Hi, blood pressure monitoring works fine (manual way) but it would be great to make it automatic, at least during sleep (like blood oxygen monitoring). Is there any way to automate the measurement?
Thanks, regards, Deni
I have not seen an option for this but it would be great
Perhaps @Dante63 can squeeze an extra page for this in his SHM MOD?
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Perhaps @Dante63 can squeeze an extra page for this in his SHM MOD?
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Well BP is very sensitive to movements as you can see from manual measurements, that's the first thing...
Now, in order to call BP functionality during sleep, I'll need to include body_sensors permission so I can implement method if not moving and I'll need to check that it's not idle (I don't want to measure the charger BP lol), with all that if it was written correctly and hypothetically speaking it actually worked, I'll bump into a wall of (BP measurements failed, try not to move) or (couldn't read BP, make sure the watch is fit on your wrist bla bla bla), I suppose I could tell BP method to look away but it will say either you're dead (0/0 with BPM as 0 since it failed) or the measurements would be really abnormal...
Do you see where this is going?
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Well BP is very sensitive to movements as you can see from manual measurements, that's the first thing...
Now, in order to call BP functionality during sleep, I'll need to include body_sensors permission so I can implement method if not moving and I'll need to check that it's not idle (I don't want to measure the charger BP lol), with all that if it was written correctly and hypothetically speaking it actually worked, I'll bump into a wall of (BP measurements failed, try not to move) or (couldn't read BP, make sure the watch is fit on your wrist bla bla bla), I suppose I could tell BP method to look away but it will say either you're dead (0/0 with BPM as 0 since it failed) or the measurements would be really abnormal...
Do you see where this is going?
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Yes, the watch would need to get into a trial and error loop until you get a correct reading, presumably how the current automatic HR and SpO2 readings work. But if user interactions are hard-coded that may not fly...
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Well BP is very sensitive to movements as you can see from manual measurements, that's the first thing...
Now, in order to call BP functionality during sleep, I'll need to include body_sensors permission so I can implement method if not moving and I'll need to check that it's not idle (I don't want to measure the charger BP lol), with all that if it was written correctly and hypothetically speaking it actually worked, I'll bump into a wall of (BP measurements failed, try not to move) or (couldn't read BP, make sure the watch is fit on your wrist bla bla bla), I suppose I could tell BP method to look away but it will say either you're dead (0/0 with BPM as 0 since it failed) or the measurements would be really abnormal...
Do you see where this is going?
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I understand and thanks for thinking on it. I could imagine that it's already solved in case of SPO2 measurement, so probably it would work for BP as well. But based on your comment it wouldn't. Thanks for your comment anyway.
BP measurement cannot be taken when you are in horizontal position. You must be sitting on the chair with your arm resting on the egde of table. Exactly as your doctor does.
Hi All! Especially @Dante63 who it seems may be able to actually find a working solution for Watch4. I just wanted to come back to the topic of automatic/regular/continuous blood pressure measurements, given how hugely important this topic is. There are hundreds of millions of people worldwide with elevated/high blood pressure and I’m sure thousands of Watch4 owners who would be happy to pay maybe 20 bucks, maybe more (I would pay more) for a working solution/app for automatic BP measurement on Watch4. You see, manual BP measurement on a watch doesn’t cut it: 1) people with elevated BP already have a traditional cuff at home and the problem is they hardly ever measure their BP because they simply forget – and having a watch that can measure it in a manual process that takes a similar amount of time does not make any change here (and no one is using it on the go), and 2) BP tends to fluctuate throughout the day, so even if they do measure it at least once per day, it does not truly reflect their actual BP levels. That’s why automatic/regular/continuous BP measurement is the holy grail here – not only because, well, it’s automatic but also because it can average out the readings over time. Currently, there is only one CE-certified PPG-based continuous BP tracker, the Swiss wristband called Aktiia. This is the device we should mimic here. They just raised 17 mln USD because of their “unique” approach, just look them up. The thing is, Watch4 has better-quality sensors than Aktiia and similar BP algorithms, the only difference is that Aktiia uses the built-in accelerometer to assess whether the wearer is moving (no measurements taken) or still, either sitting or lying. Yes, lying/sleeping, which – contrary to the comment above – is actually the best time to take measurements using such a PPG-based method (see the latest research on Aktiia in Nature https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-99294-w ) By the way, HRV is best measured (most telling) in deep sleep and it is probably the case also for BP.
It is not about taking 100s of BP measurements per day – according to this review (https://gadgetsandwearables.com/2021/04/10/aktiia-bracelet-review/), “on average the bracelet would take 9-10 measurements per day” but that’s already a game changer vs manual measurements. Of course, “readings can be viewed and charted on a daily, weekly and monthly basis” – that would be great to have as well.
All in all: Aktiia is charging GBP 199 per annum and you can put them out of business by simply enabling automatic readings on Watch4 whenever the person wearing it is idle for a few minutes, based on the built-in accelerometer. That person does not need to be sitting in the exact same position like in a traditional cuff-based measurement – lying/sleeping works great, too, for example. Yes, it could attempt to take the reading dozens/hundreds of times per day, that’s OK, key is to take a few automatic readings per day. Yes, body_sensors permission would be needed, or simply filtering out BP readings of zero or super low.
Could it be done perhaps with AutoWear/Tasker?
https://www.reddit.com/r/tasker/comments/pwgc3d
Amazfit management knows that their PumpBeats is not good enough if it’s just for manual BP measurement, they already announced they will need to introduce continuous monitoring https://www.myhealthyapple.com/amaz...ssure-measurement-along-with-a-new-processor/ Huawei may also introduce it in their Watch D. But Watch4 is likely the better device for the task.
Let me know your thoughts.
Cheers
Kruel
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Hi All! Especially @Dante63 who it seems may be able to actually find a working solution for Watch4. I just wanted to come back to the topic of automatic/regular/continuous blood pressure measurements, given how hugely important this topic is. There are hundreds of millions of people worldwide with elevated/high blood pressure and I’m sure thousands of Watch4 owners who would be happy to pay maybe 20 bucks, maybe more (I would pay more) for a working solution/app for automatic BP measurement on Watch4. You see, manual BP measurement on a watch doesn’t cut it: 1) people with elevated BP already have a traditional cuff at home and the problem is they hardly ever measure their BP because they simply forget – and having a watch that can measure it in a manual process that takes a similar amount of time does not make any change here (and no one is using it on the go), and 2) BP tends to fluctuate throughout the day, so even if they do measure it at least once per day, it does not truly reflect their actual BP levels. That’s why automatic/regular/continuous BP measurement is the holy grail here – not only because, well, it’s automatic but also because it can average out the readings over time. Currently, there is only one CE-certified PPG-based continuous BP tracker, the Swiss wristband called Aktiia. This is the device we should mimic here. They just raised 17 mln USD because of their “unique” approach, just look them up. The thing is, Watch4 has better-quality sensors than Aktiia and similar BP algorithms, the only difference is that Aktiia uses the built-in accelerometer to assess whether the wearer is moving (no measurements taken) or still, either sitting or lying. Yes, lying/sleeping, which – contrary to the comment above – is actually the best time to take measurements using such a PPG-based method (see the latest research on Aktiia in Nature https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-99294-w ) By the way, HRV is best measured (most telling) in deep sleep and it is probably the case also for BP.
It is not about taking 100s of BP measurements per day – according to this review (https://gadgetsandwearables.com/2021/04/10/aktiia-bracelet-review/), “on average the bracelet would take 9-10 measurements per day” but that’s already a game changer vs manual measurements. Of course, “readings can be viewed and charted on a daily, weekly and monthly basis” – that would be great to have as well.
All in all: Aktiia is charging GBP 199 per annum and you can put them out of business by simply enabling automatic readings on Watch4 whenever the person wearing it is idle for a few minutes, based on the built-in accelerometer. That person does not need to be sitting in the exact same position like in a traditional cuff-based measurement – lying/sleeping works great, too, for example. Yes, it could attempt to take the reading dozens/hundreds of times per day, that’s OK, key is to take a few automatic readings per day. Yes, body_sensors permission would be needed, or simply filtering out BP readings of zero or super low.
Could it be done perhaps with AutoWear/Tasker?
https://www.reddit.com/r/tasker/comments/pwgc3d
Amazfit management knows that their PumpBeats is not good enough if it’s just for manual BP measurement, they already announced they will need to introduce continuous monitoring https://www.myhealthyapple.com/amaz...ssure-measurement-along-with-a-new-processor/ Huawei may also introduce it in their Watch D. But Watch4 is likely the better device for the task.
Let me know your thoughts.
Cheers
Kruel
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My thought is that we are likely to see that in Watch 5 or 6. Samsung needs first to have its BP monitor certified in the US.
Could be, could be, maybe, but it's just tiring to always wait for that next-gen, next year's watch/wearable, especially that the solution is really within reach now, just a few tweaks away. You know, Apple Watch has been rumored to get BP monitoring for years https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/apple-watch-could-measure-blood-pressure.html (or blood glucose, for that matter, which would be cool https://9to5mac.com/2017/04/12/apple-watch-diabetes-treatment/).
I live in Switzerland, so I personally don't care about FDA clearance, and it's very difficult, only one PPG-based BP tracking wearable ever got it - two years ago and you still can't really buy it as an individual https://www.prnewswire.com/il/news-...s-monitoring-of-blood-pressure-300906765.html If a device gets clearance from CE, Korean or Chinese FDA-equivalent, it's good enough, probably not extremely accurate (same as most traditional cuff-based monitors btw), but good for trend monitoring and figuring put over time what makes one's BP elevated.
Now, blood glucose monitoring is super-hard, maybe Apple Watch 14 or Watch 10 will get it, along with continuous blood alcohol and lactate tracking based on Rockley's Clinic-on-the-Wrist tech (unless it proves to be a scam).
But there are 2 functionalities available today that could be embedded in Watch 4 or any other device with this sensor kit: automatic BP monitoring (as explained at length above) and more accurate sleep staging deep/light/REM/awake (where Watch 4 completely sucks, same as all other smartwatches out there). Oura Ring 3 will probably get reasonably close to gold standard PSG in 2022 and Google's Verily is also getting close - but then, they don't even have a device in the market, maybe some future Fitbit https://www.nature.com/articles/s41746-020-0291-x But well, that's another story altogether..
Hi All, especially @Dante63 - any final comments on the topic? Any chance to get automatic BP measurement with GW4 most importantly during sleep when there is virtually no movement? If this was possible, I would buy Samsung, otherwise I will get an Amazfit/Zepp watch as they will soon enable 24/7 BP monitoring (with the same hardware/sensors as GW4)
https://rednews.top/science/57210.html
Cheers
Kruel
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Something that records distance, average speed, total height climbed/descended, graphical outputs of speed v distance etc?
I've found a few different programs, but nothing that's amazing.
Anyone have any ideas? Cheers.
Lemme know if you find one u like, k?
Have you tried Memory Map. I use for hill walking and provides everything you ask for. Needs to be on Windows Mobile device.
Have you tried RunGPS?
I tried VisualGPS, TurboGPS and some other free ones and they are all kinda lousy for tracking stats while jogging. But RunGPS looks like it will work well. I downloaded it but I haven't taken it on a test run yet.
Yeah, Memory Map is good, but it doesn't do everything that I'd like. For example, I don't think you can get an graph of your speed v time etc, or elevation v time (like the application on the N95). It is very good for navigation though.
I'll have to try RunGPS.
James, have a look at TerraTrack, it's reasonably good. It gives you a colour coded route depending on speed etc. Not quite perfect for what I'm looking for though, but probably the best so far.
Hi,
Memory Map is okay. It will provide a track of where you have been, average speed, total ascent/descent, distance travelled etc. However, it is fairly limited in that it is not really designed for that. It is primarily a navigation tool.
The best thing I have found and use (only recently though) is RunGPS which Andy suggests. It is specifically designed as a training tool with a bit of navigation bolted on. It basically has a few main screens. They are
Recorder:- this is split into 8 areas where you can display speed, distance, altitude, calories, av speed, max speed etc. There are quite a lot of choices here to display so it is very customisable for your needs.
Navigation:- shows a map with a cursor following your route. You can import Google Maps or use open maps (mainly show roads so not great for off road navigation). Like memory map it will allow you to follow pre planned routes. It also has a compass on this screen.
Map:- basically a full screen map.
When riding you can record laps (ideal for timing yourself up your local favourite hill) and you can even set it up to race yourself over your favourite routes. Each run can be imported into Google Maps if you want to share where you have been with friends. There is even a web site where you can upload your routes.
A good feature of it is that you can produce a training report for each run you do (produced on a web page). It gives you a breakdown of the run based on
Speed
Calories
Altitude
Map of your route
The main recording screen has large buttons for starting and stopping your training and a split/lap button. You can set it to give an audible report of your speed, distance etc every 5, 10, 20 minutes (I use this on the road bike as I have my phone in my pocket).
Certainly for anyone riding competively it gives you most of the info you would ever need to analyse you training. The only thing you don't get is heart rate. However, you can sync you heart rate readings with this software.
Basically this software gives you all the info you would get from a cycle computer or one of the Garmin devices on your phone.
Have a look at their web site, it has screen shots and you can trial the software for 14 days.
Regards
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James, have a look at TerraTrack, it's reasonably good. It gives you a colour coded route depending on speed etc. Not quite perfect for what I'm looking for though, but probably the best so far.
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I'll take a look at it, thanks.
spangelsaregreat said:
Hi,
The best thing I have found and use (only recently though) is RunGPS which Andy suggests.
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I am just floored on how well the GPS works with rungps. I ususally am stuck waiting for a minute at least while in clear view of the sky to connect to GPS with google maps, Microsoft Live, visualgps, turbogps, and a few other free ones I cant remember the names of,,,,,but with RunGPS is connects in a seconds even if I'm not outside............
I cant wait to take it out for a jog tomorrow.
Thanks for the detailed post! I've had a play, and it looks perfect for what I want, thanks for the suggestion! Do you know what the difference between "cycling". "mountainbiking" and "race-biking" is?
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Thanks for the detailed post! I've had a play, and it looks perfect for what I want, thanks for the suggestion! Do you know what the difference between "cycling". "mountainbiking" and "race-biking" is?
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I could pretend to be all knowledgable here however to be honest I had not noticed the other options!!
I would hazard a guess they are linked to the calorie side of things. I was actually thinking about that today when I was out on my mountainbike slogging up a muddy track at 3mph. Obviously riding up a similar hill on the road would expend less calories so I am guessing the formula that works out the categories allows for this.
I guess cycling is perhaps for general leisure riding and race biking is for going a bit harder.
Regards
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I could pretend to be all knowledgable here however to be honest I had not noticed the other options!!
I would hazard a guess they are linked to the calorie side of things. I was actually thinking about that today when I was out on my mountainbike slogging up a muddy track at 3mph. Obviously riding up a similar hill on the road would expend less calories so I am guessing the formula that works out the categories allows for this.
I guess cycling is perhaps for general leisure riding and race biking is for going a bit harder.
Regards
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I thought this too at first, but surely calorie count is basically very similar regardless of the bike used? Sure, the bike's weight and efficiency will have an effect, but not enough to warrant 3 different cycling settings? You would use more calories pushing harder, but that would be reflected in your speed readings from the GPS?
Either way, cheers for the info about the software. Just what I was looking for
Hi,
Yes between cycling normally and racing on the road their should really be no difference.
However, you go considerably slower off road because of the conditions, so unless the program knows this it will think you are going less hard than on the road. Without a heart rate input (like on a Polar or similar) the program can't really know how hard you are pushing based purely on speed and altitude gained or lost.
Regards
I use Vidaone's (www.vidaone.com) MY Sport Training, this is quite an indepth program, with GPS / Polar HRM plugins also with a Windows Synchable desktop part.
I believe that they also do a diet app that also interfaces with My Sport Training.
SC
Or sportypal, almost the same type as Rungps, but with more options, and easy way for setting up goals.
Hey guys, new to the S2, and smartwatches, etc. What fitness apps are recommended? S-Health on it doesn't seem to do much, and the heart rate monitor only checks when I hit the widget... Sooo pretty much only step count right out of the box.
While I'm at it, what other apps are recommended? I do not need notifications for anything outside of text and calls, so anything like that is unnecessary. But I am trying to get the most out of this thing, so let me know!
Please and thanks!
Seriously, nothing? Are there no apps to recommend?
It depends what are you looking for. I saw some apps, but haven't tried them (I use special watch for sport tracking):
- Fit Evolution
- Lifesum
- Nike
- PEAR
... Search App Manager for fitness.
Thanks. I did a search too, but I was hoping some people could tell me what's good or not. Most have good and bad reviews. Guess I'll just start trying things
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Hey guys, new to the S2, and smartwatches, etc. What fitness apps are recommended? S-Health on it doesn't seem to do much, and the heart rate monitor only checks when I hit the widget... Sooo pretty much only step count right out of the box.
While I'm at it, what other apps are recommended? I do not need notifications for anything outside of text and calls, so anything like that is unnecessary. But I am trying to get the most out of this thing, so let me know!
Please and thanks!
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S Health and Nike are the two apps that come with the watch, and as others have noticed, a number of other more specialized apps are dribbling out. S Health automatically checks heart rate (you can set it to "try" to measure every 10 minutes or every hour throughout the day), and also has routines the user can initiate for running, walking, cycling, hiking, elliptical, exercise bike, step machine, and treadmill. All of them record heart rate, some of them more: cycling, for example, also tracks your route, altitude, and speed throughout your ride.
Any apps out there for measuring rowing?? Besides heart rate, that is.
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Any apps out there for measuring rowing?? Besides heart rate, that is.
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Something I would like to. I'd really also like something that senses and accounts for other types of exercises outside of running/biking/etc., such as lifting weights, sit-ups, these kinds of things. Fitbit offers this with their Alta (who knows how well it works though...). At least something that you can enter in the reps, etc. for each workout and calculates calories burned.
Does Strava work here?
I've released two fitness apps so for: Always-On Speed and Always-On Pace. They don't track your activity though, all they do is show current time and your speed or pace.
When I bike, I use Endomondo on my phone for tracking and Always-On Speed on my watch so that I can always see the most important instantaneous information, which is time and speed, of course
Apps I Use Daily
Daily Usage Apps, Professional & Personal
- S Health (does the tracking I need at work, home, etc. love it so much.)
- Workout Trainer (helps me work out daily, even with only 5 minutes of time)
- Lifesum (track food)
- Heart Rate
- Water & Caffeine Intake
- Tip Calculator
- Here Maps
- Flipboard
I'm looking into others but these I use a lot.
Endomondo will be released soon for the Gear S2 and S3.
My apps (Always-On Speed and Always-On Pace) have been there for while.
UnderArmour just released MapMyRun and Endomondo.
I have been using SHealth for a while to track runs. It works, doesn't use too much battery, but I have a lot of issues with the way they present data. Like splits and pace are in miles per hour and there is no way to see your actual average pace while running (only an instantaneous pace, which jumps all over the place). Also the watch only displays one thing at a time, so elapsed time is on one screen and you have to move to another screen to see distance, which is annoying. Then you have to mentally do the math to figure out your average min/mile pace, which on a 20 mile run gets harder and harder to do as mental function starts to break down...
I just downloaded MapMyRun (never used it before) and I like the interface better. It allegedly connects to SHealth so I can store my history of workouts there. It also displays elapsed time and distance on the same screen in big bold numbers, which is nice. Also has an average pace if you swipe down. We will see, I'll try using it for a while.
S Health distance and heartrate are not accurate. Off by .5 for a 1.5 walk and heartrate 30 plus more that it measures manually.
Yes, i agree with rogerperk and it's impossible to change manualy the distance after the run, sad. I hope it'will be updated soon bacause in other ways, it's a good app.
I play squash and although the watch auto-tracked my game as 'Other Workout', it would have been good to know the HR? Do you know if I could include a periodical HR check as well?
I would like to know as well as I play squash. There should be an ability to add a work out and select what you need monitoring. In this instance I would like the ability to detect HR and other sensors apart from GPS. After an hour of squash my S3 reported 47 calories burnt when in reality it would be over 10 times as much or more.
Same issue here, see: Rowing-Machine
Unclear, why there is no HR stored ...
Maybe only Samsung know what they have done here ....
Hi, at the beginning of this year i have asked samsung support the same question.
Got an standard answer and they told that the suggestion was relayed to proper technical team.
Thats all
Spoke with Samsung technical support yesterday and they said Other workout and since it doesnt support heart rate we both decided the best way to do it for the time being is the treadmill since it doesnt use GPS which is not required in squash. This is a work around now. They have passed my request as a feature request in next release to the developers for us to be able to add sports category from S health on phone to the watch.
Almost a year later, and I was curious how your tracking was working, does treadmill track movement, steps etc which is important.
Back on the court Tuesday with my new S3 and looking for a solution!
Cheers
PT
I recently got a Huawei Watch 2 Classic and coming from a Fitbit Charge 2, and am getting a bit confused with step counting and the magnitude of apps I seem to have now and the wild difference between step counting.
I realise none of them are going to 100% accurate and am just looking for a rough guide of what I am getting during the day.
So now I seem to have a variety of places I can view my step count (as I am currently wearing both the Classic & my Fitbit), and the results vary massively, an example from yesterday...
Application - Device - Total
Google Fit - Phone / Web - 5326
Google Fit - Watch 2 Classic - 5305
Daily Tracking - Watch 2 Classic - 3113
Huawei Health - Phone - 4193
Fitbit - Charge 2 - 9282
So thats a high of 9282 and a low of 3113, for the same day wearing both wearables constantly, with the difference that the Watch was on my non-dominant wrist and Fitbit was on my dominant wrist but set as such within the Fitbit app.
A couple of points I don't understand:
* Google Fit differently reports on the Phone app differs from that displayed on the Watch.
I thought it could be that the phone also records movement but shouldn't the two apps resolve to the same number for historical values?
* Daily Tracking & Health app report differently, but I thought Daily Tracking was the watch version of the Health app? as above I thought the Health phone app would record movement, but again would of thought it resolved for historical numbers
* Daily Tracking, Health & Fit are essentially using the same Watch and phone hardware, but are 1000 to 2000 steps different. I realise they probably have different algorithms for step calculation, but this seems a lot.
* Fitbit is way more!
I am looking to get a look at my step count (and would prefer to consolidate everything in Google Fit) but unsure where the differences come from and which one is more reliable and why the two Google Fit sources differ (albeit only by a small margin).
Has anyone worked out how to get them to align, or which to go with, or what is the best method to consolidate?
Any advice would be appreciated!
Fitbit has been known to over estimate step counts.
huawie watch I have proved over estimates steps after update. Fitbit and Xiaomi are more accurate.
In fact the cheapest Xiaomi is more accurate than all. I am wondering if my Huawie watch 2 has faulty sensors...
It is a shame Huawie is not addressing this...
I'm having the same issue. Currently using Pixel 2 XL and Huawei Watch 2 Classic. Please join this thread and send a bug report so we can get it fixed. Thanks! https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/77606997
Hi,
I want to do a little survey about redesign my app. Somebody may remember it - Elevation Tracker (here you can find some info: https://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s3/themes/app-elevation-tracker-gear-app-store-t3635451). I'm using it for a year and I want to find out if there will be enough interest from users.
Mission
To make the most out of the Gear S3's barometric data.
Default Altimeter has nice design, but it's not so practical.
Features
Algorithm for automatic recognizing of altitude change due to movement or barometric change due to weather. Example: You are sitting in the office for 4 hours withnout movement, than took a lunch in the kitchen - two floors higher, then come back for another 4 hours. The weather changes during the day, raining...
Samsung's altimeter: Shows growing the altitude, because the pressure decreases. Looks like you ascended 50m, descended 6m.
This app: Altitude is polished by Suunto algorithm (rule = alti change less than 2 meters in 2 minuts is marked as weather change). It shows you exacly ascended 6m and descended 6m. Graph is clearly flat when you are sitting, ignoring weather changes.
Ascended and descended elevation counter in selected interval. You can go 30 days back in precision of 1 minute. Of course, only if Gear S3 is turned on. Otherwise, gap if filled by flat line.
Using the bezel, you can read single altitude at specified time (date pickers, time pickers implemented). At specified time, you can calibrate altitude, which is taken as reference point for whole selected interval.
Graph shows MIN / MAX.
Main problem
It's not possible to support Tizen OS 2.3 and 3.0 at the same time. That's the reason I deleted the app from store. I updated it to support OS 3.0, but many users are still on 2.3 (I don't know why). Samsung did there very very bad job, unpossible to support both OS at the same time. Also, OS 3.0 is full of bugs for developers, but that is another story...
I like the circle graph. But most of you don't. So I want to add other layouts, recommended by you!
What I need from you
Do you want to use this app? Are you using Tizen OS 3.0? (app will not support OS 2.3)
Please help me with layout, post here some samples. It is easy to redesign the app now, because I have working core. But when I look at Garmin Fenix 5 or Suunto Spartan (see layouts in attached files) altimeters, I'm not sure if that is what the most pople want.
What another function you would like to see in the app?
Donate would be nice - in XDA profile The app will be always free, as it's mainly for me
Other...
My idea of using this app is:
-You are on trail and you can switch Gear S3 to offline mode with display turned off. At evening, in basecamp, you can analyse altitude data. Or event after 30 days!
-During working day, you can easily track when did you used elevator, went the steps etc...
The process of loading a new data (when you select new interval):
1. Graph of barometric pressure[blue] ->
2. Graph of calculated altitude[orange] ->
3. Graph of polished altitude[green], now bezel is enabled.
Thank you so much for ideas!!
Hey mate,
i've been here on XDA for a while now, but you got my attention enough to finally make an account.
I'd love to support you and your app, but first of all, it needs to be downloadable in Europe (Gears S3 frontier, without LTE).
As a gliderpilot this App could be a real help.
Some ideas include:
- Increase and decrease of altitude (in ft/min and m/s)
- Warning at: above, below, passing through a certain height
- Time between heights (interesting for high altitude hikers as well, like: above XXX ft for YY minutes)
As a pilot I also would like to see the glide slope, but this wouldn't fit into this app.
I'd like to offer my help as developer. I'm goood in C#/Photoshop but never have written something for Tizen. I would need some advice.
Otherwise i could offer a donation (but prefer to work^^)
Greetings
Diego
Hi Diego,
thank you for your post!
About developing for Tizen - it's a bit nightmare It is not difficult, the problem is OS bugs and no compatibility between different versions of OS, which cause bad reviews, which caused suspend of my apps in store. I want to support only latest OS for Gear S3.
Overall, it's not a problem to code your ideas at all. I'm using chart.js, where it's possible to graph almost everything.
I'm using this app a lot by myself, but I deleted it from the store, because OS 3.0 has a bug with rotary bezel (bezel is frozen after date/time picker shows) and I don't want to receive bad reviews. I may rename it as "beta" and post it again...
About your effort, it would be really helpful to design a layout in Photoshop. Than I can try to code it.
As the app is now working in history mode (browsing collected data (1 sample minute)), I would imagine splitting the app for
REAL-TIME mode (new)
HISTORY mode
So, what do you think about making some layouts?
Thanks!
Really interested in this app for Tizen 3.0.
Will it be available in the app store at some point?
Hi Dev,
Thanks for your work.
I used and installed your app, but as many users say, the 360 deg chart is counter-intuitive and ended up uninstalling.
I very much prefer the Suunto one, Garmin in second place.
Altitude charts always with linear x-y axis in my opinion, very intuitive.
Have you considered using altitude data based on location (like Strava does) instead of relying on barometric changes?
If the chart was linear I'd be happy to use again and donate.
IIRC, it was somewhat intricate to pick the timespan for the chart -don't remember the details.
Thanks
Hello,
but many users are still on 2.3 (I don't know why) => because there is not Tizen os 3 on some devices (Gear S2 for instance).
I’ve just reset my watch because I have to change my phone.
There is no way to get all old apps
Dashboard Watchface and altimeter for exemple disappears from my watch and there is no possibility to get it from Galaxy store.
What a shame. This is planned obsolescence.