So after much research deciding between a new Moto X and a Z3 I found a great deal on a D6633 and pulled the trigger and should have it later this week.
My questions is regarding the Nano SIM the phone uses, right now I have an HTC ONE M7 which uses a micro SIM. I have read many threads and people say if they request a new NANO SIM or if they go in the store and get a NANO SIM they have issues getting the phone working on LTE (I think its because ATT does ntot sell the Z3 so they have a hard time registering the IMEI correctly). Most people just say to use your current SIM and don't say anything to ATT. So if I wanted to go that route my only option would be to cut my current SIM, I had tried to do that before and the cutter I used destroyed my SIM card.
So people with experience getting the D6633 working on ATT what route did you go, if I were to try and cut my SIM I would get a much better cutter this time around but it still makes me a bit nervous with my past experience trying it. If you got a new NANO SIM how much of a hassle was it to get working on LTE and do you have any tips to make my transition more smooth.
Thanks!
I can not speak for ATT, but I came from the Nexus 5 which also used a micro sim. I used a scissor to cut it and it works flawlessly!
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AT&T should be able to give you a nano sim, as the iPhone 6/6+ use the same, they should have some in stock. I do not see why it would cause LTE issues.
AT&T should be able to use the IMEI in their system for the M7 and assign that to the Nano sim. I had an AT&T micro sim in my T-Mobile unlocked Note 3, went into the store with my Developer edition Moto X and asked for a new nano sim. They didn't ask me for either of my phones - just transferred whatever IMEI was in their system to the nano, handed it over and then waited while I booted up the Moto X to confirm everything was working and didn't even charge me for the new sim card. If they run into issues just tell them to use an IMEI off one of the demo phones in their showroom.
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I have read many threads and people say if they request a new NANO SIM or if they go in the store and get a NANO SIM they have issues getting the phone working on LTE (I think its because ATT does ntot sell the Z3 so they have a hard time registering the IMEI correctly).
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I think that is based on old information. Back in the day when I was trying to get a micro-SIM provisioned for LTE with my (unbranded) Sony Xperia ZL, the store rep had to use the IMEI from his own AT&T Branded Xperia TL for me.
Last week I went in to get a nano-SIM for my Z3, the store rep just entered its IMEI into their system, and I got LTE right away.
One thing to be aware of is that you also need to enable LTE in the phone itself:
Settings -> Wireless & Networks/More... -> Mobile networks -> Network Mode -> LTE (preferred)/WCDMA/GSM
And of course you need a D6503/D6603, with support for AT&T's LTE frequencies.
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With AT&T you can simply throw a sim card in and away you go with any phone you want. What do you do on AT&T namely if you have an iPhone and TBolt?
You wont be able to do it without going through Verizon to have your TB Sim card reset everytime you want to use your TB after using your iPhone.
Normally you just have to do a simple ESN swap (can do online). Unfortunately with the Thunderbolt and it's LTE SIM, things might be more complicated. I'd check with a Verizon rep to see what would be involved.
Sadly its a complete pain in the butt. One of the guys I work with had to deactivate it and reactivate it a couple of days later. The guy in the store couldn't figure out how to do it, and it took him about 3 hours on the phone with various techs to finally get it working. They ended up having to swap out the SIM card in the store.
Not sure if its the process that is tough, or if they just don't know what they are doing. Either way, I wouldn't recommend it if you can avoid it. If you really need to do it, it is possible, but its not as simple as just swapping out a SIM card like on AT&T.
Once there are more phones utilizing LTE wouldn't you just be able to swap out your sim card and put it in any LTE phone?
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Once there are more phones utilizing LTE wouldn't you just be able to swap out your sim card and put it in any LTE phone?
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Yes, this is correct. I can go buy the Droid Charge, and put in the SIM from my Thunderbolt, and I'll be good to go.
Thats pretty sweet, I wish I had the cash to drop on some more LTE phones when they come out.
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Yes, this is correct. I can go buy the Droid Charge, and put in the SIM from my Thunderbolt, and I'll be good to go.
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Are you sure about that? I thought we were still using CDMA for calls and there is no voice over 4G/LTE on VZW just yet.
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Yes, this is correct. I can go buy the Droid Charge, and put in the SIM from my Thunderbolt, and I'll be good to go.
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Pretty sure this is wrong.
When setting up my phone the rep had to set up the sim card and phone separately.
Razorz is right, we still utilize cdma for voice, so it may be possible to get data on a new phone but no voice?
A rep told me you could, never tried I don't have another Verizon phone to swap it out with. Also ATT charges activation when you swap sims "if the sim is in a different phone for a lengthy time". Also ATT will add a data plan to your account if the phone you put it in requires one.
the id number for the sim card and the ESN for the phone both must be in the verizon system associated with your phone number or the device will not work.
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Sadly its a complete pain in the butt. One of the guys I work with had to deactivate it and reactivate it a couple of days later. The guy in the store couldn't figure out how to do it, and it took him about 3 hours on the phone with various techs to finally get it working. They ended up having to swap out the SIM card in the store.
Not sure if its the process that is tough, or if they just don't know what they are doing. Either way, I wouldn't recommend it if you can avoid it. If you really need to do it, it is possible, but its not as simple as just swapping out a SIM card like on AT&T.
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they didn't know what they were doing.
When I had data problems with my TB, I switched to my INC via the activate phone link on the "my account" web page. An hour later when I tried to return to the TB, I got a prompt for the phone's IMEI, then prompted for the SIM card's number.. It error-ed. After calling CS, the rep couldn't help, got TS on the line, they manually entered the SIM number to make it work...
So it appears switching away from the TB deactivated the SIM, to switch back, VZW's TS had to re-add or re-activate the SIM.
And as thetwiztidfreak said, they did need BOTH the IMEI and SIM numbers to re-activate the TB.
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the id number for the sim card and the ESN for the phone both must be in the verizon system associated with your phone number or the device will not work.
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Correct but when you put the registered SIM in another LTE device it registers that handsets IMEI with your account. You can infact do a SIM swap with LTE, since your phone number is tied to the SIM putting the sim in another device effectively activates the phone on your account.
I should know, it's my job ;-)
It works the same way as GSM, but going from an LTE phone to a CDMA phone is a bit different, the SIM gets decactivated and becomes useless and if you want to switch back you need to go the a Verizon store for them to sell you out a new SIM for $0(some times old SIMs can be reactivated however there may b e issues with this). It's a PITA so I don't reccomend switching back and forth between CDMA and LTE devices unless you absolutely HAVE to.
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Correct but when you put the registered SIM in another LTE device it registers that handsets IMEI with your account. You can infact do a SIM swap with LTE, since your phone number is tied to the SIM putting the sim in another device effectively activates the phone on your account.
I should know, it's my job ;-)
It works the same way as GSM, but going from an LTE phone to a CDMA phone is a bit different, the SIM gets decactivated and becomes useless and if you want to switch back you need to go the a Verizon store for them to sell you out a new SIM for $0(some times old SIMs can be reactivated however there may b e issues with this). It's a PITA so I don't reccomend switching back and forth between CDMA and LTE devices unless you absolutely HAVE to.
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I can confirm that it is a royal pain in the ass to go to the vzw store to get a new sim...
I just got a replacement for my tbolt. I had 5 days to return the "defective" one. I bounced the SIM card back and forth between the two phones a dozen times trying to see which one got better 3G/4G reception. The rep told me to decide which one works better and send the other phone back. It didn't matter.
Since the droid charge uses a sim card, can I still switch to it form another verizon phone via the website? Like this: http://www.ehow.com/how_5046976_switch-phones-easily-verizon-wireless.html
I currently have an Iphone and I want to buy a droid charge off-contract and switch to it.
My guess is you have an AT&T iPhone since the Verizon iPhone doesn't have a SIM in it. The 4G LTE phone(s) as of right now its just the ThunderBolt (we are still waiting on the Droid Charge, LG Revolution and the Droid Bionic) all use a 4G LTE SIM, but that is only for LTE their current voice calls are on 3G which is CDMA and doesn't use a SIM.
So if you were swapping one 4G LTE Verizon phone to another yes you could the same SIM but not otherwise.
I have the verizon iphone. Since the charge uses a sim card, I was wondering if I could still switch from a verizon phone that does NOT use a sim card (the iphone).
i'm not talking about switching sim cards. On the verizon website, you can switch phones by inputting the ESN/MEID of the new phone.
I hope I made myself clearer (probably not).
You would need a new sim card. The sim cards are 1 time use so if you activate the iphone you will need a new sim to activate the Charge again.
I am a bit confused on this. The Verizon iPhone takes a SIM card, that isn't something I had heard before. In either case if the VZW iPhone takes one, it would be a 3G only SIM and the Charge requires a 4G LTE SIM.
I have also read from a user who had the ThunderBolt and took his 4G LTE SIM out and put it into the Charge and it worked for them. That I also found odd since it was supposed to be a one time use, per phone which seems like a waste, but its Verizon.
Its not per phone. The sim is a one time activation that once deactivated it can never be activated again. You can swap the sim to other devices but if you ever deactivate it it can never be used again.
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The verizon Iphone does not take a sim card, only the AT&T one does. That's the problem. I am hoping that I can buy a new verizon sim card and have my current number transferred to it.
Verizon will give you a new SIM for free when you activate a 4G phone (currently TBolt or Droid Charge) and will transfer your number to it. You can then swap the SIM between different 4G phones without having to call Verizon, do *228, or any other maneuvers-- it just works.
However, if you ever switch back from your 4G device to a 3G device on the same number, your SIM will become "retired" and you need to go get another one from Verizon (again, free, at least so far) if you want to switch back to a 4G phone. Or, they will mail you a SIM.
I'm (hopefully) going to be getting the M8 today/tomorrow. I presently have an iPhone 5s. Question is, can I use my current nano sim with the M8 or do I need to use the one that it comes with? I know the new SIM has to be used if I want to use NFC or whatever, but Verizon tells me if I activate the new SIM my old one (in my 5s) will expire. I am sure I'll want to swap back and forth quite a bit, so having 900 sims on hand won't be convenient. One rep says I can use my 5s sim, another says no -- so big question is, can I, or can't I? I don't care if NFC won't work, and IDK what the M8 sim would do (if anything) if I tried it in my 5s.
Thanks.
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I'm (hopefully) going to be getting the M8 today/tomorrow. I presently have an iPhone 5s. Question is, can I use my current nano sim with the M8 or do I need to use the one that it comes with? I know the new SIM has to be used if I want to use NFC or whatever, but Verizon tells me if I activate the new SIM my old one (in my 5s) will expire. I am sure I'll want to swap back and forth quite a bit, so having 900 sims on hand won't be convenient. One rep says I can use my 5s sim, another says no -- so big question is, can I, or can't I? I don't care if NFC won't work, and IDK what the M8 sim would do (if anything) if I tried it in my 5s.
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The way verizon works, I think the sim is sort of tied to the account. You still need to have the ESN on your account as verizon is not purely sim based. Therefore, I do not think you can switch sims, and if you do you MIGHT get purely LTE service, but no cdma.
You shouldn't have any problems swapping Sims. I had no problem putting the micro SIM in my HTC one m7 into my droid bionic. I did have to use an adapter since Bionic uses standard SIM but I had no problem.
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You shouldn't have any problems swapping Sims. I had no problem putting the micro SIM in my HTC one m7 into my droid bionic. I did have to use an adapter since Bionic uses standard SIM but I had no problem.
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Did you have to call in, or were you just able to swap the SIM and everything was working? I recall when I had my Razr, and swapped to the Razr Maxx all I had to do was swap the SIM, and I was good to go. Verizon has confirmed with me that the SIM will work, but I guess I won't have NFC, which again I don't care about either way. Just want to make it as simple as possible, and not have Verizon fiddle with my plan.
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Did you have to call in, or were you just able to swap the SIM and everything was working? I recall when I had my Razr, and swapped to the Razr Maxx all I had to do was swap the SIM, and I was good to go. Verizon has confirmed with me that the SIM will work, but I guess I won't have NFC, which again I don't care about either way. Just want to make it as simple as possible, and not have Verizon fiddle with my plan.
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Nope I never had to call. I even noticed that it changed my phone on the My Verizon website which was neat.
You shouldn't have any issues and no you don't have to call. I have a micro sim cut to a nano and I switch it between my M7 and 5S every now and then. If I plan on switching between my 5S and M8 it'll be easier since they both use nano.
I'm using my nano Sim from my 5s in my new M8 now. Didn't call VZW, did nothing on line, just popped it out of the iPhone and into the One.
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Assuming you're switching between devices that have like provisioning(which the two phones will) you will for sure be fine, no need to call. The devices will check in with the platform when they first boot up and the device ID on the account will change on it's own after a short while without you needing to do anything.
Well it is good to be corrected then. I take my statement back, I had no idea verizon started making sense.
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Well it is good to be corrected then. I take my statement back, I had no idea verizon started making sense.
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They did as soon as they switched to 4g sim cards.
As long as devices you swap between are 4g I haven't had an issue. The problem is when you go from 4g to 3g back in the gnex to iPhone 4s days. Every time you did that you'd burn a sim card on Verizon.
Now iI can swap from my m8 to my iPhone 5 with a quick sim swap.
Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. Will be off to get my device in a few hours. One more question, since we already established the SIM from my iPhone 5s will work in the M8, will the reverse apply as well (the SIM from the M8 working in the 5s) - I'm guessing not, since (at least from what Verizon has told me) that sim is different? I know I'll be switching back and forth between devices, so I just want to make sure I know which sim/sims will work accordingly.
Thanks again.
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Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. Will be off to get my device in a few hours. One more question, since we already established the SIM from my iPhone 5s will work in the M8, will the reverse apply as well (the SIM from the M8 working in the 5s) - I'm guessing not, since (at least from what Verizon has told me) that sim is different? I know I'll be switching back and forth between devices, so I just want to make sure I know which sim/sims will work accordingly.
Thanks again.
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You'll go get your m8 and it will come with a new sim. The old one in your iPhone will be burned after they activate the new one and Verizon won't let you use it again. Just swap the new one that comes in your m8. Don't listen to Verizon. I'm using my new sim in my m8, m7, and iPhone 5.
Burned??
What do you mean by Burned?
That it's unusable in the future?
I have reactivated a sim card before but maybe it was a different situation. I'm on a business account too. So we can change phones online without calling in. I don't know if non-business accounts can do that or not.
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You'll go get your m8 and it will come with a new sim. The old one in your iPhone will be burned after they activate the new one and Verizon won't let you use it again. Just swap the new one that comes in your m8. Don't listen to Verizon. I'm using my new sim in my m8, m7, and iPhone 5.
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Well I'm adding a new line, so they'll have to activate it on the new line. Then I plan to throw my sim from my 5s in the M8. Was just curious if the one from the M8 *would* work in the 5s, in case I decided to get a new SIM before I swap (since I know once I throw a dumb phone on the new line, the SIM from the M8 will be toast).
I'll just use my 5s one, since it seems the easiest. I hate going to Verizon so I just wanna be in and out
You won't lose NFC capability when swapping SIMs. NFC is part of the phone's hardware. What you will lose is ISIS capability, since that relies on the SIM.
You can use Google wallet just when swapping SIMs.
I modified my micro sim from the DNA and it works perfectly. The ISIS loss isn't a problem for me, as google wallet works.
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What do you mean by Burned?
That it's unusable in the future?
I have reactivated a sim card before but maybe it was a different situation. I'm on a business account too. So we can change phones online without calling in. I don't know if non-business accounts can do that or not.
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As in Verizon normally won't reactivate them. I've had wonderful arguments about this on my work side also. More often than not they've made me switch to a new SIM when reactivating something that had a SIM in it already. Say when someone loses their phone, and I have another verizon phone with a SIM already in it from a terminated Employee.
I've had it the other way to where they will. But when I was switching between a Gnex and an iPhone 4s. Every time I wanted to reactivate the Gnex I would have to go get a new SIM as they wouldn't reactivate the previous one. something about going between 3G to 4G systems.
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As in Verizon normally won't reactivate them. I've had wonderful arguments about this on my work side also. More often than not they've made me switch to a new SIM when reactivating something that had a SIM in it already. Say when someone loses their phone, and I have another verizon phone with a SIM already in it from a terminated Employee.
I've had it the other way to where they will. But when I was switching between a Gnex and an iPhone 4s. Every time I wanted to reactivate the Gnex I would have to go get a new SIM as they wouldn't reactivate the previous one. something about going between 3G to 4G systems.
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Yes. you are correct. I did experience that once when going from iphone 4 to my Rezound but once you go 4g you never go back. It's un-explainable.
I activated the nano SIM that came with the M8 and put it straight into an adapter and into my S4 (I haven't got the chance to copy files and settings over to the HTC yet so I'm still using the S4 as my phone for now) and my S4's running fine on it!
So in answer to the OP's question, just activate the new SIM and you can use that in both your iPhone and HTC (then the current SIM you have is useless). You shouldn't have any issues switching back and forth.
there's adapters on amazon to take your new nano sim and put it in phones that require a micro sim or other size. But i switch between my phones all the time and all it takes is putting in your current SIM card
2 months ago a friend of mine bought himself a bad esn motorola droid ultra for Verizon carrier on ebay and it works for T-mobile and AT&T just fine. His droid ultra was running stock android 4.2.2. Just recently I bought myself a bad esn motorola droid ultra for verizon on craigslist that's running android 4.4.4. I'm with T-mobile service, but I like verizon phones so I bought it thinking that it would work for T-mobile. Unfortunately to my surprise when I put in my T-mobile nano simcard, I notice that for the first 2 seconds it would seem like it's connecting because I can see two white bars then all of a sudden it would vanish. And all I see is a black triangle with dark-gray lines next to the wifi signal indicator, and not only that but I would also see something that reads: RESTRICTED ACCESS CHANGED on the upper top left corner. I tried changing the settings to GSM only and still that doesn't work. I tried using the Phone Info app to tweak the settings and still that doesn't work. So my best guesses are 1) sim tray is bad. 2) it has a bad esn so verizon blocked the phone from being used because an Apple tech person told me that Verizon, T-mobile, and AT&T shares one database where they keep and block all bad esn phones. 3) Motorola disabled the gsm radio on the 4.4.4 android update because Verizon didn't want people on T-mobile service using this particular droid ultra phone on the T-mobile network, so that's why Motorola was so quick to release the 4.4.4 android update for it. Well what other reasons for it not working for T-mobile I don't know. I guess I'm stuck with a giant ipod-touch like android media player. Any suggestions on how to get T-mobile to work on it would be great.
The Sim may be bad. My tmo Sim just went bad.
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The Sim may be bad. My tmo Sim just went bad.
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Just went tried it with an AT&T nano sim-card from my brother's iphone 5, and the droid ultra was able to pick up signal; and make phone calls and send text messages right off the bat. I figure it could be my T-mobile card so I went and bought a regular standard size T-mobile sim-card, and had it trim down into a nano size sim-card; but unfortunately it still wouldn't work. So my guess is that in order for the droid ultra to recognize the T-mobile sim-card it has to be an original nano sim-card. I will go to Tmobile store and buy a nano sim-card and see if it will make any difference. Thanks for your suggestion.
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2 months ago a friend of mine bought himself a bad esn motorola droid ultra for Verizon carrier on ebay and it works for T-mobile and AT&T just fine. His droid ultra was running stock android 4.2.2. Just recently I bought myself a bad esn motorola droid ultra for verizon on craigslist that's running android 4.4.4. I'm with T-mobile service, but I like verizon phones so I bought it thinking that it would work for T-mobile. Unfortunately to my surprise when I put in my T-mobile nano simcard, I notice that for the first 2 seconds it would seem like it's connecting because I can see two white bars then all of a sudden it would vanish. And all I see is a black triangle with dark-gray lines next to the wifi signal indicator, and not only that but I would also see something that reads: RESTRICTED ACCESS CHANGED on the upper top left corner. I tried changing the settings to GSM only and still that doesn't work. I tried using the Phone Info app to tweak the settings and still that doesn't work. So my best guesses are 1) sim tray is bad. 2) it has a bad esn so verizon blocked the phone from being used because an Apple tech person told me that Verizon, T-mobile, and AT&T shares one database where they keep and block all bad esn phones. 3) Motorola disabled the gsm radio on the 4.4.4 android update because Verizon didn't want people on T-mobile service using this particular droid ultra phone on the T-mobile network, so that's why Motorola was so quick to release the 4.4.4 android update for it. Well what other reasons for it not working for T-mobile I don't know. I guess I'm stuck with a giant ipod-touch like android media player. Any suggestions on how to get T-mobile to work on it would be great.
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Dude any bad esn from verizon is not going to work with tmobile anymore. T-Mobile and verizon now share block list. At&t doesn't share verizon's bad imei thats why it works with at&t. Before Verizon bad esn phones worked with T-Mobile now it doesn't.
Has anyone used this feature? It was one of the reasons I got the phone - I'm planning on moving my landline number to the phone. AT&T said they don't support dual sims (if it works it works, if it doesn't - sorry!). So I thought I'd ask to see if anyone is using dual sims (preferably with AT&T) and how the experience is going .. thanks!
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Has anyone used this feature? It was one of the reasons I got the phone - I'm planning on moving my landline number to the phone. AT&T said they don't support dual sims (if it works it works, if it doesn't - sorry!). So I thought I'd ask to see if anyone is using dual sims (preferably with AT&T) and how the experience is going .. thanks!
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I have two sims in it since day one - works great!
I made this little video of how Dual Sim cards works on this phone:
You can switch data source without taking sims out (in settings)
2 AT&T sims will work just fine - it does not matter who the carrier iss as long as phone can read the sim cards. I use two t-mobile sims. People here have both t-mo and AT&T sims in.
Can't help you when it comes to AT&T as I'm in Australia these days, but we've had mixed results. My wife has a Blu Pure XL and I use a OnePlus 2. Both of us have SIMs on Virgin (Optus reseller) and Telstra - mine are prepaid, hers are postpaid.
In her case, having both SIMs activated leaves her primary Virgin SIM nearly useless. She can surf the web but no other apps work over broadband (including Email, Hangouts, Location services). If she takes it to a Virgin store and finds a sympathetic employee, he/she can go and "reset the back end" of her account and everything starts working again - for about a day or so. Other employees simply check the settings and proclaim it's a software problem with her OS.
In my case, everything works normally - except when I'm at home. When at home I need to disable the Telstra SIM (data-only) on my OP2 in order for the Virgin SIM to work in any capacity. I've checked and my local tower supports 2G, FWIW.
Of course, Australia and the U.S. are not known for dual-SIM phones - they're more popular in countries where you can't rely on having coverage from any one company as you move about. It's arguable that dual SIM phones potentially cut into the market of any individual mobile provider, so I doubt you'll find anyone willing to support them.
I doubt any provider will actively block the feature, but if some quirk of their setup causes you a problem, you're probably on your own.
For what it's worth, I've seen both the OnePlus 2 and the Blu Pure XL use dual SIMs perfectly well. Just - not all the time!