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I know an app that blocks ads but it needs root so I was wondering is there a way to hock them without root.
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Nope.avi
Anyway, the blocking of ads is illegal, I believe...or at least frowned upon. It's the same as pirating an app.
I'm afraid not my friend
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Nope.avi
Anyway, the blocking of ads is illegal, I believe...or at least frowned upon. It's the same as pirating an app.
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How is it illegal? The wouldnt be adblock extention for google Chrome or adfree on the market. It's far from pirating, you choose NOT to use instead of USE.
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How is it illegal? The wouldnt be adblock extention for google Chrome or adfree on the market. It's far from pirating, you choose NOT to use instead of USE.
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But blocking of ads in adblocker isn't the same...you don't need any form of root for it.
Android adblocking is different, because you need root to do it and it deprives developers of money...ads are only ever in free apps, and most of the time those apps have a paid form. If you don't like the ads in an app, go buy the app. Don't be a cheapskate by just blocking the ads.
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But blocking of ads in adblocker isn't the same...you don't need any form of root for it.
Android adblocking is different, because you need root to do it and it deprives developers of money...ads are only ever in free apps, and most of the time those apps have a paid form. If you don't like the ads in an app, go buy the app. Don't be a cheapskate by just blocking the ads.
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In the US rooting a phone is not illegal.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/26/rooting-android-phone-longer-crime/
Blocking ads is no different than muting my TV when ads come on, or using an ad blocker in a web browser. A developer also developed the ad blocker.
You may not like it, or the people who use them, but it's not illegal.
samnada said:
In the US rooting a phone is not illegal.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/26/rooting-android-phone-longer-crime/
Blocking ads is no different than muting my TV when ads come on, or using an ad blocker in a web browser. A developer also developed the ad blocker.
You may not like it, or the people who use them, but it's not illegal.
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Might not be illegal, but it's not right.
It's a completely different matter from muting the TV when ads come on. With adblocking in apps, you are pretty much stealing from the developer. As I said, if you want to get a version of the app without ads, pay for the app and support the developer. Don't be a complete cheapskate and just block the ads.
And how do you suggest people outside the US can get rid off the ads in Angry Birds as an example?
Get Market Enabler (can't do that if we're not rooted, sadly ) or use the Amazon Appstore outside of the US by following this guide: http://android.modaco.com/content/s...tore-from-outside-the-us-including-paid-apps/
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Might not be illegal, but it's not right.
It's a completely different matter from muting the TV when ads come on. With adblocking in apps, you are pretty much stealing from the developer. As I said, if you want to get a version of the app without ads, pay for the app and support the developer. Don't be a complete cheapskate and just block the ads.
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So by watching tv without looking at the ads I'm stealing from the networks right?
Good luck with that.
If your only means to compensation is through methods most consumers feel negatively about then you are in trouble to begin with. People will always support products and services they find value in. Annoying ads(not all ads) in applications are an impediment to my finding value in them. Every content creator says the same thing about their content and ad revenue - tv, radio, developers, bloggers, newspapers ad infinitum. It's just one method of generating revenue. There are others which somehow manage to make money.
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Get Market Enabler (can't do that if we're not rooted, sadly ) or use the Amazon Appstore outside of the US by following this guide: http://android.modaco.com/content/s...tore-from-outside-the-us-including-paid-apps/
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But the devs need that ad money! You're suggesting people steal from those poor devs!
Maybe the app is not priced at its true value and they need to make up the difference in ad rev.
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Get Market Enabler (can't do that if we're not rooted, sadly ) or use the Amazon Appstore outside of the US by following this guide: http://android.modaco.com/content/s...tore-from-outside-the-us-including-paid-apps/
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Can you buy Angry Birds from Market in the US? I can download it, but not buy it to get rid of the ads.
And do you really mean I have to go to hell and back again just to support a stupid company that doesn't allow me to buy the game because I don't live in the US?
I have Amazon Appstore and know it's a pain in the ass to get working. Made it work just to get rid off commercial actually, but I mean people shouldn't have to go trough such a hassle to be legal. I buy the apps I can, but for the rest I used to use adfree.
redbullcat said:
Might not be illegal, but it's not right.
It's a completely different matter from muting the TV when ads come on. With adblocking in apps, you are pretty much stealing from the developer. As I said, if you want to get a version of the app without ads, pay for the app and support the developer. Don't be a complete cheapskate and just block the ads.
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Not always possible, if the developer doesn't make something available ad free in your country, eg Angry Birds.
I know there are ways around it, Market Enabler for example, but it shouldn't have to be that way!
Whilst blocking the ads isn't nice on apps from some developers, sometimes they should offer an AdFree version or not include so many ads. If I developed a free Android app, the ads just ruin it in my opinion.
Lads, what are you arguing about? IIRC no one gets money from ads if its not clicked on. And who clicks on ads? So adfree is there just to take away visual presence, it's not stopping you from clicking an app, which no one does anyway.
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redbullcat said:
Might not be illegal, but it's not right.
It's a completely different matter from muting the TV when ads come on. With adblocking in apps, you are pretty much stealing from the developer. As I said, if you want to get a version of the app without ads, pay for the app and support the developer. Don't be a complete cheapskate and just block the ads.
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I think your logic is flawed.
First, I'm pretty sure developers only get paid if I actually click on an ad. So by your logic not clicking is stealing. If I never click then blocking the ads or not has no financial impact on the developer, thus isn't stealing.
Second, you can say muting a TV ad isn't the same, but I think it is. So is fast forwarding through ads with my DVR, and tossing junk mail without reading it, and signing up for a do-not-call list blocking telemarketers.
Third, clicking or not clicking or blocking ads costs me nothing, so I'm not a cheapskate no matter what I do. If a developer creates a limited app and I want the extra features I pay for it. So I do financially support developers who create apps I want.
I've contributed to the thread hijack enough. It's ok if we agree to disagree.
Note: My phone isn't rooted so I don't block ads, but I do on my PC, and I do all the other ad avoidance things I mentioned.
pointless - mods close this thread
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redbullcat said:
Might not be illegal, but it's not right.
It's a completely different matter from muting the TV when ads come on. With adblocking in apps, you are pretty much stealing from the developer. As I said, if you want to get a version of the app without ads, pay for the app and support the developer. Don't be a complete cheapskate and just block the ads.
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To be honest the Dec should make a paid version with more features than just remove ads. I block ads because I don't want animated gifs of mobile contracts plastered on my phone. If an app is good I buy it. I don't pirate them but equally I wont pay just to remove ads. Also there are those apps that have ads and no way to pay to remove them.
Good devs get paid for their work. Simple as that. Just like good films get bought and good computer games sell loads too.
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There is nothing noble about ads. Ya Devs should be paid, but forcing ads on someone is a horrible way to make that money.
All ya have to do is go into Airplane mode.... And ads go bye bye
Well it seems I'm getting flamed here. But I still think you shouldn't rip devs off for their work by just blocking the ads.
I agree to disagree with you guys and I think a mod should close the thread
Well Damn! I wasn't trying to start a war. Don't get me wrong I pay for the apps I use its just those few that you can't enjoy because half it screen is covered in bs.
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Hi Guys
What's the best current way to monetise apps (apps not games) with ads?
My apps are the sort of apps that are good to have so should get a lot of downloads but not the sort of apps you use every day.
That's why I'm a bit stuck on what app network would be best.
Any advise?
Inked_ said:
Hi Guys
What's the best current way to monetise apps (apps not games) with ads?
My apps are the sort of apps that are good to have so should get a lot of downloads but not the sort of apps you use every day.
That's why I'm a bit stuck on what app network would be best.
Any advise?
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If it something used for long periods of time, say a game, ads are worthwhile, otherwise in app purchases for extra features.
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If it something used for long periods of time, say a game, ads are worthwhile, otherwise in app purchases for extra features.
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Thanks for the reply
Is there anything out there that pays per install (without charging for the app...lol)?
In-App purchases
Is there a way of finding out what ad network apps I have installed are using?
The reason I asked is because I installed an app yesterday that has an ad screen as soon as the app starts with a message saying "slide to continue".
Usually I would think this sort of ad would put people off or be too intrusive, but it really isn't.
What's good about it is that you would at least get an ad per install.
I just need to somehow find out what ad network the developer is using....lol
Anyone
I would advise you to use ad mediation platforms. There are a lot of different monetization platforms, for example Heyzap, Appodeal, Startapp, Chartboost, Applovin. You can get access to several ad networks there using one SDK, this way the app gets maximal revenue from ads. I would recommend you Appodeal, because they have good fillrate and support all major ad networks and have flexible payouts.
Inked_ said:
Hi Guys
What's the best current way to monetise apps (apps not games) with ads?
My apps are the sort of apps that are good to have so should get a lot of downloads but not the sort of apps you use every day.
That's why I'm a bit stuck on what app network would be best.
Any advise?
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I would highly recommend to use adtoapp.com - app monetization service. You can easily increase revenue from your app in 2 times. Highest eCPM and 100% Fill Rate. One SDK collects global networks in one, so it helps to optimize the revenue.
Contact me anastasia.ukrmann in skype to discuss things
I'm surprised no one has reviewed this app but I'll give it a shot. *edit- attached pics keep going away each time I edit this post. Take a look at the attachments for screenshots.
My Android Tools (free version)
My Android Tools(Pro)
This is an app I stumbled across by chance or mentions in random forum posts and maybe those who've played with it do only a few things such as disable startup items but it's a lot more powerful than that in regards to blocking in-app ads and trackers.
Now, blocking stuff is a multi-prong approach.
You have Adaway for removing the DNS requests for both apps and browser traffic. MAP targets in-app stuff- not browser traffic. That's why you'd do something like Adaway + MinMinGuard/Adblocker XPosed modules. They actually target blocking the code in the app.
something like XPrivacy for sending random info instead of what an app wants from you
And a bunch of apps and XPosed modules to do things like block receivers or in-app ads.
I've whittled it down to Adaway + *Youtube Adaway + *CrappaLinks + My Android Tools(Pro)
*XPosed Modules
from now on I'm calling My Android Tools MAP
First, make a backup of your ROM
Next, make a backup in the About screen in MAP. The optional thing is if you want MAP to open after every app install/upgrade for review of new and updated apps.
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The 3 things we'll look at are Services, Broadcast Receivers and Activities.
Services- things that run whenever
Broadcast Receivers - things that respond to system events (boot, connectivity changes, timezone changes, packages added, etc)
Activities - ads and junk that pop up on your screen. Developers add 3rd party sdk's to show pop-ups and stuff. This is how XPosed Modules such as MinMinGuard and Adblocker work
ContentProvider - still haven't figured out if I find stuff here yet. Maybe in Google Play Services it might have some analytics provider but it's basically things that share things with other apps.
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Under Services I mainly look at Analytics and Campaign Tracking svcs. It's up to you but these do offer legit tracking analytics to developers.
Google to see what they do
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Broadcast Receivers a few apps that do look at a limited selection of these like XPosed module ReceiverStop
mainly I look at 2 of them:
android.intent.action.BOOT_COMPLETED
com.android.vending.INSTALL_REFERRER
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Finally, Activities
This is how MinMinguard and the like block things. We're going to block more because MinMinGuard just has a hardcoded list (see above link to its source code. That's what frustrated me about MinMinGuard. If I'm going to block this stuff I'd rather not have a hardcoded list as ad blocking should be equal opportunity if a user is going that route.)
under here it's really about getting familiar with names of ad networks. Here's a hint
I just downloaded a random app to find one with a bunch of fun things.
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Great guide, thank you.
royeiror said:
Great guide, thank you.
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yw, thanks for the nudge to put it together
Also, note disabling some activities core to an app can cause loss of functionality, force closes, icon removed from the app drawer, etc. That's why I toggle showing the long description of things (that <> button) so I know which are main pieces.
Unity is a library for game development so most of it is actually the app if you see that one a lot.
Sometimes I use the search to look for ad, analytic, track, campaign
Official worst app I've seen for ad activities : agar.io
It's one of the Google recommended apps of 2015 and I was able to find and block 35 ad network activities.
I can't imagine what it's like to actually play the app and what info about you gets collected
@jawz101 : There is an older thread where is shared this app along with an guide which stuff to disable: [SHARE] [APP] MyAndroidTools + Guide to disable some Play Services processes Add it to OP...
@Force I'm wary of disabling too many Google Play Services. I mainly look at the analytics and ads stuff but even then I wonder what repercussions any of it has on battery life. Say, if an app calls for a specific function and it's no longer able to retrieve the information would it cause a force close or get hung in some loop and chew up CPU? I dunno.
Anyone having FCs with the latest version?? It doesn't seem to open at all.. I have a note 4 N910C, on 5.1.1 COJ5, rooted, xposed.
i have been using this for many roms and it saves loads of ram and helps your phone/tablet boot up quicker,i read somewhere that it dont work with xposed or mm both are wrong because i use it on AICP MM ROM and have Xposed installed for XinternalSD and have had no problems at all.
I do submit any crashes if they happen and have emailed the dev in the past when crashes happened. I used to get app crashes until several months ago when trying to backup the current config or when clicking the Content Providers menu option but no longer. Sometimes I completely wiped my device to get it to stop crashing. Since it's been updated these past few months those problems don't occur.
You may want to try reinstalling the app, clearing its data, rebooting, etc to see if something fixed your app crash. Make sure your device I is rooted and the My Android Tools app does indeed have root privileges. Given the nature of the app it may take some error submissions and logcats sent to the dev.
Good to see that somebody reviewed and created a thread for this great app.
Just one question here (if someone could help out) - unlike other apps, Skype seems to be way too stubborn. By mistake I once turned off the connectivity change broadcast receiver. Now, no matter what I do I cannot toggle this receiver back on. WHY? I tried pretty much everything. Rebooting, enabling the receiver from within SD Maid pro, tried making a backup of MAT and then editing this backup manually to remove the tweak for skype but it all failed. With other apps I can toggle their receiver, activities and everything however I see fit and the toggles remain put. With Skype, however, it's a fail. Any help?
Let x
Great tutorial.
As you seem to be very clever with MyAndroidTools, do you have any idea how to spot the services to disable with MyAndroidTools, in order to kill UC news inside the 11.4.5.1005 UC browser last release :
For more or less one week, UC browser has become unusable for Android nowadays with forcing every user with b******* news, foxnews search engine, star magazine search engine, googlenews search engine, yahoo search engine, uc browser search engine, 9app, music player and many more.
Do you think MyAndroidTools could be able to strangle this overwhelming flow of stupidity ?
If yes, there are so much possible items among Services (run whenever), ...
What could be a method to spot the tap and turn it off?
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is there any FOSS alternative?
Can't locate in the Play store?
Has the app been removed from the play store? If so is there any chance you could make the file available here? This has been a favorite app of mine for quite sometime. Would hate to see it fade into oblivion.
Guys this was a one-stop app for me...can somebody make the apk here??
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Guys this was a one-stop app for me...can somebody make the apk here??
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I don't know if I would be violating any XDA rules or not. For sure this app is no longer available on the Play store and the developer unfortunately didn't respond to my email. If I can be assured that I'm not violating any XDA rules, I'll gladly share. PS, I love this app I use it for so many things
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I don't know if I would be violating any XDA rules or not. For sure this app is no longer available on the Play store and the developer unfortunately didn't respond to my email. If I can be assured that I'm not violating any XDA rules, I'll gladly share. PS, I love this app I use it for so many things
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Buddy it's available in apk mirror portal.
App was removed from Play Store how to get the Pro now?
I bought it but if it's in my library its a pita to search a misplaced tap and you back to the top of the list
How I can get this app? It's no longer in the AppStore. I bought the Pro Version.
Bobbaloo said:
I don't know if I would be violating any XDA rules or not. For sure this app is no longer available on the Play store and the developer unfortunately didn't respond to my email. If I can be assured that I'm not violating any XDA rules, I'll gladly share. PS, I love this app I use it for so many things
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I bought it on google play and suddenly it disappeared. I contacted the creator and he wrote me he violated some rules (?) of google play and they cutted off his account, but he send me the full apk. But I don't know if I can share it here and if he wants to share the full version. Anyway it's still possible to find it on some websites (apkmirror and something else).
I'm satisfied with it, expecially after I lost money buying autorun manager pro (the developer is not releasing new version, he said he's not interested in it anymore).
Anyway, if someone has any alternative to suggest to My Android Tools Pro it would be good.
Hi there,
I hope this is the right place to post such question, otherwise, please feel free to move to the right place.
I am quite into mobiles, since day 1 (1999 for me). This is also why I bought an HTC G1 ...
Anyway, when installing "Network Connections", I was quite surprised, how many connections, how many apps had, to several servers, even of services I dont use. My weather app calling Facebook, even though I dont have facebook on my mobile et all. "Brave" Browser, no tabs open, however, six connections...
Then the news with the Apps using trackers (PayPal, Outlook etc.). I really like my privacy, but I dont see, that this is respected. I do know, that nothing comes for free in life, and I do know, that it is a trade-off, data against services. And for Google it is okay (Google Maps e.g. couldnt live without it), but I think a few too many, want to have a peace of the cake, in particular, after I have paid for the apps (because, I also know, they need to make a living).
Anway, long story short, what is there I can do to protect myself, learn how it works etc. Pleasese refrain from tellin gme to sell my mobiel, turn off the internet etc
I used xprivacy on my Nexus4 - still a good idea?
I am using Android and iOS.
Thanks a lot in advance
Try MyAndroidTools to disable Google spyware embedded in apps. Components like these:
GcmInstanceIDListenerService GcmMessageListenerService
AppMeasurementService FirebaseInstanceIdService FirebaseMessagingService
AppMeasurementInstallReferrerReceiver AppMeasurementReceiver FirebaseInstanceIdInternalReceiver FirebaseInstanceIdReceiver
FirebaseInitProvider
These are all Google-related tracking/ analytics. Along with any Crashlytics components you see.
Stop using ALL Google apps. Including Chrome. Including bundled spyware. Including Play store. Including Calendar. Including SMS. Remove all of them from your rooted device and install non-Google equivalents. Try Osmand and others for maps and other apps from f-droid to get the functionality you want. Yes, it takes time.
Find app to change hostnames and Mac addresses and clean persistent cookies if you want. Find websites such as https://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ to download some apps you can't get from f-droid.org. Some apps rely on Google Play being installed. In my experience, none of them are worth it. If your app requires them and you can't live without it, probably forget any decent privacy.
If using a Mozilla-based browser, add these to your block list in Adaway:
accounts.firefox.com
blocklist.addons.mozilla.org
blocklist.settings.services.mozilla.com
detectportal.firefox.co
dynamicua.cdn.mozilla.net
fhr.cdn.mozilla.net
firefox.settings.services.mozilla.com
incoming.telemetry.mozilla.org
input.mozilla.org
install.mozilla.org
location.services.mozilla.com
mozorg.cdn.mozilla.net
mz.la
search.services.mozilla.com
shavar.services.mozilla.com
snippets.cdn.mozilla.net
tracking-protection.cdn.mozilla.net
updates.push.services.mozilla.com
versioncheck-bg.addons.mozilla.org
webextensions.settings.services.mozilla.com
...to help stop browser spyware.
Download apps from f-droid. Use a good firewall. Use AdAway. Customise your blocklist in AdAway. Disable all auto update components unless you trust the CIA and NSA to 'take care' of your device.
Etc.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-28/how-cia-made-google
You may wish to consider blocking these Google domains if you are adamant you want no business with Google:
adservice.google.com
adservice.google.com.au
ajax.googleapis.com
apis.google.com
books.google.com
books.google.com.au
clients1.google.com
clients2.google.com
clients3.google.com
chart.googleapis.com
crashlytics.com
cse.google.com
console.firebase.google.com
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
firebase.google.com
fonts.googleapis.com
fonts.gstatic.com
ggpht.com
googleanalytics.com
id.google.com.au
imasdk.googleapis.com
lh3.ggpht.com
lh4.ggpht.com
lh5.ggpht.com
lh6.ggpht.com
mail.google.com
maps.googleapis.com
ota.googlezip.net
payments.google.com
safebrowsing-cache.google.com
safebrowsing.google.comsb-ssl.google.com
ssl.gstatic.com
support.google.com
www.googleapis.com
www.googlecommerce.com
You can add more if you are really enthusiastic.
Many are safe to add to your AdAway block list, but some of these will annoy you on some websites or apps that use Google infrastructure, so be warned. You can always temporarily disable AdAway ad-blocking or identify the domain you want to remove from the blocklist by using the Log DNS Requests feature.
Thank you
Thank you @comfortable - I really appreciate you took the time, to give me such a long and detailed reply.
Persepctively a complete avoidance of Google is the long-term goal. At this stage, I am more interested in avoiding smaller fish (like my alarm clock, which unfortunately offers a unique feature: slowly increasing alaram sound, gibes you a relaxed wake-up).
I am using Adhell already, and already diabled background call via AMB shell, however this made apps stop working compeltely (Runtastic e.g.).
Thanks for pointing out the relevant components! Thats quite helpful... I already condiered installing pihole and surfing via OpenVPN so this would filter out quite a bit of such stuff?
So yes- thanks again, I have a new project and will work off the measures you listed!!! Thank you. :good:
Hi there people,
In the past people just needed a rooted device and an app like adaway, well things evolved and we're here having annoying ads from any app or website, any proper method to eliminate this?
I know yandex and ad guard works great for just websites, but I'm not very happy with yandex browser overall
P.S. Adaway and adding tons of extra hosts doesn't work, in the past adaway was the best solution(when android was around 2.3 version)
EDIT: Some of the hosts(I did add plenty) I've added in adaway seems to stop a few ads but not all, if someone knows a better way feel free to discuss it here
Try adguard.
evronetwork said:
Hi there people,
In the past people just needed a rooted device and an app like adaway, well things evolved and we're here having annoying ads from any app or website, any proper method to eliminate this?
I know yandex and ad guard works great for just websites, but I'm not very happy with yandex browser overall
P.S. Adaway and adding tons of extra hosts doesn't work, in the past adaway was the best solution(when android was around 2.3 version)
EDIT: Some of the hosts(I did add plenty) I've added in adaway seems to stop a few ads but not all, if someone knows a better way feel free to discuss it here
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Try Via, the browser is freaking great and totally free. And since it's not base on chromium a lot of ads/pop-ups will not work. I use it with ad away and so far so good.
Mheca said:
Try Via, the browser is freaking great and totally free. And since it's not base on chromium a lot of ads/pop-ups will not work. I use it with ad away and so far so good.
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Well for browser I prefer opera especially for FB messages as others would ask to install messenger, now about an overal blocker I'd be more interested. In the past(Android v2.3) an adaway app would do the trick on a rooted phone, now? it's not enough, which worries me. I don't want d$m^ ads using my data and I don't want to be annoyed
Who thought it was a good idea to put ads in apps, websites etc ...lets drink his blood
adguard is good for ads blocking (and cheap, 9$ for lifetime licence )
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adguard is good for ads blocking (and cheap, 9$ for lifetime licence )
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adaway does better job but still, some do slip away. Whoever thought it would be a great idea to put ads in phones was a big *******, it's your phone unless they pay you, you don't need these cr**
I use brave browser... No root needed. I was using Samsung internet with the adblock plugin. Also a good choice.