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Data Connection is still used when connected to WiFi!

I've just been charged £400 by Orange for exceeding my Data limit of 1GB , watching You tube video's but whilst connected to WiFi.
I did a few tests using www.showip.net and found that when you connect to WiFi your connection is still rooted through your data connection, so your download limit is being sucked away when you are thinking your safe as your connected to your WiFi connection.
You actually have to manually disconnect your data connection, then connect to WiFi, your data connection doesn't automatically disable itself when you connect to WiFi.
This seems like a major bug to me and I can't see this documented by HTC or Windows Mobile
Is this a know "issue" and is there a fix?
Regards

You do not need to pay them anything,just go to your local citizens advise bureau or trading standards..
In order to prevent using 'data' connection you have to disable it with a third party app ,such as data disconnect,even then you have to manually disable it in the connections centre,if you disable it in the connections centre and do not use an app such as 'data disconnect' it will still connect..
Therefore it is a fault with the device..

Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just discovered this issue. Which app will automatically disable 3G when I'm connected to WiFi? I always thought if you were connected to wifi your data would not get used? Guess I was wrong :S

PhnXFire said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just discovered this issue. Which app will automatically disable 3G when I'm connected to WiFi? I always thought if you were connected to wifi your data would not get used? Guess I was wrong :S
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Install Android Data n wifi works like a charm...
In windows, i've seen Wifi-on-demand once installed,starts the data automatically when wifi is lost,but data stays on even when wifi is reconnected.I guess there is no solution for this yet....

PhnXFire said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just discovered this issue. Which app will automatically disable 3G when I'm connected to WiFi? I always thought if you were connected to wifi your data would not get used? Guess I was wrong :S
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CHTS switches Gprs off, if Wifi is connected. Also you can disable gprs Data totally.
At best you make a home profile, which disable gprs totally and only if you really want to use gprs, you switch to another profile, which allows it.

[Q] sharing mobile modem internet help

i connected my blackberry bold 9780 to my laptop and i use it as a modem. i then used virtual router to share the 3G connection to my motorola xoom wifi. i can go online using google chrome just fine but all the other other apps, whether default or downloaded, refuse to connect online. im wondering if it's an adapter setting that i need to adjust or something. p,lease help. i am very frustrated at not bein able to use internet depending apps. it breaks my heart.

dirtysexyrodney said:
i connected my blackberry bold 9780 to my laptop and i use it as a modem. i then used virtual router to share the 3G connection to my motorola xoom wifi. i can go online using google chrome just fine but all the other other apps, whether default or downloaded, refuse to connect online. im wondering if it's an adapter setting that i need to adjust or something. p,lease help. i am very frustrated at not bein able to use internet depending apps. it breaks my heart.
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I don't understand...you are basically using your Blackberry/laptop configuration to make a mobile hotspot, right? If the Xoom can access the wifi signal for one app it should be able to for any app. Maybe I'm missing something. Can you give more explanation?

okantomi said:
I don't understand...you are basically using your Blackberry/laptop configuration to make a mobile hotspot, right? If the Xoom can access the wifi signal for one app it should be able to for any app. Maybe I'm missing something. Can you give more explanation?
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I connected my blackberry bold which has 3g to my laptop which broadcasts the connection via wifi. The chrome browser and android market and other goodies apps connect but installed apps don't connect. Plus I recently bought a huawei e5 mobile 3g wireless router. I got my xoom connected to the network but right now only the browser goes online,. The other apps just do not. I don't know what other piece of detail I can give other than the fact that my Xoom wifi is not connecting to 3g networks broadcast via wifi. Any ideas?

This is really very strange... I switched my 3G-Xoom into flight mode and then activated WiFi (so it basically behaves like a WiFi-only Version) and connected it to my mobile (Samsung Galaxy S) and all apps are able to access the internet. Connecting ist to a UMTS-Router (Option GlobeSurf) also worked like a charm...
Did you try to connect your Xoom to a WiFi-Router at home (= Internet access via cable not UMTS)? Does this work or do you encounter the same probs?

WIFI and mobile internet at the same time

This seems to be an easy one first, I just did not manage this working.
When I am connected to device via WiFi (which is not connected to the internet) I cannot connect to mobile data. The device somehow keeps trying to use WiFi only for internet connection. Obviously switching is NOT OK, as I want to be connected to the device. Imagine it is a drone remote controller or a dashcam or a wifi cam.
I tried Wifi+ but that is only changing to another wifi with internet on or switches to mobile net. I also tried mobile net always on, but does not help either.
Any idea? I do not even think this is Honor related - this should be easily working on any Android device.

moolash said:
This seems to be an easy one first, I just did not manage this working.
When I am connected to device via WiFi (which is not connected to the internet) I cannot connect to mobile data. The device somehow keeps trying to use WiFi only for internet connection. Obviously switching is NOT OK, as I want to be connected to the device. Imagine it is a drone remote controller or a dashcam or a wifi cam.
I tried Wifi+ but that is only changing to another wifi with internet on or switches to mobile net. I also tried mobile net always on, but does not help either.
Any idea? I do not even think this is Honor related - this should be easily working on any Android device.
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Contact customer service

moolash said:
This seems to be an easy one first, I just did not manage this working.
When I am connected to device via WiFi (which is not connected to the internet) I cannot connect to mobile data. The device somehow keeps trying to use WiFi only for internet connection. Obviously switching is NOT OK, as I want to be connected to the device. Imagine it is a drone remote controller or a dashcam or a wifi cam.
I tried Wifi+ but that is only changing to another wifi with internet on or switches to mobile net. I also tried mobile net always on, but does not help either.
Any idea? I do not even think this is Honor related - this should be easily working on any Android device.
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You want to be connected to a WiFi network but use mobile data for Internet?

goldfinv said:
You want to be connected to a WiFi network but use mobile data for Internet?
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sounds like the same to me , but i think, its impossible , you can connect both at a time.. but phone always tries to get internet from wifi..

Yes. It's quite impossible to do that. Wi-Fi and Mobile Data at the same time. Speedify on the play store let's you use both for downloads and Internet. Doubt it'd solve your problem tho

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Thanks, but this is not phone (brand) related.

goldfinv said:
Yes. It's quite impossible to do that. Wi-Fi and Mobile Data at the same time. Speedify on the play store let's you use both for downloads and Internet. Doubt it'd solve your problem tho
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I understand now it might not be possible. It is by default like this in Android. It is kinda stupid, though.

Whats the value of Wifi on a Gear S3 if you have your phone with you?

I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?

scoob101 said:
I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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The two devices will talk to each other whether wifi is turned on or off. Wifi comes in handy for apps like Spotify so you don't have to use up your data and apps like Kodi gear where you can control multimedia through your watch .
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scoob101 said:
I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
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You mean while out of bluetooth range? If so yes, that is one of the usages of wifi.
scoob101 said:
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
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No as @MobileUnlockBase pointed out already.
scoob101 said:
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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In Wifi mode you will keep receiving all kind of notifications including text, missing calls etc., but you can't make/receive phone call over wifi. Currently phone call over wifi is not available on this watch.

If you always have your phone with you (by definition this means within BT range) there is no reason to use WiFi. There is nothing that can be done via WiFi that can't be done via BT. But the reverse is not true.

So basically if you have your phone with you at all times, its a complete waste of battery. Turned off. Cheers.

10urshin said:
You mean while out of bluetooth range? If so yes, that is one of the usages of wifi.
No as @MobileUnlockBase pointed out already.
In Wifi mode you will keep receiving all kind of notifications including text, missing calls etc., but you can't make/receive phone call over wifi. Currently phone call over wifi is not available on this watch.
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I'm totally unclear on the purpose of Wifi on this watch! I turned off Bluetooth to use Wifi and it can't connect because the of "sign-in procedure not supported"! Does that mean it can only connect to an open network??? Those really don't exist these days.

Why is there such a big discussion about wifi on this watch? The watch has wifi because Samsung wanted to put it in there and most of us are grateful. Do you want a smart watch without wifi? Again, there are apps like Spotify that it is better to be on wifi instead of GSM, depending on what network you use.
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RaymondPJR said:
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I'm totally unclear on the purpose of Wifi on this watch! I turned off Bluetooth to use Wifi and it can't connect because the of "sign-in procedure not supported"! Does that mean it can only connect to an open network??? Those really don't exist these days.
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No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.

10urshin said:
No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.
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Lol, if i turn off password protection on my home network, then my neighbors will start using my Wifi! I can't believe Samsung overlooked this!! I'll just wait for a possible update???

I can confirm that it should connect to a wifi protected network. I use WPA2-PSK and it connects fine to my router.

MobileUnlockBase said:
Why is there such a big discussion about wifi on this watch? The watch has wifi because Samsung wanted to put it in there and most of us are grateful. Do you want a smart watch without wifi? Again, there are apps like Spotify that it is better to be on wifi instead of GSM, depending on what network you use.
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The discussion is because people want to understand the uses of their watch. Having it is nice, but there aren't too many use case scenarios for it. Most of the time where WiFi is available, the phone will be close at hand and connected via BT. Streaming music (over WiFi or otherwise) is a very limited application because of the battery drain. If/when moreb Tizen apps are developed for the watch, using WiFi may become practical.

At home i do leave my phone in 1 place, keep my S3 on yes moving around its always BT, but moving further around the house when BT drops the WIFI takes over.
Also once i forgot my phone at home, but when i reached the gym (was registered for their WIFI) i still got my notifications etc.
But all in all no much use, but i left it on as could not discern much battery loss with it being on.

you have to sync the wifi from your phone to the watch then it will just connect.. look on the gear app settings> gear connection > Sync wi-fi profiles..

It's not about giving a use for WiFi all the time. Most of the time WiFi should be off to conserve battery. It is more about the one off scenarios like you forgot your phone at home, but you can connect to WiFi at work and tell your wife you are alive through a text... or for the tizen app developer, to test apps on your watch you need to connect to the watch via wifi... or for spotify.. there are several reasons to have it, but still it should be off Moore often than not

jestexman said:
you have to sync the wifi from your phone to the watch then it will just connect.. look on the gear app settings> gear connection > Sync wi-fi profiles..
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10urshin said:
No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.
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Odd, now it's connecting without doing either of your suggestions!!? Confusing!
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Well GWD needs the watch and PC connected to the same network (wifi) to get the faces from one place to another. Unless you get it into a store maybe, but having it on wifi is handy to test things out as you add them and modify themes.

Just to share my opinion. In my work I’m not allowed to have the phone with me. So the solution to continue receiving my notifications are through WiFi, and it works perfectly.

Streaming music from Spotify on my watch over Wifi.

scoob101 said:
I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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WiFi (WiFi Direct) is also used for syncing Images, songs and large apps over to your watch; these would otherwise take lots of time over Bluetooth.

After last update there is no connection via wifi with my phone.. Does someone experienced the same issue?

wifi

what is wifi for on frontier s3....or what does it do......or what do we need it for??
i turned it off and noticed no difference to my useage since everthing is done tru phone ;;;
what did samsung put wifi in for???

edwardob said:
what is wifi for on frontier s3....or what does it do......or what do we need it for??
i turned it off and noticed no difference to my useage since everthing is done tru phone ;;;
what did samsung put wifi in for???
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It allows you to keep your watch connected to your phone when out of BT range but under the same wifi network.

Stormglider said:
It allows you to keep your watch connected to your phone when out of BT range but under the same wifi network.
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thanks...
very limited....

... and you can install created watchfaces and transfer music from your PC/Mac to your watch (also with iPhone).

Also for apps like Spotify or should cloud pro or the YouTube app forgot the name, you can use it without using your phone to transfer data and just use WiFi. There are many uses for the WiFi its nice to have the option instead of not having it at all

edwardob said:
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very limited....
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I haven't investigated but I think the watch will not independently connect to any WiFi network that you phone has not first connected to. From what I understand, it can remember WiFi networks that it had connected to through your phone, but has no protocol to connect independently without the help of your phone! That's crazy!
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