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Hello Members !
I am a long time lurker here, a year or so now since I bought my I9300. Thanks for everything. Made an account for my specific problem. Anyhow now that I have an account I hope to be more active here and share what I've learnt and learn some more along the way :laugh:
My dilemma is the upcoming androidization, so to speak, of my household. I have a I9300, and I will be buying two more Androids for my parents by the end of October just before Diwali (Indian Festival, like Christmas in the sense that lots of shopping and of course victory of good over evil yada yada yada)
So, first question, my aim is to have some sort of sync between the devices in the neighborhood of the following, just to give you an idea,
1) Dynamic Shopping Lists - You know like if the three of us could update it from our own respective devices. Something my parents can use too. I can handle a fairly high amount of complexity but they cant so please keep that in mind while helping me out. I was thinking of making a new common Google ID and using Google keep as a common cloud notebook ? Has anyone tried this ? Any other suggestion ?
2) Communication between us - Like I now know Whatsapp can be used with Wifi at home, and 3G outside, Skype too the same way I suppose, any other apps you know of ? I am the geek in my home as I said but I cannot expect the same out of my parents.They are totally new and unexposed to smartphones , let alone android. One of them uses Nokia N8 , the other has a sorry excuse for a smartphone based on S40 , the Nokia C2. So you see, uncomplicated apps would be nice, even the ones I could check on or setup from time to time but requiring minimal effort from their side.
3) Photo Sharing (Even Video if possible but not a necessity) - I know ! Facebook. But what you don't know is that they are not and will not get on social networking sites anytime soon if at all, so any suggestions as to how to get them to share stuff easily with me and among themselves ?
Face to face we have NFC and Wifi Direct ( Sorry I am from Sammy background , I think other androids all it Android beam ? ) but when apart , sharing options through WIFI / 3G/ 2G , app suggestions please ??
Second question, some specific uses, how would you harness the power of android if your whole family was using Androids , even the same model if need be
1) Some family specific Apps ? I found a few on Google play but I sincerely would like recommendations. Base requirements is nothing too high fi , even the most basic app would suffice, location tracking and all that is nice , though even if I get an app that just is a simple glorified diary even then it could work, it just has to be a little polished and easy to use.
2) How do I keep control over all these phones? I am sure the parents will take time to learn it fully. So maintenance tasks ? Example - Do I make a new Google ID for the family as such and then handle the updating and installation of apps from there ? For the future too, they would require another phone each and 2 tablets. So Around the middle of next year, I would be unofficial "tech support" for 5-6 phones and at least 2 tablets. What would you recommend me to start with so that I don't face problems down the line ?
And finally , the last question, What FUN can I have with more than one devices in my home and what about them ?
1) Age specific apps ? Any of you who have older parents and have seen that they prefer using some apps , please let me know !
2) What phones should I buy ?
My mother is sold on the NOTE 2 ( Note 3 if the price is right when it comes in a few days now), mostly because of the stylus , she thinks making notes and shopping lists as I mentioned above would be easier for her on the NOTE with the stylus, rather than a keyboard. Any better suggestions ? Dad likes something stylish and I was thinking HTC ONE , there is only one drawback , that is the lack of a extendable storage , he is someone who really keeps on recording stuff from TV and makes me digitize those songs / programs / what not so I am thinking of getting him a 64 GB card and see an old man wonder with amazement that he can carry practically the whole nine seasons of X Files in his pocket So I thought maybe S4 /S3 or Note 2/ Note 3 as it happens. I would upgrade my own phone too, keeping this S3 as my secondary and finally putting the N958GB , my current back up, to the deep sleep in my footlocker along with my previous phones , yes, somehow I cant seem to make my heart to get rid of my old tech stuff , even have a Riva TNT 2 lying in there.
If you think that buying same model for all three of us would help in automation that would be acceptable too. Or you could suggest a nice cocktail of models if you think that would better suit me. I really want to get them to experience Android so I really would appreciate all the help you could provide. Any Ideas as to what all stuff they can and I can use android for in our daily lives as a family would be appreciated too.
Thank for reading guys, looking forward for the replies Cheers! :good:
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1) Some family specific Apps ? I found a few on Google play but I sincerely would like recommendations. Base requirements is nothing too high fi , even the most basic app would suffice, location tracking and all that is nice , though even if I get an app that just is a simple glorified diary even then it could work, it just has to be a little polished and easy to use.
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I use "HomeBudget with Sync" app. It is different from other budgeting apps because one can create a group in it. Members of the family can each install it on their devices and join the group. So each member can add his/her expenses and incomes, and the budget can be calculated and reviewed for the whole family!
Thanks a lot. It solves many things. A few more questions...
1.Anything to talk/text/video over the hjome wifi network amongst ourselves other than skype ? I am able to use skype but any alternatives would do.
2. How to set up Any.do for multiple members ? So that each can edit and view tasks ?
Thanks a ton, once again :good:
Hey there everyone,
I am Mark, a representative from Razer’s Developer Relations team for our latest wearable – the Razer Nabu. I’m posting here to let you guys know that our wearable is available on an open SDK and we hope that you guys will be interested to sign up for our Developer Program. We also have a Reward Scheme for devs that allows you to receive up to $200 worth of RazerStore vouchers! This of course, is dependent on the quality of the app and level of integration.
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I've just pre-ordered the Nabu. I've been waiting for this device for what seems like forever and I'm looking forward to what the developer community has in store for us.. but I'm a bit surprised at the lack of posts here in this thread. What kind of third party apps can we look forward to Mark? I cant wait till the device ships on the 6th of October
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I've just pre-ordered the Nabu. I've been waiting for this device for what seems like forever and I'm looking forward to what the developer community has in store for us.. but I'm a bit surprised at the lack of posts here in this thread. What kind of third party apps can we look forward to Mark? I cant wait till the device ships on the 6th of October
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To be hoenst I thought that would be better... Is quite pricy... =S
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I am Mark, a representative from Razer’s Developer Relations team ...
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Hello,
would your team consider creating a feature that I've seen a lot of people across the web ask for:
Syncing with Samsung S Health app, or at least an option to manually import data from my Nabu x to S Health app.
Thanks in advance for considering.
Cheers from Portugal!
Hey guys, new to the S2, and smartwatches, etc. What fitness apps are recommended? S-Health on it doesn't seem to do much, and the heart rate monitor only checks when I hit the widget... Sooo pretty much only step count right out of the box.
While I'm at it, what other apps are recommended? I do not need notifications for anything outside of text and calls, so anything like that is unnecessary. But I am trying to get the most out of this thing, so let me know!
Please and thanks!
Seriously, nothing? Are there no apps to recommend?
It depends what are you looking for. I saw some apps, but haven't tried them (I use special watch for sport tracking):
- Fit Evolution
- Lifesum
- Nike
- PEAR
... Search App Manager for fitness.
Thanks. I did a search too, but I was hoping some people could tell me what's good or not. Most have good and bad reviews. Guess I'll just start trying things
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Hey guys, new to the S2, and smartwatches, etc. What fitness apps are recommended? S-Health on it doesn't seem to do much, and the heart rate monitor only checks when I hit the widget... Sooo pretty much only step count right out of the box.
While I'm at it, what other apps are recommended? I do not need notifications for anything outside of text and calls, so anything like that is unnecessary. But I am trying to get the most out of this thing, so let me know!
Please and thanks!
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S Health and Nike are the two apps that come with the watch, and as others have noticed, a number of other more specialized apps are dribbling out. S Health automatically checks heart rate (you can set it to "try" to measure every 10 minutes or every hour throughout the day), and also has routines the user can initiate for running, walking, cycling, hiking, elliptical, exercise bike, step machine, and treadmill. All of them record heart rate, some of them more: cycling, for example, also tracks your route, altitude, and speed throughout your ride.
Any apps out there for measuring rowing?? Besides heart rate, that is.
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Any apps out there for measuring rowing?? Besides heart rate, that is.
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Something I would like to. I'd really also like something that senses and accounts for other types of exercises outside of running/biking/etc., such as lifting weights, sit-ups, these kinds of things. Fitbit offers this with their Alta (who knows how well it works though...). At least something that you can enter in the reps, etc. for each workout and calculates calories burned.
Does Strava work here?
I've released two fitness apps so for: Always-On Speed and Always-On Pace. They don't track your activity though, all they do is show current time and your speed or pace.
When I bike, I use Endomondo on my phone for tracking and Always-On Speed on my watch so that I can always see the most important instantaneous information, which is time and speed, of course
Apps I Use Daily
Daily Usage Apps, Professional & Personal
- S Health (does the tracking I need at work, home, etc. love it so much.)
- Workout Trainer (helps me work out daily, even with only 5 minutes of time)
- Lifesum (track food)
- Heart Rate
- Water & Caffeine Intake
- Tip Calculator
- Here Maps
- Flipboard
I'm looking into others but these I use a lot.
Endomondo will be released soon for the Gear S2 and S3.
My apps (Always-On Speed and Always-On Pace) have been there for while.
UnderArmour just released MapMyRun and Endomondo.
I have been using SHealth for a while to track runs. It works, doesn't use too much battery, but I have a lot of issues with the way they present data. Like splits and pace are in miles per hour and there is no way to see your actual average pace while running (only an instantaneous pace, which jumps all over the place). Also the watch only displays one thing at a time, so elapsed time is on one screen and you have to move to another screen to see distance, which is annoying. Then you have to mentally do the math to figure out your average min/mile pace, which on a 20 mile run gets harder and harder to do as mental function starts to break down...
I just downloaded MapMyRun (never used it before) and I like the interface better. It allegedly connects to SHealth so I can store my history of workouts there. It also displays elapsed time and distance on the same screen in big bold numbers, which is nice. Also has an average pace if you swipe down. We will see, I'll try using it for a while.
S Health distance and heartrate are not accurate. Off by .5 for a 1.5 walk and heartrate 30 plus more that it measures manually.
Yes, i agree with rogerperk and it's impossible to change manualy the distance after the run, sad. I hope it'will be updated soon bacause in other ways, it's a good app.
Hi,
I want to do a little survey about redesign my app. Somebody may remember it - Elevation Tracker (here you can find some info: https://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s3/themes/app-elevation-tracker-gear-app-store-t3635451). I'm using it for a year and I want to find out if there will be enough interest from users.
Mission
To make the most out of the Gear S3's barometric data.
Default Altimeter has nice design, but it's not so practical.
Features
Algorithm for automatic recognizing of altitude change due to movement or barometric change due to weather. Example: You are sitting in the office for 4 hours withnout movement, than took a lunch in the kitchen - two floors higher, then come back for another 4 hours. The weather changes during the day, raining...
Samsung's altimeter: Shows growing the altitude, because the pressure decreases. Looks like you ascended 50m, descended 6m.
This app: Altitude is polished by Suunto algorithm (rule = alti change less than 2 meters in 2 minuts is marked as weather change). It shows you exacly ascended 6m and descended 6m. Graph is clearly flat when you are sitting, ignoring weather changes.
Ascended and descended elevation counter in selected interval. You can go 30 days back in precision of 1 minute. Of course, only if Gear S3 is turned on. Otherwise, gap if filled by flat line.
Using the bezel, you can read single altitude at specified time (date pickers, time pickers implemented). At specified time, you can calibrate altitude, which is taken as reference point for whole selected interval.
Graph shows MIN / MAX.
Main problem
It's not possible to support Tizen OS 2.3 and 3.0 at the same time. That's the reason I deleted the app from store. I updated it to support OS 3.0, but many users are still on 2.3 (I don't know why). Samsung did there very very bad job, unpossible to support both OS at the same time. Also, OS 3.0 is full of bugs for developers, but that is another story...
I like the circle graph. But most of you don't. So I want to add other layouts, recommended by you!
What I need from you
Do you want to use this app? Are you using Tizen OS 3.0? (app will not support OS 2.3)
Please help me with layout, post here some samples. It is easy to redesign the app now, because I have working core. But when I look at Garmin Fenix 5 or Suunto Spartan (see layouts in attached files) altimeters, I'm not sure if that is what the most pople want.
What another function you would like to see in the app?
Donate would be nice - in XDA profile The app will be always free, as it's mainly for me
Other...
My idea of using this app is:
-You are on trail and you can switch Gear S3 to offline mode with display turned off. At evening, in basecamp, you can analyse altitude data. Or event after 30 days!
-During working day, you can easily track when did you used elevator, went the steps etc...
The process of loading a new data (when you select new interval):
1. Graph of barometric pressure[blue] ->
2. Graph of calculated altitude[orange] ->
3. Graph of polished altitude[green], now bezel is enabled.
Thank you so much for ideas!!
Hey mate,
i've been here on XDA for a while now, but you got my attention enough to finally make an account.
I'd love to support you and your app, but first of all, it needs to be downloadable in Europe (Gears S3 frontier, without LTE).
As a gliderpilot this App could be a real help.
Some ideas include:
- Increase and decrease of altitude (in ft/min and m/s)
- Warning at: above, below, passing through a certain height
- Time between heights (interesting for high altitude hikers as well, like: above XXX ft for YY minutes)
As a pilot I also would like to see the glide slope, but this wouldn't fit into this app.
I'd like to offer my help as developer. I'm goood in C#/Photoshop but never have written something for Tizen. I would need some advice.
Otherwise i could offer a donation (but prefer to work^^)
Greetings
Diego
Hi Diego,
thank you for your post!
About developing for Tizen - it's a bit nightmare It is not difficult, the problem is OS bugs and no compatibility between different versions of OS, which cause bad reviews, which caused suspend of my apps in store. I want to support only latest OS for Gear S3.
Overall, it's not a problem to code your ideas at all. I'm using chart.js, where it's possible to graph almost everything.
I'm using this app a lot by myself, but I deleted it from the store, because OS 3.0 has a bug with rotary bezel (bezel is frozen after date/time picker shows) and I don't want to receive bad reviews. I may rename it as "beta" and post it again...
About your effort, it would be really helpful to design a layout in Photoshop. Than I can try to code it.
As the app is now working in history mode (browsing collected data (1 sample minute)), I would imagine splitting the app for
REAL-TIME mode (new)
HISTORY mode
So, what do you think about making some layouts?
Thanks!
Really interested in this app for Tizen 3.0.
Will it be available in the app store at some point?
Hi Dev,
Thanks for your work.
I used and installed your app, but as many users say, the 360 deg chart is counter-intuitive and ended up uninstalling.
I very much prefer the Suunto one, Garmin in second place.
Altitude charts always with linear x-y axis in my opinion, very intuitive.
Have you considered using altitude data based on location (like Strava does) instead of relying on barometric changes?
If the chart was linear I'd be happy to use again and donate.
IIRC, it was somewhat intricate to pick the timespan for the chart -don't remember the details.
Thanks
Hello,
but many users are still on 2.3 (I don't know why) => because there is not Tizen os 3 on some devices (Gear S2 for instance).
I’ve just reset my watch because I have to change my phone.
There is no way to get all old apps
Dashboard Watchface and altimeter for exemple disappears from my watch and there is no possibility to get it from Galaxy store.
What a shame. This is planned obsolescence.
Hi, blood pressure monitoring works fine (manual way) but it would be great to make it automatic, at least during sleep (like blood oxygen monitoring). Is there any way to automate the measurement?
Thanks, regards, Deni
I have not seen an option for this but it would be great
Perhaps @Dante63 can squeeze an extra page for this in his SHM MOD?
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Well BP is very sensitive to movements as you can see from manual measurements, that's the first thing...
Now, in order to call BP functionality during sleep, I'll need to include body_sensors permission so I can implement method if not moving and I'll need to check that it's not idle (I don't want to measure the charger BP lol), with all that if it was written correctly and hypothetically speaking it actually worked, I'll bump into a wall of (BP measurements failed, try not to move) or (couldn't read BP, make sure the watch is fit on your wrist bla bla bla), I suppose I could tell BP method to look away but it will say either you're dead (0/0 with BPM as 0 since it failed) or the measurements would be really abnormal...
Do you see where this is going?
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Well BP is very sensitive to movements as you can see from manual measurements, that's the first thing...
Now, in order to call BP functionality during sleep, I'll need to include body_sensors permission so I can implement method if not moving and I'll need to check that it's not idle (I don't want to measure the charger BP lol), with all that if it was written correctly and hypothetically speaking it actually worked, I'll bump into a wall of (BP measurements failed, try not to move) or (couldn't read BP, make sure the watch is fit on your wrist bla bla bla), I suppose I could tell BP method to look away but it will say either you're dead (0/0 with BPM as 0 since it failed) or the measurements would be really abnormal...
Do you see where this is going?
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Yes, the watch would need to get into a trial and error loop until you get a correct reading, presumably how the current automatic HR and SpO2 readings work. But if user interactions are hard-coded that may not fly...
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Well BP is very sensitive to movements as you can see from manual measurements, that's the first thing...
Now, in order to call BP functionality during sleep, I'll need to include body_sensors permission so I can implement method if not moving and I'll need to check that it's not idle (I don't want to measure the charger BP lol), with all that if it was written correctly and hypothetically speaking it actually worked, I'll bump into a wall of (BP measurements failed, try not to move) or (couldn't read BP, make sure the watch is fit on your wrist bla bla bla), I suppose I could tell BP method to look away but it will say either you're dead (0/0 with BPM as 0 since it failed) or the measurements would be really abnormal...
Do you see where this is going?
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I understand and thanks for thinking on it. I could imagine that it's already solved in case of SPO2 measurement, so probably it would work for BP as well. But based on your comment it wouldn't. Thanks for your comment anyway.
BP measurement cannot be taken when you are in horizontal position. You must be sitting on the chair with your arm resting on the egde of table. Exactly as your doctor does.
Hi All! Especially @Dante63 who it seems may be able to actually find a working solution for Watch4. I just wanted to come back to the topic of automatic/regular/continuous blood pressure measurements, given how hugely important this topic is. There are hundreds of millions of people worldwide with elevated/high blood pressure and I’m sure thousands of Watch4 owners who would be happy to pay maybe 20 bucks, maybe more (I would pay more) for a working solution/app for automatic BP measurement on Watch4. You see, manual BP measurement on a watch doesn’t cut it: 1) people with elevated BP already have a traditional cuff at home and the problem is they hardly ever measure their BP because they simply forget – and having a watch that can measure it in a manual process that takes a similar amount of time does not make any change here (and no one is using it on the go), and 2) BP tends to fluctuate throughout the day, so even if they do measure it at least once per day, it does not truly reflect their actual BP levels. That’s why automatic/regular/continuous BP measurement is the holy grail here – not only because, well, it’s automatic but also because it can average out the readings over time. Currently, there is only one CE-certified PPG-based continuous BP tracker, the Swiss wristband called Aktiia. This is the device we should mimic here. They just raised 17 mln USD because of their “unique” approach, just look them up. The thing is, Watch4 has better-quality sensors than Aktiia and similar BP algorithms, the only difference is that Aktiia uses the built-in accelerometer to assess whether the wearer is moving (no measurements taken) or still, either sitting or lying. Yes, lying/sleeping, which – contrary to the comment above – is actually the best time to take measurements using such a PPG-based method (see the latest research on Aktiia in Nature https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-99294-w ) By the way, HRV is best measured (most telling) in deep sleep and it is probably the case also for BP.
It is not about taking 100s of BP measurements per day – according to this review (https://gadgetsandwearables.com/2021/04/10/aktiia-bracelet-review/), “on average the bracelet would take 9-10 measurements per day” but that’s already a game changer vs manual measurements. Of course, “readings can be viewed and charted on a daily, weekly and monthly basis” – that would be great to have as well.
All in all: Aktiia is charging GBP 199 per annum and you can put them out of business by simply enabling automatic readings on Watch4 whenever the person wearing it is idle for a few minutes, based on the built-in accelerometer. That person does not need to be sitting in the exact same position like in a traditional cuff-based measurement – lying/sleeping works great, too, for example. Yes, it could attempt to take the reading dozens/hundreds of times per day, that’s OK, key is to take a few automatic readings per day. Yes, body_sensors permission would be needed, or simply filtering out BP readings of zero or super low.
Could it be done perhaps with AutoWear/Tasker?
https://www.reddit.com/r/tasker/comments/pwgc3d
Amazfit management knows that their PumpBeats is not good enough if it’s just for manual BP measurement, they already announced they will need to introduce continuous monitoring https://www.myhealthyapple.com/amaz...ssure-measurement-along-with-a-new-processor/ Huawei may also introduce it in their Watch D. But Watch4 is likely the better device for the task.
Let me know your thoughts.
Cheers
Kruel
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Hi All! Especially @Dante63 who it seems may be able to actually find a working solution for Watch4. I just wanted to come back to the topic of automatic/regular/continuous blood pressure measurements, given how hugely important this topic is. There are hundreds of millions of people worldwide with elevated/high blood pressure and I’m sure thousands of Watch4 owners who would be happy to pay maybe 20 bucks, maybe more (I would pay more) for a working solution/app for automatic BP measurement on Watch4. You see, manual BP measurement on a watch doesn’t cut it: 1) people with elevated BP already have a traditional cuff at home and the problem is they hardly ever measure their BP because they simply forget – and having a watch that can measure it in a manual process that takes a similar amount of time does not make any change here (and no one is using it on the go), and 2) BP tends to fluctuate throughout the day, so even if they do measure it at least once per day, it does not truly reflect their actual BP levels. That’s why automatic/regular/continuous BP measurement is the holy grail here – not only because, well, it’s automatic but also because it can average out the readings over time. Currently, there is only one CE-certified PPG-based continuous BP tracker, the Swiss wristband called Aktiia. This is the device we should mimic here. They just raised 17 mln USD because of their “unique” approach, just look them up. The thing is, Watch4 has better-quality sensors than Aktiia and similar BP algorithms, the only difference is that Aktiia uses the built-in accelerometer to assess whether the wearer is moving (no measurements taken) or still, either sitting or lying. Yes, lying/sleeping, which – contrary to the comment above – is actually the best time to take measurements using such a PPG-based method (see the latest research on Aktiia in Nature https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-99294-w ) By the way, HRV is best measured (most telling) in deep sleep and it is probably the case also for BP.
It is not about taking 100s of BP measurements per day – according to this review (https://gadgetsandwearables.com/2021/04/10/aktiia-bracelet-review/), “on average the bracelet would take 9-10 measurements per day” but that’s already a game changer vs manual measurements. Of course, “readings can be viewed and charted on a daily, weekly and monthly basis” – that would be great to have as well.
All in all: Aktiia is charging GBP 199 per annum and you can put them out of business by simply enabling automatic readings on Watch4 whenever the person wearing it is idle for a few minutes, based on the built-in accelerometer. That person does not need to be sitting in the exact same position like in a traditional cuff-based measurement – lying/sleeping works great, too, for example. Yes, it could attempt to take the reading dozens/hundreds of times per day, that’s OK, key is to take a few automatic readings per day. Yes, body_sensors permission would be needed, or simply filtering out BP readings of zero or super low.
Could it be done perhaps with AutoWear/Tasker?
https://www.reddit.com/r/tasker/comments/pwgc3d
Amazfit management knows that their PumpBeats is not good enough if it’s just for manual BP measurement, they already announced they will need to introduce continuous monitoring https://www.myhealthyapple.com/amaz...ssure-measurement-along-with-a-new-processor/ Huawei may also introduce it in their Watch D. But Watch4 is likely the better device for the task.
Let me know your thoughts.
Cheers
Kruel
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My thought is that we are likely to see that in Watch 5 or 6. Samsung needs first to have its BP monitor certified in the US.
Could be, could be, maybe, but it's just tiring to always wait for that next-gen, next year's watch/wearable, especially that the solution is really within reach now, just a few tweaks away. You know, Apple Watch has been rumored to get BP monitoring for years https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/apple-watch-could-measure-blood-pressure.html (or blood glucose, for that matter, which would be cool https://9to5mac.com/2017/04/12/apple-watch-diabetes-treatment/).
I live in Switzerland, so I personally don't care about FDA clearance, and it's very difficult, only one PPG-based BP tracking wearable ever got it - two years ago and you still can't really buy it as an individual https://www.prnewswire.com/il/news-...s-monitoring-of-blood-pressure-300906765.html If a device gets clearance from CE, Korean or Chinese FDA-equivalent, it's good enough, probably not extremely accurate (same as most traditional cuff-based monitors btw), but good for trend monitoring and figuring put over time what makes one's BP elevated.
Now, blood glucose monitoring is super-hard, maybe Apple Watch 14 or Watch 10 will get it, along with continuous blood alcohol and lactate tracking based on Rockley's Clinic-on-the-Wrist tech (unless it proves to be a scam).
But there are 2 functionalities available today that could be embedded in Watch 4 or any other device with this sensor kit: automatic BP monitoring (as explained at length above) and more accurate sleep staging deep/light/REM/awake (where Watch 4 completely sucks, same as all other smartwatches out there). Oura Ring 3 will probably get reasonably close to gold standard PSG in 2022 and Google's Verily is also getting close - but then, they don't even have a device in the market, maybe some future Fitbit https://www.nature.com/articles/s41746-020-0291-x But well, that's another story altogether..
Hi All, especially @Dante63 - any final comments on the topic? Any chance to get automatic BP measurement with GW4 most importantly during sleep when there is virtually no movement? If this was possible, I would buy Samsung, otherwise I will get an Amazfit/Zepp watch as they will soon enable 24/7 BP monitoring (with the same hardware/sensors as GW4)
https://rednews.top/science/57210.html
Cheers
Kruel