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I'm (hopefully) going to be getting the M8 today/tomorrow. I presently have an iPhone 5s. Question is, can I use my current nano sim with the M8 or do I need to use the one that it comes with? I know the new SIM has to be used if I want to use NFC or whatever, but Verizon tells me if I activate the new SIM my old one (in my 5s) will expire. I am sure I'll want to swap back and forth quite a bit, so having 900 sims on hand won't be convenient. One rep says I can use my 5s sim, another says no -- so big question is, can I, or can't I? I don't care if NFC won't work, and IDK what the M8 sim would do (if anything) if I tried it in my 5s.
Thanks.
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I'm (hopefully) going to be getting the M8 today/tomorrow. I presently have an iPhone 5s. Question is, can I use my current nano sim with the M8 or do I need to use the one that it comes with? I know the new SIM has to be used if I want to use NFC or whatever, but Verizon tells me if I activate the new SIM my old one (in my 5s) will expire. I am sure I'll want to swap back and forth quite a bit, so having 900 sims on hand won't be convenient. One rep says I can use my 5s sim, another says no -- so big question is, can I, or can't I? I don't care if NFC won't work, and IDK what the M8 sim would do (if anything) if I tried it in my 5s.
Thanks.
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The way verizon works, I think the sim is sort of tied to the account. You still need to have the ESN on your account as verizon is not purely sim based. Therefore, I do not think you can switch sims, and if you do you MIGHT get purely LTE service, but no cdma.
You shouldn't have any problems swapping Sims. I had no problem putting the micro SIM in my HTC one m7 into my droid bionic. I did have to use an adapter since Bionic uses standard SIM but I had no problem.
Frankie1588 said:
You shouldn't have any problems swapping Sims. I had no problem putting the micro SIM in my HTC one m7 into my droid bionic. I did have to use an adapter since Bionic uses standard SIM but I had no problem.
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Did you have to call in, or were you just able to swap the SIM and everything was working? I recall when I had my Razr, and swapped to the Razr Maxx all I had to do was swap the SIM, and I was good to go. Verizon has confirmed with me that the SIM will work, but I guess I won't have NFC, which again I don't care about either way. Just want to make it as simple as possible, and not have Verizon fiddle with my plan.
boxermansr said:
Did you have to call in, or were you just able to swap the SIM and everything was working? I recall when I had my Razr, and swapped to the Razr Maxx all I had to do was swap the SIM, and I was good to go. Verizon has confirmed with me that the SIM will work, but I guess I won't have NFC, which again I don't care about either way. Just want to make it as simple as possible, and not have Verizon fiddle with my plan.
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Nope I never had to call. I even noticed that it changed my phone on the My Verizon website which was neat.
You shouldn't have any issues and no you don't have to call. I have a micro sim cut to a nano and I switch it between my M7 and 5S every now and then. If I plan on switching between my 5S and M8 it'll be easier since they both use nano.
I'm using my nano Sim from my 5s in my new M8 now. Didn't call VZW, did nothing on line, just popped it out of the iPhone and into the One.
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Assuming you're switching between devices that have like provisioning(which the two phones will) you will for sure be fine, no need to call. The devices will check in with the platform when they first boot up and the device ID on the account will change on it's own after a short while without you needing to do anything.
Well it is good to be corrected then. I take my statement back, I had no idea verizon started making sense.
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Well it is good to be corrected then. I take my statement back, I had no idea verizon started making sense.
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They did as soon as they switched to 4g sim cards.
As long as devices you swap between are 4g I haven't had an issue. The problem is when you go from 4g to 3g back in the gnex to iPhone 4s days. Every time you did that you'd burn a sim card on Verizon.
Now iI can swap from my m8 to my iPhone 5 with a quick sim swap.
Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. Will be off to get my device in a few hours. One more question, since we already established the SIM from my iPhone 5s will work in the M8, will the reverse apply as well (the SIM from the M8 working in the 5s) - I'm guessing not, since (at least from what Verizon has told me) that sim is different? I know I'll be switching back and forth between devices, so I just want to make sure I know which sim/sims will work accordingly.
Thanks again.
boxermansr said:
Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. Will be off to get my device in a few hours. One more question, since we already established the SIM from my iPhone 5s will work in the M8, will the reverse apply as well (the SIM from the M8 working in the 5s) - I'm guessing not, since (at least from what Verizon has told me) that sim is different? I know I'll be switching back and forth between devices, so I just want to make sure I know which sim/sims will work accordingly.
Thanks again.
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You'll go get your m8 and it will come with a new sim. The old one in your iPhone will be burned after they activate the new one and Verizon won't let you use it again. Just swap the new one that comes in your m8. Don't listen to Verizon. I'm using my new sim in my m8, m7, and iPhone 5.
Burned??
What do you mean by Burned?
That it's unusable in the future?
I have reactivated a sim card before but maybe it was a different situation. I'm on a business account too. So we can change phones online without calling in. I don't know if non-business accounts can do that or not.
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You'll go get your m8 and it will come with a new sim. The old one in your iPhone will be burned after they activate the new one and Verizon won't let you use it again. Just swap the new one that comes in your m8. Don't listen to Verizon. I'm using my new sim in my m8, m7, and iPhone 5.
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Well I'm adding a new line, so they'll have to activate it on the new line. Then I plan to throw my sim from my 5s in the M8. Was just curious if the one from the M8 *would* work in the 5s, in case I decided to get a new SIM before I swap (since I know once I throw a dumb phone on the new line, the SIM from the M8 will be toast).
I'll just use my 5s one, since it seems the easiest. I hate going to Verizon so I just wanna be in and out
You won't lose NFC capability when swapping SIMs. NFC is part of the phone's hardware. What you will lose is ISIS capability, since that relies on the SIM.
You can use Google wallet just when swapping SIMs.
I modified my micro sim from the DNA and it works perfectly. The ISIS loss isn't a problem for me, as google wallet works.
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What do you mean by Burned?
That it's unusable in the future?
I have reactivated a sim card before but maybe it was a different situation. I'm on a business account too. So we can change phones online without calling in. I don't know if non-business accounts can do that or not.
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As in Verizon normally won't reactivate them. I've had wonderful arguments about this on my work side also. More often than not they've made me switch to a new SIM when reactivating something that had a SIM in it already. Say when someone loses their phone, and I have another verizon phone with a SIM already in it from a terminated Employee.
I've had it the other way to where they will. But when I was switching between a Gnex and an iPhone 4s. Every time I wanted to reactivate the Gnex I would have to go get a new SIM as they wouldn't reactivate the previous one. something about going between 3G to 4G systems.
meest said:
As in Verizon normally won't reactivate them. I've had wonderful arguments about this on my work side also. More often than not they've made me switch to a new SIM when reactivating something that had a SIM in it already. Say when someone loses their phone, and I have another verizon phone with a SIM already in it from a terminated Employee.
I've had it the other way to where they will. But when I was switching between a Gnex and an iPhone 4s. Every time I wanted to reactivate the Gnex I would have to go get a new SIM as they wouldn't reactivate the previous one. something about going between 3G to 4G systems.
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Yes. you are correct. I did experience that once when going from iphone 4 to my Rezound but once you go 4g you never go back. It's un-explainable.
I activated the nano SIM that came with the M8 and put it straight into an adapter and into my S4 (I haven't got the chance to copy files and settings over to the HTC yet so I'm still using the S4 as my phone for now) and my S4's running fine on it!
So in answer to the OP's question, just activate the new SIM and you can use that in both your iPhone and HTC (then the current SIM you have is useless). You shouldn't have any issues switching back and forth.
there's adapters on amazon to take your new nano sim and put it in phones that require a micro sim or other size. But i switch between my phones all the time and all it takes is putting in your current SIM card
So after much research deciding between a new Moto X and a Z3 I found a great deal on a D6633 and pulled the trigger and should have it later this week.
My questions is regarding the Nano SIM the phone uses, right now I have an HTC ONE M7 which uses a micro SIM. I have read many threads and people say if they request a new NANO SIM or if they go in the store and get a NANO SIM they have issues getting the phone working on LTE (I think its because ATT does ntot sell the Z3 so they have a hard time registering the IMEI correctly). Most people just say to use your current SIM and don't say anything to ATT. So if I wanted to go that route my only option would be to cut my current SIM, I had tried to do that before and the cutter I used destroyed my SIM card.
So people with experience getting the D6633 working on ATT what route did you go, if I were to try and cut my SIM I would get a much better cutter this time around but it still makes me a bit nervous with my past experience trying it. If you got a new NANO SIM how much of a hassle was it to get working on LTE and do you have any tips to make my transition more smooth.
Thanks!
I can not speak for ATT, but I came from the Nexus 5 which also used a micro sim. I used a scissor to cut it and it works flawlessly!
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AT&T should be able to give you a nano sim, as the iPhone 6/6+ use the same, they should have some in stock. I do not see why it would cause LTE issues.
AT&T should be able to use the IMEI in their system for the M7 and assign that to the Nano sim. I had an AT&T micro sim in my T-Mobile unlocked Note 3, went into the store with my Developer edition Moto X and asked for a new nano sim. They didn't ask me for either of my phones - just transferred whatever IMEI was in their system to the nano, handed it over and then waited while I booted up the Moto X to confirm everything was working and didn't even charge me for the new sim card. If they run into issues just tell them to use an IMEI off one of the demo phones in their showroom.
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I have read many threads and people say if they request a new NANO SIM or if they go in the store and get a NANO SIM they have issues getting the phone working on LTE (I think its because ATT does ntot sell the Z3 so they have a hard time registering the IMEI correctly).
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I think that is based on old information. Back in the day when I was trying to get a micro-SIM provisioned for LTE with my (unbranded) Sony Xperia ZL, the store rep had to use the IMEI from his own AT&T Branded Xperia TL for me.
Last week I went in to get a nano-SIM for my Z3, the store rep just entered its IMEI into their system, and I got LTE right away.
One thing to be aware of is that you also need to enable LTE in the phone itself:
Settings -> Wireless & Networks/More... -> Mobile networks -> Network Mode -> LTE (preferred)/WCDMA/GSM
And of course you need a D6503/D6603, with support for AT&T's LTE frequencies.
Ok ok before you all start saying that Project Fi is only on Nexus phones hear me out:
If I have an Galaxy S6 and pop a Project Fi sim card in it. What would happen? Will it not work at all or something else will happen? Will it work for all services(talk, text, data) or just some of them and in a limited way?
And assuming that I can use Project Fi on S6 then I have these questions:
Will it effect the cost of my bill at the end of the day? If I use a non-Nexus phone how much more will I be charged and for what exactly?
Oh and the last question: Will it work on all editions of galaxy s6 or t-mobile compatible models only.
I already have an invite but do not want to buy a new phone just for that and my current plan is not that bad.
I just tried this. I put the Project Fi SIM in on Tuesday and waited for my number to be ported. Today I checked the Fi app and it said there was a problem with my SIM card and to contact customer support. Of course, they just hit me with the rhetoric about it not being compatible and that, despite videos showing it working on the S6, the forums say that it stops working after a few days or they start getting a lot of error messages. This doesn't really make sense as it's basically just cellular service, but whatever. It seems they don't want it working on anything other than their flagships, and I'm not buying something I can't afford when I have a better phone in my hand right now. I'll be checking MetroPCS or the like instead to get away from T-Mobile.
I ordered my sim card and did the same thing. Just like you I run into the similar situation.
For activation you can only do it on a nexus phone. They can actually see what kind of phone you have when you activate. Also number porting takes a few seconds to a minute to complete. If it gives the error right away then the problem is with the phone model.
Wonder once activated if it would work?
Galaxy Note 5 On Project FI
I switched Sims between my Note 5 and N 5X on fi, and the Note 5 is fully functional.
Has anyone tried to use Project Fi on an S6, Note or non Nexus device outside of the US?
I have it working on my S6 Edge, but I'm curious if it will work in Europe.
Remember which networks this rides on
I think if you were to use a phone unlocked for Sprint/T-Mobile this would work. Remember that fi rides on Sprint and T-Mobile networks.
I have fi in the UK. However I am using it on a 6p uk version and it works fine
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its working fine in my s6 edge but mms doesn't work
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Hi people,
Been reading the forums for help for a long time - finally decided to join; hopefully will be able to help... I am not a pro - actually quite a newbie; hopefully will become a pro spending enough time here
I am trying to make my SMG920V (Samsung S6 Verizon unlocked) work with Project Fi. It is working but only very poorly.
T-mobile network shows up but disappears intermittently (I changed the APN settings from apn . gishan . net)
Even when it works, I am getting only H or H+, not LTE
Request your help please?!
I would ideally not like to root the phone (my wife uses it and she knows nothing about technology!) but if that is the only option to use all bands (IF that is the problem) then I will; the phone is on 7.0
Looking forward to your help!
Aman
This seems to be a very popular Question. I'm here to tell you I've tried all options and been unsuccessful. Please stop asking in the general forum. If you have a "trick" or "idea" you want to try just post in here and I'll try it for you if I haven't already. But, I've likely tried it.
My Nexus 5 is on the latest Jan 2016 version of Marshmallow 6.0.1 - I have 2 Verizon SIM cards which are fully activated and working in other devices; One is a Nano SIM and the other is a Micro SIM. I also have TMobile and Project Fi SIM cards and have traveled extensively so tried many other SIM cards. Here are the results:
Micro Verizon SIM does NOT work in the Nexus 5 regardless of APN settings.
Nano Verizon SIM with Adapter does NOT work in Nexus 5 regardless of settings.
Calls to Customer and Technical Support result in VZW's response: They will NOT "add the IMEI to the database"... Perhaps I just haven't talked to the right people but nobody has been able to do this. I haven't visited a store yet but I'm doubtful they will either.
TMobile SIM works perfectly with no configuration required.
Project Fi full access SIM with Adapter works fine with zero configuration. (This is the SIM I use daily in this phone)
Project Fi Data Only SIM with adapter works when you use the Manual APN settings on their support page.
Vodaphone AU SIM (Prepaid) works fine without any configuration
Vodaphone NL SIM (Prepaid) with adapter works fine with no configuration
TMobile UK SIM works fine with no configuration.
If you have a Nexus 5 then just go get Project Fi or other confirmed working service.
Let's put this to bed. It won't work on Verizon.
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This seems to be a very popular Question. I'm here to tell you I've tried all options and been unsuccessful. Please stop asking in the general forum. If you have a "trick" or "idea" you want to try just post in here and I'll try it for you if I haven't already. But, I've likely tried it.
My Nexus 5 is on the latest Jan 2016 version of Marshmallow 6.0.1 - I have 2 Verizon SIM cards which are fully activated and working in other devices; One is a Nano SIM and the other is a Micro SIM. I also have TMobile and Project Fi SIM cards and have traveled extensively so tried many other SIM cards. Here are the results:
Micro Verizon SIM does NOT work in the Nexus 5 regardless of APN settings.
Nano Verizon SIM with Adapter does NOT work in Nexus 5 regardless of settings.
Calls to Customer and Technical Support result in VZW's response: They will NOT "add the IMEI to the database"... Perhaps I just haven't talked to the right people but nobody has been able to do this. I haven't visited a store yet but I'm doubtful they will either.
TMobile SIM works perfectly with no configuration required.
Project Fi full access SIM with Adapter works fine with zero configuration. (This is the SIM I use daily in this phone)
Project Fi Data Only SIM with adapter works when you use the Manual APN settings on their support page.
Vodaphone AU SIM (Prepaid) works fine without any configuration
Vodaphone NL SIM (Prepaid) with adapter works fine with no configuration
TMobile UK SIM works fine with no configuration.
If you have a Nexus 5 then just go get Project Fi or other confirmed working service.
Let's put this to bed. It won't work on Verizon.
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Did you check their Bring Your Own Device page, where you can submit a form activating an unlocked phone?
vzwsite/bring-your-own-device/
I'd love to know if you try this out!
Is it the same as Pixel 3a? DSDS? or DSDA as per rumor in Feb https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4-dual-sim-rumor/ ?
I found this incomplete doc from T-Mobile eSIM settings: Google Pixel 4. It mentioned '10 profile'. Would this a doc copied from iPhone and it is not completed?
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-41557
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Is it the same as Pixel 3a? DSDS? or DSDA as per rumor in Feb https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4-dual-sim-rumor/ ?
I found this incomplete doc from T-Mobile eSIM settings: Google Pixel 4. It mentioned '10 profile'. Would this a doc copied from iPhone and it is not completed?
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-41557
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Same as the 3a. That's a very old article when they were talking about DSDS on the P3 which never came to be with one IMEI. As for DSDA here's the quote from the first article which should help clarify it for you. The P4 does not have two radios either.
Lastly, there’s Dual SIM, Dual Active (DSDA), in which both SIM slots can be actively used for calls, texts, or data simultaneously. Although the Pixel 3 doesn’t have the hardware to support DSDA (it lacks a second radio)....
Yes, the Pixel 4 supports DSDS.
How many IMEI provisioned on pixel 3a? Android police have a post showing 2 IMEI labeled on pixel 4 XL retail box.
The 3a has two, it was updated to DSDS in software a little while back.
FWIW, there is an article on Ars about how Google is going to not only support DSDS on the P4s, but actually enable them if you're on Fi (I am).
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/10/google-fi-will-soon-connect-you-to-two-lte-networks-at-once/
I pre-ordered my Flame through Fi, 'financing' it over 2 years, and it arrived today. As soon as I opened it, I popped the instructions, and this is what it says in there:
It works, I activated it with my T-Mobile physical SIM and Project Fi eSIM. I was very excited to finally have this for about 2 hours, then I found out it broke my visual voicemail. WHYYYY GOOGLE WHYYY must you always ruin everything with some bizarre quirk?
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It works, I activated it with my T-Mobile physical SIM and Project Fi eSIM. I was very excited to finally have this for about 2 hours, then I found out it broke my visual voicemail. WHYYYY GOOGLE WHYYY must you always ruin everything with some bizarre quirk?
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I'll bet it broke RCS too.
Sh...... you're probably right.
It has to do with carrier provisioning. With most dual SIM phones there's an option where you can choose which SIM is used for voice, data and texts. You need to make sure your line with visual voicemail is utilizing the same service for data also. There is same issue with MMS which will hinder any group text capabilities. I have been trying to figure it out for years. Inhave found best use scenario for me is to keep everything on primary line and switch to data on a need only basis with second SIM. Voice and texts will still work with second SIM whenever needed.
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It has to do with carrier provisioning. With most dual SIM phones there's an option where you can choose which SIM is used for voice, data and texts. You need to make sure your line with visual voicemail is utilizing the same service for data also. There is same issue with MMS which will hinder any group text capabilities. I have been trying to figure it out for years. Inhave found best use scenario for me is to keep everything on primary line and switch to data on a need only basis with second SIM. Voice and texts will still work with second SIM whenever needed.
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You've had dual SIM phones for years? Which ones, just curious. Were any of them esim?
eSIM is brand new, so never had dual with it. This might actually be the first device with both. I think my first dual SIM was Huawei Mate 8 in 2015.
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eSIM is brand new, so never had dual with it. This might actually be the first device with both. I think my first dual SIM was Huawei Mate 8 in 2015.
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Yeah dual physical sim has been around for a while mostly outside the US. I don't use visual VM so I can't attest to that. But dsds breaks RCS no matter how you have it set up under network settings. Very frustrating but that's on my 3a. Hopefully on Thursday that will change with my P4. Not holding out a ton of hope though.
It may *not* break for people like me, who use Fi and will have it provisioned for DSDS using physical SIM as well as eSIM, but both using Fi as the provider.
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It may *not* break for people like me, who use Fi and will have it provisioned for DSDS using physical SIM as well as eSIM, but both using Fi as the provider.
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That is entirely possible. But you won't know that for some months yet. In the meantime Fi with Verizon physical is kaput.
bobby janow said:
That is entirely possible. But you won't know that for some months yet. In the meantime Fi with Verizon physical is kaput.
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Wait, so you can't do Verizon physical with Fi esim?
rester555 said:
Wait, so you can't do Verizon physical with Fi esim?
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Pretty sure, and I am also sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but Verizon branded (bought from Verizon, or anywhere else as a Verizon variant) have the eSIM disabled by Verizon.
Using an unlocked version on the Verizon network should work fine.
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Wait, so you can't do Verizon physical with Fi esim?
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We were talking about RCS at the time, not DSDS. You couldn't get RCS working with Fi and Verizon but now it's been figured out. Sort of. What I have found is that if I change everything over (sms, voice, data) to Fi then reboot I can get RCS with either Fi or Verizon and even change back to Verizon as the defaults. But if I reboot with Vzw as default I lose RCS. I have to go back and redo it all, reboot and then it sticks until the next reboot.
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Pretty sure, and I am also sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but Verizon branded (bought from Verizon, or anywhere else as a Verizon variant) have the eSIM disabled by Verizon.
Using an unlocked version on the Verizon network should work fine.
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eSim was disabled on the P3 and the 3a (XL too) on Verizon branded phones. Someone said a P4 / XL Verizon bought phone can use the eSim just not with Verizon. I've not seen actual confirmation of that, only one person. So if anyone bought the P4 / XL from a Verizon store or online please post if eSim is available with another provider.
Well I have bought an unlocked phone from Fi and went to Verizon to get a physical sim and got it working. Loving it so far, but can confirm that the RCS issue works like @bobby janow stated. I can't get it to work with Verizon default after reboot. Has to be fi to get it to work until next reboot.
Can you have a different ringtone for each line/SIM?