Related
nexus 1,
first time flashing went back to stock to stop getting ota updates all the time and to prepare for gingerbread, did nandroid backup and copied whole of sd card to p.c.
the problem is I lost a lot of things including a lot of work related texts I need, I do not have option to restore nandroid in recovery mode.Think I lost root in process.
What I would like is to go back to what I had originally maybe backup things a little better and then go back to stock, but how do I do this with no root?
Am hoping there is a way round this without rooting.
Flashing scared me rooting scares me even more.....
thank all pro.i'm testing
Hi,
First, thanks to everyone that contributes to these forums... I've been reading them for a while and didn't need to sign up until now.
I hope my question isn't too noob-ish, but i've looked through the other threads and haven't found a clear answer.
My phone:
Verizon SCH-I535
Android 4.1.2
Baseband and Build: VRBMF1
I'm looking to use the casual 1-click to root. I have no immediate intention to install a custom ROM, but i may down the road. Mostly i need the hot-spot access and I titanium backup access..
The questions are: if I run the 1-click root now, and decide i need to factory reset the phone later...
1) will factory reset be an issue b/c the phone is rooted
2) if not, will the factory reset cause me to lose root
And also
3) Would I run into a problem if I used titanium to restore apps from from my Thunderbolt? it would only be things i really needed to transfer like Google Authenticator and Verisign VIP... and then if that worked, maybe some games like super stickman golf 2. Nothing pre-installed or stuff that can easily be re-configured...
Thanks,
Jay-
When you go to factory reset the phone, make sure you do it in recovery and not from the phone's menu settings.
jalusz said:
Hi,
First, thanks to everyone that contributes to these forums... I've been reading them for a while and didn't need to sign up until now.
I hope my question isn't too noob-ish, but i've looked through the other threads and haven't found a clear answer.
My phone:
Verizon SCH-I535
Android 4.1.2
Baseband and Build: VRBMF1
I'm looking to use the casual 1-click to root. I have no immediate intention to install a custom ROM, but i may down the road. Mostly i need the hot-spot access and I titanium backup access..
The questions are: if I run the 1-click root now, and decide i need to factory reset the phone later...
1) will factory reset be an issue b/c the phone is rooted
2) if not, will the factory reset cause me to lose root
And also
3) Would I run into a problem if I used titanium to restore apps from from my Thunderbolt? it would only be things i really needed to transfer like Google Authenticator and Verisign VIP... and then if that worked, maybe some games like super stickman golf 2. Nothing pre-installed or stuff that can easily be re-configured...
Thanks,
Jay-
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1) no
2) no
3)no
Just make sure you use recovery like the post above says to factory reset (hold power/home/volume up at the same time)
Afternoon, y'all. Let me cut to the chase:
My objective: To install the custom ROM located at this link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591895). I don't want to lose my root functionality/benefits by taking the OTA 4.3 update (Titanium, Greenify, etc), but I want to be able to use apps like DashClock which don't work with 4.1.2.
My phone specs:
Model SCH-i535
Android Version 4.1.2
Baseband Version i535VRBMF1
Kernel Version 3.0.31-1152558 ([email protected] #1)
Build Number JZO54K.i535VRBMF1
Hardware version 1535.10
Phone IS ROOTED, and I used the Casual root tool located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
[*]Apps I am using during this process (specific to root, backup, etc): Titanium Backup Pro (full backup made, including update.zip), ROM Manager, Root Checker, SuperSU
[*]Although I had a ton of frozen bloatware/system apps (all safe, I checked thoroughly before I did this a few months ago), I have unfrozen everything.
Previous experience: Before this S3, I had an HTC Thunderbolt which I successfully rooted and installed a custom ROM onto. So I have *some* experience, but I am no zen master.
Problems I've run into this time around:
Phone is rooted, but I am pretty sure the bootloader is NOT unlocked. Rootchecker confirms that the phone is rooted, and apps that require root access work just fine.
Related to the above point, when I run Casual (as I did just a few minutes ago), this is the log that appears in the window:
-Waiting for device...
Waiting for ADB device connection. When your OS recognizes the device, we will continue. Don't touch anything.
-Device found.
-Pushing exploit...
4298 KB/s (1283460 bytes in 0.291s)
-Pushing root tools...
2990 KB/s (96260 bytes in 0.031s)
4692 KB/s (1867568 bytes in 0.388s)
5424 KB/s (1872015 bytes in 0.336s)
-Rooting phone...
-This may take a few minutes.
Failure.
-installing superuser to system partition
-once root is confirmed you can flash the Insecure aboot
done
-Script Complete
This "FAILURE" is what catches my eye. I can't tell if the phone is "half-rooted" (no unlocked bootloader), or if it's just that Casual sees that my phone is already rooted so it doesn't bother trying to do it again (which is fine, I can understand that point, if it is true).
ClockworkRecovery Mod fails when trying to backup my current ROM (unlocked TouchWiz, no custom ROM installed yet). When I push "Backup Current ROM" in ROM Manager, it reboots the phone (crashes) and puts it into recovery mode, but there's nothing to recover. So my screen goes to the Yellow Triangle of Death screen and gives me a red error message in the top-left corner saying "secure kernel: fail". I had to reboot the phone using Volume Down+Home+Power, and it goes right back to a normal startup. This is what leads me to believe my bootloader is still locked, and I can't find a way to overcome that. I NEVER see the CWM menu to wipe cache, data, etc.
Titanium Backup failed to backup my SMS messages (everything else went fine). It gives me an XML error right away. I used a different app to back them up, which gave me no problems. Not sure if this is related to the larger problem, but I figured it was worth mentioning.
What I'm asking: I'm wanting to make sure that I've got all my bases covered. I know I've done my backups through Titanium Backup correctly, but I do remember that with my Thunderbolt I had to copy down some ID numbers related to the phone so I could sync it after installing a custom ROM (I haven't read any mention of this with the S3, so I'm a bit worried that I'm missing something).
CWM not working correctly is what's throwing me off- I don't want to get my phone stuck in bootloops like before. I want to backup my current setup, clean the cache/data/etc, install the ROM and then restore my apps and data.
I want to avoid resorting to ODIN and putting my phone back to stock (and risk getting the OTA 4.3 update, which I refuse to do) to be able to load this ROM, but if that's what I need to do, then so be it.
Any help, insights, etc would be immensely appreciated! I've read countless threads over the last few months (and especially in the last week), and the fact that there isn't much documentation regarding MF1 when it comes to installing bootchains and ODIN makes me feel like I'm groping in a dark a bit.
Many thanks!
Wow, long post.
Sounds like you're rooted, so download ez unlock v 1.2 to flash the insecure aboot. Then flash the rom after.
You should be good to go after that.
Edit : additionally, I wouldn't restore any apps or data from tibu in this case, going from 4.1.2 to 4.3 changes quite a bit of file structuring and could cause problems.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
Thanks for the reply! And yes, sorry for the long post- I opted to be thorough and give all the relevant information up front instead of playing a cat-and-mouse game of having to post repeatedly with information I could've posted at the beginning.
I heard about EZ Unlock but wasn't sure if it was still appropriate to use in this case. Per your instructions, I will sideload the APK and make magic happen from there.
I DID encounter something new just about an hour ago- I used Casual but I got no errors this time. Hopefully that is a sign of good things to come.
And thanks for the heads up about TiBu backups not working well- that right there saved me a LOT of headaches, I'm sure.
This being the case, however, how would I link my device to Verizon/Google if no data is restored at all from the backup, like account information and such? And would I still be able to restore my SMS/call log (they're in an XML file, not in app data)?
Again, many thanks!
DuoDSG said:
Thanks for the reply! And yes, sorry for the long post- I opted to be thorough and give all the relevant information up front instead of playing a cat-and-mouse game of having to post repeatedly with information I could've posted at the beginning.
I heard about EZ Unlock but wasn't sure if it was still appropriate to use in this case. Per your instructions, I will sideload the APK and make magic happen from there.
I DID encounter something new just about an hour ago- I used Casual but I got no errors this time. Hopefully that is a sign of good things to come.
And thanks for the heads up about TiBu backups not working well- that right there saved me a LOT of headaches, I'm sure.
This being the case, however, how would I link my device to Verizon/Google if no data is restored at all from the backup, like account information and such? And would I still be able to restore my SMS/call log (they're in an XML file, not in app data)?
Again, many thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't be sorry for the long post, much better to be detailed and explain as much as you can. Shows you did some research before asking. I wish everyone researched that much before posting.
Ez unlock is great to use in this case, it will brick your phone if you're on 4.3.
You can always restore your contacts from googles database, as far as restoring call logs and sms messages you should be OK. But if you encounter any lag or bugs it could have something to do with that.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
All right, so I followed your instructions. I sideloaded EZ Unlock, which did the trick, and then I went into CWM Recovery, wiped the data, cache and dalvik.
Then I went ahead and loaded the ROM zip from the SD card, and VOILA! Without a hitch. The phone is snappier than EVER and it's just a matter of downloading the apps I want to again from the play store. Even the data speeds--whether on WiFi or 4G--are blazing fast, I never encountered speeds like this, even when I first got my phone stock from Verizon.
I was pleasantly surprised that my phone didn't have an identity crisis (as had happened when I rooted and loaded a custom ROM on my HTC Thunderbolt years ago). Right away it knew my phone number, and my Google account sync was flawless.
So far, extremely impressed. And I can breathe a sigh of relief that I OVERprepared for this instead of missing something crucial (so far! fingers crossed). Before, under 4.1.2, I used a combination of Greenify, freezing unwanted bloatware/system apps and Xposed Framework to get my phone to do incredible things, and I look forward to seeing how everything works under 4.3 without Verizon's slimy tentacles all over my phone again.
I will continue to update the thread as I run into issues or curious info that might be useful to anyone considering going through the same process. Surely my experience and effort can allow someone else to have an easier time than I did!
Thank you again for your help- it may have seemed simple, but the direction and reassurance you gave was all the help I needed to make it happen and not blow up my phone
TOday i've received the notification of a new security update on my moto g turbo. My phone is root and I've a couple of frozen system apps. Can I just say yes to the update? or do I have to unfrozen and unroot? is it possible that this update fixes the flaw that allow us to root? thanks.
If you have rooted your phone, you shouldn't apply any OTA update because you can brick your phone, as far as I know.
No... It is not safe to install. OTA updates, even simple security updates, cannot be installed on a device that is rooted or modified in ANY way, it will softbrick and if you don't know how to handle that then it can be very frustrating.
Either ignore the update or restore back to pure stock, take the OTA update, root, and setup like a new phone. You could potentially use TiBu or UltiBu to backup and restore, but I usually find that causes more problems than it solves.
acejavelin said:
No... It is not safe to install. OTA updates, even simple security updates, cannot be installed on a device that is rooted or modified in ANY way, it will softbrick and if you don't know how to handle that then it can be very frustrating.
Either ignore the update or restore back to pure stock, take the OTA update, root, and setup like a new phone. You could potentially use TiBu or UltiBu to backup and restore, but I usually find that causes more problems than it solves.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
isn't there a twrp option to flash updates?
fscussel said:
isn't there a twrp option to flash updates?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No... OTA updates cannot be applied without factory recovery and /boot and /system unchanged.
acejavelin said:
No... OTA updates cannot be applied without factory recovery and /boot and /system unchanged.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is there an option in twrp or CWM to save all user settings/programs/files, apply the update, and then restore those?
fscussel said:
Is there an option in twrp or CWM to save all user settings/programs/files, apply the update, and then restore those?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No... But you can do a full nandroid backup in TWRP then extract the data you want with Titanium Backup. Again, I do not recommend this method, setup clean is much preferable.
You may want to look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/manual-ota-update-process-step-step-t3206049
acejavelin said:
No... But you can do a full nandroid backup in TWRP then extract the data you want with Titanium Backup. Again, I do not recommend this method, setup clean is much preferable.
You may want to look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/manual-ota-update-process-step-step-t3206049
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Certainly starting again from 0 is unbelievable bad. It's a pain in the ass do it all over again. I will keep my phone without the update or I will find a way to unroot, apply the update and then root again.
What's the best way to do a complete backup with user files and everything, I mean evertyhing, of the phone before I try this procedure? in twrp or cwm?
fscussel said:
Certainly starting again from 0 is unbelievable bad. It's a pain in the ass do it all over again. I will keep my phone without the update or I will find a way to unroot, apply the update and then root again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well... Even if you unroot and fastboot flash stock recovery, it won't undo any changes to the system, most people who attempt this fail and leave their device either unbootable or not updateable. BTW, if you had a custom ROM none of this would be an issue because updates to custom ROMs are designed to work with TWRP and customization. Unfortunately, with how Google has implemented security changes and checks, updates on Lollipop and newer Android cannot be applied to modified devices.
Here is my opinion on this, and it is not always liked:
If you have an Android device, especially if it is a modified one, you should ALWAYS be ready and willing to reset it at any time... Use Google Photo or some other cloud based app to maintain backups of pictures and videos, perform regular cloud backups of SMS/MMS messages (SMS Backup & Restore is great for this), perform regular backups in TWRP and with TiBu or UltiBu, and always enable and use Google's backup service and maintain file copies on a microSD card, PC, or other cloud storage... personally I usually do this weekly but that is because I make lots of changes to my device. There are also many tools that can automate this process, such as Tasker.
Additionally, I see little to no advantage to rooting a stock device, a stock rooted device has immediately been limited in regards to updates, with older devices this isn't an issue because updates are done, but on newer ones it is a serious pain. Stock and rooted is a waste of time... if you want to root you might as well go ahead and flash a custom ROM, otherwise leave it pure stock without root. This may seem an odd statement from a guy who has written several rooting tutorials, but it is my view on this.
Again, this is my opinion... if you modify, be ready to lose everything at any time, if you are then this isn't an issue, and if the worst happens, like you drop your phone in the river or smash the screen, or you just get a new device, you always have some source for the information to restore back to a device.
---------- Post added at 09:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 AM ----------
fscussel said:
What's the best way to do a complete backup with user files and everything, I mean evertyhing, of the phone before I try this procedure? in twrp or cwm?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
TWRP has a backup tool, use it... you can restore to that exact point at any time, it's called a nandroid backup and is a dump of each partition of the phone, restoring it will essentially bring the phone back to that exact moment in time. Remember that the default save point for this is on internal storage, which can/will get wiped, so save to the SD card and/or copy it off the device.
acejavelin said:
Well... Even if you unroot and fastboot flash stock recovery, it won't undo any changes to the system, most people who attempt this fail and leave their device either unbootable or not updateable. BTW, if you had a custom ROM none of this would be an issue because updates to custom ROMs are designed to work with TWRP and customization. Unfortunately, with how Google has implemented security changes and checks, updates on Lollipop and newer Android cannot be applied to modified devices.
Here is my opinion on this, and it is not always liked:
If you have an Android device, especially if it is a modified one, you should ALWAYS be ready and willing to reset it at any time... Use Google Photo or some other cloud based app to maintain backups of pictures and videos, perform regular cloud backups of SMS/MMS messages (SMS Backup & Restore is great for this), perform regular backups in TWRP and with TiBu or UltiBu, and always enable and use Google's backup service and maintain file copies on a microSD card, PC, or other cloud storage... personally I usually do this weekly but that is because I make lots of changes to my device. There are also many tools that can automate this process, such as Tasker.
Additionally, I see little to no advantage to rooting a stock device, a stock rooted device has immediately been limited in regards to updates, with older devices this isn't an issue because updates are done, but on newer ones it is a serious pain. Stock and rooted is a waste of time... if you want to root you might as well go ahead and flash a custom ROM, otherwise leave it pure stock without root. This may seem an odd statement from a guy who has written several rooting tutorials, but it is my view on this.
Again, this is my opinion... if you modify, be ready to lose everything at any time, if you are then this isn't an issue, and if the worst happens, like you drop your phone in the river or smash the screen, or you just get a new device, you always have some source for the information to restore back to a device.
---------- Post added at 09:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 AM ----------
TWRP has a backup tool, use it... you can restore to that exact point at any time, it's called a nandroid backup and is a dump of each partition of the phone, restoring it will essentially bring the phone back to that exact moment in time. Remember that the default save point for this is on internal storage, which can/will get wiped, so save to the SD card and/or copy it off the device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let's say I go do it... What's the best steps to do it?
1) nandroid backup
2) restore original bootloader??
3) unroot? how?
4) install the update
5) replace the bootloader
6) root again
??
fscussel said:
Let's say I go do it... What's the best steps to do it?
1) nandroid backup
2) restore original bootloader??
3) unroot? how?
4) install the update
5) replace the bootloader
6) root again
??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The bootloader is not relevant, /boot is your boot image (kernel) and it is what is modified when you root, /system is not touched by systemless rooting itself but almost everything you do with root access (like Xposed or debloating) modifies it.
Unrooting is done inside the SuperSU app itself, note that this does not undo any changes made to /system with root access, it just removes the su binary, SuperSU app, and undoes the changes to /boot by restoring the stock image.
The best way to do an update on a stock, rooted device that I am aware of is by following the tutorial I linked a few posts earlier.
Hi all.
Hope someone can help me. When I got my Samsung S8+, I quickly installed TWRP and then rooted it with magisk the same day I received it.
After that I removed a LOT of bloatware and installed hundreds of apps and everything was fine for 6 months.
One day it gave me a weird lock error, because I think I accidentally removed the OEM Unlock and the phone went crazy.
I had no phone for a few days but eventually I managed to flash stock rom and phone went back to normal.
I lost root, but I managed to keep all my data.
Now I want to see if I can get root again. However, all the tutorials to get TWRP require that I wipe my phone.
My questions are:
Can I root my phone without wiping all my data? Is there a chance that my bootloader is unlocked already or did flashing stock rom remove that?
If I have to wipe my data, how can I keep all my apps (and the app data). I have Titan Backup but that needs root to work so I don't see how to save the app data?
Thanks
Here is the query result using your basic question. . .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=446156896
nkomp18 said:
Hi all.
Hope someone can help me. When I got my Samsung S8+, I quickly installed TWRP and then rooted it with magisk the same day I received it.
After that I removed a LOT of bloatware and installed hundreds of apps and everything was fine for 6 months.
One day it gave me a weird lock error, because I think I accidentally removed the OEM Unlock and the phone went crazy.
I had no phone for a few days but eventually I managed to flash stock rom and phone went back to normal.
I lost root, but I managed to keep all my data.
Now I want to see if I can get root again. However, all the tutorials to get TWRP require that I wipe my phone.
My questions are:
Can I root my phone without wiping all my data? Is there a chance that my bootloader is unlocked already or did flashing stock rom remove that?
If I have to wipe my data, how can I keep all my apps (and the app data). I have Titan Backup but that needs root to work so I don't see how to save the app data?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Inorder to root, you need twrp and in order to get twrp working you need to wipe everything first.
I don't know if there is the possibility to backup app data without root, however i found this articel.
Just because I'm curious, which apps are important for you to have a local backup? I went through all my apps and didn't found a single app which isn't either naturally stored in the cloud (like whatsapp, FB, Snapchat,..) or has the function to export/backup things like tasker. :fingers-crossed:
Hi Jaannis.
I have a lot of apps that do not store their data in the cloud but locally in the phone. Without being too specific, some of these are notes, some are social apps (connections with hundreds of different people around the world with conversations, pictures and videos) and some are personal collected data.
I managed to migrate all the data the last 5 years using Titan and I think it's silly after managing to save them suddenly to lose them. On the other hand it kind of looks like there is no other way. Without Titan backup working, I will need to lose everything.