issue. You can't do an OTA after you've rooted since the OTA does a verification to ensure the system isn't modified in any way.
Go to the link I posted in my previous reply to you to get yourself updated to Kit Kat and then unlock you bootloader if you haven't since the KK update put the bootloader exploit back in.
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attempting it now. will post results.
it worked!
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attempting it now. will post results.
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it worked im on kitkat and everythings great! thank you so much for the help! it was really easy with the step by step you linked. now i think ill try rooting and unlocking, if i mess it up i can always flash it like i just did and fix it right?
could you link me to the root/unlock tutorial for my phone? sorry im noob XD
Just to be sure, you didn't update to the latest soak that just came out, correct? You are on the previous Kit Kat OTA right?
If you haven't applied the latest soak (183.46.10.XT926), then you are golden and can unlock. ONLY apply the soak update AFTER you've unlocked your bootloader.
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Just to be sure, you didn't update to the latest soak that just came out, correct? You are on the previous Kit Kat OTA right?
If you haven't applied the latest soak (183.46.10.XT926), then you are golden and can unlock. ONLY apply the soak update AFTER you've unlocked your bootloader.
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no my system information says 183.46.10 i dont know what a soak update is i just clicked install on that annoying install 4.4 update message ive had for weeks (which broke my phone) other than that i havent done anything. is my phone rootable?
KiraTheSavior said:
no my system information says 183.46.10 i dont know what a soak update is i just clicked install on that annoying install 4.4 update message ive had for weeks (which broke my phone) other than that i havent done anything. is my phone rootable?
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You should have just ignored the update until after you unlocked the phone. The link I sent you to was meant to get you updated to KK before the 183.46.10 update. The previous KK update allowed you to unlock your bootloader. Now, that is no longer possible. There is no way to downgrade to a previous version. Once the ability to unlock has been patched, you cannot go back and try to unlock it.
You can still root the phone, though. Search for towelroot and you can install that and run it to root your device.
One thing you could try is once you've rooted, try running Motopocalypse to see if it will unlock your bootloader. Either it will or it won't. It won't hurt your phone in any way or brick it.
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iBolski said:
It's rootable but it's not unlockable anymore. You have lost the ability to unlock the bootloader. There is no way to downgrade to a previous version. Once the ability to unlock has been patched, you cannot go back and try to unlock it.
Search for towelroot and you can install that and run it to root your device.
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figures. thats me always a day late and a dollar short.
KiraTheSavior said:
figures. thats me always a day late and a dollar short.
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WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! My bad. You should be okay to unlock!
Please go here and attempt it -> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/46155-rootunlock-442-182183-razr-hdm-only/
Get Towelroot and run it. This should root your phone -> http://www.towelroot.com/
Next, get the motopocalypse apk from here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53428225&postcount=22
Install and run that on your phone. That should then unlock your bootloader.
So, you are fine. I completely brain farted that the soak test hasn't been sent to everyone. It is available to download and install, but don't do it yet.
PLEASE go and unlock your phone. I'm so sorry for the confusion.
Let me know how it goes!
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figures. thats me always a day late and a dollar short.
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is there a working exploit to make the mobile hotspot app work again? i always used the sqlite exploit to turn off subscription check but its still set to 0 on mine and the hotspot still wont work. im rooted by the way
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KiraTheSavior said:
is there a working exploit to make the mobile hotspot app work again? i always used the sqlite exploit to turn off subscription check but its still set to 0 on mine and the hotspot still wont work. im rooted by the way
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my system version says 183.46.10xt926 that link says its not unlockable. when i used the link in your original post to get my phone working again I automatically had this version. so i cant unlock right? ?_?
KiraTheSavior said:
my system version says 183.46.10xt926 that link says its not unlockable. when i used the link in your original post to get my phone working again I automatically had this version. so i cant unlock right? ?_?
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No, that is the version you CAN unlock. At first, it was believed it couldn't happen, but someone discovered that Moto had accidentally added the bootloader unlock exploit back in with the KK release. It's the version after that, which hasn't been released yet but will be soon, that patches the exploit back up to no allow it. The zip file for it is available outside of the soak test so it hasn't been sent to you. What you took was the OTA you do want which does allow unlocking.
Please, go unlock your phone now before the OTA is released and then you'll be forever locked.
Go here to unlock it -> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/46155-rootunlock-442-182183-razr-hdm-only/
Do it now before you do anything else. Do NOT apply the soak test OTA (which is available via a media fire link from SamuriHL) until you've unlocked your phone.
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Rooted and unlocked. Very happy about it. But now what? What can I get with bootloader unlocked besides revert to jb?
I still need to get my WiFi tether app to work. I'm grandfathered into unlimited data so my phone is basically my internet. Are there any cool ROMs where the WiFi just works with no tricks or work a rounds?
What are the advantages.
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What are the advantages.
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Advantages:
Latest security changes that include security fixes in 4.4.4 revision.
Supposedly, fixes blue-tooth issues.
Some say better battery life.
Disadvantages:
Security fixes which means Towelroot exploit is patched.
Security fixes - in original KK OTA for this phone, you could unlock the bootloader. If you take the latest update and haven't unlocked your bootloader, you will be SOL for unlocking the bootloader AND rooting the phone.
Some say battery life is worse.
Some say blue-tooth isn't fixed.
I'm trying to help my buddy root his Razr Maxx HD, but he already took the 182.46.15 update, which breaks Towelroot. Is there a way to flash back to 182.46.10 so he can use Towelroot & unlock the bootloader?
boothroyd917 said:
I'm trying to help my buddy root his Razr Maxx HD, but he already took the 182.46.15 update, which breaks Towelroot. Is there a way to flash back to 182.46.10 so he can use Towelroot & unlock the bootloader?
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No. Once he took the 183.46.15 update, the trusted partitions that would have allowed you to unlock the bootloader were overwritten and there is NO way, repeat, NO way to revert back to the previous version. It won't allow writing to those trusted zones with older versions. There is NO way to fool it due to checksums, so don't try or ask. It's been asked thousands of times all with the same answer.
iBolski said:
No. Once he took the 183.46.15 update, the trusted partitions that would have allowed you to unlock the bootloader were overwritten and there is NO way, repeat, NO way to revert back to the previous version. It won't allow writing to those trusted zones with older versions. There is NO way to fool it due to checksums, so don't try or ask. It's been asked thousands of times all with the same answer.
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Can you not use the method of unlocking the boot loader found on motorola's website to unlock and root?
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
jwdink said:
Can you not use the method of unlocking the boot loader found on motorola's website to unlock and root?
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
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No. As I said, there is NO way to unlock it, legally or illegally.
The unlock tool on Moto's site is for a select set of phones. The XT926 is not one of them.
Face it. There is NO way to unlock the bootloader now that it's on 183.46.15. That option is gone. I don't know how much more I can stress that fact.
root 183.46.15 version of KitKat 4.4.2
boothroyd917 said:
I'm trying to help my buddy root his Razr Maxx HD, but he already took the 182.46.15 update, which breaks Towelroot. Is there a way to flash back to 182.46.10 so he can use Towelroot & unlock the bootloader?
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Yes, there is a method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/xda-assist/method-to-downgrade-root-183-46-15-t3051019
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Yes, there is a method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/xda-assist/method-to-downgrade-root-183-46-15-t3051019
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No, you cannot unlock .15 yet.
Thos method only works for unlocked bootloader. This was made up for phones already unlocked which have lost root access after an firmware upgrade.
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