Data Connection is still used when connected to WiFi! - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps

I've just been charged £400 by Orange for exceeding my Data limit of 1GB , watching You tube video's but whilst connected to WiFi.
I did a few tests using www.showip.net and found that when you connect to WiFi your connection is still rooted through your data connection, so your download limit is being sucked away when you are thinking your safe as your connected to your WiFi connection.
You actually have to manually disconnect your data connection, then connect to WiFi, your data connection doesn't automatically disable itself when you connect to WiFi.
This seems like a major bug to me and I can't see this documented by HTC or Windows Mobile
Is this a know "issue" and is there a fix?
Regards

You do not need to pay them anything,just go to your local citizens advise bureau or trading standards..
In order to prevent using 'data' connection you have to disable it with a third party app ,such as data disconnect,even then you have to manually disable it in the connections centre,if you disable it in the connections centre and do not use an app such as 'data disconnect' it will still connect..
Therefore it is a fault with the device..

Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just discovered this issue. Which app will automatically disable 3G when I'm connected to WiFi? I always thought if you were connected to wifi your data would not get used? Guess I was wrong :S

PhnXFire said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just discovered this issue. Which app will automatically disable 3G when I'm connected to WiFi? I always thought if you were connected to wifi your data would not get used? Guess I was wrong :S
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Install Android Data n wifi works like a charm...
In windows, i've seen Wifi-on-demand once installed,starts the data automatically when wifi is lost,but data stays on even when wifi is reconnected.I guess there is no solution for this yet....

PhnXFire said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just discovered this issue. Which app will automatically disable 3G when I'm connected to WiFi? I always thought if you were connected to wifi your data would not get used? Guess I was wrong :S
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CHTS switches Gprs off, if Wifi is connected. Also you can disable gprs Data totally.
At best you make a home profile, which disable gprs totally and only if you really want to use gprs, you switch to another profile, which allows it.

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priotize w-lan for internet connetions

-Does anyone know how to priotize w-lan for internet connections?
It seem that my phone always uses the mobile connections (GSM, 3G etc).
In menu for connections where internet connections can be created, I can't find anyting about w-lan.
This is something I've been meaning to ask about while I wait for the Fuze. By way of background, I have a Cingular 8525 with the original (WM5) ROM, and it drives me nuts using it at home. I only get EDGE inside my house, but the stupid phone persists in making an EDGE data connection instead of using the nice, fast Wifi connection that I just enabled. I use NoData to make sure it doesn't connect via EDGE or 3G, and then half the time it says it says that it can't connect -- even though the icon says that it is connected!! The only way I can reliably connect via Wifi is to go briefly into and out of flight mode, then turn on Wifi before connecting.
I'm really, really hoping that the situation is better with the Touch Pro/Fuze. Can anyone reassure me on that?
it should be accessing wifi first by default i believe...unless other connection is already connected
Hello!
Start first the WiFi Connection and then the Internet Explorer or Opera.
pjo12345
There's this stupid thing with wlan connections in WM - if connection type is set to 'Work', you can browse through files on other computers in (W)LAN at home, but any Internet connection wll be realised through GRPS/3G. To make it connect to the Internet using WiFi, you need to switch wifi type back to 'Internet'.
Maybe that's the thing?
Is there a way how to setup that the WiFi is connected to both (work AND internet)? I never saw WiFi connected only to work network... I assume there is no way but why not to ask ;-)
I know that many others have problem with that, but I didn't find any solution yet...
Because when I set it as work, my Exchange sync is working but no Internet, and when I switch to Internet, opera and QuickpGPS is working, but no Exchange sync (it is trying to open VPN connection because I need to go though inside address to the server because certificates and of course it cannot get it). Or I need somehow set that no VPN will be dealed on this WiFi network...
I need something like BOTH or Auto option.
It seems to be switching from Wlan to G / 3G / H when the signal is not that great. Mostly with the weather tab and Opera. Quick GPS works fine. The way I make sure it is on the internet through wlan is to shutdown the telephone and keep the wlan on with comm manager. The disadvantage is that anyone calling will be heading to your voicemail. Another option is to use the "Nodata" program, en disable to internet connections.
On Touch Pro, I usually just go to COMM MANAGER and switch on wifi and switch off data connection. It is only a couple of quick steps and saves battery, since you don't need both on, if you only want to use wifi.
I am sure there must be a more seamless solution, but I like easy fixes.
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I'm really, really hoping that the situation is better with the Touch Pro/Fuze. Can anyone reassure me on that?
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No it is not better. Turning on WiFi is not enough. It will continue to use the cellular data connection until you manually turn it off. This wouldn't be so bad, but in my experience I've had to push the button to turn off the cellular connection multiple times before it would actually do so. What would be really nice is if WM could seamlessly switch from the cellular network to WiFi, with zero user interaction, just like the iPhone does.
I got an other problem with wifi. When I establish a wifi-connection and pull my mail the ppc still connect with a data-canection and didn't use the wifi. My kaiser used the wifi-connection for that.
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No it is not better. Turning on WiFi is not enough. It will continue to use the cellular data connection until you manually turn it off. This wouldn't be so bad, but in my experience I've had to push the button to turn off the cellular connection multiple times before it would actually do so. What would be really nice is if WM could seamlessly switch from the cellular network to WiFi, with zero user interaction, just like the iPhone does.
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I wrote the original post before I had a chance to try it for myself. I've had a Fuze for three weeks now, and it works fine for me. I turn on wifi and the Fuze uses wifi. I turn it off and it goes back to normal wireless. (I did do the registry edits to turn on the HSDPA stuff in the connections tab and enabled the modified connection icons in the menu bar. I don't know if that had any effect on this issue or not, but it does what I would expect now.)

Wireless advice

Hello all,
I have just got a Sony X1. It connects to my home wireless fine. My question is once its connected will it automatically do all browsing/downloading/email through the wireless or do I have to tell it?
Im just worried because my daily 3G usage is very high (nearly 10mb yesterday) even though I try and only download large files when connected to my wireless. I want to make sure its not downloading through 3G when the wireless is switched on..
Thanks!
default is using the most accessible connection...
if wifi is connected it won't try to access the internet thru 3G..
you're safe as long as you make sure your wifi is connected and you have an active internet connection
In my case I've seen many times that the phone still uses the 3G connection even if WiFi is available and connected (maybe for power saving reasons?). So I always disconnect the 3G connection when WiFi is active. Currently I use Mortscript to do this for automatically.
If this problem occurs, you can also use a small useful app called NoData
(can be found in the forum)

Connect ONLY to wifi when one is available app

Is there such app?
or perhaps something that prevents the phone from disconecting from a wifi conection when it goes to sleep?/
or one that prevents the phone to go sleep while conected to a wifi?
The thing is, my plan is not unlimited and i dont want to use 3G if a wifi connection is available and connecting each time is a pain.
At some point Froyo was doing this (conecting automatically, almost instantl to my home wifi when i opened browser for instance) but not anymore.
cheers

[Q] Sharing my wifi connection with my phone

Ok, I've been looking around for a couple hours now but people aren't understanding my question/dilemma
I am currently using a goWIFI connection on my tablet, I'm only allowed to login with one device at a time. So I am trying to share my xoom's wifi, not data connection with my phone so they can both be using the same wifi connection
I do not want to share a data connection with my phone, I want to share the wifi connection with my phone. How can I do this? FoxFI only seems to share data connections.
Delgoth said:
Ok, I've been looking around for a couple hours now but people aren't understanding my question/dilemma
I am currently using a goWIFI connection on my tablet, I'm only allowed to login with one device at a time. So I am trying to share my xoom's wifi, not data connection with my phone so they can both be using the same wifi connection
I do not want to share a data connection with my phone, I want to share the wifi connection with my phone. How can I do this? FoxFI only seems to share data connections.
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And you have tried putting your tablet in airplane mode to shutoff you mobile data connection?
Are ypu on a custom ROM? I have never tried it but some seem to offer turning your tablet into a portable wifi connection, might be the backdoor to tether your phone that you need
I dont have a data plan right nnonow for my tablet, its only running on wifi as it is. I have already disabled mobile data in settings. I am running EOS 3 build 134.
I am just looking to share the current wifi connection instead of a data connection.

[Q] Wifi and Mobile data

I have Nexus 5 for over a week and waiting for case and screen protector. I left the plastic piece stay on the phone until the day before yesterday. I love the feeling of touch screen without any film or protector on it. I am learning this device.
I have router in my office powered but not working anymore, therefore there is wifi always on but not working anymore. Everyday in the morning, when I am in my office, the phone will detect that wifi auto, of course there is no signal. My mobile data is on all hte time. I have to turnoff wifi from the phone, otherwise I can not, for example, surf internet and check email. In the other words, no internet connection even mobile data is on.
So my question is: why the phone can not pick up mobile data automatically even there is a wifi? I was scared when i first had this problem because I thought my phone is not working. Is there any setting I can try to let the phone pickup signal from either wifi or mobile data automatically?
I'm interested also. Nexus 5 has a difficult time negotiating a signal when the signal is weak. At home, I get a higher powered signal on 2G so I keep it there. Today I noticed "no signal" and emergency calls message most of the day. (hubby's iPhone 4s is on the same service and he's getting the signal). I turned off Wi-Fi (which works perfectly, btw ) and phone signal connected. Treated it several times. Sounds like a hardware defect.
wolfca said:
I have router in my office powered but not working anymore, therefore there is wifi always on but not working anymore. Everyday in the morning, when I am in my office, the phone will detect that wifi auto, of course there is no signal. My mobile data is on all hte time. I have to turnoff wifi from the phone, otherwise I can not, for example, surf internet and check email. In the other words, no internet connection even mobile data is on.
So my question is: why the phone can not pick up mobile data automatically even there is a wifi? I was scared when i first had this problem because I thought my phone is not working. Is there any setting I can try to let the phone pickup signal from either wifi or mobile data automatically?
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Your wording makes the question a little confusing, but I think you are saying your office router is turned on and available for WiFi connections, but has no internet connection itself to pass through to your phone.
Your phone connects to that WiFi for data, but can't reach the Net through the router. Meanwhile, you could get data through the phone data plan, but that does not work unless you turn off WiFi.
This normal. The phone is designed to use WiFi for data if a connection is available that you have authorized the phone to make. It won't use the phone data plan if connected to the WiFi, as you see. It cannot tell that the WiFi router is not connected to the Net.
I suggest you go into WiFi settings, click on the "ghostly" WiFi entry and tell the phone to forget that connection. From then on, the phone won't connect to that router and will use phone data plan.
What you would prefer would be for the phone to use its data plan as a fallback option, in case it gets hooked up to a WiFi network with no internet access, like at your work. Would be nice as an option, but not the way things work currently.
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wolfca said:
So my question is: why the phone can not pick up mobile data automatically even there is a wifi?
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To prevent overage for users that may have limited data plan, the device will always try to use WiFi when enabled. If it can't connect to a WiFi network, it will look for the mobile data if enabled.
wolfca said:
Is there any setting I can try to let the phone pickup signal from either wifi or mobile data automatically?
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In your case, since WiFi is "available", there is no setting on the stock ROM that will tell the device to connect to mobile data instead. Think about it this way - your phone is connected to the LAN using the WiFi network. It can reach the gateway, and has a valid IP. It doesn't care about whether it has WAN connectivity or not. So, it assumes that you are connected, and have connectivity.
You could look for apps on the play store that will actually check for WAN connectivity and if not available, disable WiFi (so that mobile data is used instead)
But, the part that I don't understand is this: If you don't have WiFi available, why do you even enable it? Turn WiFi off (disable wifi scanning in advanced settings of WiFi as well), and let mobile data take over instead. Or do you need WiFi elsewhere (say, at home)? If so, there are apps like Tasker that will let you set up profiles to enable WiFi when you are at home, and disable it when you are at office or other locations.
Thanks all for your very helpful reply. Sorry for my poor written English.
My office router does not function properly and I am to lazy to power it off, so my phone still can detect it but of course there no internet access from the router.
I now know I just need turn off wifi from phone and the phone will pickup mobile data auto.

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