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Is it possible to use Internet while keep annonymous ??
Well as soon as you go on the internet you are going to leave a fingerprint behind. You can minimize this a bit but you can't visit websites and not visit them at the same time. You can only make it less obvious that you visited them.
Some things that can make it harder for you to be tracked:
- Use a costum rom (AOSP probably best) without Google Apps.
- Use a VPN (Virtual Private Network) while browsing the web. This way websites only know that a certain "server" visited them, but they do not know who is behind this server. This way it becomes a lot harder to trace the visit back to you.
- Use Firefox Browser, it helps especially compared to Chrome.
- Send DoNotTrack requests (With tools such as Ghostery). Most web browsers now have an option build-in.
- Use an Adblocker on untrusted websites (Pref not on XDA ). Adaway is one of the apps you can use on Android to achieve this.
If you this kind of things on your Android device you will become a lot more anonymous. Ofcourse this is all pretty basic, if you start throwing out your passwords and name in the stuff you post online, ofcourse you no longer be anonymous . The largest danger is in giving your information to random websites/people on the internet. Tools such as e-mail maskers are always useful. Also try to refrain from installing apps without checking their permissions and stuff. If you install "Cute Free Wallpaper App" you might be infesting your device with malware, no matter how much protection you use it still all boils down to common sense.
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Well as soon as you go on the internet you are going to leave a fingerprint behind. You can minimize this a bit but you can't visit websites and not visit them at the same time. You can only make it less obvious that you visited them.
Some things that can make it harder for you to be tracked:
- Use a costum rom (AOSP probably best) without Google Apps.
- Use a VPN (Virtual Private Network) while browsing the web. This way websites only know that a certain "server" visited them, but they do not know who is behind this server. This way it becomes a lot harder to trace the visit back to you.
- Use Firefox Browser, it helps especially compared to Chrome.
- Send DoNotTrack requests (With tools such as Ghostery).
- Use an Adblocker on untrusted websites (Pref not on XDA )
If you this kind of things on your Android device you will become a lot more anonymous. Ofcourse this is all pretty basic, if you start throwing out your passwords and name in the stuff you post online, ofcourse you no longer be anonymous . The largest danger is in giving your information to random websites/people on the internet. Tools such as e-mail maskers are always useful. Also try to refrain from installing apps without checking their permissions and stuff. If you install "Cute Free Wallpaper App" you might be infesting your device with malware, no matter how much protection you use it still all boils down to common sense.
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Thanks a lot bro.. for your gud suggestions
You can install Orbot and Orweb to browse through the Tor network. This is much slower than using a VPN, but you don't have to trust a VPN provider to keep you anonymous.
Thanks you too !:good:
Tor isn't for beginners or total secure but people seems not able to understand it.
It your traffic isn't encrypted this means you sent plain text, passwords etc it goes unencrypted to the nodes and if these notes are compromised it's 'easy' to identify what you sent via deep package inspection. Silkroad was busted by this, an compromised www site with an sql hack and ... Tor is useless, so easy is that. Again it's not designed and never will be for beginners if we talking about 'total security'.
Heavyly hetting detected in the Web!
I was EDV-Technikan, and would really know more about be Nearly-Anonymouse. have a few tips without VPN, WARP,Tor Browser... If your Phone is rooted you can do more so how whats best Magisk,Root, Apps or other things i can USE ??
Thanks for Helping
How far are you ready to go in order to achieve anonymity?
It's kind of possible, but it's a bit cumbersome.
First, you need different browsers for different activities so that you have different fingerprints.
For example, one browser only for personal stuff where you real name appears like emails, tickets, banks etc., one browser only for emails and accounts where your real name doesn't appear, and one browser only for web surfing on websites where you aren't registered and don't need to be.
On all browsers try to avoid as much as you can to have Java script enabled, for banks and tickets you mostly can't but you can for emails (at least some of them so depending on which email you use you may want to change for one that doesn't require Java script to be enabled) and you can for many websites as long as you don't watch videos.
Atlas is a good browser, it isn't open source but it's clean and it enables you to switch between Java script and non Java script easily.
Naked browser is a good clean choice too.
Avoid like plague Chrome, and even Mozilla that isn't anymore what it used to be (unless you build your own version and you remove the nasty stuff).
Then you need different identities depending on which browser you use.
That is, everytime you switch browser you turn the WiFi off, you fire a script that changes your Mac address, your android ID and all the other IDs your phone may have, including phone model, phone manufacturer etc., and then you turn the WiFi back on and switch IP on your VPN if you use one (I personally don't, I don't see the point since I'm not a bad guy and since anyway a government agency could most likely oblige your VPN provider to give you away).
Now as said above you'll need a clean AOSPish ROM, without any Google apps (which is where most people's desire on privacy hiccups, because they can't live without the Google apps' suite).
You'll have to be rooted.
You'll need a firewall like AF+.
You'll need a network log app to check which app connects where, specially for newly installed apps that require internet access.
You'll have to be careful with the apps you install and go as much as possible with open source apps.
If you are into social networking, don't install their apps (unless you know how to patch closed source apps, see below), it's far safer, and battery friendly, to access their sites from a browser.
You'll have to learn how to compile your ROM, your kernel and your apps from source, and clean whatever needs to be cleaned before compilation because even pure AOSP has some unpleasant code like analytics and connections to Google everytime you turn the internet on (even if you don't have any Google apps installed, and even if you haven't opened any browser or internet allowed app yet) and because even open source apps use sometimes stuff you don't want.
If needed, you'll have to learn how to patch closed source apps to remove the analytics, the gms and the Facebook spywares if present, and whatever else you may find (Firebase, crashlytics etc.), and to remove the unwanted permissions, services, receivers and providers.
You'll have to learn how to use and read logs because patched apps often crash.
Last but not least, you'll need some common sense and change the way you interact with the internet...
If you do all of the above, you'll have a good level of anonymity.
So it's definitely possible, but one has to work a bit...
Are you willy to work?
I habe just tryed permissions ruler,3 WebBrowser,Network Connector to See what Apps and scrips works in Background of Android. Most is Google Framework nearly Evers secound Sending or looking up for anything...! AS i like some Google Services i will SetUp now next Rom without Google Services .... Would you have some Ideas,Apps,Roms,Markets like 1Market,Blackmart, Network Connector,Anty Spyware ?
Thanks a lot
Fdroid is good for open source apps. a good firewall. find a privacy oriented browser , i.e. yandex , startpage , duckduck go , tor. FairEmail for your email client. very privacy oriented.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3824168
I'm surprised no one has reviewed this app but I'll give it a shot. *edit- attached pics keep going away each time I edit this post. Take a look at the attachments for screenshots.
My Android Tools (free version)
My Android Tools(Pro)
This is an app I stumbled across by chance or mentions in random forum posts and maybe those who've played with it do only a few things such as disable startup items but it's a lot more powerful than that in regards to blocking in-app ads and trackers.
Now, blocking stuff is a multi-prong approach.
You have Adaway for removing the DNS requests for both apps and browser traffic. MAP targets in-app stuff- not browser traffic. That's why you'd do something like Adaway + MinMinGuard/Adblocker XPosed modules. They actually target blocking the code in the app.
something like XPrivacy for sending random info instead of what an app wants from you
And a bunch of apps and XPosed modules to do things like block receivers or in-app ads.
I've whittled it down to Adaway + *Youtube Adaway + *CrappaLinks + My Android Tools(Pro)
*XPosed Modules
from now on I'm calling My Android Tools MAP
First, make a backup of your ROM
Next, make a backup in the About screen in MAP. The optional thing is if you want MAP to open after every app install/upgrade for review of new and updated apps.
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The 3 things we'll look at are Services, Broadcast Receivers and Activities.
Services- things that run whenever
Broadcast Receivers - things that respond to system events (boot, connectivity changes, timezone changes, packages added, etc)
Activities - ads and junk that pop up on your screen. Developers add 3rd party sdk's to show pop-ups and stuff. This is how XPosed Modules such as MinMinGuard and Adblocker work
ContentProvider - still haven't figured out if I find stuff here yet. Maybe in Google Play Services it might have some analytics provider but it's basically things that share things with other apps.
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Under Services I mainly look at Analytics and Campaign Tracking svcs. It's up to you but these do offer legit tracking analytics to developers.
Google to see what they do
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Broadcast Receivers a few apps that do look at a limited selection of these like XPosed module ReceiverStop
mainly I look at 2 of them:
android.intent.action.BOOT_COMPLETED
com.android.vending.INSTALL_REFERRER
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Finally, Activities
This is how MinMinguard and the like block things. We're going to block more because MinMinGuard just has a hardcoded list (see above link to its source code. That's what frustrated me about MinMinGuard. If I'm going to block this stuff I'd rather not have a hardcoded list as ad blocking should be equal opportunity if a user is going that route.)
under here it's really about getting familiar with names of ad networks. Here's a hint
I just downloaded a random app to find one with a bunch of fun things.
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Great guide, thank you.
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Great guide, thank you.
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yw, thanks for the nudge to put it together
Also, note disabling some activities core to an app can cause loss of functionality, force closes, icon removed from the app drawer, etc. That's why I toggle showing the long description of things (that <> button) so I know which are main pieces.
Unity is a library for game development so most of it is actually the app if you see that one a lot.
Sometimes I use the search to look for ad, analytic, track, campaign
Official worst app I've seen for ad activities : agar.io
It's one of the Google recommended apps of 2015 and I was able to find and block 35 ad network activities.
I can't imagine what it's like to actually play the app and what info about you gets collected
@jawz101 : There is an older thread where is shared this app along with an guide which stuff to disable: [SHARE] [APP] MyAndroidTools + Guide to disable some Play Services processes Add it to OP...
@Force I'm wary of disabling too many Google Play Services. I mainly look at the analytics and ads stuff but even then I wonder what repercussions any of it has on battery life. Say, if an app calls for a specific function and it's no longer able to retrieve the information would it cause a force close or get hung in some loop and chew up CPU? I dunno.
Anyone having FCs with the latest version?? It doesn't seem to open at all.. I have a note 4 N910C, on 5.1.1 COJ5, rooted, xposed.
i have been using this for many roms and it saves loads of ram and helps your phone/tablet boot up quicker,i read somewhere that it dont work with xposed or mm both are wrong because i use it on AICP MM ROM and have Xposed installed for XinternalSD and have had no problems at all.
I do submit any crashes if they happen and have emailed the dev in the past when crashes happened. I used to get app crashes until several months ago when trying to backup the current config or when clicking the Content Providers menu option but no longer. Sometimes I completely wiped my device to get it to stop crashing. Since it's been updated these past few months those problems don't occur.
You may want to try reinstalling the app, clearing its data, rebooting, etc to see if something fixed your app crash. Make sure your device I is rooted and the My Android Tools app does indeed have root privileges. Given the nature of the app it may take some error submissions and logcats sent to the dev.
Good to see that somebody reviewed and created a thread for this great app.
Just one question here (if someone could help out) - unlike other apps, Skype seems to be way too stubborn. By mistake I once turned off the connectivity change broadcast receiver. Now, no matter what I do I cannot toggle this receiver back on. WHY? I tried pretty much everything. Rebooting, enabling the receiver from within SD Maid pro, tried making a backup of MAT and then editing this backup manually to remove the tweak for skype but it all failed. With other apps I can toggle their receiver, activities and everything however I see fit and the toggles remain put. With Skype, however, it's a fail. Any help?
Let x
Great tutorial.
As you seem to be very clever with MyAndroidTools, do you have any idea how to spot the services to disable with MyAndroidTools, in order to kill UC news inside the 11.4.5.1005 UC browser last release :
For more or less one week, UC browser has become unusable for Android nowadays with forcing every user with b******* news, foxnews search engine, star magazine search engine, googlenews search engine, yahoo search engine, uc browser search engine, 9app, music player and many more.
Do you think MyAndroidTools could be able to strangle this overwhelming flow of stupidity ?
If yes, there are so much possible items among Services (run whenever), ...
What could be a method to spot the tap and turn it off?
thx
is there any FOSS alternative?
Can't locate in the Play store?
Has the app been removed from the play store? If so is there any chance you could make the file available here? This has been a favorite app of mine for quite sometime. Would hate to see it fade into oblivion.
Guys this was a one-stop app for me...can somebody make the apk here??
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Guys this was a one-stop app for me...can somebody make the apk here??
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I don't know if I would be violating any XDA rules or not. For sure this app is no longer available on the Play store and the developer unfortunately didn't respond to my email. If I can be assured that I'm not violating any XDA rules, I'll gladly share. PS, I love this app I use it for so many things
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I don't know if I would be violating any XDA rules or not. For sure this app is no longer available on the Play store and the developer unfortunately didn't respond to my email. If I can be assured that I'm not violating any XDA rules, I'll gladly share. PS, I love this app I use it for so many things
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Buddy it's available in apk mirror portal.
App was removed from Play Store how to get the Pro now?
I bought it but if it's in my library its a pita to search a misplaced tap and you back to the top of the list
How I can get this app? It's no longer in the AppStore. I bought the Pro Version.
Bobbaloo said:
I don't know if I would be violating any XDA rules or not. For sure this app is no longer available on the Play store and the developer unfortunately didn't respond to my email. If I can be assured that I'm not violating any XDA rules, I'll gladly share. PS, I love this app I use it for so many things
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I bought it on google play and suddenly it disappeared. I contacted the creator and he wrote me he violated some rules (?) of google play and they cutted off his account, but he send me the full apk. But I don't know if I can share it here and if he wants to share the full version. Anyway it's still possible to find it on some websites (apkmirror and something else).
I'm satisfied with it, expecially after I lost money buying autorun manager pro (the developer is not releasing new version, he said he's not interested in it anymore).
Anyway, if someone has any alternative to suggest to My Android Tools Pro it would be good.
Hi all,
I had the suspicion for some time now that my Android phone is somehow collecting private information without my knowledge and using it to bombard me with ads but I wasn't sure how. I know that google is reading my emails, my calendars and has access to my data stored on Google Drive but today something totally weird happened. I was watching a video clip on YouTube when suddenly the clip paused and an ad show up about a salve I was discussing about the night before with my girlfriend. This cannot be a coincidence! The phone was during the conversation on Standby mode.
I've found some articles and even some videos on YouTube regarding this topic so I'm not paranoid.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Meanwhile I have deactivated microphone permission for all google apps but I doubt this is enough. What else can I do to stop it if it is really true?
I have stock ROM from Honor installed, would it be helpful to install a custom ROM?
droidis said:
Hi all,
I had the suspicion for some time now that my Android phone is somehow collecting private information without my knowledge and using it to bombard me with ads but I wasn't sure how. I know that google is reading my emails, my calendars and has access to my data stored on Google Drive but today something totally weird happened. I was watching a video clip on YouTube when suddenly the clip paused and an ad show up about a salve I was discussing about the night before with my girlfriend. This cannot be a coincidence! The phone was during the conversation on Standby mode.
I've found some articles and even some videos on YouTube regarding this topic so I'm not paranoid.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Meanwhile I have deactivated microphone permission for all google apps but I doubt this is enough. What else can I do to stop it if it is really true?
I have stock ROM from Honor installed, would it be helpful to install a custom ROM?
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Google, Amazon, etc do pay a lot of attention to what you do online, which can seem a little intrusive. But we're not quite at the stage yet of people being listened to for the purposes of advertising.
It would be very labour-intensive, kill your battery and wreck your data. Not to mention the massive backlash from the public if and when it was discovered.
It's not impossible that some malware could be made which does listen to you, but it's not going to be an official Google app.
But, if you're still worried, deactivating microphone permission will stop the apps from being able to hear anything. There's no way to sidestep this to my knowledge. If an app doesn't have permission to use the mic, it can't use it.
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Google, Amazon, etc do pay a lot of attention to what you do online, which can seem a little intrusive. But we're not quite at the stage yet of people being listened to for the purposes of advertising.
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I disagree. If you know someone who has a Google Home or Amazon Alexa product, ask them if they've had a similar experience. I know people who have those products, and they had a similar experience as OP.
Eavesdropping via Google Home/Amazon Alexa is a little different than eavesdropping on private phone conversations, because you must give Google Home/Amazon Alexa explicit permission to listen in order for it to work. However, I would not be surprised if Google monitors phone calls/texts in some manner to tailor advertisements.
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Google, Amazon, etc do pay a lot of attention to what you do online, which can seem a little intrusive. But we're not quite at the stage yet of people being listened to for the purposes of advertising.
http://qz.com/1145669/googles-true-...nd-nsa-research-grants-for-mass-surveillance/
http://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/17684660/google-turn-off-location-history-data
https://video.foxnews.com/v/5731183327001/
Ads are being fed to users based on their voice content, online searches, etc. It is easy for machines to convert voice to text nowadays. That text is analysed for any text or phrase. Been going on for years with our spied-on phone calls and emails. Just see some YouTube videos for realtime subtitles in various languages for proof that this is done routinely.
Cameras, wifi, cellular and GPS are activated without our knowledge or permission routinely by OS, games and apps. Info is sent to Google and third parties when online. If your device is filled with Google's own battery-sucking apps, forget any semblance of privacy, I reckon. If your front camera is not covered...you are probably a sitting duck. You can buy camera covers on ebay if you want to be selective about when it's OK, these have a slider, otherwise consider taping it over. Same with your laptop.
If you are using Google Services or using Google Apps then I think you are a sitting duck ready to take some bullets. Much like Apple and Microsoft users are. To be fair, that is probably 99.99% of device owners.
Third-party apps and games do it too. So there's that. Your data is siphoned-off and sent over the interwebs by them.
Is your device rooted? If not, I'd recommend using a device that has TWRP for it, so you can more cleanly root it without resorting to more questionable root software with its own spyware. I'd recommend making a TWRP back-up before heavily uninstalling apps.
I'd recommend downloading open-source apps on f-droid.org. With a root uninstaller you can uninstall many things they normally don't let you: like all the Google spyware apps and components. Also things that you don't see listed under your Apps. Disabling Google apps doesn't stop them running. Uninstalling them then removing leftover files is a far better approach. For that you'll want a root uninstaller and a root file manager. Some uninstallers are better than others.
Trusting Google's own Permissions thing was always a bit like entrusting your kid to the local paedophile, to me. Google have CIA origins (and backing) and NSA funds keeping them primed. Do you know what just these 2 do worldwide? Unspeakable horrors. Consult William Blum or Susan Lindauer for starters.
I'd consider an open-source keyboard from f-droid.org. Like AnySoftKeyboard. I'd.consider replacing all default stock apps, including the Launcher.
The following has been safely removed by me after rooting my devices (various Mediatek-based Lenovo tablets):
Android Live Wallpapers, Android Work Assistant, Basic Daydreams, Black Hole, BSPTelephonyDevTool, Bubbles, Calculator, Calendar, Calendar Storage, Certificate Installer, Chrome, Clock, com.android.backupconfirm, com.android.browser.provider, com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks, com.android.sharedstoragebackup, com.android.wallpaper.holospiral, com.huaquin.factoryservice, com.mediatek, com.mediatek.voiceexztension,ConfigUpdater, Contacts, Contacts Storage, Device Service, dongle,Drive, DRM Protected Content Storage, Email, Exchange Services, FactoryKit Test, FM Radio, FTPrecheck, Fused Location, FwkPlugin, FWUpgrade, Gallery, Gamestore, Gmail, Google Account Manager, Google Backup Transport, Google App, Google Calendar Sync, Google Keyboard, Google One Time Init, Google Partner Setup, Google Play Movies, Google Play Music, Google Play services, Google Play Store, Google Services Framework, Guvera Music, Hangouts, Launcher3, Lenovo ID, Maps, Market Feedback Agent, McAfee Security, MmsService
Mobile Data, Mobile Network Configuration, MTKFloatMenu, MTK Logger, MTK NLPService, Music Visualisation Wallpapers, MusicFX, PacProcessor, Permission Control, Phone, Photos, RawDataTEst, RunInRebootSystem, Schedule power on & off, Search Applications Provider, Setup Wizard, SHAREit, Skype, SmartcardService, Sound Recorder, SYNCit HD, System Update, Tap the Frog HD, Tedongle Settings, Twitter, UC Browser HD, UpgradeSys, Vcalendar, VoiceCommand, Volidation Tools, YGPS, YouTube
Some of thistuff might be needed for phones but I use a tablet. All the telephony stuff is uninstalled.
If i need an app from Google's Spyware Play Store I use sites like https://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ to download the APK directly without signing in to Google's Spyware Store infrastructure (since no Google apps are installed on my device). Otherwise f-droid.org caters to 95+% of my needs.
AdAway is one of the first things I install, along with a decent firewall like AfWall+
Xprivacy deserves some of your attention as do these apps from Tibor Kaputa https://simplemobiletools.github.io/
Situation:
I have somewhat of a "love-REALLY HATE" relationship with Google apps and ecosystem.
On one hand, they are great at what they do.
On the other, it's like having a spy satellite overhead, given how much telemetry it does.
Question:
I'd like to cut all of the Google apps' internet, location, sensor and background activity access for good when not in use. Or at least spoof whatever personal data is being sent (Device info, location, activities, etc). Any way to do that?
What I've done so far:
My current way-to-go method involves installing RethinkDNS+firewall, then blocking every single one of google apps including Gboard. It sort-of works, but very inconvenient, as I have to manually enable internet access for a particular app and/or service when needed. I also tried edXposed's XluaPrivacy module to cut off access to certain permissions. Again, cumbersome.
After going through F-Droid, I found an app called "Insular", that claims being able to put all of the "big brother" apps (such as Gapps) behind an isolated sandbox, a digital gulag of sorts.
Thanks for the pointer to Insular whose advertising on F-Droid says:
Insular is a FLOSS fork of Island.
With Insular, you can:
Isolate your Big Brother apps
Clone and run multiple accounts simutaniuosly
Freeze or archive apps and prevent any background behaviors
Unfreeze apps on-demand with home screen shortcuts
Re-freeze marked apps with one tap
Hide apps
Selectively enable (or disable) VPN for different group of apps
Prohibit USB access to mitigate attacks with physical access
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Based on that, I suspect this XDA thread about "Island" may be useful.
[APP][5.0+][BETA] Island - app freezing, privacy protection, parallel accounts
"Island" is a sandbox environment to clone selected apps and isolate them from accessing your personal data outside the sandbox (including call logs, contacts, photos and etc) even if related permissions are granted. Device-bound data is still accessible (SMS, IMEI and etc).
Isolated app can be frozen on demand, with launcher icon vanish and its background behaviors completely blocked.
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Totesnochill said:
Question:
I'd like to cut all of the Google apps' internet, location, sensor and background activity access for good when not in use. Or at least spoof whatever personal data is being sent (Device info, location, activities, etc). Any way to do that?
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Like you, my relationship with Google is strained where I don't set up any Google Account on Android and it works just fine.
I don't have a contacts.db sqlite database for that reason too, so my favorite communication apps are all designed to store their own contacts db internally to the app itself.
I replace Google apps with FOSS equivalents such as NewPipe (or, more recently, Vanced YouTube) for example.
And I spoof my GPS location by default (using Lexa Fake GPS, for example).
Of course, given I don't have a Google Account on my phone, I use the Aurora Store instead of the Google Play Store. Of course, I strive for apps that don't require Google Framework Services (GSF) which Aurora neatly filters out for us.
Since I'm not rooted, I can't delete Google Play Store, but I can disable it, which is almost as good.
And, I use privacy-aware apps for my messenger, calendar, contacts, and dialer apps (many of which come from Simple Mobile Tools' suite which are available on F-Droid).
To keep my WiFi SSID/BSSID/GPS/Strength/etc. out of the hands of Google (& Mozilla and Kismet and Wigle, etc.), I add "_nomap" to the SSID and I turn off the SOHO router SSID broadcast (which "hinders" most cellphones from uploading my BSSID information to Google public servers); but then I have to also turn off "AutoReconnect" on Android 12 and also I have the Developer Options set in Android 12 to randomize the MAC address on EACH connection; however that means I need to set any "static" connections on my LAN from the phone and not with address reservation on the router (which typically utilizes the MAC address).
And it's not just Google we need to keep our data out of their hands, as I even use WhatsApp privacy aware tools such as the WhatsApp dialer and WhatsApp Click to Chat mechanisms (to keep my contacts out of Facebook's hands too).
For offline maps, I use a quick web browser lookup on a privacy browser (such as Tor or Epic or Opera), since the Google address lookup is still the best in the world... (which is the love/hate relationship, right?)... and then I paste the GPS coordinates that the privacy browser found on the maps.google.com web site into a local routing application (such as a shortcut to a browser to google maps on the phone or better yet, to a dedicated offline map program such as OSM And~), and even traffic can be gotten without Google (e.g., Sigalert & 511 apps).
I used to reset the Advertising ID with a homescreen shortcut that could be activated from Windows via a batch file over Wi-Fi, but now with Android 12 we can wipe out the Advertising ID altogether (i.e., reset it to all zeroes). However, I still periodically change my GSF ID and other supposedly unique identifiers.
I'm still trying to figure out the implication of "trackers", so if anyone has more information about them, please advise.
Off hand there must be scores more things I do for privacy, where we probably should have a main thread on this site of all the myriad things people can do to increase their privacy on Android (some of which I've screenshotted for you below).
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Like you, my relationship with Google is strained where I don't set up any Google Account on Android and it works just fine.
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Thanks heaps for the very in-depth response. Really opens up on a lot of things I wasnt aware of, and I realized that unlike desktop, when it comes to mobile privacy I'm still a bit behind.
Are there any guides where I can do some reading on the concepts and techniques you've described? Especially regarding contacts.db sqlite database, GPS spoofing and privacy-aware options for accessing WhatsApp.
Also, what are your thoughts on MIcroG?
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Thanks heaps for the very in-depth response.
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I try to put effort into the response so that others can benefit (but nobody ever presses the like button so maybe it's not worth the effort).
For example, when I mentioned I spoof my GPS, I looked up the app I used and linked to it so that you wouldn't have to test a score of apps like I did to find the best one.
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Really opens up on a lot of things I wasn't aware of, and I realized that unlike desktop, when it comes to mobile privacy I'm still a bit behind.
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That was just off the top of my head where there has to be at least a hundred different privacy things I do on Android to distance me from Google that most people don't bother to do.
I admit, sometimes it feels like we're putting a dozen locks on the front door, but in the end, we LEARN a lot about Android in the process.
A lot of the protection is to protect ourselves from others who don't know how to configure their phone, so they are uploading our private information (like our contacts and home locations) to Google databases.
For example, the typical Android phone when it drives by your front door uploads to google your exact location, your signal strength, your unique BSSID and your SSID... where you'll note in my response above I had to do a half dozen things on my phone and router to prevent that from happening (i.e., just adding "_nomap" doesn't work but most people don't realize that because they don't think about it).
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Are there any guides where I can do some reading on the concepts and techniques you've described?
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I'm sure there are plenty.
But I have been in MANY situations where there are none.
Take, for example, changing the GSFID... almost nowhere on the net is that described how to do it. Almost nobody does it, but it can be done if you know how.
I really should write a set of privacy tutorials so that everyone can do it but I have to find the time, and this web site doesn't like text tutorials I found out recently. So they make it a PITA in the end to help people. Sigh.
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Especially regarding contacts.db sqlite database, GPS spoofing and privacy-aware options for accessing WhatsApp.
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If you look at the links I gave you in my response for contacts, gps spoofing and privacy-aware WhatsApp, you'll get a good start.
A quickie is to not have a contacts.sqlite database, which means you need your own contacts.csv or more likely contacts.vcf file, which you can maintain on the PC if you like (works with Excel for example).
Now that you don't have a contacts.db sqlite database, you need to find the contacts and dialer and mms/sms apps that can suck in their own contacts.vcf file, which I pointed you to in the Simple Mobile Tools suite.
For GPS spoofing, I didn't mention you need to turn "Mock Location" on in the Android Developer Options, but that's what most people already do so I assumed you knew that. Once you turn that on, you can just select the mock location app of your choice (where I suggested one above which isn't perfect but none of them are).
That particular app moves your location every few feet and it gets the altitude and it can easily be stopped and started, etc., but I'd like it if it didn't move just "west by 10 feet every minute" but instead if it would follow a pre-determined route that I could give it. So they need a lot more work to be as good as we'd like them to be.
For What'sApp privacy, look at the two apps I linked to in the prior post as they don't need the contacts.sqlite database to work.
Your WhatsApp should only have an icon in your folders for the people you contact and nothing else, IMHO. That's the best privacy you can get, although WhatsApp does decent hashing on the contacts file when it uploads it to their servers - but still - why give them your entire contacts when you only contact 10 people (or whatever) on WhatsApp. Right?
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Also, what are your thoughts on MIcroG?
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Funny you mentioned microG since I installed it for the first time yesterday when I was setting up Vanced Youtube based on this thread.
I generally choose apps that don't use GSF but sometimes you have to use a GSF app (e.g., Zoom meetings), and then it's nice to use MicroG instead of Google Services Framework.
I only installed it yesterday so I really don't know how well it will work for me as I didn't even need to install it to install VancedYoutube. You just need it to log into YouTube but I never do that anyway.
In summary, there's probably a hundred things we do to our phones to set up privacy but I'd have to write each one up in detail to help everyone and that's a lot of work.
Especially if almost nobody reads these threads.
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I try to put effort into the response so that others can benefit (but nobody ever presses the like button so maybe it's not worth the effort).
In summary, there's probably a hundred things we do to our phones to set up privacy but I'd have to write each one up in detail to help everyone and that's a lot of work.
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Thank you for doing God's work out there. Ethics like these are what creates the content that keeps the internet from becoming a dumpster fire otherwise. Tutorials and explanations that come from the fellow users are THE best and usually directly on-point.
When I was just starting setting up Linux environment, I wrote "how-to notes" on every successful step. At first it was more like the "sticky notes" to help me remember, but eventually (as the list grew) I started writing these tips in a way as if they were to be read by someone with little background in the subject. What used to be the "Linux notes" file became 10563 lines monstrosity now... So every time I need to answer someone's question I just copypaste from this file.
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That was just off the top of my head where there has to be at least a hundred different privacy things I do on Android to distance me from Google that most people don't bother to do.
I admit, sometimes it feels like we're putting a dozen locks on the front door, but in the end, we LEARN a lot about Android in the process.
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Absolutely. I've spent about 2 weeks tweaking my new phone (Nokia X6), trying out different roms/recoveries and app setups. Pissed off a bunch of people in the process - most wouldn't understand that I'm setting up a system to last another 7 years, just like my previous phone (Galaxy Gprime). Not to mention that with the amount of sensitive info on the phone, security and privacy are a legit concern, and worth learning about just how one learns to install and use the lock on the front doors.
Phones became disposable both in software and hardware, and so have the general attitude towards the devices.
My final setup became AOSP PixelPlusUI Rom (comes with about openGapps nano worth of Google stuff) with most other stock apps (contacts , dialer, keyboards, msg etc) removed via ADB and replaced with F-Droid alternatives.
I've also used Rethink DNS with whitelist set up/AppInspector to put Google in the Goolag - no internet access for anything google-related at all times. So far my phone has 253 apps blocked (including almost all of the system apps). Surprisingly, all of the necessary apps off google play store (Whatsapp, FB messenger) still function well. Whenever I need a particular Gservice (like a translator), I just enable access for that (and only that) until I dont need it anymore.
GalaxyA325G said:
If you look at the links I gave you in my response for contacts, gps spoofing and privacy-aware WhatsApp, you'll get a good start.
A quickie is to not have a contacts.sqlite database, which means you need your own contacts.csv or more likely contacts.vcf file, which you can maintain on the PC if you like (works with Excel for example).
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Thanks! I'm not sure why the links didnt show up at first. I'll give this a look. I've been using "simple mobile tools" for quite a while, and I must say I like how they are completely autonomous and transparent about what prems they need and why.
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For GPS spoofing, I didn't mention you need to turn "Mock Location" on in the Android Developer Options, but that's what most people already do so I assumed you knew that.
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I definitely saw the option in the dev settings, but didnt experiment with it. Well, now I know, thanks!
Funny you mentioned microG since I installed it for the first time yesterday when I was setting up Vanced Youtube based on this thread.
I generally choose apps that don't use GSF but sometimes you have to use a GSF app (e.g., Zoom meetings), and then it's nice to use MicroG instead of Google Services Framework.
I only installed it yesterday so I really don't know how well it will work for me as I didn't even need to install it to install VancedYoutube. You just need it to log into YouTube but I never do that anyway.
In summary, there's probably a hundred things we do to our phones to set up privacy but I'd have to write each one up in detail to help everyone and that's a lot of work.
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I will give microG a try (in a form of LineageOS for MicroG). In fact I did install this rom before but I was a bit confused about what it did and assumed that it is a regular LinOS repack with Gplay store and apps built-in. Time to test again.
Especially if almost nobody reads these threads.
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Threads like these is how I passed my uni exams. Not even exaggerating XD. Thanks again for a very detailed insightful read!
Hello my friends, very happy to meet good hearted people who think alike about Gugle.
as my name suggests I'm noob still and didn't understand much of discussion but very happy to meet you friends. My love & warm regards to all here. Here is what I did uptill now before I saw this thread :
1> Load GSI/ROM.
2> Load TWRP
3> Load Magisk
4> Load microG
5> Install Service Disabler
5.1> Disable bunch of internal services like telemetry, analytics, location (FusedLocation not possible to disable) for every app (3-rd party & system app), contacts sync etc.
6> Install SD-Maid Pro
6.1> Freeze apps like Gugle Calendar Sync Adapter & Gugle Contacts Sync Adapter
7> Install CIAFirewall Fake VPN & configure it.
8> I use Opera browser for Banking, Youtube, Cab booking, Surfing, Gmail, Food Order etc.
9> Install Aurora Store for general app management & installation
10> For contacts I save all contacts in notepad app, and let all calls purposely bounce then I call back aftter checking whose call it was & state false apologies.
#FYI :- Gugle, Mycrowsowft , eFbee are not really to be blamed, rhey are having to comply with FBI, Phentagon, Central Intelligence Agencies, Interpol, etc. or they have to shut bizness.
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Like you, my relationship with Google is strained where I don't set up any Google Account on Android and it works just fine.
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Hi, I’m glad to have found this thread as I’m not happy with how my normal Android phone is spied upon by google. But I’m not technically knowledgeable and I don’t want to risk bricking my phone by trying amateur attempts at rooting, or installing Insular, etc…
So far I have not signed in, I allow only minimum permissions, use Netguard, Aurora and FDroid, and have disabled bloatware. I also force-stop apps as much as possible when not in use, and enable Location and Bluetooth only when needed.
I know this is just an amateur, token attempt to reduce spying - so I may have to eventually buy a degoogled phone.
I’ve also done some of the privacy suggestions in the attachments you posted.
Could you help me with a couple of newbie questions…
1): I might have minimised some personal data harvested by most of the apps I use, but I guess my privacy precautions will have no significant effect on the amount of telemetry collected by google?
2): If my precautions really have no significant effect, I’m wondering if would it make any real difference if I was signed in as I don’t use any of the google backup services anyway?
Thanks.
Hi there, it's been a long time since i used my last Pixel (it was 2XL),
what i notice right away after using my P7Pro for few days is that Google Feed on this phone is showing a lot of ads/sponsored content,
i used host based adblock along with adguard private DNS on this phone, same setup like my other phone (Aquos R6)
but to my surprise, while it managed to block the ads/sponsored contents on my Aquos, it failed to do so on my Pixel.
Do google actually do same thing with apple on macOS ? setting up certain IP/URL/Connection in OS level, bypassing our DNS/VPN/Host ?
Because i dont remember ever seeing thia much of an ads in my Google Feed. And, as comparison, i dont see the same ads from my Aquos which signed into same google account.
Do you have any idea how to reduce it ? or block it ?
And, no, choosing "Show less" or "Block this ads" by pressing ... button on the Feed doesn't work.
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Hi there, it's been a long time since i used my last Pixel (it was 2XL),
what i notice right away after using my P7Pro for few days is that Google Feed on this phone is showing a lot of ads/sponsored content,
i used host based adblock along with adguard private DNS on this phone, same setup like my other phone (Aquos R6)
but to my surprise, while it managed to block the ads/sponsored contents on my Aquos, it failed to do so on my Pixel.
Do google actually do same thing with apple on macOS ? setting up certain IP/URL/Connection in OS level, bypassing our DNS/VPN/Host ?
Because i dont remember ever seeing thia much of an ads in my Google Feed. And, as comparison, i dont see the same ads from my Aquos which signed into same google account.
Do you have any idea how to reduce it ? or block it ?
And, no, choosing "Show less" or "Block this ads" by pressing ... button on the Feed doesn't work.
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I don't use Google Feeds it's an open door for some pubs
I prefer to use Flym which manages my RSS feeds and I don't have ads.
I also use AdAway and the Magisk Systemless Hosts-Unified module.
Adguard app, no adds unless you missed some filters/updates. Works great on Facebook too.
As others mentioned, you need a way to block/filter traffic on your entire device. There are apps that use a VPN to filter traffic without root, though there is always the root method of editing your hosts file which has been around for a good while which will always also work.
There is also one other option which is to use a DNS server which some companies provide as a paid service, the benefit there is you can choose to put the filter in your modem to have it filter down to all of the devices on your network, though personally I would never go for this option as iot is far too easy to block something you didn't want to, and a hassle to unblock it.
I installed a Play Store App, DNS66, and this seems to block ADs system wide including YouTube Music Ads - now it plays like a regular music player without the garbage ads every other song.
Thank you for all replies,
as mentioned i already using two adblock methods, root based and DNS based, and for other apps, the ads all gone, system widely,
only Google Discover still showing it,
but it SOLVED now, after turning off Ads Personalisation in My Ads setting in Google app, somehow all the ads now gone. Probably there's cache somewhere in my system which prevent the adblock to work 100% on Discover.
otonieru said:
Thank you for all replies,
as mentioned i already using two adblock methods, root based and DNS based, and for other apps, the ads all gone, system widely,
only Google Discover still showing it,
but it SOLVED now, after turning off Ads Personalisation in My Ads setting in Google app, somehow all the ads now gone. Probably there's cache somewhere in my system which prevent the adblock to work 100% on Discover.
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This worked perfectly for me on both my Pixel phones. Thank you so much!