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Beginning to think the Sensations Issues, WIFI, SCREEN ETC. Are from Grounding.

The phone has such a ground issue that its causing all this, screen issue seems ground issue, wifi, ground, unlock screen, ground.
There is something completely wrong with the way this is grounded causing all the issues, hell even the charger issues could be because of that. I think they need to redesign this thing. I know some claim to have good ones, but Ive had 3 so far with the same issues. I just dont know what to do anymore. Damn g2x wasnt so bad after all.

Any more mad cap theories??

No issues here. Maybe there is a problem with the batch you have been replacing your devices from. No need to redesign the phone.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

Not seen any issues with mine, 100% fine.. must be a bad batch or certain firmware revision. O2 UK firmware and phone fine.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

smashpunks said:
The phone has such a ground issue that its causing all this, screen issue seems ground issue, wifi, ground, unlock screen, ground.
There is something completely wrong with the way this is grounded causing all the issues, hell even the charger issues could be because of that. I think they need to redesign this thing. I know some claim to have good ones, but Ive had 3 so far with the same issues. I just dont know what to do anymore. Damn g2x wasnt so bad after all.
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Any issues I've had were down to the ZDBox app. After I've uninstalled that I've no issues really
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smashpunks said:
The phone has such a ground issue that its causing all this, screen issue seems ground issue, wifi, ground, unlock screen, ground.
There is something completely wrong with the way this is grounded causing all the issues, hell even the charger issues could be because of that. I think they need to redesign this thing. I know some claim to have good ones, but Ive had 3 so far with the same issues. I just dont know what to do anymore. Damn g2x wasnt so bad after all.
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Hello guys,new guy here.
There may be a ground issue with the user,not the phone.
Bear with me:
I used to have a good buddy that could never wear a wrist watch for mare than a week.
After that,they died.
It didn't matter how expensive a watch he bought...they all died.
In this case,there could very well be a static buildup coming from the user's body.
Clothes,diet,etc. can affect body chemistry.
If it acts up again,try touching the backside of the phone to a water faucet for a few seconds.
See if grounding out the case helps.

smashpunks said:
The phone has such a ground issue that its causing all this, screen issue seems ground issue, wifi, ground, unlock screen, ground.
There is something completely wrong with the way this is grounded causing all the issues, hell even the charger issues could be because of that. I think they need to redesign this thing. I know some claim to have good ones, but Ive had 3 so far with the same issues. I just dont know what to do anymore. Damn g2x wasnt so bad after all.
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No issues with mine whatsoever.....
Keep in mind before these blanket statements are made, that most owners do not have all the issues you might have. It's by no means the norm. As others mentioned, you may simply have a bad device....or bad app, SD card.
The vast MAJORITY of owners have no such problems....it gets WAY blown out of scale on these and other forums. It would be better to title your thread "I have grounding issues"...
Also, as always, anyone with major issues needs to make sure they still have said issues after a factory reset with nothing installed, no 3rd party apps, no SD card etc. If ya still have issues after that....ya got a defective device.
The vast majority of Sensations are fine....let's keep it real.

We get it....you're having problems with your device....You don't need to start a new thread everyday....I'm sure this could have went into one of your MANY OTHER THREADS YOU'VE ALREADY MADE. As for your "grounding issue", the same thing was said about the nexus one and the EVO....and in the end NEITHER OF THEM HAD A GROUNDING PROBLEM. Just as this phone DOES NOT have a grounding issue either. That being said, if you're having so many problems, return your phone, and go back to your G2X. There really is no reason for a grown man to be whining so incessantly. You have already started several threads about your many problems...post in those....No need to keep creating new threads every time you feel like complaining.
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As the previous posters have stated, no I don't have a problem either.

Cass67 said:
Not seen any issues with mine, 100% fine.. must be a bad batch or certain firmware revision. O2 UK firmware and phone fine.
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I've got a TMo US Sensation, and it's great. The only "problems" i've noticed is the rare sense lag, but it always clears up in a matter of seconds. And the battery life is amazing compared to my Evo (i can go 2-2.5 days on a charge, same usage level would drain my evo in 10ish hours). While I eagerly await s-off and persistent root, I think this is a very good phone especially so recent after release.

This is your 2nd or 3rd thread that you have made to complain about something. Thread closed, start another thread complaining and I am going to consider infractions.

How would one go about disabling/enabling when a phone can and cannot be charged?

I have a very unique situation.
I dropped my phone in the trash at work(IT Company), accidentally one day, and a small amount of disturbingly gross liquid managed to make it's way into my phone.
I wiped it down, made sure it didn't smell like crap - etc.
Everything worked FINE at first, I said ah, good. Apparently it was not not good.
Now, the phone gets stuck in a loop where it thinks to itself it's charging for a second, then it's not, keeping the screen on and flashing the charging notification repetitively until it decides to stop for an hour, then come back.
Radioshack screwed me over BIG TIME on my phone insurance, I filed a ripoff report etc, and given I need my phone for work related issues I really cannot afford to have any downtime having it be sent in and repaired. NO, I cannot receive an immediate replacement, and NO, I cannot afford another phone.
So, therefore I come to you, my great friends at XDA.
I've a fairly decent background in programming, I understand the just of it. I've taken classes in ASM(Microcomputer Architecture and Programming), C/Java and Python.
And no, I'm not a college-fed programmer, I've been programming in VB, C/C++, PERL etc. since I was 13(22 now.)
So, to the specifics:
My phone is a Samsung Transform Ultra, Android 2.3, rooted and running a "ROM" if you could call it that, but it shouldn't make that much of a difference(just installed it to get rid of CIQ)
Now, I've never wrote a mobile app before but I have the android SDK (1.6-4.0), and I'm fairly certain I could get a hello world going in a matter of minutes.
I'm willing to do the research myself, I just need some good pointers and some people who might be able to answer a few questions along my journey, and when the app is done I will be releasing it in full, yes, to you XDA.
Programming costs time, replacing the phone costs money. I have more time than money.
Best regards!

Bump.
Any help on this issue would be GREATLY, GREATLY appreciated as this is quite possibly the most angering issue imaginable.

I don't know if this will help, but I had a similar problem with my galaxy S. It turned out to be a tiny piece of silver paper that had managed to get into the micro usb slot. A quick shake later and problem solved.
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thebotnet said:
I have a very unique situation.
I dropped my phone in the trash at work(IT Company), accidentally one day, and a small amount of disturbingly gross liquid managed to make it's way into my phone.
I wiped it down, made sure it didn't smell like crap - etc.
Everything worked FINE at first, I said ah, good. Apparently it was not not good.
Now, the phone gets stuck in a loop where it thinks to itself it's charging for a second, then it's not, keeping the screen on and flashing the charging notification repetitively until it decides to stop for an hour, then come back.
Radioshack screwed me over BIG TIME on my phone insurance, I filed a ripoff report etc, and given I need my phone for work related issues I really cannot afford to have any downtime having it be sent in and repaired. NO, I cannot receive an immediate replacement, and NO, I cannot afford another phone.
So, therefore I come to you, my great friends at XDA.
I've a fairly decent background in programming, I understand the just of it. I've taken classes in ASM(Microcomputer Architecture and Programming), C/Java and Python.
And no, I'm not a college-fed programmer, I've been programming in VB, C/C++, PERL etc. since I was 13(22 now.)
So, to the specifics:
My phone is a Samsung Transform Ultra, Android 2.3, rooted and running a "ROM" if you could call it that, but it shouldn't make that much of a difference(just installed it to get rid of CIQ)
Now, I've never wrote a mobile app before but I have the android SDK (1.6-4.0), and I'm fairly certain I could get a hello world going in a matter of minutes.
I'm willing to do the research myself, I just need some good pointers and some people who might be able to answer a few questions along my journey, and when the app is done I will be releasing it in full, yes, to you XDA.
Programming costs time, replacing the phone costs money. I have more time than money.
Best regards!
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One maybe possible solution maybe... (free app) (need root)
Hardware Disabler
The though is, in order to stop that you are going to have to disable the actual USB port. You are going to have to play around and find out what driver corresponds to that USB port ... good luck, let me know if it helped.
(Yes I made that app)

HTC for life?, One X has sent me packing.

I've always had an HTC phone everything from the EVO shift (yee yeah), to the Inspire HD, then got a Vivid, now I'm using this One X AT&T. I've been spoiled by Sense, I can't imagine having to use a Samsung. It's nice, fast yada yada but geeez its bubbly icons kill it for me.
This OneX I can't understand why the All the softkeys or home keys have been changed. The back key is for left hand people, Why does the recent apps button even exist and then put it in the most convenient place? No battery? What I mean to say is no extra battery. Ive always bought an extra battery so that if I don't have a plug-in or charger I got it covered.
Can someone give me any reason why the charge port is on the side?
No SD storage... This is probably the main reason Im done with HTC. A factory reset from the bootloader erases everything on your phone including backups. EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE! Not the recovery though...
Is there any way of securing the data so this never happens?
Now my camera has went out. No camera.. Ive tried everything, I even called HTC support they tried and they say "need new hardware". I really hate to tear into this phone.
I never write these vent posts.. I would fight someone lastweek if they talked trash about HTC phones. Maybe I got lemon, it's just One thing after another.
Although it seems like I'm trashing this phone I really love it. I just can't store anything important on it or take pictures, video.. I've read so many posts on replacing the camera but I just hate to tear into it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I never knew how important it was..
No one can say anything bad about the screen on the One X. It's amazing..
Sound is great
Smooth running phone too..
I'm scared to spend money on another HTC product. Maybe there is a way to try out a phone for a couple days that would be great.
THOUGHTS?????
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unlocked, rooted, S-off
TurboCharged
Tampered like a mother f....er

You have the right to voice your opinion but this isn't really the place to do it. You're just knocking the phone. It's not a perfect phone, but it's really good once you get it rooted and all that. Stay respectful, everyone!
Sent from my evita

I'm wondering why you bought it on the first place.
Almost all of your complaints are hardware ones that you know about before buying the phone?
Personally I don't mind the hardware at all. External SD would be nice but not a big deal. And I like right side unlock buttons.
As far as the camera I think it was just bad luck or damage. Haven't heard about it happening much at all.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

My niggles:
They put pogo contacts on the phone... but couldn't be bothered to make anything that actually uses them.
9.xGB of storage when I was expecting the typical 14.xGB for a phone advertised with 16GB.
HUGE pain to get root early on, though partially att's fault.
The phone loses signal if I leave it face up. (really gotta find time to get that fixed...)
Other than that, it's been an awesome phone.

I think HTC could've improved more in the music department and camera, but I agree with RollTribe. It's not a perfect phone, and there will never be a perfect phone imo. For me it was the software and hardware (GPS works!!) that made me stay.
Overall I would consider the XL solid. I'm going to look past the HTC One, though, and wait for the next generation.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

I think the back button is in a perfect spot for right handed people, it is right in reach of my thumb when held in my right hand.
You complain about the recent app button, but I don't follow your complaint. It exists so you can multitask, you say it is in a convenient spot and I agree, easily accessed by the right thumb when held right handed.
Extra battery? I have never found myself wanting to buy extra batteries for any phone ever. I just charge mine when required. This phone lasts a full day easy if you are not playing games on it. I am a heavy phone user with maybe 30-50 calls every work day, sync an ics calendar every hour, use calendar, contacts, browser and email a whole bunch. The phone lasts the entire day. These days with my car dock I can play games all day without issue
Charge port on the side makes for easy landscape car docking, perfect for GPS. I slip mine into the car charger often these days, it is one of the easiest phones to get in and out of the dock as the charge port is on the side.
SD storage, again I use my phone for a whole bunch of things and have never gone close to using the full storage. I stream over Spotify via Bluetooth to my car head unit. I have about 20-30 user apps installed. I just can not fill the phone. I even have the 16GB model from Hong Kong while most around me who bought from Telstra have 32GB.
I have had my phone for 15 months now and the camera still works perfectly. My last phone(s) was a Nexus One and a Nokia E68(or something) I smashed the camera lens on the Nokia before 12 months, not sure how, but my One XL is fine.
Then the next user, Zodiac:
I like the unlock at the top, easy to reach with right index finger, but can not be accidentally pushed.
Then, antichamp:
pogo pin issues( I initially really wanted to use the pogo pins aswell just for the gimmick until I realized they only seem cool)
1)The pogo pins are used on the desk dock.
2)The USB port actually "locks" the phone in to the car dock, the car dock requires a locking mechanism unlike the desk dock.
3)The pogo pins would cause scratch marks along the back as the pins drag along the case as you slide the phone in and out of a car dock.
4)The pins on the dock would wear out because of #3
5)What is wrong with the USB port?
The phone is easy to get root on. All issues are AT&T, the phone in EVERY other region is a breeze to unlock.
My gripe is weird data issues, where you sometimes need to give the phone a kick (eg via airplane mode toggling) to reset data (3g, 4g or wifi).
This was been improved dramatically though the updates but is still a niggling issue that sometimes crops up.
Also originally I disliked not having a hardware menu key and being forced into the Android 3 dot menu thing. Ofcourse HTC listened and fixed that issue in an update.

When you say sound is great are we talking about the same phone? Can barely hear my phone speakers from the back seat of my car.
That and spotty service/data issues are my only gripes on this phone.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app

cannonofcourse said:
Now my camera has went out. No camera.. Ive tried everything, I even called HTC support they tried and they say "need new hardware". I really hate to tear into this phone.
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I think I might be having the same issue as you. Does the camera app just freeze immediately and crash? Then says cannot connect to camera when you try to open it again. Happened to me on AOKP Milestone 2 (rohan said it was an issue in the mainline AOKP), but now I've run 3.18 RUU and flashed the latest CM10.1 nightly and had the same issue.
Sent from my S-Off, turbo injected AT&T HTC One X (evita), running AOKP 4.2.2 & using XDA Premium

cannonofcourse said:
A factory reset from the bootloader erases everything on your phone including backups. EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE! Not the recovery though...
Is there any way of securing the data so this never happens?
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This only occurs after you have modded the phone, so you can't blame HTC for this. Factory reset from bootloader works fine on stock phones.
The way to secure your data is very simple: Don't factory reset from bootloader. Its been mentioned in countless places. So if you wiped your backups, its your own fault for lack of proper research.

Research? Lets just try and read before quoting...
redpoint73 said:
This only occurs after you have modded the phone, so you can't blame HTC for this. Factory reset from bootloader works fine on stock phones.
The way to secure your data is very simple: Don't factory reset from bootloader. Its been mentioned in countless places. So if you wiped your backups, its your own fault for lack of proper research.
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I would expect this kind of blasphemy if I posted a dumb video on YouTube, but the fact that this is a dev site full of "professionals". I posted a comment against my better judgement to try and find answers or suggestions about my phone. The first response is that
"This isnt the place for that" And then 2nd response is
"Why did you buy the one x, you should have known about these things"
First of all I dont think its constructive to rip someone down for a post when clearly alot of people are having the same problem. And I wish I would have found an honest review of this phone before I bought it. I wish I could have read my post before buying this phone. But for some reason Im a black sheep (to a few) for giving my opinion on very important flaws that anyone should be concerned with. I love HTC and have 6 devices prior to this one.
Im not sure who (the 5th reply) twist....? works for and to make statements like never having a storage issue and dont mind the internal card.? I never said anything about the storage. I am commenting on the fact you cant remove the sd card just to make sure the data is secure. And I would love to have a number of how many people use a car dock or computer dock.?? Maybe this guy works for a manufacturer/...///??
I always carry an extra battery and Im not the only person who does. To act like that is unreasonable is just ridiculous.
Of course not all phones are perfect Of course! Why would anyone feel the need to say that...
I love my ONE X It just annoys me that I cant take pictures of my little girl with it. Or store any important data on it. Ive had at least 5 people contact me about the camera issue and are having the same problem.
This last reply to my review and concerns and wanted suggestions takes the cake.
The last comment clearly says that if "you want to secure your data then dont do a factory reset from the boot-loader. It only happens on Modded phones". I have 6 HTC phones and none of them wipe the complete phone to include the external sd. NONE... I wanted to know if it was possible to lock the sd storage or "trick" it to thinking it had an external sd and dont wipe that. If you dont know the answer then fine. I dont see how that is irrational. And I dont think anyone comes to this site because they want to get information on "never modding or rooting there phone." This site is kinda geared towards people who enjoy learning and doing cool, great and ingenious things to make everyone's life better. Or awesome. But to get completely ripped by senior members and the comments being about something other than what I or other members even said is UN professional. This site encourages members to post on General Forumns. I think its 10 before I can move to the big boy pages. But at this rate what could I possible have to gain by it. If I make mistakes or brick my phone then why should I feel like an idiot for wanting people to know why and how it happened to save them a headache? I dont see how typing anymore will stress how childish most of the replies to my posts have been, cannonofcourse out...

You need to calm down. Redpoint was right.
Sent from my Evita

Bottom line, you want perfect stability, Don't root.

cannonofcourse said:
The back key is for left hand people,
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I'm right handed and it really doesn't bother me. I can sympathize with having to get used to differences on devices. It always takes a while for me to get used to things.
cannonofcourse said:
No battery? What I mean to say is no extra battery. Ive always bought an extra battery so that if I don't have a plug-in or charger I got it covered.
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I find that external battery packs are way more convenient. You can pick up a 10,000 mah Anker pack for under $50 and it'll charge your phone several times. And it works for any other devices that you might have that charge via USB. And it will work on the next phone that you buy.
cannonofcourse said:
Can someone give me any reason why the charge port is on the side?
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No idea. It does however work very well with the iBolt car dock. Quick and easy to put the phone in and lock it.
cannonofcourse said:
No SD storage... This is probably the main reason Im done with HTC. A factory reset from the bootloader erases everything on your phone including backups. EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE! Not the recovery though...
Is there any way of securing the data so this never happens?
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I found this out the hard way as well, but anything on my phone exists other places. I don't consider my phone to be a place to store unrecoverable files. My photos are automatically backed up to G+, contacts and email are on Google, anything else doesn't really matter.
cannonofcourse said:
Now my camera has went out. No camera.. Ive tried everything, I even called HTC support they tried and they say "need new hardware". I really hate to tear into this phone.
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That just sucks. I had to get a warranty replacement at one point due to a bad SIM slot, but the AT&T service center swapped it out no questions asked, didn't even notice that the bootloader was unlocked.
With all of that said, I really do think that people here are trying to help.

cannonofcourse said:
I would expect this kind of blasphemy if I posted a dumb video on YouTube, but the fact that this is a dev site full of "professionals".
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So if anybody disagrees with you, its "blasphemy"??? Nobody here is a professional. Professionals get paid. If you mean courteous and polite, I don't see any responses to the contrary. Yes, several of us have disagreed with you. But not in any way that can remotely be considered a flame, personal attack, etc.
I was simply pointing out a FACT that the factory reset from bootloader bug exists due to the phone being hacked. HTC could have not have predicted every way user-implemented mods could harm the phone. You have some legitimate criticisms of HTC and the phone. But the factory reset issue isn't one of them.
You asked for our thoughts. We gave them. Or maybe you just wanted to hear from people that agreed with you?

I'm done with HTC as well if motorola steps up its game with the X but frankly i'll support anyone except samsung. I just want to see android evolve to more than just 1 oem (samsung).
I don't hold the past against any oem. If i like the new phone, i'll buy it.

twistedddx said:
Then, antichamp:
pogo pin issues( I initially really wanted to use the pogo pins aswell just for the gimmick until I realized they only seem cool)
1)The pogo pins are used on the desk dock.
2)The USB port actually "locks" the phone in to the car dock, the car dock requires a locking mechanism unlike the desk dock.
3)The pogo pins would cause scratch marks along the back as the pins drag along the case as you slide the phone in and out of a car dock.
4)The pins on the dock would wear out because of #3
5)What is wrong with the USB port?
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There is no desk dock for this phone...
For the international version there is, regardless of it's mediocre reviews.
I recently discovered the unfortunate truth of your 2nd point (I'm trying to make my own car dock).
On three and four, wouldn't that indicate a poor design of the phone? (blame the user ala apple's "you're holding it wrong")
There's nothing wrong with the usb port, I just think it would be convienient to both charge the phone and get analog audio out without connecting both the usb and 3.5mm jack.
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I had to get a warranty replacement at one point due to a bad SIM slot, but the AT&T service center swapped it out no questions asked, didn't even notice that the bootloader was unlocked.
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Hmmm, bad sim slot you say?
If I don't leave my phone face down it loses service. I have to restart it upside down and shake it before it will come back.
Think I could have the same problem?

It's possible. Or it could just be the SIM carrier.
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Well....
fleabeard said:
I'm right handed and it really doesn't bother me. I can sympathize with having to get used to differences on devices. It always takes a while for me to get used to things.
I find that external battery packs are way more convenient. You can pick up a 10,000 mah Anker pack for under $50 and it'll charge your phone several times. And it works for any other devices that you might have that charge via USB. And it will work on the next phone that you buy.
Actually I bought one of the "power on the go" packs from radio shack and broke it apart, replaced the battery with a 3600mah I ordered for my evo on accident. It cost about 8 dollars (plus the cost of the extra battery 12 bucks I think) and it charges my phone incredibly fast and about 3 times before I have to charge it back.up. Nothing worse than hearing that beep noise when your trying to get something done.
No idea. It does however work very well with the iBolt car dock. Quick and easy to put the phone in and lock it.
I found this out the hard way as well, but anything on my phone exists other places. I don't consider my phone to be a place to store unrecoverable files. My photos are automatically backed up to G+, contacts and email are on Google, anything else doesn't really matter.
I do try to back up everything to the cloud, via Google drive or I have a media server but it always seems like the one thing I needed is gone forever. I just found out the hard way that a reset from the bootloader took out my whole phone. It just sucks not being able to pull the card out and hold it.
That just sucks. I had to get a warranty replacement at one point due to a bad SIM slot, but the AT&T service center swapped it out no questions asked, didn't even notice that the bootloader was unlocked.
It seems like a certain set of serial numbers are having a hardware issue. I hate to go without my phone to get it fixed but I guess thats what I have to do. Thats the price we pay to have it all wrapped up in one little cool device.
With all of that said, I really do think that people here are trying to help.
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I know there are plenty of people that do a fantastic superhuman job. Just hours of searching to find out if someone has or is working on a fix or if I can provide info to contribute seems like so many people just lashing out for no reason.. But maybe Im being defensive.
Thanks

Unfortunately I highly doubt the issues you've brought up can be "fixed".
But...
I'm pretty sure you can change the location of the back button on certain aosp ROMs though.
Using battery case should mitigate the need for a removable battery.
The fact that doing a factory reset from bootloader wipes your phone can't be changed, but a little research on here warns of that in numerous places. And I don't think that's necessarily HTC's fault. It's up to us to educate ourselves about the risks we face when altering our devices.
For instance: TWRP 2.6 has an advanced wipe feature which makes it very easy to wipe your sd card while wiping the usual system and caches. I did that myself just recently, accidentally checked the wrong box and wiped my sd. I lost everything. Without a backup. So many photos of my kids gone for good. But I don't blame TWRP for making it easy to do that. I blame myself for working too fast and not being careful enough.
Sent from my Evita

cannonofcourse said:
I know there are plenty of people that do a fantastic superhuman job. Just hours of searching to find out if someone has or is working on a fix or if I can provide info to contribute seems like so many people just lashing out for no reason.. But maybe Im being defensive.
Thanks
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Did the factory reset thrrough bootloader cause your problems??
If so, all yous gotta do is plug yer phone right into your computer and let windows detect it. Once it finds it, it will send you a window that says something along the lines of having an error with the sd card, from there click the button that says fix errors, and your all set. This happened to me before and I couldnt play music, store or access anything, or use the camera. But now it works perfectly.
And as for the extra battery, the portable chargers provide more battery life with less money. It makes more sense to buy a portable charger even if we did have removable batteries. :good::good::good::good:

Bad battery on I9505. How to check if your battery is bad and more.

Hey guys,
for a few weeks now, my phone has been randomly shutting off at the slightest increase of load. Whether it be loading a YouTube video, playing the casual session of Cut the Rope (Does it count as casual when you complete all three parts with perfects everywhere in about two weeks?) and maybe Plants vs Zombies.
I've not seen similar symptoms on XDA, but who knows when it will hit the next person?
Now, I've searched quite a few forums, such as Android Central, but haven't found a thread similar to this.
I created this thread, in the hopes that it'll help some more people.
Read on if you think you have a bad battery.
Likely symptoms of a bad battery
Serial number starts with BD (Could it be short for BAD? Illuminati! Just kidding )
Phone randomly shuts off completely at the slightest increase of load
Phone refuses to power on again for a few minutes (Turning it back on usually causes it to shut off before/during boot)
The phone constantly looses signal
The phone gets extremely hot when not being used
I've had all of these symptoms and I can promise you it's a known problem.
What will happen if I don't change the battery?
Several things might happen if you don't change the battery:
The battery may explode (Leaving you with either a really big hole in your leg, or worse you might loose some bits and pieces.
The battery may leak and damage your phone irreparably.
The battery may leak and corrode your legs, clothes or what ever encloses the phone.
What can I do?
You can either go to a Samsung Repair Centre or go to your local retailer/provider.
They should cover this under warranty, no matter if the device is rooted or not.
If they don't, you CAN press charges/sue the company/provider.
Why? If they do not replace your battery, they may lead you to harm either by explosion or corrosion.
But that's a last-resort.
What I did, is following:
I called my provider (German Telekom, call them for free from your mobile in Germany under
Code:
2202
) and told them what is going on. They asked me what exactly is happening and got following response:
German Telekom Call Centre Agent said:
Oh, f*ck. Get to your nearest store and get that replaced immediately!
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which is what I'm doing tomorrow.
You can always use this as a good excuse to buy one of those extended batteries, but why should you? The stock battery is pretty decent.
I'll update this thread when I'm back or on my way back home and let you guys know what exactly happened.
I hope this can help someone with these issues and I can help prevent loosing a leg, or worse, different bits and bobs.
If you're experiencing this problem, and you've done something similar, let others know below!
Edit: I had a Galaxy S III lying around. It's battery fits more or less snug and works as long as you have the back panel on the phone. I'm using it until I get to the store tomorrow.

Yeah....I had the battery problem on S4 about two months ago and Samsung confirm that it was a known issue and that about 30% of S4 battery might be affected. They replaced my battery without any question asked.
See link below as well:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...lems-samsung-offers-free-battery-replacements
Part of the symptoms include swollen battery as well. My battery got swollen to a point that it started pushing my battery cover and the screen out. If you want to know that you have a swollen battery, put it on a desk and give it a spin. If it rolls (with the middle of the battery touching the desk) , then you have a defective battery and you should get it replaced at no cost.
Another symptom is that your battery could go from 100% charged to 0% (phone won't be able to start unless you connect a charger) during a reboot. It will then jumped to about 80% full after connecting your phone to a charger.

Beatsleigher said:
Hey guys,
Edit: I had a Galaxy S III lying around. It's battery fits more or less snug and works as long as you have the back panel on the phone. I'm using it until I get to the store tomorrow.
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May I propose you to use the SEARCH button BEFORE you will start another thread?
I know it is painful, as you just have discovered America... sadly, you're the 1492nd person who did it in last week only.
possible search result, if you'd not be too lazy...

May I propose to read the thread?
It contains solutions and symptoms of a bad battery. And I was giving my personal experiences
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Beatsleigher said:
May I propose to read the thread?
It contains solutions and symptoms of a bad battery. And I was giving my personal experiences
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Symptoms: serial number of faulty batch; swithing off while showing different load state, heating, swollen battery.
Remedy: replace the battery. By purchasing, visiting the Samsung centre or calling the Samsung Customer Help in ANY country.
So, please, read the linked thread again. Take special attention on the posts: 1; 2; 9; 12; 17; 18; 28; 29; 33; 34; 36.
So far, you were unable to find the linked in my previous post thread, what gives some interesting picture about the ... ability of searching.
Symptoms: wrong as well, because typical for DB bad battery case symptom is that you cannot turn the phone on back again, no matter how long you would wait, without putting the phone to the charger. As well, phone was not going hot (above normal level) no matter, used or not.
Finally, the phone wasn't loosing signal more frequently than normal.
"What will happen section" :, your statement that bad BD series battery will leak, explode, cause the nuclear blast or whatever is unjustified, because the battery is swelling so badly that it would damage the screen much faster. ( further info here and here - I hope you will be able to find the appropriate posts by yourself. If not - please ask, I will help you if your parents are too busy).
Furthermore, so called solutions you tried to provide are ridiculous, as Samsung knows the problem with BD batteries and replaces it without single word, worldwide (examples from threads: Asia, Australia, Africa, Europe).
Last but not least: on the XDA, there is simple set of rules, where one of them states: DO NOT REPLICATE the posts and threads, USE the search button before posting and add your comment to the existing thread before starting a new one if the similar thread exists.
so far, your thread is the 4th related with officially called back by Samsung faulty BD series of batteries.

I don't see anything wrong with this thread and am leaving it open. It provides useful information, which is clearly outlined in the OP, and may cut down on future threads being opened about it.
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Convert non-removable battery to use on phone with removable battery?

I had been thinking about this. Is there any way to use or convert or transform those non-removable/embedded/built-in/internal batteries as external/removable batteries? Does the built-in batteries also have the 3-pins like removable batteries inside? Is it possible?

Probably with some soldering and electrical know how, sure. Not sure it would be worth it, but yeah.

kolniklaus said:
I had been thinking about this. Is there any way to use or convert or transform those non-removable/embedded/built-in/internal batteries as external/removable batteries? Does the built-in batteries also have the 3-pins like removable batteries inside? Is it possible?
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Possible? Yes
But....
Very impractical for more reasons than I can list due to the fact that you're talking about doing it with lithium batteries which are unstable to begin with, in part, it's that instability that make them a good energy source. Controllably unstable like the engines on a rocket ship, in control but just barely enough to get it to do what you want as long as you don't deviate from its design/function and can go wrong at any moment with the slightest change in variables.
In my opinion, you're more likely to start a fire or at least burn a device up than have any kind of sensible long term success.
I'm sure we all have heard about the note 7 and the hover board incedents, right? That's all I could picture when I read this OP.
Yikes!!!
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Please explain your nonsensical post
Please explain why the connection between the phone and a non-removable battery differs so much from a built - in battery that it would be dangerous. They're virtually identical. I have to consider your post propaganda from the phone companies that benefit from the planned obsolescence unless you reply. I'm considering converting a note 10 so I can upgrade from a note 4 finally. Would like to do so safely. Hope you get this and respond because you sound like you know what you're talking about, but I'm old enough to have encountered good liars, and I simply can't see why this would be as dangerous as you're trying to make it seem. The note 7 was a problem with the battery itself, not the fact that it was built-in or removable. Thanks.

affg said:
Please explain why the connection between the phone and a non-removable battery differs so much from a built - in battery that it would be dangerous. They're virtually identical. I have to consider your post propaganda from the phone companies that benefit from the planned obsolescence unless you reply. I'm considering converting a note 10 so I can upgrade from a note 4 finally. Would like to do so safely. Hope you get this and respond because you sound like you know what you're talking about, but I'm old enough to have encountered good liars, and I simply can't see why this would be as dangerous as you're trying to make it seem. The note 7 was a problem with the battery itself, not the fact that it was built-in or removable. Thanks.
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If the battery is the same form factor, same dimensions, has the contacts in the correct location to make a connection, has the contact points in the correct order/configuration(+ in the correct position and - in the correct position) and is rated with the same specs as the original battery, it might work.
But, I think it is a shot in the dark, I doubt you'll find a battery that will actually fit and connect at the right points. If you are considering trying to use wire to connect the battery to the contact points in the phone, I'll go ahead and tell you that is a bad idea.
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Why
Why?

affg said:
Why?
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Adding the wire between the battery and the contact pins changes the amount of resistance between the battery and the contact pins, this difference will probably, at some point, lead to some kind of hardware damage/failure.
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